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jln115:
Since we are on this topic:

SA Army bosvark

SuperSixSeven:
Actually this is an air defence setup - a proper direct fire support would ideally have the gunner protected.

jln115:
partnerships like this will put Proforce on the map internationally...... However its paramount(pun not intended) that Proforce get support locally...... If the Nigerian army can field a sufficient number of Proforce products, which then will prove their combat readiness, could result in export customers

shadowprimezero:
Breaking; Ukraine Auto Kraz military vehicle manufacturer announces a strategic partnership with Proforce to locally produce Nigeria's order of 1000 Kraz trucks. This is what DICON should be doing, leverage on preexisting defence companies to jointly produce vehicles with full tech transfer.

http://www.autokraz.com.ua/index.php/en/novosti-i-media/news/item/4224-prat-avtokraz-oholoshuie-pro-pochatok-stratehichnoho-partnerstva-z-niheriiskoiu-kompaniieiu-proforce-limited

Odunayaw:
Herein is what I've been saying @ Kabe1

Jimi24:
This is a stretch.
Pls be realistic.
France will send planes from Paris, refuel twice to destroy air bases at Kainji and Makurdi.

The mission reliability of this is probably 15%. So they probably do this successfully once in six missions. They better be carrying more than 20 tons of bombs/missiles.....LOL.

They get only one chance but Nigeria has options.

The most childish thing is assessing military power and strength (even these two dont mean the same thing) by comparing numbers and types of aircraft and tanks. It is amateur stuff.
There are many."elements of national power ".

jpphilips:
Are you saying what you know or what you think? A military enthusiast like you was not aware Nigeria got CH-3 doesn't mean those Nigerians with SIPRI, UNROCA & SALW access are not aware, which of those accesses do you have?
Nigeria has been a signatory to ATT since 2013 so every pin in our military inventory is reported under several ATT implementation frameworks like those I mentioned above.
It is silly to say the "whole world knew" just when the CH-3 crashed, that's an irresponsible statement, Nigeria reported that acquisition in 2013 to the best of my knowledge, sometime in 2014, when another batch arrived, it was again reported, it crashed sometime in January 2015, Nigeria again reported it.
Agreed, China the supplier wasn't ATT bound but Nigeria reported it as an international obligation, you dont have access doesnt mean its hidden.
You can't hide arms transfer anymore, that age has long gone, except of course you are waiting for the press.
Algeria & Egypt are not ATT compliant so I dont expect to see what they buy however, except they make that equipment locally, the transfer country is likely gonna report it, 5 out of 10 top arms manufacturers are ATT compliant, while 103 countries are already signatories, the chances of Algeria & Egypt hiding transfers is currently slim but not impossible.

jpphilips:
Are you saying what you know or what you think? A military enthusiast like you was not aware Nigeria got CH-3 doesn't mean those Nigerians with SIPRI, UNROCA & SALW access are not aware, which of those accesses do you have?
Nigeria has been a signatory to ATT since 2013 so every pin in our military inventory is reported under several ATT implementation frameworks like those I mentioned above.
It is silly to say the "whole world knew" just when the CH-3 crashed, that's an irresponsible statement, Nigeria reported that acquisition in 2013 to the best of my knowledge, sometime in 2014, when another batch arrived, it was again reported, it crashed sometime in January 2015, Nigeria again reported it.
Agreed, China the supplier wasn't ATT bound but Nigeria reported it as an international obligation, you dont have access doesnt mean its hidden.
You can't hide arms transfer anymore, that age has long gone, except of course you are waiting for the press.
Algeria & Egypt are not ATT compliant so I dont expect to see what they buy however, except they make that equipment locally, the transfer country is likely gonna report it, 5 out of 10 top arms manufacturers are ATT compliant, while 103 countries are already signatories, the chances of Algeria & Egypt hiding transfers is currently slim but not impossible.

Jimi24:
You would need a map of west africa, types and inventory of aircraft and aircraft nos, types and conbat range(s).
The nearest airfield is southern Niger Republic Diffa. The toughest they can field are 2 old MIG 29s.
Algeria is too far to come close.
Mali too far. Cameroon can field Alpha jets.
It is a ridiculously "quiet" neighborhood that Nigeria is in.
Even France would need to refuel their Mirage 2000s mid-air to reach Nigeria.
Good luck with that- our strike airfields are smack in the middle of the country.

I have been advocating for a large 4++ Gen combat aircraft as well but only for protection of the Gulf of Guinea off shore oil installations.

Nigerias power projection in W.Africa is seaward. We will close sea lanes, muscle into your ports and land troops. We are buying LSTs and coast hugging attack crafts.

Buying SUs and MIGs are such a waste, we should keep any of them acquired to just six aircraft.

Odunayaw:
So why the alarmist post that time? I am of the opinion that the JF-17 cannot solve all the possible air gap but its more than capable for the operational gaps we have.
Sukhois for who/what? In this impoverished neighborhood? What NAF should be getting with and after this JF-17 is quality EW systems. Our EW is currently poor

Odunayaw:
I still don't know the air arsenal they have/might have that needs "proper fighter jets" to match it

PrinxArthur1:
where did u get ur info from?

Jimi24:
They had a concept for Ezugwu. The concept dictated the type of driver side outside view screen. After that it is just to modify the vehicle external profile to fit the available screens on the global matkrt.
I think NAMVC dont make this driver side outside view screen

Odunayaw:
How does the GNA & LNA pull "proper fighter jets" into the picture?

Jimi24:
Stealth / low observability - not good. Lights up on IRST

Supercruise. - just fair

NetCentric warfare ability - very poor

EW suite - poor, maybe just better than J20

AESA radar - fair but reliability issues

IRST - fair

MAWS/other protective systems - poor

Russia is only scamming other countries with fake 5th Gen platforms.

Their real answer to the opposition is hypersonic strike aircraft. This is where they would be throwing their money because they are leading the tech although US railgun technology will destroy everyone of those aircraft when they are fielded.

Jimi24:
The design.of the vehicle constrains what drivers screen to buy.

This is most certainly off the shelf buy from China. No need to copy. The engine and chassis also chinese I imagine.

Jimi24:
So Algeria is buying an aircraft just going into service in Russia. Okay. That's not smart. Russia is going to be recouping their development costs really fast. Also to be honest, SU 57 5th gen capabilities are mostly non existent or modest at best