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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:21pm On Oct 09, 2020

jln115:
Utter garbage!! But its ok SA doesn't really need Nigeria since it has much bigger clients like Saudi Arabia,UAE, USA, ect ect ect

I apologise for my earlier comments, I was merely joking.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:46pm On Oct 09, 2020

iblawi:
I hope he will understand being a old member.

Why would anyone take internet comments seriously?

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:30pm On Oct 09, 2020

iblawi:
Why are you guys trying to frustrate this guy?

Abeg make una calm down for the guy.

It's all fun bro. No harm meant. grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:00pm On Oct 09, 2020

jln115:
Utter garbage!! But its ok SA doesn't really need Nigeria since it has much bigger clients like Saudi Arabia,UAE, USA, ect ect ect

E pain am!!

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:00pm On Oct 09, 2020

jln115:
- They did not fail to deliver on an order already place..........Read my post again they lost that deal because they couldn't provide guarantees for the Technologies, Twiga Services and Logistics, Floida Engineering Services, Zero industries ect ect ect

You're nothing but a noisy MRAP maker. grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:42pm On Oct 09, 2020

New advanced maritime surveillance plane for the Nigerian Air Force (NIMASA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSDGHULaM1I

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 5:44pm On Oct 09, 2020*

Building West-Africa's biggest locally made warship.

Seaward Defence Boat 3

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 4:05pm On Oct 09, 2020

jln115:
Looks like you are struggling to comprehend what I'm saying..... I said Denel isn't the South African arms industry, we have dozens of private arms manufacturers that manufacture drones, airplanes, rifles, MRAPs, IFVs ect ect ect.

Denel hasn't been failing to deliver orders left right and centre as you claim, the only failed delivery was a lose making corrupt deal wrt the 40 Caspirs they would've delivered to Chad.

Also the none delivery of the T5 is not Denel but because of an agreement not being reached between Denel and the Sandf

Lastly source for the bolded please

The deal to supply Egypt with missiles went where?

Brazil left the A-darter programme.

Chad deal for MRAPs thrown out the window.

Denel is the largest and most important arms manufacturer in SA, the others don't really matter.

Paramount group just sells MRAPs.

The only other IFV available in RSA is made by paramount, they have not sold any.

Milkor only really sells hand held grenade launchers.

Truvelo sells snipers.

That's about the SA defence industry in a nutshell.

It doesn't provide any strategic importance to a country like Nigeria.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 12:43pm On Oct 09, 2020*

jln115:
As I said before, our arms industry isn't Denel alone. Weapon sales in 2019 was the highest its been since 2012, and Top 20 in the world.................hardly on life support now is it .

What SA exports that Nigeria doesn't make: Missiles, Armed Drones, Attack Helicopters, C4ISR Systems, Grenade Launchers, Howitzers, IFVs ect ect ect

According to Eeben Barlow the REVA mraps preform tremendously well, Its your Big foot mraps from China that didn't do so well

And almost all our latest exports are done with ToT.

The funny thing is the Bigfoot is still in service, while the Reva's are all kept in the bone yards.

Most of the items you listed above are manufactured by Denel. Denel cannot fulfill orders, and have been losing contracts left right and center. In fact the CEO recently resigned his position, just like the previous CEO.

"Denel could not deliver a paltry 6 units of T-5 artilleries to the SANDF, how would they now be able to deliver to Nigeria?".

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 12:40pm On Oct 09, 2020

jln115:
its 12 operational with 11 in service and 1 with Denels test and development centre .........Also no parts are imported they all are manufactured by Denel.

"Rooivalk Attack Helicopter (AH-2A) is a Denel product. Denel Aeronautics a subsidiary of the Denel is the Design Authority and Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) "

So you did lose a Rooivalk in accident?

Most of the helicopter parts are imported from Europe.

Yes Denel is the OEM of the Rooivalk, not the OEM of the parts and components used in manufacturing the Rooivalk.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:58am On Oct 09, 2020

DICON Nigeria marketing defence products to the ministry of interior.

We can see ballistic helmet, ballistic bulletproof vests, practice guns, smoke flares and boots, including armour plates.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:55am On Oct 09, 2020

Whyem15:
Transfer is of technology or we pass .
But honestly though the division between the top players in Africa isn't helping anyone.

They should transfer their artillery technology to Nigeria. cool

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:51am On Oct 09, 2020

kenpaul0:
A partnership with SA would do Nigeria (And Africa) a whole lot of good. If i was President i would pursue for this....Even their attack chopper i would offer partnership with them

They only have 9 attack choppers in active service. Even with those Choppers you still are stuck with the Turkish problem. Parts are almost all imported from Europe.

It's just best you buy directly from Europe.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:48am On Oct 09, 2020

jln115:
never deliver?? Out defence industry isn't Denel alone bru we ain't in the top 20 arms exporters because of Denel alone....

I mean we never deliver but your soldiers are driving around in Reva MRAPs and near brand new Maruaders?

Your defence industry is currently on life support, and you know this. grin

Most of what is produced by other manufacturers in RSA are mostly MRAPs, there are already 5 different types of MRAPs produced in Nigeria and 3 types are in service.

It's hard to say what strategic gain Nigeria would get from importing South-African arms.

The Reva MRAPs bought in 2015 are all sitting in a bone yard.

With South-African arms,

No Transfer of Technology, No Bueno!!

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:55am On Oct 09, 2020

jln115:
Nigeria can always come south Drones, Gunships, MRAPS............we almost have it all

And you never deliver. grin

I think we would pass.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:13am On Oct 09, 2020

Fynline:
Hope your source is not SSBN sha

His source was accurate on the drones.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:12am On Oct 09, 2020

Daverytimes:
Am glad we are finally purchasing in quantity military gear, however, there does seem to be a creeping dependence on Chinese weaponry that i am not comfortable with. Before it becomes too late we need to diversify, get from the Russians, and the Turks. Standardization is a good thing when you produce your own weapons, it is a hindrance when all your gear is produced by another nation.

The problem of purchasing Russian weaponry in this trump administration is that Nigeria might fall victim to CAATSA sanctions. This is the reason we have not received our 7 remaining MI-35M helicopters.

We can only realistically purchase top of the line Russian weaponry if we get guarantees from the US that we would not be sanctioned.

Turkish weapons, Turkish drones are filled with imported Western components. Intact Canada has stopped exporting parts for Turkish drones, Turkey cannot deliver T-129 helicopters to Pakistan because of sanctions, it remains to be seen if Turkey can deliver Milgem Corvettes to Pakistan.

This leaves us with just a few options to buy from, China remains are best source for high quality weapons.

That's the reason why it's a good thing that Nigeria is investing in local production of weapons.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:26pm On Oct 08, 2020

Toju200:
the SDB 3 was in last year budget.
Also The ARA or Ezugwu MRAP might be listed as the "A" or "B" vehicles

I did not see SDB 3 in 2020 budget though.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:26pm On Oct 08, 2020

Jimi24:
The capital items in the 2021 budget are separate from them and will come differently.

I don't understand this part correctly. Are you saying the capital items are not listed in this 2021 budget and are in a separate 2021 budget?

The items I listed above were not mentioned in the 2020 budget, nor in the 2019 budget.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:11pm On Oct 08, 2020

Looking at the defence budget, you'll be confused, but it seems procurement listed on Nigeria's defence budget is usually different from actual procurement.

For example the VT-4 Tank, SH-5 artillery, ST-1, CH-4 UCAVs, ARA MRAP, Ezugwu MRAP, K-152 and MI-17s are not listed in the Defence budget. SDB3 is also not listed in the Defence budget, but Nigeria is getting them.

The budget, especially on the project side might seem empty, but it more like a mirage than anything else.

"The devil is actually not in the detail, but what is delivered".

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:02pm On Oct 08, 2020

We having been paying for 3 x JF-17s for a long time now.

3 x JF-17 also budgeted for in the 2021 budget, yet all 3 JF-17s should be delivered to Nigeria this November.

I think this means that Nigeria is getting more than 3 units of JF-17 from Pakistan.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:59pm On Oct 08, 2020

Odunayaw:
Aselpod! Yesss! Good capability right there

The document doesn't actually say aselpod, but since we know the aselpod has been integrated on the JF-17, then it might as well be.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:57pm On Oct 08, 2020

Xbee007:
Please, link to that document.

https://budgetoffice.gov.ng/

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:56pm On Oct 08, 2020

slimthugchimee2:
A link to the military budget please

https://budgetoffice.gov.ng/

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:54pm On Oct 08, 2020

Toju200:
The PD-1 UAS NAF is Acquiring also will be for what? To train drone pilot if yes ok..
But tsaigumi UAV will be the best option if they are going to use it strictly for ISR.
Also NN to receive 3 AW109 is this aside the one for deep blue or..?

The 3 additional helicopters would be different from the 3 the Navy is getting from Nimasa.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:52pm On Oct 08, 2020

Procurement for the Nigerian navy.

We are getting another Hydrographic vessel, a smaller 32 meters vessel.

We would also get 3 additional A-109 helicopters for the navy.

Also some Aresa boats.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:28pm On Oct 08, 2020

12 units Super Tucano
8 units CH-4 UCAV
3 units JF-17 with Aselpod
5 units MI-35M
4 units armed AW-109K
2 units locally armed BELL-412

Nigeria now has a very, credible attack fleet.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:24pm On Oct 08, 2020

Toju200:
E long o

Open it on your laptop and go to the military side, it's too long on the phone.

Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:21pm On Oct 08, 2020

Toju200:
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Great new about the pod
I knew of The AW139 NAF.
Also CAS said today 8 UCAV are due to arrive the country soon from china

That was since last year.

Great news on the 8 units of CH-4.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:20pm On Oct 08, 2020

GeneralFarouq:
Pls what about the NA nd NN budget...can u send pics.

I'm still looking through the budget.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:19pm On Oct 08, 2020

CAS UNDERTAKES OPERATIONAL VISIT TO KATSINA, ASSESSES PROGRESS OF ONGOING AIR OPERATIONS IN NORTH WEST ZONE

The Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, has expressed satisfaction with the progress of ongoing air operations in the North West Zone of the Country and pledged the commitment of the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) to sustain the intensity of operations in order to rid the Zone of armed bandits and other criminal elements. The CAS made this known today, 8 October 2020, while on an operational visit to the Headquarters of the Air Component of Operation HADARIN DAJI in Katsina to asses the progress of operations. The visit also afforded the CAS the opportunity to ascertain, first hand, the status of personnel, aircraft and logistics support facilities that had been deployed to ensure the effective conduct of operations. The CAS, who was accompanied on the visit by senior officers from Headquarters NAF, was received in Katsina by the Air Officer Commanding Special Operations Command (AOC SOC), Air Vice Marshal Charles Ohwo, and subsequently received a closed door briefing from the Air Component Commander, Wing Commander Ahmed Hamidu.

Speaking to the Press after the briefing, the CAS reiterated the NAF’s commitment to flush out armed bandits and other criminals from their forest hideouts in Katsina and Zamfara States as well as in Kaduna, Niger and Sokoto States. “I am very happy with what the Air Component has been doing, especially here in Katsina as well as in Zamfara State. We have made significant progress. We have also been able to substantially deal with the problem in Sokoto State”, he added. He stated that these efforts would be intensified as more attack helicopters and fighter jets would be deployed in order to bring to an end the menace of armed banditry in the affected areas. “I assure you that very soon most of these problems will be over”, he said.

[b]Speaking further, Air Marshal Abubakar expressed his appreciation to the Federal Government for its support towards the NAF’s fleet renewal efforts, which, he disclosed, included the acquisition of 8 Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicles (UCAVs) which would soon arrive the Country. He added that about 70 personnel, who are to operate and maintain the UCAVs, had already been nominated for training in China. He further disclosed that some of the UCAVs would be deployed in Katsina and Gusau, while others would be deployed to Gombe, at the newly established 203 Combat Reconnaissance Group (203 CRG) Gombe. He further stated that he would be in Gusau the following week to discuss with the Zamfara State Government on arrangements for the deployment of UCAVs to Gusau. “These UCAVs will bring substantial value to what we are doing. The whole idea is to send the right message to Nigerians that the Federal Government is doing everything humanly possible to ensure that our communities are safe”, the CAS added.[/b]

IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations & Information
Nigerian Air Force
8 October 2020

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Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:17pm On Oct 08, 2020

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