₦airaland Forum

safarigirl:
of the three MAJOR tribes, the Igbo tribe is obviously in a bad position from the election results. Other pocket tribes have mostly been on-lookers so election results rarely affect them

Safarigirl

I agree with your main write up but not with the follow up comment which I just quoted.

I would like to understand what you mean by the "bad position".

It looks like you are predicting doom for APC ,even without giving them a chance.

I agree to the extent that PDP needs to stick around,but it needs reformation and rebranding - I for one would like to see young and capable leaders emerge from PDP. APC might perform better than PDP at the center, but they have an achilles heel - the party is filled with old men who happen to be from the PDP stock.

The PDP campaign in 2019 should be focused on the youth. If PDP presents a young and charismatic candidate,they can stand a good chance.

I cant wait to get registered with PDP if they embrace reforms and rebrand!

PDPs loss at the center is very bad news for Anambra politics ,even though its good for the nation.

Anambra is a politically competitive state as shown by the high number of rich and influential people vying for various political positions - sometimes you see 15 -20 people vying for just one political position !

Somehow ,PDPs grip at the center has kept the brigands busy at the center ,while the state experienced a new lease of life and experienced political peace under sucessive APGA govts. Also the political space was opened at the state level for sincere politicians to emerge and the result is quite visible from the developmental strides recorded so far.

Now that PDP has lost at the center,the PDP brigands/career politicians and the new APC government through Ngige will return for the soul of anambra. Ngige will return with federal might while the PDP guys will ignore the pact of non-agression between the GEJ govt and APGA at the local level. These PDP guys have no scruples !

Obiano must perform and keep his political base strong else he'd be swept away by the coming tsunami !

APGA has been good to Anambra and I hope it remains so.

Politics is over.

Can we build our nation and heal its wounds?

So many insecurities and prejudicial inclination in Nigeria.

I advocate open mindedness and tolerance. OP, I think you need a dose of both.

carpenter:
I have never really understood the theory of bonuses besides the feel good factor which you get by having more units. I would rather have less units as long as the value is the same as twice that number. Anyone care to school me a bit?

Just like yourself,I am never a fan of bonuses. Traders might feel the same way too. Huge OS makes price movements a bit sluggish and sometimes makes nonsense of your holdings if the company experiences sluggish growth or have a low ROE in relation to its OS.

I feel some coys do that to keep the price within the psychological range of attraction for retails investors who equate low prices to cheap valuation.

bigjay01:
Please note that they may also change their mind 'cos of the postponement by CBN of the implementation of Basel[b]X[/b] (where X is II or III, I am not sure) capital adequacy requirements.

Not sure they would change their mind,cant say with certainty though.

But the speed with which they capitalised their Q1-Q3 earnings without recourse to their shareholders shows they care about the perception of their brand and the likely negative brand perception it might trigger if a "whole First Bank" is reported as under capitalised by whatever standards.
Even as CBN extended the capitalisation deadline,I wont also place a huge bet on FBNH paying out handsome dividends.

However,my guts tell me Q4 would be excellent except they "dabaru" the bottomline with operating expenses as has been the case in 9months 2014. My bets are hedged on foreign currency volatility which most Tier 1 banks benefitted from. FBNHs result might be more pronounced as they have foreign subsidiaries (Uk and DRC) which seems to be doing apparently so well and their returned profits in foreign/hard currency would be beneficial to the Nigeria shareholders due to the devaluation of the Naira.

I feel they would want to make a statement,just like their competitors (GTB and Zenith) have done (despite the headwinds) but I'd advise peeps to moderate their expectations,just in case things turn out differently.

Onegai:
Quick question:

In 2011, the entire SW and North Central (Taraba and Plateau and co) overwhelmingly voted for GEJ. In 2015, the same regions gave their votes to Buhari.

So why are you people now calling them tribalistic?

And yeah, us SS people don't align ourselves with Igbo politics. Some of it is tribal but a lot of the animosity stems from the fact you guys are constantly claiming us "our brothers and our cousins" and there is a lot of dominancy to that claim. It makes us uncomfortable (an example of that is when Igbos meet me and expect me to speak Igbo, when I tell them I'm not, they brush it aside and tell me "you are as good as Igbo" as if my identity and culture don't matter. I don't care how similar you think we are, please respect that difference. I don't call everything above the Niger Hausa-Fulani, why should you call SS your kinsman without them welcoming it? ) An Urhobo man won a seat in Lagos, yet all I'm hearing is "Igbos are growing their clout in Lagos", because apparently his tribal identity is now Igbo (btw I'm from his constituency, he was winning Yoruba votes and not Igbo).

My mum queued up for hours to vote GEJ. If it had been an Igbo candidate, she would have realised her back would hurt from all that standing, there would probably be violence at the poll and used quite a lot of excuses to stay at home. Same thing with my relatives and a lot of SS voters.

You constantly lament about being victims of tribalism yet are tribalistic. GEJ got his largest number of votes from SS states and everyone there feels Igbos let him down by not turning out massively to support him. Because they (and i) kept hearing from so many Igbos "GEJ is our man" and no other reason backed it up save misplaced tribal sentiment. No Igbo state could give him up to 800, 000 votes yet here you all are, still arguing and beating your chests.

You've proved you cannot be relied on by any political party attempting to court you (even the SW you're insulting gave him more votes and if I'm a politician now, I will certainly brush up on my Hausa because those guys are loyal )

I'm not starting a war, just being truthful.

I believe you are wrong with your assertion that Igbos did not turn out enmasse to vote for GEJ.

If you had followed the national voter turnout statistics,you'd have realised that apart from Rivers ,Akwa Ibom and Delta ,whose elections were regarded as massively flawed,only Ekiti had an average voter turn out of 57% based on the number of issued PVCs -all SE states conformed to the national average turnout. On that premise,I think it would be wrong for you to use the votes from the mentioned SS states as a yardstick to conclude that Igbos did not support Jonathan. My peeps followed the elections in Rivers state and I can tell you authoritatively that the votes from Rivers were highly inflated, Wike and his crew spent two days in INEC office preparing the results and same can be said of other SS states who broke out of the national average turnout.

Another baseless thread.

Topic and content of the thread are at huge variance.

Richhard:
Now you wanna join the team when they are "winning"?

Too Little

Too Late bro...!


Sai Buhari!

Sai Change!

Join which "winning"team?

Are you really ok?

KanwuliaJara:
Is it different from how the civilized world does it?

Not at all but hey ,this is naija.

I would like to see same if not better from other parties.

KanwuliaJara:
Which set up?
Abi you never see/use projector slides before?

This particular picture doesnt tell the full story.

There are some pictures in another thread showing young lads numbering about a hundred or so ,all glued to their PCs ,apparently monitoring exit polls/sentiments online and feeding back the info into the system.

Thats some good stuff if you ask me.

ManUtdholic:
Bros PDP has theirs

Never knew about that.

Would be nice if we can have a peep.Things like this projects a good image of a candidate/party.

Looking like a mudslide.

Kudos to APC for such sophisticated political strategy.

I am for GEJ but APC got me with this brilliant set up.

All the results you see online are from areas where people are apprehensive that their votes might not count hence they decide to stay behind,witness the counting process and post the results online.

In the SE and SS ,there is no such apprehension cos people know their votes are secured for GEJ -it will rather increase than decrease. So, people cast their votes and leave the PDP party agents to complete the maths. I believe they are still solving the maths,when they are done you'd get the results.

FriedPlantain:
Lies, more Yorubas worked hard to ensure he attains that position. I saw a lot of yoruba boys pasting his posters all across Oshodi and it's environ. If he wins that is because everyone wanted him there, not just the Igbos alone

I dont indulge in tribal dick measuring contest.Its a waste of mental energy.

I have told you as it happened,believe it or not.

santity100:
If this Is true, the yorubas are intellectually superior to the igbos that always vote based on ethnic sentiments.

Can any other tribe try this is the East ?

Dont cast tribal slurs.

His constituency is densely populated by his kinsmen and other non-indigenous people who supported him massively,that made his victory easy.

It was a contested position,not a political appointment.

The new senate Minority leader ?

emiye:
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See him face, i want PDP to lose the centre and retain like 15 states, i want them to stay in opposition and make good efforts to strenghten Nigeria's democracy. PDP must survive o, even if they lose at the centre.

I would like PDP to retain/win economically viable states in the SS and maybe Lagos. Opposition politics needs funding and Tinubu has done a good job by mobilizing funds when needed.

That would streghten the opposition and keep the ruling party on their toes i.e if APC eventually wins.

I would not like a winner takes all situation - APC might take Nigerians for a ride if there is no strong opposition to keep them in check.

rittyben:
No it wasnt. I am in Obio/Akpor LGA

Obio-akpor is a hot zone.

Those GDI boys might have written the results already.

But some areas of Obio-akpor voted yesterday. I guess you guys were the unlucky ones.

cocokiller1:
no election is ongoing in ph o
y people sabi lie

Depends on which area you reside.

I was on the phone with my friends in PH and they all voted.

I know some areas like borokiri, buguma,omoku etc might be volatile and people would not want to be caught in between.

rittyben:
Am in PH now and election is still going on. Pls who is stopping them from voting? SMH

Election going on where in PH??

Thought all elections were concluded yesterday in Rivers state ,except for some riverine areas.

Good Job.

Coming from an APC supporter,it seems authentic.

thewarrior72:
You dirty wh.ro, get your stinking cu.nt off the politics section & troll back to sport & romance section............bastarrrrrd

Well,I do not subscribe to calling a young girl unprintable names because she has a different opinion.

Convince or chastise her,dont insult her.

Thanks.

GentleToks:
I can easily predict what Yorubas would have done if Buhari is paired with Igbo/South south person in this current election my friend but as long as the opposition party is represented by the same Jonathan/Samba who have failed all Nigerians.

And what I am equally sure about is that If a good Igbo man is paired with another good Igbo man(Soludo/the late Nafdac woman) today, I bet my life on this, Yorubas will massively vote for these Igbos or Hausas(Buhari/Lamido Sanusi) as long as the opposition party is filled up with the likes of these following Yorubas- Yoruba paired with Yoruba(Fayose and Obanikoro/Agbaje/Mimiko/Bankole/Omisore/Fani Kayode/Late/living Agagu etc)

Let Ngige come to South west and I can assure you that Ngige might win election against a Yoruba man. The only thing that will count against him in south west is this "political norm" in Nigeria not only in South west but in the North too. Igbos don't give political office to any other tribe which is nothing but the truth

Ngige win an election in the SW ? I take that to be a joke. And I agree with your assertions about the SE, but that is the sad reality of the Nigerian state.

Like I said earlier,all politics are local. If APC had chosen a SS/SE VP candidate,the enthusiasm would have been less and PDP would stand a chance of grabbing some substantial votes in the SW region.

Ilekeh:
Who do we know in the SE that is qualified?

No one, so to answer your question, NO.

Ileke-idi the undisputed troll of nairaland.

Please stay calm,sensible people are talking politics.

You can have your time when we are done

GentleToks:
Mr man, this wrong assumptions about Yorubas and the Northerners is the only singular action that is breaking the relationship between Igbos and Yorubas apart and of course the Northerners. Why all these assumptions when the available fact is cheaply giving you all the necessary fact that you need to know? Why did Yorubas vote against their son in person of Bakare in 2011 and voted for Jonathan massively? Why did Yorubas voted against their son in person of Aremu Obansanjo in 1999? Why did Yorubas voted for Nnamdi Azikiwe party in 60s in Lagos? You see, it's pretty shameful to see people like you and your likes destroying the little-left relationship between Yorubas and Igbos with these assumption; Yorubas are voting for Osinbajo cos he is a Yoruba man u said; highly disappointed in you

Be very honest with me.

If APC had paired Buhari with a SS or SE presidential candidate ,would APC stand a better chance in the SW? .I need an honest answer from you.

All politics are local. And before you go further,need I remind you that some of my family members are core APC volunteers and I speak from a position of knowledge.

customized07:
Any sensible person will know she he isn't Igbo. He isn't good at pretending either.

Shes a young igbo girl whos yet to be schooled in the art of Nigerian politics. She probably have never bothered to understand why her people vote the way they do.

safarigirl:
oh they're worse. I know them, they're my people

No sensible person denigrates his "people" the way you have done on this thread. You even refer to "them" in the third person as "they" instead of "we" ,meaning you dont feel any form of kinship or ties with your supposed people.

Need I remind you that politics is a game of choice and not everyone will vote for the same political party.Majority in the SW embraced APC because of Osibanjo,same in the core north ;I havent seen anyone begrudge them for that - its their political choice and all politics are local.If Jonathan didnt have the support of the SE,the election would have been a no contest,APC would have strolled to victory!

In my own family,my two brothers voted APC while others went for PDP- thats democracy too.

Please apply some rational thinking and dont use the same propaganda shiit you might have subconsciously swallowed on nairaland and elsewhere to taunt your supposed brothers and sisters as lacking political wisdom.

If you dont like your tribe,you can denounce them but dont sit in your neighbors house and throw stones into your fathers house.

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