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Supreme Court upholds elections of Rochas Okorocha (APGA) and Emmanuel Uduaghan (PDP) as governors of Imo and Delta (NAN) - @MobilePunch

Supreme Court has upheld the election of Delta and Imo state governors . - @Channels_TV

Rochas, will now be able to completely partake in the interment of his late party leader – Ikemba/Ojukwu.

Even if that were the case, it's not reason enough for a mother to meddle in her daughter's marriage and walk her out of it.
If it's that bad, the daughter should be able to make the decision herself. . .
If she lacks the capacity to, then she had no business getting married in the first place.

Poster,
Go over to your MIL's place and get your baby by fire - by force. . .Your wife can remain with her mother if she wants.

God Bless you for this post which is far more realistic than all the other gender supporting posts.

Dear Sirs,

I am writing in regard to your article (02/25/01) on the prophet T.B. Joshua entitled MIRACLE MAN. As a Christian Pastor and teacher I am concerned about some of the aspects of this prophet's ministry which are either unreported or perhaps unappreciated for their significance.

In the light of the fact that we believe we are living in the last days before Jesus' return, and that one of the warnings Jesus gave us was that immediately before that time there would arise "False prophets", who would be able to perform "signs and wonders so that if possible they would be able to deceive even the very elect", it is extremely important that we be all the more discerning.

I don't know Pastor Joshua's heart. Indeed, it seems to be that he is a very sincere man living a simple lifestyle. Rather than taking money constantly (as a good many of the celebrated televangelists do) there are stories of T.B. Joshua's generosity to the poor who struggle to come to him for healing. Nonetheless, we are told to be discerning in our evaluation of anything which claims to be "of God".

"Try the Spirits to see whether they be of God" (I John 4). There are several caveats I offer to those who are seeking discernment regarding these phenomena,

o On a French television interview, Prophet Joshua said that he had received this 'gift' at birth. In God's word, the true Gifts of the Spirit of God are not bestowed at birth to anyone - see 1 Cor:12-14. One must first be converted to Christ to have God's Spirit indwelling one - and even then the gifts are distributed "as the Spirit wills".

o Transubstantiation - On videotape distributed by the Synagogue of all Nations, a "Blood of Jesus " service was shown. It consisted of the Prophet Joshua blessing a huge tank of water, touching each of twelve running spigots, proclaiming them to now be "the blood of Jesus". The congregation Were then shown rushing forward, pushing and pulling among themselves, seeking to get to those spigots first, that they might drink, splash, and in some cases even shower in "the blood of Jesus". This is perhaps the most disturbing aspect of it all as it turns the Biblical doctrine of the blood of Jesus (His vicarious death) into a sensuous, superstitious experience. No Priest or Prophet can turn any substance into the blood of Jesus - that is more akin to paganism and magic than Christianity. The blood of Jesus was shed as a sacrifice to God the Father, not as a potion to be splashed and bathed in!

o False separation between the Sheep and the goats- In addition to the other antics at the blasphemous "Blood of Jesus " service, as the people pushed, pulled and shoved forward to participate in the so-called blood, those who had "agents of Satan", were put into a demonic frenzy, rolling on the ground, through the muck and mire (more on that next) screaming and
moaning in agony. There is demon possession indeed, but one would look in vain anywhere in the scriptures to find any deliverance service remotely resembling this so called "Blood of Jesus" service. Joshua proclaimed this as the" separation of the sheep and the goats", which actually takes place at Judgment Day.

o There is also a degrading and even humiliating aspect to these healings. When Christ healed it was in a dignified manner. True man is below, God is above, but man is not "Nothing", he is made "In the Image of God". In the Joshua videotape, released by the Synagogue, men with rectal cancer are asked to take down their pants, before others, both before and after the healing. A woman is made to bare her breasts, one showing cancer, and stands in front of a mixed assembly in the agony of her pain. As the healing progresses, her breast is seen oozing puss onto her dress and flowing down to make a puddle on the floor.

People are seen "Vomiting their troubles away" on the floor. Some vomit blood, others vomit rocks, shells, large worms and live insects. There is no scripture for this. Where did Jesus or His apostles ever do any such things? Yes these stains can be seen on the floor, the very spots where people vomited blood, and where women are seen on camera passing bloody "fibroids" from between their legs! And then on this same floor, people are put into trances, laid out on that same floor, (you can see the spots) and those in trances are seen rolling about in those spots.

Remote control- T.B. Joshua uses a technique called "remote control". Standing about ten feet away from "patients", with hand motions he manipulates their motions: By scooting his hands to the left, the patient seems irresistibly drawn to the left; and to the right, the patient goes to the right; by circling his hands, Joshua sends the patient into a circle, often until they spiral out of control, falling into a dazed heap! Once again, this method is more akin to occult healing practices than it is to Biblical healing and in the compassionate manner of Jesus Christ.

Another similar technique is called "point of contact". For example, the bare-breasted woman suffering in agony from cancer, before the congregation, Joshua stands about 15 feet away, and rubs his chin vigorously, This then evidently affects her cancerous breast, in some way. In contrast, the healing of the woman with the issue of blood in Luke 8:44, simply touched Jesus and was healed!

o Calling Fire from heaven - Joshua has the power to call fire from heaven upon the body parts of sinning members of his congregation! A woman in the video is seen clutching her private parts in agony as Joshua's fire cleanses her of the sin. This causes mild amusement of others in the audience. It does not bring fear of God! We are told in the book of Revelation that the false prophet calls fire from heaven to the amazement of those under delusion!

o Joshua has strange beliefs. For example, he is a vegetarian : he told an interviewer that many of the people he ministers to in the area of deliverance are "Half fish and half man". In another interview, he said that "the divine person" within him can appear to thousands simultaneously, even coming to them in their dreams! This is not Biblical or Christian!

In closing, I don't pretend to know Joshua's motivation; by all accounts he seems to be a very sincere man. However sincerity is no safeguard against deception. I am sure Edgar Cayce, Jean Dixon and countless other prophets, who by Christian, Biblical standards would have to be regarded as False, were equally sincere and unassuming. There are countless warnings in scripture
about the emergence of False Prophets and teachers who like Pharaoh's magicians, withstood and hindered the true gospel by means of signs, wonders and miracles. Just because Joshua seems to be able to produce "results", doesn't make him a man of God, nor should we go there. The end does not justify the means. The very idea of having to go to Nigeria to receive a healing, or a miracle, or a Word from God, is unscriptural.

"Jesus Christ is the same, Yesterday, Today, and forever". He is as closer to us today as our breath, for "Whosoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved".

We at Moriel Teaching Ministries SA will happily verify these claims by providing access to the video we have cited here today. Any one needing further clarification can contact us.

Sincerely, Pastor Bill Randles
(Reply to YOU magazine following an article. Note: Even Radio Pulpit is promoting him)

@sauer
in other words, Asa considers lesbianism not to be of high moral standing!!!! Lesbians take note.

stupidest comment to ever surface on NL. What do you mean "Asa considers, "?
Is that supposed to be a stamp of authority. Come on!
I'm actually surprised her argument was from that standpoint. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that group of people to whom you refer, except of course your aim is to argue blindly

Did you really reflect on my post prior to your rejoinder? How could you not comprehend my standpoint? Asa and her manager in their own words declared that the lesbianism indictment was "defamatory statement calculated to discredit and malign them in their ‘unblemished’ career as international music artists with high moral standing, which they have consistently conveyed in her songs". In your rage and haste to counter my post, you couldn't note that in Asa’s world, lesbianism is not of “high moral standard”. Why is your antagonism focused on me rather than Asa? Essentially, if I am gay, I won't shore up Asa’s musical career again, either by purchasing her records or paying for her shows. If you are gay, that's the least I expect from you too.

Additionally, in the below link, you see more of what people need to know about Tb Joshua and his ministry.
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/tbjoshua.html

Asa and her manager alleged that defamatory statement was calculated to discredit and malign them in their ‘unblemished’ career as international music artists with high moral standing, which they have consistently conveyed in her songs

, in other words, Asa considers lesbianism not to be of high moral standing!!!! Lesbians take note.

Yesterday?

Almost thought he was born in a leap year.

HBD all the same!

What kind of thoughtless post is this.

Yesterday?

Almost thought he was born in a leap year.

HBD all the same!

What kind of thoughtless post is this.

Yesterday?

Almost thought he was born in a leap year.

HBD all the same!

What kind of thoughtless post is this.

In Greece, people believe it is bad luck to get married in a leap year. On the other hand, in Ireland, women can propose to a man.

I wish am in Ireland today.

Fellow nairalanders,im new here,but i have a serious problem i will like to share with us,and hopefully find a solution via ur advice and contributions.I got married last year.After my marriage,my hubby decided not do anything to contribute financially to the family.He was trading before we met and married,but after the marriage,i noticed that he wasnt going for his business anymore,and when i enquired from him,he said things aint going well.I tried getting jobs for him and even stocked a shop with goods for him,yet he didnt make anything out of it and it went down the drain.He lost hope and decided to stay at home all day.I started getting agitated about it.Secondly he never told me about his erectile dysfunction,and since we never made love before marriage due to my spiritual life and belief i didnt know about it until after marriage.We have tried medically,but it aint working.I threatened to walkout of the marriage,and to my suprise,the mum took him in,and he has been with the family since xmas,and now the mum is helping him get out of the country so that we dont reconcile.Please what do i do?I need ur honest and sincere advice

Don't use religious emotions to mislead this forum. Your spiritual belief claim is deceptive, because I am 10000000% convinced that this yarn is a bloody lie. There's no single motivation whatsoever for any rational person to stay-put in this sort of marriage. You were even afforded a faultless break when the man budged and you are still at this point on the lookout for advice? Abeg, if you need advice, tell the true story.

kai-kai story,

, no wonder indivisibility of nigeria is a popular slogan of the north.

That won't work with you now; I can learn from instruction, observation, contemplation and experience. You can only learn from verification by your own admission.

Karpentar, I hereby appoint you as the Chairman of the verification committee on this story. To look into its every nook and cranny as well as leave no stone unturned and reach a verifiable conclusion on the matter.

Have you ever questioned why some white dude's painting is hung as Jesus' in virtually every church when he isn't actually eeeerm- Jesus? Please, whilst you are out there verifyyyyyyyying, verify that as well.

I am damn too busy pursuing an insignificant venture that doesn’t alter anybody’s belief. Of what use will such verification be to anyone on this planet?

At any rate there's a picture, be it "white dude painting”. Meanwhile, I haven't seen any picture of your own violent inciter be it arab dude painting or whatever. That will also be essential to facilitate an all-inclusive verification.

Come and enter my brain to find-out now, you wouldn't believe if I told you, you need to be a cell in my brain to believe it now- no be you?

Then stop making worthless bigotry statement of others not questioning Christianity. It might just be in their brain cells as well.

Another bitter bigot. I am sure if the same Vanguard Newspaper says Boko Haram killed hundreds of Christians somewhere in the North, you wouldn't question it. It would be a fact to you without question.

This story is unverified by who? Go and verify with the Shogunle Area boys now and see if they will not break something for your head. Imagine, he wants me to question something that Christians in the report and even here have acknowledged to be a not-so-uncommon occurrence. Over and above that, I have known of such things for over a decade- you have an over-bloated sense of grandeur Mr. karpentar.

If it was Pastor X that was discovered in the same state, this thread would be on page 20 by now filled with 'firm believers' who would be 'praising the lord'.

Keep your shallowness to yourself!

All these blah blah does not in any relate to what I asked: What have you questioned about Islam?

I get your point, emphasize the word "expose" in that my post. They like to think of themselves as the essence of perfection. This thread just brought them out in a way that they try to hide. I posted a story, you don't believe it, no problem keep quiet. Okay, you want to express your doubts- express them and keep quiet.

However, what did we find? Name-calling, insults and outright hostility- There are so many reasons for this but it suffices to say that most Christians especially the younger ones are ignorant of their religion and hopelessly ignorant about Islam, add that to their false sense of grandeur and the UP! UP!! JESUS!!! village man mentality and you have a recipe for disaster waiting to happen.

Exposed and enlightened Christians will agree with this, but watchout for the dogmatic minions, they are coming soon to regurgitate the one-liners and clichés that they have been fed with all through their lives without questioning it.

On your own side, what have you questioned about Islam? Some Fellow dies and there's an unverified claim of non rotting of the corpse after 10 years in the pit, and to you and other folks alike that implies a miracle, even though the said man remains VERY VERY dead? What a disgrace and tragedy religion has become in Africa. So religious, yet still the continent weighed down with so much disasters, poverty, criminality, corruption and every bad thing you can think of.

How they made a Boko Haram follower moderator is beyond any human comprehension

ask them oh!!!!!

@deols
Curiosity still on. Please clarify me on the reward for women suicide bombers killing pagans for allah. As you and me know, men get 77 virgins doing same thing, and I don't think an impartial allah would allow benefits for only men in this worthy allah agenda. There must be something too for females. Again, is it 77 Bill Gates as somebody ones informed me or is it muscular men? Why are you so silent about this? If you don't know, please honestly say so to enable me do more research and educate other ignorant folks like me.

firs, when anything out of the ordinary happens, we give glory to Allah- we say subhanallah. embalming the dead is a possibility , we knoow that.

But in Islam, we believe in the protection of the body of the dead  when they say the shahada before they die. So, we encourage the dying Muslim to say it. it is this understanding that makes us say Allahu Akbar when such as this happens.


Wa Allahu a'lam.
Quote from: danielonyisi on Today at 12:44:08 PM
no one can be like JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH that they killed and he resurrected after the third day

who cares for resurrection?? .Resu rrection is a lie.No one dies twice

Resurrection is a lie? That, you are sure right? but you believe a trash story about a man whose body refused to decompose despite 10 years in the pit. You are delusional. On another matter, as woman, when you terrorise for allah by suicide killing of "pagans", what's your reward? I know men get 77 virgins. Somebody once suggested, that perhaps, female bombers will get 77 Bill Gates as rewards. Is that correct?

I can understand why christians are getting agitated over this news because they know that if it is true, it shows that islam is the true way to God. This kind of miracles have been happening with pious muslims over the the centuries, I once read of a similar thing about a muslim who died in Ede and his body was exhumed intact after several years. The news was carried by The Punch Newspaper of 26/9/2009.  anybody can verify it.

Let's for argument sake assume that this trash story is correct. How does it in anyway show that "Islam is the true way to God"? The man is still dead for heaven's sake. Should I then in corollary suppose that millions of other dead muslims whose bodies decomposed are kind of fake muslims and are perhaps roasting in hell? Most times, religion, especially in Africa, makes people reason from their a.r.ses?

This is a bloody lie and not possible scientifically. It is therefore a trash story only meant for satisfaction of religious fanatics. Enjoy your fantasies.

Funmi and Agatha are ugly. Mo is beautiful. There's no way on earth, I won't prefer a finer person.

@Diluminati

Just shut up, you've lost this uncalled-for argument. May be you should seek for other dumb internet articles and post for further debates.

"isi ewu"

@al-ahamad

I must say your point about the state gov nd LG is valid to a large extent but we all know that Nigeria has always been about the FG nd if the FG can put their acts right, nothing will stop the state govs to follow and so with the LGs, I say this cos am using Lagos as an example. Fashola's programs and hardwork reflects in every sector u can think of, needless to go further I believe u and BEAF are nothing but blind fools(mean that more as a reality rather than insult but if u feel it the other way round then phuck you both).  You both arte as clueless as the fool in Aso villa.

It is natural for the immature to insult others.
Getting angry with them is like resenting a fire for burning. Peace to you!!!!!

@demdem

Its true so much corruption is going on in all these states however there is little or nothing anyone can do to confront these powerful govs if the FG doesnt wake up to its responsibility to lead by good example. is it Akpabio u ordinary citizen want to question or amaechi or fashola or Kwankaso etc Akpabio for example is noted to silence his critics violently.

Following your argument, it then implies that if Goodluck chooses to conduct himself in the same brutal manner as the Governors you listed in your post, then, your questioning or scrutiny stops? Incredible reply!!

@demdem

If we also channel our checks and centre of attention on State Governments and LG Chairmen, I believe, it will further reduce the needless poverty in this federation. Why so much emphasis on the Federal arm? Are you not informed of the enormous funds allocated monthly to the States and LGs? Is the prudent handling of these public funds not of any concern whatsoever to you?

If I were to be a politician and have to make a choice, especially, in Nigeria, I may safely favour being a governor. So much funds at my disposal and yet I can elect to do nothing while being ignored by people like you.
It’s very uncommon to see any form of protests by NLC or other unions at the state or LGs level in spite of widespread ineptitude and corruption in those places.

That's part of the issue Beaf was trying to underline. But in your bid to prevail in the argument, you continue to recycle self centred articles and quotes from folks far away from you that don’t even bother about you. I always believe confederation is the best for a place like Nigeria.

I know you will still reply and ignore all the salient points and may even add some insults. I am used to such in this tribalistic Nairaland.

I so co-sign Anatycal and Mutter's last posts respectively.
I can imagine the OP getting ready for a steamy "kpekus filled" night while the wife is busy,prophesying in the living room or the wife now sees anything but missionary as sin,stops bothering about her physical looks etc.LMAO

@OP,change is good and welcome.Spiritual growth is god too.I suggest you talk with your wife with an open mind.There should be a healthy balance.

All these suggestions of sitting her down and talking to her? You guys really serious about that!!! I consider it unfeasible and an absolute misuse of time. At her zealous mode now, there's never going to be anything rational in whatsoever her husband says. She’d rather listen to her spiritual adviser, pastor or praying partner. So nairalanders try to be realistic in your advices. Me I don’t have any. As far as am concerned, marriage between people of dissimilar religious inclinations can hardly be pleasurable in the long run, especially if one is the fanatical type,  But, do you guys actually imagine that God will present a spiritual gift to either of the couples that could result in disharmony and scattering of a family? I believe God wont. This leads me to even go as far as inquiring the real spirit that might have possessed this Mrs Wife.

I think Rihanna desires the reunification more, from the time when the break up transpired, she's being dressing up like a w.h.o.r.e on the lookout for every chance to be photographed and perhaps revealing to Chris what he's lost, etc

that's discrimination against men, its unfair!!!!!!!!

face saving mission, hypocrite.