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Whyem15:
Also, they are a member NATO, wars that they know they can't fight or won't get the support of NATO, they beg to avoid such wars. They've been able to blackmail EU several times. They've made many enemies and lost many allies but they still get their way with most things. They had a confrontation with Greece recently, most NATO members supported Greece, Turkey decided to go for the diplomatic option. They know what they are doing.

Whyem15:
Also, they are a member NATO, wars that they know they can't fight or won't get the support of NATO, they beg to avoid such wars. They've been able to blackmail EU several times. They've made many enemies and lost many allies but they still get their way with most things. They had a confrontation with Greece recently, most NATO members supported Greece, Turkey decided to go for the diplomatic option. They know what they are doing.

Whyem15:
Also, they are a member NATO, wars that they know they can't fight or won't get the support of NATO, they beg to avoid such wars. They've been able to blackmail EU several times. They've made many enemies and lost many allies but they still get their way with most things. They had a confrontation with Greece recently, most NATO members supported Greece, Turkey decided to go for the diplomatic option. They know what they are doing.

Whyem15:
Maybe we are underestimating the country.
They seem to have gotten away with everything they've done.
Even the Turkey producing the drones being used to destroy Armenian air defense systems recently purchased air defense systems from Russia.

Whyem15:
The munitions being used on the drone need a direct hit on tanks and artillery to get a kill though. Many of the strikes on tanks are just mobility kills.

shadowprimezero:
Oga! lets face it, the Armenians are outmatched. Don't take my word for it, the Azeris dont just put out statements like the Armenians, they release concrete video evidence. I've seen multiple tanks, MLRS, infantry trucks, tunnels, air defenses get taken out. Its no different from Syria or Libya, its a slaughter. Check out https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/

Omihanifa:
The two people shouting how many people voted in the last election are just been cynical

How do you expect people to go and queue up and vote when the winner is already predetermined, voters are not even sure of coming back alive due to violence

Whyem15:
There's is this very nasty footage of a drone attack on a truck with several Armenian soldiers around. The effect was terrible

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1311264899457261570?s=19[/quote]UCAVs should be a priority purchase for the Nigerian Air Force. They are devastating. Wow!!

shadowprimezero:
Very raw footage. This shows how much modern conventional warfare has changed with Azeri Bayraktar UCAV's and Heron loitering munitions that the Armenian seem to be able to do nothing about . Also, Azeri artillery seems accurate AF, probably using UAV's for sporting.

This shows how any modern conventional force is useless without good air defences and solid EW capabilities.

youghs:
Bro please do you know whether this ipv is armoured or not.

shadowprimezero:
Armenian soldier recording his own death. This is what NA units deal with routinely in the NE. Seriously war is hell and nothing like you see in the movies.

fabselad:
From what I got on Twitter. And also on: https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2020/09/the-fight-for-nagorno-karabakh.html
Azerbaijan lost 7 tanks, 7 bmps and 1 mi 8 helicopter

FieldMarshall06:
You are very correct, but Nigerian Navy does not use missile boat as a classification. We use Fast Attack Craft (FAC). So, that Algerian vessel in NN would be a FAC like NNS Siri Combattante class.

However, the FAC in NN doctrine is more powerful than that ship, in terms of weapons.

dragon2:
Today's modern armoured units cannot and should not go about without mid-range mobile anti-aircraft missile defence, and signal jamming units,it's just suicide.

chkil1:
each country have its own classification , some will classified it as missile boats , or patroller , algerian follow russian classifications , for exemple there is a lot of small russian ships (less than 800t) classified as corvettes (ex: Nanuchka-class corvettes 569 t) ) . but yes for me to it shouldn't be classified as corvette

the weapons and equipments are also very important , some of nigerian OPV if they had heavier weapons suit (missiles ect) they will be classified as corvettes .

chkil1:
locally designed and built corvette [ djebel chenoua Class ] , 58,40 meter long , 550 tons , 52 crew , 31 knots. 03 corvettes produced in late 80's , 90's

- equipped with : 4 x C-802 missiles , 1 AK-176 (76mm) and 1 AK-630 (6 x 30 mm)
- Type 363A/S Attack radar , Type 374 Acquisition radar , Type 88C Optronic director
- 3 × MTU 20V-538-TB92 diesels engine with 3 × shafts


Algerian navy

shadowprimezero:
The war just started bros. Don't fall for obvious propaganda coming from both sides. This is a more balanced report of what's going on.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2020/09/the-fight-for-nagorno-karabakh.html?m=1

UltimateDreamer:
mehn, this one go rugged oh, reading that Armenia is accusing Turkey of transporting fighters from Syria into the zone, ready to battle Azerbaijan.
Azerbaijan on the other hand also accused of having recruited mercenaries and terrorists from the Middle East.
Looks like this is one twisted plot with very many actors, all capable of causing serious damage.
Iran is calling for restraint on both sides, the fact that here are no diplomatic relations between Armenia and Azerbaijan makes this situation even more precarious.
Azerbaijan is 97 percent Muslim while Armenia is 97 percent Christian
Will this be another proxy war between Erdogan's Turkey and Putin's Russia, both men have been flexing muscle since Syria, Libya, both always supporting opposing sides... now this. This seems too close to home for Russia though, don't know if Putin will be able to contain this without it spilling over. Even though Armenia is 1/3 the Azerbaijan economy and population, Armenia always manages to bloody up Azerbaijan, due to Russia's backing. But this time Turkey's a bit stronger now since ottoman times, so we don't know if Erdogan will want to prove a point. But from the opening salvo, Armenia and Russia kicking ass right now abi?
and apparently they still hold on to the disputed territory called Nagorno-Karabakh now called the Republic of Artsakh albeit indirectly

seankafor:
what's EU stand on this

UltimateDreamer:
Abi oh, we can vividly remember those years, begging FG to buy hand me down MRAPS from America, second hand from eastern Europe, anything from anywhere to save personnel from soft-skinned death traps . It took the believe of a few Nigerians to point the way, showing what was possible, we all remember igirigi... we've come a long way abeg... Now, are we where we need to be, NO, as long as we still see personnel in active engagement riding soft-skinnies, we have a lot of work to do, but at least the work is now somewhere in a factory in kaduna not over the bloody seas. We might still have to import steel and aluminum but that too will come to an end very soon with the reactivation of ajaokuta and alcon.
so yes locally built fighter jet, for sure yes. Especially with the jf17 coming in, the Pakistanis show us the way.

UltimateDreamer:
Can start with reverse engineering turbo-props too if that's easier to fathom.

Note the NAFSA Eagle, a turbo-prop light utility aircraft is been developed by the Air force, we saw the fuselage in 2018, that project's still ongoing
Chief of air staff Sadiq Abubakar did state that "The push for improved domestic capabilities follows Nigeria's success in refurbishing and re-commissioning several helicopters, fixed-wing turbo-prop aircraft, fighter and trainer jets, and aerial defense systems."