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Faithful007:
I'm sure you clearly understood what I meant. You just want to continue arguing. With their afterburners, the older aircrafts still have max speeds higher than the F35. The reasons the F35 was designed to fly supersonic without afterburners were to reduce cost and to reduce the chances of being hit by MANPADS.

MAN1960:
You always want to win arguments even when you have no reasonable point to make

Please watch attentively maybe you will understand what's his trying to say

Faithful007:
I don't mean it in a tactical way. I mean random shelling without purpose, due to the lack of proper scouting and precise targeting.

Close to a million civilians died in the Tigray war, most from shelling.

Faithful007:
Also when I say that dogfighting is dead, I was talking in context of future major conflicts. Russia isn't fighting against a strong Airforce, so there is no need to waste missiles or use more advanced aircraft. The F22 was hardly used in Afghanistan. Even at that, most kills in Ukraine were still BVR. Many USAF generals have said it that dogfighting is gone so long as you're not fighting against a weak enemy. If Nigeria were at war with America, F16s are more than enough to liberate Nigeria's airspace.

I think your last points agreed with my post. The F35 carries a shitload of electronics for targeting and communications. The integration of target acquisition and communications is what I meant by integrated warfare. That is exactly the focus of the USAF and NATO. Integration and interoperability. At officer school or USAF Undergraduate pilot training you even have foreign military (NATO) teach students.

The last reason is why I find it absurd that people believe that have a foreign military on your soil for training purposes is bad. Heck! the US has way more foreign units and formations on her soil than any other country.

Faithful007:
Bruh this isn't even up for argument. And please, understand that speed is relative. For example, if I tell you that a car is slow, do I now mean that you can run faster than it?

Let me give you examples of typical fighter jet speeds: The F-4 phantom had a top speed of Mach 2.23, The F-111 top speed was 2.5, The MiG 23 was Mach 2.3. These were all third generation fighters. MIG-21 that you have in your inventory is 2.05. The notorious French mirage was 2.25. These are second generation fighters built in the 1950s after world war 2. The MiG -25 that gave the west goosebumps in the 1970s was mach 2.83. So understand it correctly when I say that the F35 is slow. 1.6 is way lower than even the earliest fighters of the 40s and 50s.

Stormtrooper11:
Technically, stealth aircrafts are not stealth we need to understand that.
Also, the jf17 is much advanced than the FA-50. We either purchase the jf17 block 3 or we get Chinese j10c or J31 when massed produced.

The jf17 is also a multirole lightweight fighter aircraft

Faithful007:
Well I wasn't even talking in terms of Africa. Africa is yet to evolve in many areas of warfare. For examples African armies are still stuck in the old style of completely crippling a city they intend to capture with artillery shells fired at almost random.

I was mostly talking in terms of fifth generation aircraft.

Exnavyboy62:
If things go as planned, the Seaward Defence Boats 4&5 will get commissioned by 2025. We could equip them with maybe a Turkish ASELSAN smash 30mm RCWS.

The Chinese donated patrol boat to Nigeria is the same length as the SDBs 4&5 under construction, 46metres. Maybe we could study some tech on the donated patrol boat and improve on it, and apply it on the SDBs 4 &5 just like the way the Chinese study Russian weaponry and make an improved version

Faithful007:
The real dogfighting has almost faded away. Why it was called dogfighting in the firstplace was because of how the two jets shadowed each other with aerobatics. What occurs now is more of witchhunting than dogfighting.

I'll give two reasons why dogfighting is dead. Modern jets like the F35 are slow and not maneuverable. The F22 will be retired sooner as well. Secondly I believe you have noticed in recent times how unfriendly nations often fly their aircraft close to each other's airspace in other to get intercepted. Only those outside Air force knowledge think they're trying to provoke a war. It is far from that. Actually it is more of a game. Both nations do those things to find out how quickly they can intercept or both intercepted. It is a way of testing readiness and evaluating the performance of their fighters against enemy aircraft.

Now why the emphasis on detection/interception? It is currently believed that when two powerful airforces fight, the key to aircraft survival lies in who first detects another and fires his weapon. This is known as BVR warfare.

I just remembered another reason. Cannons are heavily used in dogfighting. But currently they are being phased out. The F35's gun is detachable and is rarely mounted. The Chinese J-20 carries no gun at all. What do you think?

The battlefield of the future will be decided by Technology, Integrated warfare and logistics.

kabe1:
Nigerian army large scale exercise.

Exercise Mugun Bugu

GreenandGold:
You're talking about something you don't know about.... The Basotho are known for stealing livestock in the region for hundreds of years... They have been stealing cows even during the Shaka Zulu era from nearby Zulu settlements....


In fact, South African history is what it is today because of the "butterfly effect" of livestock being stolen by the Basotho from what is now South African territories.

Fynline:
https://www.africaintelligence.com/west-africa/2022/11/10/mbda-and-abuja-still-mired-in-exocet-missile-deal-30-years-on,109843512-art

Odunayaw:
With the track record of NPF, I'm really scared of them having a weaponized drone

kabe1:
MAJOR GENERAL IBRAHIM ALI COMMISSIONS OPERATIONAL VEHICLES, ACCOMMODATION IN BAUCHI.

Odunayaw:
Local man was only about aliens & mysterious revelations