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sexkillz: [color=#000030]What quotes did i deny? What are you talking about? And how does a non believer know what is right or wrong about what she does not believe in?

This is funny
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Now, I am a non-believer? Because I am not a christian? What are you talking about.

Are you not denying that there is no hell? No torture after death? That God will not punish you for wrongdoings after death? Did you not bring genesis to bring up what heaven means(where birds fly)

Lol! Stop chatting shyt jare.

It is funny because I don't see the sense you are making.

Even if I was a non-believer, I know what right and wrong is because I have been brought up with what is right and wrong. Plus, reading the bible and looking at what you have spewed. Yóu are a confused one.

Shollypopz: I missed cafeteria Sexkillz, I need to go and find something to eat....BRB

LMAO!!

Lool! I mean this shyt is getting really really silly.

The dude is clearly confused and now saying I cannot say he is confused and I don't know the bible because I'm not a christian.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]I told you earlier i am not the kind of Christian you are used to. . . You are not a Christian so i don't expect you to understand or be able to differentiate.

Lol @ a non Christian knowing the difference between a confused Christian or not.

Imagine me telling a Muslim from a fake one, just because i read passages of the Koran. . . Lol
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Am I the only one saying you are confused? You are not the christian I am use to? Oh, the ones who follow and read the bible abi?

By denying quotes in the bible and chatting shyt shows you are confused. Even a kid can see that.

Anyone can tell, whether na hindu, atheist muslim, pagan who has read and studies the bibles knows you are confused about your beliefs.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]You just don't understand.
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No, you don't understand your own faith that's why.

You have your own opinions about a book your believe in that is contradictory but still try to hide behind the book with your opinions.

Be a free thinker. Yes, it's ok to believe in a greater being who made you but not believe in the concept of heaven and hell after death because why would a deity who loves you torture you?

It's ok but please do not use the bible to support you, when it will also say, you will be tortured if you don't play by the rules.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Nne, no offence but shollypopz is thinking here. . . Do the same.

Oh did i mention she is a Christian?
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Stop acting du.mb.
Oh because I am not a christian so I read it but I don't know what the bible says?

LOL! I don't see YOU representing christians anytime soon.

You are a confused christian. Nothing more. Stay there chatting relentless shyt.

Lol, I get this image of sexkillz looking like a spastic anytime he brings up 'the heavens' and 'heaven'



What do you make of the rapture sexkillz?

Do the people go to 'the heavens'(where the birds fly)?

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Suit yourself. I wont even bother.

The only passage you know in the bible is where it talks of hell. And since that is all you know, you missed the explanation when it was explained. Even if you saw it, how do you understand what you don't believe in? Or explain it?

This is funny.
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It's not the bible passage I KNOW sexkillz. You asked for where the bible mentions hell, I quoted it for you and you are here ranting shyt. Even though, I am not a christian, my mum is and she teaches me and I do read it. I am a very open-minded person and I hate ignorance when it comes to this sort of things and close-mindedness. You calling atheists confused people means you are all of the obove plus confused. Plus, you didn't even know the bible mentioned hell and torture after death.

Quote, where hell was explained sexkillz, quote to me where hellfire was explain? Quote me wrong and tell me the bible never mentions where you will be judged and cast in hell for being a bad person.

Abeg, go read your bible before you argue senselessly.

From hell to heaven(where birds fly) wth!

You know that's not the heaven we are talking about.

You are trying to think outside the box but yet still in the box. Come out the box and stop hiding behind your fallacy.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]You are not a Christian? No wonder then. I kept wondering why you couldn't quote from the bible. And why are you arguing about something you do not believe in. So you went and got a verse and kept waving it in my face?

To argue about the bible, you should know what you are talking about, and in this case, you DON'T! Lol
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I know more about your bible than you do a so-called christian.

You want me to quote passages? Of what? How it mentions hell? Did I not.
Stop chatting shyt.
From what I have seen from you, I have studied the bible more than you and I can say your the 'faith' you have is questionable.

Loling@rubbish, when you are basically ranting about rubbish now.
You believe in the bible but you don't believe in hell. <Nonsense
"Oh, when they said heaven, they mean where the birds fly"

Lmaoooo! Most Confused christian!

sexkillz: [color=#000030]So what point did you make here, except LMAO?

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You are a CONFUSED christian who does not believe in hell.

Says you die forever. Same thing an atheist would say.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]You did not prove me wrong. You have been quoting from your head, and i have been showing you from the bible.

Unless you wanna say you do not believe what the bible says, then fine. Don't believe. Lol
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Stop chatting shyt, sexkillz. I'm not a christian but I have gone through the effort to actually go get my mum's bible to quote a passage where is mentions hell.

Stop confusing yourself even more by quote bible passages which contradicts other bible passages.
You were proven wrong by everyone because you do not read your bible.
Go, back to why I quoted you in the first place.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Again, Elijah did not go to the spiritual heaven. And yes, he was transported through the "heavens" where birds fly, to another location. Similar to what airplanes do today.

If he had gone to the spirit realm, Jesus would have said so. Unless of course you wanna say Jesus told a lie.
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LOL! It cannot get any senseless than this.



Jesus mentions hell, does that mean he is lying?


Lmaooo! Mehn, you are the most confused christian I have ever met.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]If the bible confuses you, say so and say you do not understand. That it confuses you doesn't mean it confuses me.

I make an argument and point to the bible. Do likewise. This is a bible discussion. If you cannot support your arguments with the bible, why are you here? Lol
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Sexkillz, you are confused. Just as I have written before. You say atheists are confused but you are the ones who are confused.

I am just showing how confused you are.

You said there is no mention of hell(torture)etc.
Many quotes were posted but you still continue to argue senselessly. Bringing up genesis and not making a sensible point.

You are CONFUSED end of. Stop hiding behind something when you own thinking doesn't even go according to it.

You are not making sense by bring up random quotes from the bible.

You have been proven wrong!

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Yes. There was no prior heaven. . . Where the birds now fly. Vs 6 - 8 explains how that heaven was made.
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Are you ok? You know there is a difference in the bible there is a difference between the 'heavens' where birds fly and the 'heaven'(aka living the good life)






Erm, noone else ever been in heaven apart from jesus?
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2 Kings 2:11
King James Version (KJV)
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Or are you going to say the 'heavens' where birds fly?

Jare, your faith is questionable.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Did you read where it says that the earth was without form and covered with water in vs 2?
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...Hm I hope it is not the argument I think you are trying to get into because that is one of the arguments of many atheists.

What exactly is your point with regards to the earth not having a form?

What has that got to do with hell?

..But wait oo, let me hear where you are going with this.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Well, if you are gonna have a bible based discussion with me, quote from the bible.
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Please! Why should I bother myself when you lack bible knowledge.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]What does Genesis 1 vs 1 say? That is what i quoted.
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Explain what it's says.

You are simply confused.

I told you, contradictions will come up, why? Because the the bible is confusing and to say atheists are confused is silly when you don't even understand what you believe in.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]When Jesus died, where did he go to? Heaven or hell? When Lazarus died, where did he go to? Heaven or hell? When they were both resurrected where were they coming from?

That is the problem. People rely on religious leaders to tell them all, whereas, they twist the bible and feed to them.

I have shown you what they bible said. I QUOTED the bible. . .
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You quoted nonsense. You said there is no hell.

Now, you are saying religious leaders are twisting the bible. Are you not twisting the bible to your own way of life?

You are all a bunch of confused people.

Again, I will ask, how is this different to the ancient religions?

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Genesis 1 vs 1. In the beginning, God created the heavens(with an "s" and the earth. Now ask yourself. Where was God when he created the heavens and the earth?

this is easy.
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Lol@him going to ' in the beginning'

If you are open-minded and read genesis carefully you will also see that the world was not newly made in the way it was written.

All part of the confusions of religion.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]How come they all missed this from Google? Lol
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Do you see how your bible contradicts itself?

I can swear on my left shoe it said one prophet ascended to heaven in a chariot of fire.

Do you see the confusion of religion I talked of?

sexkillz: [color=#000030]When did i tell you John 3:13 spoke of 3 layers of heaven?

And did you bother to read what hornipipe has been pasting from Google, or do you just wanna win? Lol

read and understand dear, read and understand.
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Erm, I read it and it basically confirms everything slim, sholly and I have been arguing.

Stop using it as you please.

You don't believe in hell, does not mean it isn't stated in the bible.

It's not something you can fall back on with that argument. If that was the case, what's the point of christians doing there best to believe in something that was written by men? Why would they do their best to follow the teaches of God if there were no threats of torture?

sexkillz: [color=#000030]There are elements of truth in what you said here. The bible and the meanings of what is written in it has been twisted since the 1st century. It takes a while to understand the the bible. . . It took me years to understand the bible. . .
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I don't think you understand the bible. You are putting your own mind into it.

If you ask any bible believer, even pope, they will tell yóu there is hell.

If not, you are all confused. You talk of what is written but make it into your own.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]I am questioning YOU and asking you to READ for yourself. If you cannot read that from your bible, then i cannot help you.

I quoted what the bible said. . .
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LOL! Sexkillz, you don't have to help you, I am trying to help you sort your confusion.

...And I quote what the bible says.

See, what I mean by CONTRADICTION.

You said there is no hell but the bible does say there is hell. Yet, you found a quote which says that God does not torture eternally(will go look into that passage)

...But he could torture small, nau but not eternal?
Again, "says the one who will probably use contradictory arguments to make his point."

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Yes i have read my Bible. . .

A loving God does not torture anyone eternally. In Romans 6:23 the bible says that the wages or consequences of sin, is death. Romans 6:7 also says that he who has died has been acquitted from his sin.

Now, if a man dies, gets acquitted for his sin, has paid the wages of his sin, does it make sense to punish him again? In whatever fire? Does it sound reasonable for me to be punished for a debt i already paid?

John 5:28 and 29 says that in the last day, they would hear his voice and come out from their graves. . . Resurrected. Now ask your self. Where was Lazarus before Jesus Christ resurrected him? Was he in heaven? Was he in hell for that 4 days?

If Jesus called out to Lazarus and he was resurrected, that is the same way he would accomplish what is said in John 5:28 and 29.

For a person to die forever means he is not resurrected.

I have shown all these from the Bible, pls prove them wrong or forever hold your peace. . . Lol

think people, think.
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Sexkillz, stop loling. You are questioning your faith, therefore showing you are not the 'christian' I thought you are when you told me there is a difference between following and practicing. If you read the bible you will also read where it mentions judgement day.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]The heavens where the most high resides is spiritual. The other 2 are physical. When Jesus was on earth, he said no one has been to that spiritual heaven except the one that came from there. . . Him.
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Erm, who was the guy who ascended to heaven in a chariot of fire wasn't that before jesus' time?

Where did jesus quote that?
Never came across it.
If it's indeed in the bible, do you remember when I wrote, "says the one who will probably use contradictory arguments to make his point" or something similar to that?

slimyem: this has got to be the biggest religious nonsense i've ever heard!
Damn!
Sexkillz..damn!
I am seriously lmao-ing here...
Jeez!
Goodday/goodnight everyone!!
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.and btw,sexkillz,have you considered writing your own bible..
Seem like God's been speaking to you gangstar style..
It'll be nice to read those theories of yours in print and hard-cover!

Lmao@GOd speaking to him gangster style.


@sexkillz, I believe I understand your thinking. You believe in a deity but don't believe in the concept of torture after death. That is fine, but don't associate that with christianity or the bible.

At the end of the day, we don't know anything. There is no evidence that someone died and came to tell us about what happens after death.

Live your life and do good with a clean heart, if indeed it is what religion says but never ever change the context of the bible to what you see fit. That's the problem nowadays. People using religious books to hide behind whilst doing evil.

Ooo kl.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]If you read Job 14 vs 13, there you will see where Job, the faithful man was praying to be protected in hell. . . Hell, gehenna, hades, sheol all mean one thing: The common grave of mankind a.k.a. 6 feet.

When the bible says those who reject Jesus would go to hell forever, simply means they would die forever. . .

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Sexkillz, have your ever read your bible?

With the threats of eternal torture in hell after death etc. You still say the bible never mentions any of this?

What the hell does die forever mean?

You are basicallÝ agreeing with atheists saying when you die that's it. Nothing more.
Gawddamit, go read your bible mehn.

saint pipe: In the synoptic gospels Jesus uses the word Gehenna
11 times to describe the opposite to life in the
Kingdom (Mark 9:43-48).[18] It is a place where both
soul and body could be destroyed (Matthew 10:28) in
"unquenchable fire" (Mark 9:43).

Thank you for going through all that effort.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Goodbye then.
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LOL! Nu uh! I want you to admit that the bible does mention hell.

Plus, I want to see what other confusions you have about your 'faith'.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Like i said earlier, MOST Christians are confused, and do not know these things.
Lol
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Just like you.

Lol! Before it was those who 'follow' religion who are confused not those who 'practice" it. Now, most are confused.
LOL!

I guess my argument served it's purpose.

Shollypopz: You are changing d argument

Sexkillz what's ur view on Heaven.
This place is too crowded walahi!!

He is changing his argument. He knows it's in the bible, he is trying to now make it personal.

Sexkillz, argument=there is no mention of hell aka hellfire in the bible.

The bible is not his personal experience. It's something that all christians can see and try to relate their lives with.

This argument would not be if he simply said, "personally, I don't believe in hell"

Shollypopz: @Sexkillz:
My view on hell:

I don't believe d hell in the bible meant literal fire. Is this what u're saying??

No, that's not what he means. He means there is no hell end of. He was made on earth and will die. Just like that.