₦airaland Forum

Ranchhoddas:
The 'misogyny' therein does not render it less truthful.

Can you prove or substantiate your claim that women are cowards?

winner01:
No. I'm saying that Christianity teaches value while Science explores nature.

Plus, you sound as if the scientific community is exclusively for atheists.

But you would agree with me that Christianity is not limited to value creation. That it says a lot about nature and the truths of human existence ?

winner01:
But this is not true. The available evidence points strongly to creation. Christianity is not science although christians have had major impacts on science.

Science is a way of observing and discovering the realities of Nature. Christianity is the internalization of more permanent values.
Atheist need not cling to science in a bid to combat religion. Both are different fields. You may want to read more books on the Christian history and effects on democracy and world peace and stability.

So you mean to say that Christianity expresses true science while the scientific community are dabbling with false theories?

Winifred468:
You mean it?
You're really insinuating that we don't have to live in fear to please God?
Now let's examine this and reason together

"The LORD of Hosts, Him you shall hallow; let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread" Isaiah 8:13
While I'm not disputing the fact that Love is an attribute of God, I must also iron this out that there's always a balance in what God does.
Though He is merciful and is our help in difficult situations yet you must come to the understanding that He is a consuming fire.
When you operate with the fear of God, it is not fear in the gruesome sense but the fear that pushes you to sail (not minding the weatherman's report) as soon as God's instructions are clear.

Faith comes by hearing, the Fear of God comes by knowing.

The 3 Hebrew boys, Shadrah, Meshach and Abed-Nego knew God and feared Him, he delivered them from the fiery furnace which burnt even the guards that threw them in there.
When the King asked them who would deliver them from the furnace, they answered him that he doesn't need to know who will. Daniel 3:16.

ISAIAH 51:12-16

What makes you think that God would swoop in like an eagle to protect the righteous?!

Idrismusty97:
It take great boldness and courage to be irreligious. Not many females has that kind of courage, Nigerian females especially. Besides the religions and culture in Nigeria are extremely misogynistic...Maybe that to some aspect also play a role.

Misogynistic comment tagging women as cowards

winner01:
They overwhelmingly accepted the theories of spintaneous generation, expanding earth, static universe, cold fusion etc too.

They all turned out to be wrong.

You could be correct that they are wrong. But acknowledge the conflict between this scientific community and Christianity.

Good

Yet why would you presume a Being must be a precursor of everything especially when you do not have a prior experience or precedent that Beings are pre existent?

NOTE this is a complex question and please answer diligently.

KingEbukasBlog:
A Supreme Being is the ultimate precursor of everything that exists . You mean what has he done? He made everything that exists .

Including time?

GeneralTee:
And what's your response except for random chaos. If that was the case, you're supposed to have woken up this morning with an arm left on the bed. Or not wake up at all.

Wouldn't this a diversion from the thread? You ought to give the thread a chance.

KingEbukasBlog:
Seriously ?

A life with no purpose ? No wonder Atheists achieved so little and have no moral compass since man was created . To them , life is meaningless and there is no reason to achieve , or to love or be good . This mentality was the impetus also that led to the killing of millions of people just to achieve their atheistic aims .

No wonder you guys take so much time criticizing religious people - just to inveigle them into living sad empty life of anger and rancor against a non existent God .

And atheists said The belief in God holds you back !! While the cold hard truth which elude you atheists is that your belief God does not exist is what holds you back from achieving and progressing because to you life is meaningless .

Winner01 , atheism is indeed dangerous . To them , what's the point of doing good , of achieving , of helping the poor etc . Atheists can even kill with no scruples . Imagine a kid with such mentality - having no sense of purpose in life . Humanity is doomed with atheism

What is the purpose of your life? Being rich isn't a purpose you know

winner01:
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Pain wont lead you anywhere.
Moreover, if the universe is purposeless as atheists claim, why do all these matter to you?
Are you fighting that we embrace the African traditional religions or that we drop religion totally?
You must make your choice.

Also, would you rather Christianity and Islam took back its education, enlightenment and exposure in exchange for our beloved religious rituals such as the killing of twins.

One thing is for sure, Africa has never known atheism. You should tell us what you really want us to do, or rather preach it.

What if the Truth was that the Universe was purposeless?

TheSixthSense:
God and christianity appeals to logic. The gospel of Jesus Christ appeals to common sense and logic.

I think for Christianity to be true, it must appeal to common sense, logic and intuitive wisdom

SUPOL:
Ofcos

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Then a police man can not contrary to that section conduct a valid stop and search without an express approval from an ASP!

SUPOL:
"in d same manner as he would be authorized to do if he has a search warrant" hope u saw that.

But subject to a superior officer's approval. That superior officer is ASP level.

histemple:
The order by the IGP to get a sworn affidavit in addition to a search warrant, was a swift reaction to a supreme court judgement where it was unanimously agreed by a vote of 9-0 judges.

That order was first given by IGP Arase and recently reiterated by IGP Idris.

It was held that phones are not the same as wallets and other devices, but an intrusion into suspect's right to privacy.

Although police may generally need to search a suspect's phone if there is a "probable cause".

There is no such law for a search under probable cause. A search must be conducted under a valid search warrant and in the presence of reputable members of society. There is a balance to maintained. ....

Besides there is no such thing as a 9-0 vote in the Supreme Court in Nigeria. Probably the U.S. has nine.

SUPOL:
theres always a reason for suspicion. It can be body language, appearance , movement, smell etc

Read section 28 of the Police Act on police search.

SUPOL:
Who told u that?
If a police officer has any reason to suspect u of any crime. He has d reason to search ur pockets, bags, phones and other belongings. Say wat u know please

What reason?

SUPOL:
theres always a reason for suspicion. It can be body language, appearance , movement, smell etc

The law tries to make a delicate balance between citizen's rights to be left alone and security concerns which safeguard the rights of the citizens. A dead citizen can hardly enjoy rights therefore the balance calls for reasonable suspicion.

It is not probable suspicion that could be right but suspicion led by tangible evidence.

Ordinarily a search warrant must be procured for a search but where time of the essence that process can be bridged but nonetheless the same standard a magistrate or judge uses to grant a warrant applies here.

A judge would not grant a search warrant because the supposed accused is sagging

SUPOL:
But a suspect

wouldn't it be paranoia to consider every Nigerian a suspect? And if it's paranoia then it can't be reasonable

SUPOL:
During d tour of his duty

The Nigerian is not presumed to be a criminal

SUPOL:
Who told u that?
If a police officer has any reason to suspect u of any crime. He has d reason to search ur pockets, bags, phones and other belongings. Say wat u know please

A routine search doesn't fall under reasonable suspicion.

Namdeenero:
Bro if they see you in a car with a laptop, you're finished, especially if you don't have the reciept of the laptop with you at that moment.. I bailed my laptop with 20k when some police officers stopped me on my way back from my computer lesson and they demanded for the reciept which I had lost.. Naija police are NOT our friends!!

A letter to the Commissioner of Police with the full details can go very far. Note that they have bosses too.

Goke7:
NLNG should be a no go area for now o, its better to sell off ajaokuta steel instead

Which is worthless

CrazyQuinn:
Theres no similarity

Despite the fact both are called love? Isn't it similar to a full cup of water and a half full cup of water?

CrazyQuinn:
No Gods love is unconditional while human's love is conditional.... Did you even read my explanation of love? because you're still asking the same questions

what's the similarity between unconditional love and conditional love

2dugged:
the same reason I suggested you speak for yourself earlier, and let matured men decide for themselves, that you only reply dms of ladies with faces like that of Genevieve doesn't mean all men are t like that, who you term unattractive may be attractive to another, case closed, have a nice day

i will rephrase: men want DMs from women they consider attractive.

AnonyNymous:
Yes, to an extent. And that's exactly what the criminal justice system does. . . people who steal, they're sent to prison. . . their freedom of movement is taken away, freedom of association is taken away, freedom of speech, and so on. . . murderers, in many places get the death penalty. . . so you see what I mean

But they are not summarily executed which a right they enjoy

CrazyQuinn:
I have ....for example you have to have the qualities I desire in order for me to love you, that's conditional

What do you enjoy with love?

Does God love you for the qualities you have?

AnonyNymous:
First off nice topic
Well. . . animals can't recognise human rights. I feel like anything that demands rights should also be capable of respecting the rights of others. Any living thing that can't do that shouldn't have 'rights'. I classify ISIS terrorists with animals. They are primarily concerned with what they want, with blatant disregard of all fundamental human rights. Therefore, if they are affecting me, if its within my power I have to stop them without any regard to what they might feel. Same thing with a snake trying to kill me. I cannot recognise its 'right to life' when its trying to kill me.
That said, animals such as dogs which pose no harm to me should be treated with respect. Why? Dogs are intelligent enough to recognise boundaries and therefore while they respect me, I should take proper care if them as well. Same with dolphins. Some dolphins even have higher IQs than humans. I read an amazing story of a dolphin that outsmarted her trainers.
As for using animals as food items, its just my role in the ecosystem.

But if your thoughts are adopted then criminals would have no rights

CrazyQuinn:
Love is conditional

Basically the substance of love is conditional but you have not explained that substance of love

2dugged:
Unattractive is a relative word, what I term attractive maybe termed by another as unattractive, and please don't mistake being attractive with being ugly, they are different things

Isn't ugly subjective as well?

CrazyQuinn:
conditional love:- this is the real type of love that can last a long time for humans, animals and other organisms. Unconditional love:- this is also the real type of love that's permanent and evalasting of God, only God can give this kind of love not humans or animals. If humans try to give unconditional love it's going to be temporary and it won't last because it's not in our nature only God's nature. One of the reasons it is so is because humans find it hard to forgive and we hold grudges while God can forgive unlimited times.

What is love