sweatlana:

No region in Nigeria is devoid of natural resources. The Northerns are just lazy and want to continue to depend on ND resources.
Besides even if the region has no resources, let them do Whar the Japanese do!
There are a lot of countries without oil which do very well.

At the underbelly of your proposal is a tribalism agenda.

sweatlana:


Twist it any how you like. The fact remains. There is no nexus between the masses and the center. We need to restructure this damn country in a way that each region manages it's self with its resources. Only tax payable to the center.
That is true federalism.
Whether u like it or not its coming anyway.
We are a failed nation as it is. We can't continue like this.

Your system would be dependent on a natural resource within each and every region. But what if no region has natural resources as profitable as oil? Wouldnt it be worse than we have right now. If a region is unable to earn enough to pay its police and maintain law and order then other regions would be stressed by migrations and the insecurity suffered by that region.

Oil is taxed at 80 per cent whereas there is no commodity that can survive such a high rate in Nigeria. So basically a natural resource dependent region wouldn't find it lucrative

sweatlana:

It will though there is corruption, what is the nexus between the masses and the central govt?

We have better access to the state and local govts.
Nigeria as it is is a failed state. We can't continue to do something that is simply not working.

I don't understand your logic. You believe the masses are not directly connected to the central government and you want the regional government to be the intermediate link between the masses and the central govt. Yet you mention both the states and local govts which already play that role. Meaning the regional govt would as well fail as the state and local govts.

sweatlana:
If only health care was a right all citizens have like every sane country.

Nigerian needs regional govt.

I don't see how a regional government would respond better to healthcare

Ymodulus:
This is why I am clamouring we enshrine euthanasia into the Constitution.

People of this kind should be killed and not meant to suffer. As Nigerians are wicked and show no love for such.

Who gets to decide who deserves to live? Would the supposed victims be given a say in their own destiny?

Zico5:
Getting property in Nigeria? No my brother. She is not entitled to anything. Even the hubby can chase her out without taking a pin. There is no law biding infidelity in Nigeria. Tell your friend to relax. She can hire SAN that's her headache.

Not where she is married under the Marriage Act and the properties were acquired during the currency of the marriage.

gentlegenius:

Research shows that girls nowadays start dating from the age of 15-16. So I think 16 is the proper age for them to start dating but they should be guided because teenagers are so prone to mistakes. So instead of telling them not to date when you know they'll still hide and do it, simply advice them to date the right person and date wisely. Also, guide and watch them closely while they are dating.
This is what I'll do even to my daughter and younger sister.

*faints*

gentlegenius:

If you follow this discussion very well, you will find out that there is no consensus opinion here. Some are thinking like you while some are encouraging me to continue my relationship. Check this thread carefully and you'll see a guy of 29 who is dating a girl of 17 and they are getting married early next year. If you call my actions perverse, what will you call this guy? At least I am only dating her for now and will only marry her when she turns 19 or 20. Even if I am not dating her now, another guy will surely be dating her.

What is the minimum age for dating a child in your humble view? 10? 14? 16? Because lots of people dont mind 10 year olds

xxxtedyxxx:


it will work for everyone.

All girls are the same, in the sense that, they feel attraction the same way.

Biodun's delivery might not be accurate, but the basic foundational principles and techniques remains the same worldwide.

Your first error is too assume all women have the exact same psyche and to discount the influence of culture religion and personality.

gentlegenius:

Why not define CHILD ABUSE on your own since you don't subscribe to my definition and explanations above.
When did it becomes an abuse to love and take care of a teenage girl? When did it becomes an abuse to guide and control a teenage girl? Didn't your father or senior brother perform these roles in your life when you were a teenager? Was that an abuse? Pls be more reasonable when you respond to sensitive issues.

The consensus here is that your acts are perverse. Not because of the age difference but because you are depriving a child of her innocence and identifying her through lens of sexual beauty.

gentlegenius:

Your comment is borne out of stark ignorance. Sometimes, it is better to be silent on sensitive issues than to make unreasonable comments.
Haven't you seen couples with more than 13 years age difference being happily married? I explained in my previous comments that I am not just dating this girl but I am grooming her to be a good wife material so that I can marry her in future. Don't you get it? How dare you tell me to leave her and date my mate? As a man, will you marry a lady that is your age mate? Don't you know women gets old faster than men? What if I leave her and she ends up marrying someone older than me?

Does a woman's age multiply or she biologically degrades quicker than a man? All these hapless myths

gentlegenius:

Let me start by asking you this: At what age did you have your first boyfriend and where is he now? Is he still in love with you? Pls be sincere with your answer.
Now let me educate you about child abuse because it's obvious you know nothing about it. Child abuse means cruel treatment of children with violence or sexual activity especially by adults.
Let me also tell you the kind of relationship I'm having with my 17 year old girl before you say what you don't know... I am dating her of course, but I have never engaged in any violence or sexual activity with her so tell me how I am abusing her. I have not corrupted her with love or anything else instead, my presence in her life has prevented other randy guys from corrupting her. I am helping her to grow into a good and virtuous woman. I am preparing her to be a good wife material and will marry her once she comes of age. But how could you think my involvement with her at this age might stop her from pursuing her career, and by the way, is it every woman that want to be a career woman?
If you think the age difference is wrong, do you know how she looks now and how she'll look in the next three years? People have reasons for doing what they do so Pls don't always jump into issues you know nothing about.

A wolf says he is helping herd the lambs into the barn.

Kiakia:
Power generation and distribution should be in the concurrent legislative list and not be a monopoly of the federal government which has failed in this regard anyways.

That would not make sense because the national grid would require centralised control and regulation. The Federal government is best positioned to play that role.

freshest4live:

Federal Government should encourage other states to build their plants too. It's better than this idea of national grid except we have enough.

The most economical way of distributing power is through a national grid to avoid waste.

soflygerian:
The effect of the ''centre hold everything'' ... A 750MW standby facility is lieing waste here in Rivers.. And some people will not want to devolve power to states...

Power generation is not really the problem although sourcing gas is a problem. There are hundreds of investors willing to dive into the power sector. The major disaster is distribution. The transmission lines are expensive and decaying. Someone has to fix them.

Blue3k:
Lagos always progressive. Anyway I don't get The Federal Government obsession with strangling states in power sector. The best thing about this policy is its private sector driven. Hope other states that can should follow suit. There are plenty Of ND states like Akwa Ibom supplies and cash to power themselves. 

1. The power sector is already private driven. Both the GENCOs and DISCOs are private except for the transmission assets.

2. The Federal government's role is largely regulatory. It creates the predictable legal framework which would allow more private investors to pour into the sector.

3. State govt can create private SPVs and be involved with the power industry nothing stops them.

These men haven't been convicted yet. It's likely that it was a usual police round up. Could the Nigeria Police have been so surgical to arrested every single person in the very act of sex?

It is unlikely.

foxyk:
A top surgeon earns less in a year than what Neymar will get in a week! at PSG. Ridiculous! It's not a sport now: it's a corrupt, ruthless business, devoid of all integrity and humanity.

Neymar has spent his youth perfecting his skills with the ball and maintain a top notch physical condition but in the mean time he has not acquired any other skill or ability that would enable him earn a likelihood for the rest of his life. Therefore he ought to compensated for the opportunity cost for other skills and further education.

A surgeon on the other hand can sustain himself irrespective of his physical conditioning for over 40 years down the line.

NeeKlaus:

Okay. This is how it will be. PSG intends giving him the Number 10 shirt. Now, imagine such an iconic number on a shirt with "Neymar JR" emblazoned on it, with all the fuss made up in his transfer saga and him being the current World's Most Expensive Player. There would surely be a mad struggle for that shirt.

Shirt sales will hit the roof just like what happened when Man United bought Pogba and Ibrahimovic. (They got Pogba's fee back the same day they unveiled him).

Also, I read somewhere that the PSG president intends making Neymar a Qatar Ambassador ahead of the 2022 World Cup. With such a face as popular as that, they will generate a lot of revenue through sponsorships and image rights.

Bro, I tell you, PSG will get the money back. Just watch and see. Football is a mad business now.

1. Shirt sales do not recoup the transfer fee made on a player. Why? Because the clubs have no control over the purchase or sale of the shirts. They licence Adidas or Nike or any other merchandise company to sell shirts in the club's name. The merchandise deal worth a fixed amount over a long stretch of years. So the purchase of Neymar does not influence the money PSG gets from its licenced merchandise sponsor.

See these sites

http://mobile.ghanasoccernet.com/how-a-transfer-really-works-agents-tapping-up-whatsapp-and-why-clubs-cant-recoup-fees-with-shirt-sales

http://mobile.ghanasoccernet.com/how-a-transfer-really-works-agents-tapping-up-whatsapp-and-why-clubs-cant-recoup-fees-with-shirt-sales

2. If the president of PSG wants Neymar to be the face of the Qatar world cup then that is a different kettle of fish because Neymar's present contract is with PSG not the president or the Qatari world cup committee. More money will be shelled out to persuade Neymar to be their ambassador.

So at the end of the day the deal would have to be financed through the regular channels of revenue. PSG is not number one or among the top 10 top revenue generating clubs. Man Utd the present number one above Real Madrid and Barcelona made 515.3 million pounds. PSG made 521 million euros in revenue with a lesser operating income.

In effect Neymar is actually sponsored on debt that could burden the club for years.

https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/pages/sports-business-group/articles/deloitte-football-money-league.html

https://www.forbes.com/teams/paris-saint-germain/

NeeKlaus:
PSG will get it back in due time. Shirt sales, image rights, advertising campaign. It seems to me they are actually the better off party in this transaction.

How? Break it down and let's see.

KingEbukasBlog:


One of the many reasons .




Its what it is supposed to be . But there are religions which have entities that have no control over anything and they are gods or do have control over something and they are not gods. Example

In Collyridianism, Mary is worshiped as a goddess simply because she is the mother of Christ; in Confuscianism, ancestral spirits control the fortune of the descendents but they are not deified .

That's why I said God is just a title given to any entity for different reasons , there are no generally accepted reasons



Judges , Kings, rulers who have power over the people are seen as gods in the bible . And don't forget, an object of worship or veneration isn't necessarily a god .

In the Juche , the Supreme Leader of North Korea is worshiped and venerated. In Catholicism, Mary is worshiped and venerated. Popular lesbian seductress Natalie Barney worships her targets as a way of seducing them but she does not deify them.

To an extent you seem to concede to Ayo's new inquiry that Godhood is an endowment which can be gained and lost. Also entities can be Gods based on their relative degree of control

Is there any evidence tying the man to the murders aside from a confession?

The presence of effigies and idols is not evidence in itself of a crime

It will affect professions like medicine, IT, law and engineering because those fields will crowded out by migrations from the jobs killed by machines

YesNoMaybe:
After reading through the whole rebuttal, one wonders; why can't the youth stage a revolution and end all these tyrannical exhibitions of injustice by the self acclaimed elders once and for all. This is how the militancy started. This is how IPOB started.....

Because the youth will follow our example when we become elders

TonySpike:
The main argument of my contribution is this: does it make sense to electrify the entire country at once? No, it makes no sense. The transmission infrastructures are already too massive to secure and manage. Hence, power instabilities and blackouts are inevitable. I have not advocated for the total abandonment our national grid, I believe more emphasis should be laid on development of regional power stations. Theoretically speaking, there is no need to build new transmission reticulations for regional purposes as they already exist. These reticulations only need to be strengthened to improve power stability in these regions. For this reason, microgrids might suffice. In conclusion, I believe regional power stability should be the priority for the government, not national power stability.

The regional solution might be economically tenable where a particular region is preferentially targeted over others. Which in turn affects the economic development either positively or negatively of those areas without the say of those people residing there.

Also this solution hardly has a long term lifespan. Wouldn't it be obsolete in the next thirty years

@tonyspike and @bellyjean

I forgot to add that the power stations have to either be sited either close to their source or to the grid. Considering the landspan of the country and that gas is derived from Niger Delta it is either all the power stations are in the Niger Delta or they have pipelines connecting their power sites in Lagos and other parts of the country. This vulnerability is two fold. Either the pipelines would be vulnerable to vandalization or the transmission grids would be stretched to meet the plants were they are. Invariably more costs. The transmissions lines can be sabotaged as well.

TonySpike:


Nice contribution from you! You appear to have an unusual grasp of the current dilemma in the power sector. Could you be an insider? I have said it on this forum that microgridding is the only way to resolve the crisis in the power sector. There is absolutely no sense in trying to electrify the entire country at once. It will never work because centralised macrogrid structure in Nigeria is very susceptible to mismanagement and inefficiency, as we currently witness. As an engineer, I believe it is easier to build independent power generating nodes on a regional scale initially. When we are certain that we have enough power for each region, we can then feed the national transmission lines. This is one of the reasons I am advocating for regionalism. Each part of Nigeria have different electricity needs which should firstly be tackled autonomously. Once achieved, the national grid can be incorporated for future redundancies. My arguments stem from the fact that Lagos alone will need nothing less than 3,000 MW to ensure stable power supply. Ironically, should Lagos wait for the national grid to attain such level? How much longer should Lagos wait: 3 years? 5 years? It is very uncertain at this point because of sabotage and mismanagement at the national level!

What you are saying and bellyjean is saying are two different ideas.

Bellyjean thinks an extra smaller and manageable grid should formed solely for industrial purposes and to on turn boost the economy. The national grid will remain relevant for domestic consumption.

You on the other hand, want a full regionalization of the grid and total abandonment of national grid.

My question to you mainly attacks the thoughtfulness of regional grids. First of all none exists but the national grid hence the construction of new transmission infrastructure within every region to transfer obviously power from the power stations within that region. That will cost money to the private companies undertaking that job. It is either a company acts in trust for those companies to build and manage the new regional grid or every power generating company would its own micro grid. The total cost of erecting all that infrastructure would be gigantic. And the total cost would outweigh the cost of repairing the national grid.

Except you guys have only Lagos State in mind. Hence eliminating the huge cost of laying micro grid across the country.

It is in this light that the national grid appears most economical with a lesser environmental impact otherwise the country would be littered with "i better pass your power station."

Please mention countries and other precedents that use micro grids with great efficiency

shervydman:


why do people just rush to comment without understanding simple stuffs? I didn't say Nigeria should abandon the dam but she should stop depending on it.

Then you were speaking off point. Because there was no view that Kainji should be the sole source of power. The which sheriff raised was whether we should stop selling power to those who can render Kainji worthless if they have none.

ElSherriff:
Fundamentally, we are not on the same page yet. You have chosen to continue supporting sale of generated electricity for 'guarantee' that the natural flow of the Niger wont be tampered with. I insist, it is unwise of any Government Minister, Fashola inclusive to continue the practice since we barely have enough to consume as you are aware of. I have done a quick check to point to you that indeed it is possible to artificially create dams which is practicable in Nigeria. Guess what, it was the first website I viewed when I checked for sustainable artificial dams globally. Your guess is as good as mine, should I decide to put in a week.
I need not glorify you with a plan for the Nigeria power situation and because you are as gullible as you are, you believe it is a two year plan. Since 1968 we have been on this agreement. That's long enough for a holistic plan to have been developed and implemented. The Swiss and Chinese are not super humans, they only plan long term and execute. They do not justify mediocrity.
Since you are not 5, the minister is not 5, take your adulthood pettiness + 2500MW perennial generation of power and go to bed with it.
I am not tied with you are your minister.
Like I said to someone else, Kainji Dam cost less than 300m USD in the 60s to build. to date, more than a billion has been returned from switzerland as Abacha loot. Minister Fashola has failed and yet we massage their bluntness as though we are cursed geographically? Take the countries East of Nigeria without the Niger River that have better supply into consideration, then you'd see where your problems lie.
Again, I am working my way out of Nigeria. You should too, lest you kids will continue this argument with their cousins many many years from today and will still find a right justification for it.

What was I expecting from a Lawyer as Power Minister? Whatever Bullcrap he is given, he adds a little and peddles to y'all.

Solomon Wisely.

Do you want more dams and power plants less of Kainji or what?

I don't get what you are saying.

bellyjean:
i can see that the populace is becoming enlightened and educated by the day. A lot of things is wrong with the structure of this nation. Mind you, many of these structures, policies were good at the point of inception, but they were only good for those times. What went wrong? Why did we go back to sleep after we built many of these structures and infrastructures (whether tangible or intangible) in the pre and post independence era?

Nigeria, truly has got no think-tanks.

If we had futuristic leaders at the helm of affairs in the time past, they would have been able to project and set foundations for constant upgrade and improvement s in the policies they made and in the infrastructures they built. We should take a cue from china.

To the subject of this thread; at the time when those treaties/agreements or whatever was signed with these countries, Nigeria needed the Kanji Dam so strongly. But as static as we were (are), we didnt make provision for any default. We should realise that the promise that parties involved would uphold their own part of the bargain is a flimsy excuse for Nigeria. We claimed we are the giant of Africa, we wanted to be the industrial hub of Africa, our population as at 1980's was still the highest in africa, even at that time. So relying on power production from kanji and a few energy plants even at that time is an aberration and a big slap to the so called think-tanks at that time.

To add more fuel to the ravaging fire was the population explosion that Nigeria experienced. It will interest us to know that Nigeria's population was only 45.1 million in 1960 and given the country's level of energy demand and industrial development, the power capacity was just enough and we could call our dear country the "giant of Africa". But seriously, we dont expect the same 22 cm diameter pot that cooked 4 cups of rice for a family of 4 to still cook the same quantity for a family of 23. You have to get a bigger pot and increase the quantity of the rice.


There is no need going to deep into the history of our carelessness and foolishness as a nation.

What is the way forward?

The reality of things in the power sector has fully dawned on the Honorable Minister but I am disappointed in him because he has been given to accept that reality, he is now singing the same bullshit narrative and excuse that those bastards (yorubas will call them alainikanshe l.e those that have no good will for this country) sang to us.

We know the situation of things, but we want a leader who will be disruptive; a leader who will challenge the status quo; a leader who will come up with innovative and sustainable ideas and implement them.

The energy sector in Nigeria as we know it is an arena filled with all kinds of inefficiencies, corrupt people, saboteurs and many agents from the pits of hell.

First and foremost is the aberration called National Grid. At this point, we should realize that whatever structure that worked for country A might not work for country B, even if country B will adopt country A's strategy, it must consider the factors and conditions that are peculiar to her. So the need for a modification. Nigeria's generation capacity is around 12000MW. Transmission capacity is around 5500MW and the distribution capacity is only around 4400MW. Mind you, these figures hold for an idealized system working at 100% capacity. Of course generation is hovering around 4000Mw and eventually, what gets to the consumers (185.99 million nigerians) via DISCOs is around 2050MW. All these are attributed to the miserable inefficiencies associated with the kind of National Grid we have in Nigeria.

There have been new power plants installed, commissioned and some are being built as of today. But the reality is that no one is talking about revamping the already dead transmission lines that runs several kilometers around the country. It is an oversight; a deliberate omission So even if our generation capacity goes to 20000MW today, only 2050MW will still get to the consumers. Shall we rerun new set of electricity transmission cables all over Nigeria again? (Now you know what the $16billion Obasanjo's administration misappropriated could have done to the power sector) Humour me

Clearly, National grid cannot accelerate the needed growth we want.

So let us revisit whatever constitution or policy that set the framework of the power and energy sector in Nigeria.

I would propose that while we include more energy sources into our energy mix, we should at once focus more on decentralizing power (both energy power and political power ). The preachers of renewable energy should please read up on the economics of renewable energy. It would be great to achieve what Denmark, Germany, Switzerland have achieved in the area of renewable energies, but i will ask you to look at these countries and see what is common to them all; they are developed countries and that is why renewable energy can thrive. To a very large extent, generating power via renewable is cheaper than via fossil fuel. They were able to overcome the challenge of renewables' intermittent supply.
But this wont be obtainable in third world and developing countries like Nigeria, from cost perspective. A good scenario is the Massive solar PV/Solar Concentrator project in Morocco. The project was an initiative of the govt of Morocco and the European Union, but the European union backed out at the execution stage because of project's sustainability and viability even though morocco has impressive solar irradiation. Morocco went on with it and the first stage has been completed.
Let us develop more coal plants, ensure that we have uninterrupted supply of gas to our gas stations etc. But what i propose today is to have stand alone power plants. I am 100% percent sure that investors will troop in if it is no longer a must to supply to the National grid.

Investors will focus its resources on a particular area/municipality/town/state and provide uninterrupted supply. You will see how rapid the development will be. For Example, if Ajaokuta's 22MW plant focuses on Ajaokuta and its environment, industries around that region will be guaranteed of power, more industries would likely be set up there; which in turn gives the powerplant the flexibility to scale up; to expand in order to meet the increasing demands. Redemption camp with its 10MW diesel and gas turbines is a taste of what all nigerians should be enjoying. So is Winners Canaan land.

But is our Honorable Minister ready to do the needful?

If you want to take your passion for energy to the next level, you want your voice to be heard, send a Private Message

These are common truths which need not be declared. No one needs to declare the rise of dawn or the fall of dusk. The real question is how long can the power question be solved? Can it be done in 4 years or 10 years or 20 years. A longer timeline would be required for infrastructural deficits which is what the power industry's main problem.

How efficient is a decentralized system?

shervydman:

since u really want my contribution......i'll give it to u.

mediocrity runs in ur vein instead of blood. Nigeria; a country of 180m people needs at least 100000mw!!! of electricity for proper industrialization and house-hold supply, now, we're generating only 4000mw and u think all is well?

why should we give other countries what we don't have and then suffer for it than the "other" countries we give? oh, lest I forget, u said it with that ass of a thing u call mouth or rather type it with that match-stick u call fingers that we give them only 1% of it so that they won't dam the river and yet receive billions from them. just listen to urself out of shame!!

we need to generate MORE POWER and stop depending on those outdated dams. very soon, the mambilla dam will be complete alongside tiga and co. which is a welcome development but we fvcking need more than that before we can even boast of 18hrs daily electricity supply at every grid.

u know nada about simple things as u've shown here and I hope heavens help u to understand this since no mortal body can do that.

When should Nigeria abandon the outdated dam, right now or later in the future when there are other means of electricity?

We all on Nairaland know that Nigeria's demands outstrip her supply yet reality shows that Kainji is damn important. And it does not make sense to remove substantial MWs Kainji produces

ElSherriff:
Why the hell do you all think its a very very smart idea to sell electricity to these countries as a 'guarantee'? It is way cheaper for them to buy generated electricity than building their dams, so we already have an upper hand. It is already a stress on our National output since we never even have enough to sustain 18 hours nonstop.

Kainji Dam was completed in the 60s with capacity to provide less than 1500mw of electricity, what efforts have we made since then to improve our power generation capacity? for the countries in the world that have stable electricity without the 'pressure' of river Niger how exactly have they done it?

And yes, do not let no one fool you. There are artificial technologies. google pumped water storage and what the swiss have done. Also, try and study the artificial dams of the world and see what Nigeria can do once and for all. Now Kainji Dam was built with less than 300m USD, Switzerland has returned close to a billion USD of stolen funds to Nigeria.

I wont even bother going into details of exactly how Nigeria can begin to utilize whatever she has of the Niger River when Lords Benin and Niger decide to 'cut off' their sections of the Niger River. You know why? Cos Nigerians are gullible, they have accepted mediocrity and can kill to justify it.

The next time you wanna quote me, show so decorum.

https://qz.com/706832/new-turbines-have-upgraded-a-hydroelectric-dam-in-the-swiss-alps-to-a-nuke-sized-battery/

These are more serious countries. If you are ready to swallow poo and not daring, I am not.

The idea is that Nigeria as well as those countries desire electricity for industrialization. So electricity is a precondition for greater development. Now with that in mind, why would everyone settle for less. Besides the electricity is not exported in containers stacked at the port. So those countries need a relatively close source either from their immediate neighbors or create a long-lasting solution like a dam.

Now if you think Kainiji Dam has outlived its usefulness then you wouldn't mind the river dammed but if you lose the 1000MW Kainiji offers Nigeria then you would have more darkness in Nigeria.

Thankfully you are not the minister