₦airaland Forum

Odunayaw:
Not disputing what you said. But the Bakassi conflict was an Infantryman's war. Hope you get my drift?

SuperSixSeven:
The ship flies the flag of the Marshal Islands and is commercially operated. Or do you the think the NN would register a vessel overseas?

Odunayaw:
2013 is 6years ago..

You're welcome to show me examples of "state of the Art frigates" that cost $450m please

Modified
I did small research about the Philippine Frigates. That weaponry and tonnage is basically Corvette standard hence it's price.
Except we want a frigate just for the "name" only

Odunayaw:
We've had this debate some 3yrs ago. Tracks have its advantages over Wheels and vice versa.

My point is, looking at our Security challenges (Present and Future), I don't see where Tracks come in first. Is it in the creeks & Jungles down South you'd drive your tracks?

Any issue we'd likely face in the South would be an Infantryman's problem I.e LICW

Odunayaw:
I think I agree too now. It shouldn't cost above $150m to bring that ship up to date and give it nearly 10yrs more

Odunayaw:
I'd rather it is on wheels. COIN warfare - Something I think Africa will face for the next decade, is very unforgiving for tracks

Odunayaw:
Why?

jln115:
It clearly states in numerous sources that the vessels are owned by a Private contractor yet you still believe those are Nigerian Navy vessels.

They are not even designated with NNS which should be the biggest sign that these are not Nigerian Navy ships

jln115:
They are Daff vessels that have been operated by the SA navy in the past..... Thus they are SAN Ships by your logic.

rka2:
Some more info on the deep blue project on the NN's website:

"Deep Blue Project. The Deep Blue Project (DBP) is a maritime security project conceived by the FMOT aimed at combating piracy and other criminalities in the nation’s maritime domain. The Project comprises procurement of equipment and systems, and training for their operation and maintenance. The NN has been collaborating with the FMOT through NIMASA with whom an existing MOU is currently running.]The main deliverables for the NN from the Project are 3x Leonardo Helicopter (LH109) Grand New, 2 x 55M Special Mission Vessels (SMVs) and 17 x 9.6m Rigid Hull Inflatable Boats (RHIBs) as interceptor boats. Others are UAVs, C4I Center and training facilitation for the intervention team. The NN however, counts on the Committee’s support for FMoT to make provision for the sustenance of this critical equipment, to avoid past mistakes."

jln115:
They are Daff vessels that have been operated by the SA navy in the past..... Thus they are SAN Ships by your logic.

jln115:
Thus by your logic these are also SA Navy Ships then:

jln115:
So you just proved my point that these are not Nigerian Navy Ships...... Thanks

jln115:
I looked at the wrong date fvcking shoot me mate!!!! Regardless of the date it still doesn't make any difference to the fact that does vessels are not Nigerian Navy vessels

rka2:
Some more info on the deep blue project on the NN's website:

"Deep Blue Project. The Deep Blue Project (DBP) is a maritime security project conceived by the FMOT aimed at combating piracy and other criminalities in the nation’s maritime domain. The Project comprises procurement of equipment and systems, and training for their operation and maintenance. The NN has been collaborating with the FMOT through NIMASA with whom an existing MOU is currently running.]The main deliverables for the NN from the Project are 3x Leonardo Helicopter (LH109) Grand New, 2 x 55M Special Mission Vessels (SMVs) and 17 x 9.6m Rigid Hull Inflatable Boats (RHIBs) as interceptor boats. Others are UAVs, C4I Center and training facilitation for the intervention team. The NN however, counts on the Committee’s support for FMoT to make provision for the sustenance of this critical equipment, to avoid past mistakes."

jln115:
I did read it..... Unfortunately it seem you haven't...... Literally everybody has told you this isn't a Nigerian Navy vessel yet you continue to believe which is not true..... Any I've tried to help you, believe what you want

jln115:
article is dated 16 December 2019

jln115:
So the contract was terminated on the 16 December 2019 then reinstated yet the DB Abuja was received on the 13th of December?? Does that sound right to you?

Yes it does state that(but the contract was terminated unfortunately) but it has nothing to do with DB Abuja and DB lagos which are not Nigerian Navy ships

Odunayaw:
So the DB is the Special mission vessel ba? Just post Ezugwu pictures abeg

Odunayaw:
So how does this prove the DB Abuja is for the Navy. Are you trying to be funny?

There is no navy naming nomenclature that has DB, its either NNS or nothing

jln115:
So how can you receive a vessel from a contract that was terminated??

Secondly nowhere in your entire article does it mention any ships that were bought from de hoop shipyards.

Your article literally has nothing to do with DB Abuja and DB Lagos.

jln115:
Quoting threads now?? Is that's how desperate you are!! both Odunayaw and Toju200 have explained it perfectly to you yet you still refuse to believe the truth

Odunayaw:
Funds didn't come from NN's pockets nor were they recipients of the purchase.

NN are only in the matter because of our Firearms law and their expertise.

Odunayaw:
NN contributes only to its manning (Because of weaponry)

Odunayaw:
Help the thread.

Odunayaw:
What's this nonsense you always try to start with Jln
Its not funny anymore

slimthugchimee2:
You should know its just banter

GeneralFarouq:
Guy what your issue with South Africa

jln115:
SMH I was talking blue water vessels.... Not Patrol boats!!!

But this is besides the point, I'm not going to be drawn in to your d1ck measuring contest because you have a self esteem problem

jln115:
It not operated or owned by the Nigerian Navy.... Get your facts straight

jln115:
now now let's not get ahead of ourselves, you are getting an LST and a hydrographic survey ship......well that's what has been ordered, the rest are still plans.

Damen has already started building 3 62 meter MMIPVs which are classified as OPVs by Damen, After this order the second phase of Project Biro is the acquisition of 3 80meter + OPVs or Corvettes as you like to call them.

Building of the SANs new hydrographic vessel has also begun under project hotel.

jln115:
Not Nigerian Navy!!!