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KingEbukasBlog:
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1. And you are an atheist ? If you agree that doubt is vital to finding the truth , why then are you an atheist ? How is that logical ?



2 Go to a bible believing church and ask for help . There are fellowship groups for people like you . You can ask questions , try to know experiences with God , scrutinize and try it out yourself

1. I became a skeptic because i doubted my earlier belief in a monotheistic God. If i didn't make that doubt then i wouldn't be here now. But that aside. Imagine an ignorant man with doubt, don't you think he would learn faster if he believed he isn't to hold on to his ignorance?

2. Whenever you talk about bible churches, ask yourself why bibles are special

KingEbukasBlog:
Huh ?

If you followed the trail of back and forth messages carefully, you would find that you made an argument that God was uncaused because he was within a dimension that lacked causality. I went a step further and asked if entities like a Universe or multiverse in a dimension without causality would be uncaused as well

KingEbukasBlog:
Universes don't have the propensity for that but its a chimerical belief atheists have though . . God is the precursor of everything that exists .



Omnipotence -God is all powerful ... remember ?

Why should a Universe or any other entity in a dimension without causality, be caused?

KingEbukasBlog:
Infinite regression .

God dwells in a different dimension where the law of cause and effect do not exist . Heaven does not exist in this universe .

Beautiful answer. You said God dwells in a different dimension where the law of cause and effect doesn't exist.

1. You concede to a dimension without causality which can apply in a vast array of circumstances. Just as God need not be caused, an alternate universe or a multiverse need not be caused as well for the same reason.

2. An entity in a dimension without causality is hardly able to influence causality at all. What's your explanation for God's ability to cause the heavenly realms and the Universe?

Is it possible for God to pour precious wine into dirty jars or bottles?

Do you realize that there is a barrier between Jesus's actual teachings and you the end consumer?

I wonder what star takes the lazy brainless and superstitious cowardly people

winner01:
I think its more rational to believe in the power of an intelligent being than the power of a blind accidental explosion.
Explosions are not intelligent I think, they couldnt possibly create all we see now, could they.

What does intelligence mean?

KingEbukasBlog:
Does atheism have archaeology as a doctrine or pillar in its ideologies

You asked if science validates my beliefs and I agreed by mentioning archaeological science a

Which no atheist has ever used and will ever use
You don't doubt the truth , do you ? Do you doubt you exist ? Do you doubt what you have knowledge of ?

I lack the belief in the existence of God cos I know God exists .

Hasn't that being found It stated that Christ did not resurrect - its heretical and heterodox . There are other heretical teachings like Arianism and heretical sect like Mormonism and they never changed anything till date .

No archaeology is not a pillar of atheism. But you easily misunderstand me. I wasn't asking about archeology as a means validation of the Christian Faith but as an internal tool within the religion to reach God.

Doubt is vital to finding the truth. because it renders our presumptions shaky and forces us to questions our presumptions and dig out the truth. Except you assume you were born with the truth doubt is essential.

How do you know God exists and you want to persuade about his existence where would you direct my mind?

KingEbukasBlog:
Biblical events have been buttressed by archaeological science . The history of Christ have been approved as truth by historians . Then of course mystical events which are beyond the ambit of science .

But Christianity doesn't have archaeology as a doctrine or pillar in its teachings. Would a finding of the Book of Barnabas change the teachings of Christ?

In respect to Reason and logic, does Christianity allow rigorous reasoning of its doctrines or doubt in respect to its teachings?

KingEbukasBlog:
Well , Christians who adherents of Christianity are involved in scientific researches . Science should thank the involvement of Christianity in the middle ages and now . Medieval Catholic mathematicians and philosophers such as John Buridan, Nicole Oresme and Roger Bacon were founders of modern science . Christians are way more distinguished and accomplished than other religion's adherents and atheists combined in the past 800 years of modern science .

These are facts new atheists of the 21st century are oblivious of .

The question was carefully couched in such a manner it doesn't concern the single adherents of the faith, rather is scientific research a core of Christianity as Faith to a point that a scientific truth is accepted unconditionally as a pillar of the religion

KingEbukasBlog:
All three and more

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Christianity is involved with scientific research? How?

KingEbukasBlog:
Oh . Yeah sure , Christianity does that .

Through what means does it find its truths? Is it through revelation or scientific research or good reasoning?

KingEbukasBlog:
What truth exactly ? Please explain in detail

I'm surprised you ask "what truth". Does your Christianity tell the truth about God, Life, Jesus etc

KingEbukasBlog:
Honey ,you just rephrased the question

Ok . Just tell me the point you are trying to make

Through what means do you find the truth?

An earthly resurrection

KingEbukasBlog:
I've already stated that - you can go back and review them .
Much more than that

But if Christianity does not tell the truth, it would be as worthless as other religions right?

dejavubobo1:
is it not a means of exchanging for value (POS), & also an instrument for ur withdrawal to be honored on request... it works as a/an (electronic) cheque
& remember a cheque is a bill of exchange.

No it's not. The requirements of a bill of exchange are very precise and provided for in the relevant statute. but good reasoning

dejavubobo1:
CBN or no CBN, its a discretionary act, the bank can release ur ATM upon evidence of ownership presented by the customer
Bt at an event whr the customer can't provide any, the card ll be destroyed

this is as for bill of exchange, which I believe an ATM also belongs to this class.

Abi, make I go check my banking law books make I no confuse OP d more. ... its been long

How is an ATM card a bill of exchange ? what's the face value?

spartacus11:
if u can't differentiate between taxation and oil revenue that is ur headache, so if chevron pay PAYE of his staff to government u call it oil revenue , if oando filling station pay VAT to government u call it oil revenue, please can u define what is taxation ,

700.000 company's are targeted to be on the tax net as against the 500.000 company estimate this year, so all these company are oil company, how many private university do we have in this country, how many telecommunication, how many financial institution do we have in nigeria, so tax from those sectors are oil revenue, Glo office was sealed in the month of May this year for not remitting VAT to the government for 27 billion. now what do u think will be the VAT for MTN airtel and other telecom, our banks, insurance company's, stock broker agencies. tax from Jumia Konga VAT of every item sold, jumia sold 4 billion in year 2015 what do hou think will be the VAT from the company on every item sold? i never knew taxation is oil revenue according to ur logic

The oil revenue materializes through these special taxes. The government has a petroleum tax as separate from company income tax

spartacus11:
ur argument is laughable, are terrorist not attaching france, USA germany so will u say their ability to cause those attack means the government of countries have not defeated this terrorist group?. a government can not stop total attack from terrorist name one country that has done so Thailand was attack yesterday 21 dead, so what are u saying, a war that started 2010 claim territory bigger than the nation of Belgium, where moving freely on those zones, is that the case today, when last did u hear a bomb blast in nigeria.

The debate here is not whether the West does not suffer terrorist attacks. Yet the fact that ISIS or Boko Haram can deliver devastating attacks means they are not defeated.

spartacus11:
the increase in revenue was 253.9 billion and that increase came from non oil revenue so are u saying u didn't see that. and total allocation shared in may was about 300 billion so if in june non oil revenue was able to produce 253 billion are u now saying u are still waiting to buhari to diversify when the diversification has stated yielding fruit.

Nigeria levies a 85% tax on tax chargeable income of oil companies that money passes through the FIRS as well. And Nigeria makes billions through this means. Now the fact that FIRS produces more doesn't necessarily mean the non oil revenue rose that dramatically.

spartacus11:
this should answer your question if u think fashola lied or was not stating the true fact, allocation shared in june was 75% from non oil revenue which has never happen in this country before, if u think the diversification is a gymic then u should read this.


or the first time in the 2016 fiscal period, the federal, states and local governments got monthly allocation from the Federation Account of N559.03 billion.
This is as the gross revenue generated by the federation increased by N301.32 billion, the highest in almost two years.
The Minister of Finance, Mrs Kemi Adeosun, announced this in Abuja on Thursday while addressing newsmen at the end of the FAAC meeting
She attributed the increase in revenue to efficiency in collection by the revenue generating agencies.
“The big cause of the increase is the improvement of non-oil revenue from FIRS. The FIRS improved its performance between last month and this month by N165 billion.
“And that accounted for the change in revenue and also, there was also an improvement of N12.6 billion by Nigeria Customs Service, as well as the exchange gain of N79.2 billion.
“This is a significant improved performance especially customs that was able to do so in spite of the scarcity of foreign exchange and the restrictions on the 41 items.
“So we are quite encouraged by that because it means that some of the reforms that we had started around collection improvement are beginning to bear fruit,”.
Giving a breakdown of the amount shared, Adeosun said N412.3 billion was distributed under statutory allocation; N67.4 billion under Value Added Tax revenue while the balance of N79.27 billion was allocated from gains made from exchange rate differential.
She said the Federal Government received N199.75 billion; states N101.3 billion, local governments N78.11 billion whileN17.12 billion was shared to oil producing states based on the derivation principle of 13 per cent.
For VAT, she said the Federal Government received N9.7 billion, states N32.35 billion while local governments got N22.67 billion.
“The gross statutory revenue of N538.78 billion received was higher than the N237.46 billion received in the previous month by N301.32bn.
“The average price of crude oil increased from 32.26 dollars in February to 38.64 dollars in March2016, resulting in 92.99 million dollars increase in federation export revenue.
“There was an outstanding increase in Companies Income Tax and Petroluem Profit Tax with complementary increases in import duty and royalties.”
Adeosun put the balance in the Excess Crude Account at 3.94 billion dollars as at July 20, indicating an increase of 1.68 billion dollars over the the 2.26 billion dollars in the previous month.
When asked about plans to stimulate the economy away from the looming recession, the minister said that there was no need for panic as the fundamentals of the economy were still strong.
Meanwhile the Chairman, Commissioners of Finance Forum, Mr John Inegbedion, said with the improved revenue for the month, all 36 states would be able to pay salaries for the month.
Also, the Commissioner of Finance, Cross River, Mr Asuquo Ekpenyong, said the state would start processing May and June salaries for payment. (NAN)

There is no breakdown showing that 75 per cent of revenue in June was from non oil revenue

thegoodjoehunt3:

The Answer the same yes. Boko Haram is defeated. What we have are footprints of their harms.

Boko Haram no more control territories.

It is a bit dubious to say Boko Haram is defeated when they lose territory rather than the capacity to inflict violence and grab territory.

spartacus11:
sonu agree they are retreating, do u retreat when u have not been dealt a big blow or when u are not losing the war?

1- is boko haram still powerful as they use to YES or NO

2- is boko haram still causing havoc as they use to YES or NO

3- are our military now in control of sabistal forest same one past government could not enter YES or NO

4- is boko haram on the run YES or NO

5-has our military stop running from boko haram as they us to before YES or NO

6- are people now returning back home YES or NO

answer this question and tell me if boko haram has not been defeated

1. No

2. Yes

3. No

4. Yes

5. Yes

6. No

thegoodjoehunt3:

This government is not dependent on Crude Oil revenues. If they were, they will not budget to diversify the economy.

But BRF admits that times are hard for the Government due to the low oil prices and that prior governments had squander the oil wealth and reserves available at that time. And the Government is battling to meet its commitments.

Implicitly the Government counted on oil revenues. besides 70percent of revenue is from oil

thegoodjoehunt3:

Please, Fashola aced that side. You want a three point strategic plan on such a short interview.

Fashola made points that we can easily verify. The major local governments under Boko Haram are no more. Places deserted are now beaming with people. Market places have opened.

As for those stranded, Fashola explained that first you secure them by establishing law and order. Those suffering are a result of years under captivity. With law and order established, their situation wil improve with time.

As for the economic reliance on Crude Oil, Fashola pointed out that, it has been a year. We are just funding a budget to diversify the economy. The budget shows we are no more depending on Solely Crude. That is why we are investing in a diversified economy.

Has Boko Haram being defeated? yes or no. The actual answer is no. Even the fact that they are retreating as a group shows they are not defeated.

thegoodjoehunt3:

Please, Fashola aced that side. You want a three point strategic plan on such a short interview.

Fashola made points that we can easily verify. The major local governments under Boko Haram are no more. Places deserted are now beaming with people. Market places have opened.

As for those stranded, Fashola explained that first you secure them by establishing law and order. Those suffering are a result of years under captivity. With law and order established, their situation wil improve with time.

As for the economic reliance on Crude Oil, Fashola pointed out that, it has been a year. We are just funding a budget to diversify the economy. The budget shows we are no more depending on Solely Crude. That is why we are investing in a diversified economy.

Is the Nigerian government dependent largely on oil revenues? Every Nigerian knows the answer is yes. But there is a work in progress on diversifying the economy which isn't in fruition yet. Therefore we still depend largely on oil revenues which is the basis of any economic plan in Nigeria. BRF admits that and yet contradicts himself when he tries to explain the economic hardships the country was facing due to the slump in oil prices when BRF had disputed the figures and lied we don't rely excessively on oil revenues right now.

thegoodjoehunt3:


There is delay in Legal Process. It does not mean the legal process is not working or is failing. Just as there is delay in England, which the Journalist accepted.

Fashola pointed that "You can not Break the law to enforce it."

Legal processes takes time, the delay is not a failure. The NSA facing charges shows the process is working and those who felt they were above the law are now dancing to the tunes of Law and order.

How to proffering a charge on an accused an improvement in the legal process?! that's just the first step

thegoodjoehunt3:


The Originating question was about DELAY by the Judiciary to bringing corrupt former government officials to face Justice.

Fashola explained that it is a process that is working. The delay is a challenge faced every where in the world and not Nigeria alone.

Fashola explained that in this government those who felt they were above the law are now facing charges.

Then answered the question of how someone who felt he was above the law was now facing charges. What better example than the National Security Adviser.

That was a well answered question. How can that reply be poor?

I disagree.

If BRF was admitting there was delay, and was justifying delays because every other country over Nigeria in the Corruption Index experiences delay in their judicial process, how does charging the National Security Adviser address the delay complained about by the President?

thegoodjoehunt3:
Journalist: Can you name someone who thought he was above the law who has charges brought to him?

Fashola: Former Security Chief.


Wicked.

The originating question was whether the Judiciary was doing it's job despite a comment by the President that it wasn't.

The job in this context is convicting and jailing corrupt officials. And if you measured BRF performance against this, you would admit it's poor

thegoodjoehunt3:
There is a moral issue. A very strong moral issue.

If I remember my criminal law, it is much an offence to receive stolen goods as to actually steal it...Hon. Fashola

Slam Dunk.

But has the country prosecuted the suspects? Isn't it after a conviction that the stolen goods can be identified as stolen goods