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Very simple! Apart from their previous track records which are quite similar, running the country itself is a big test. If anyone wants to be loved, the person should head a charity organization - but if the person wants to be hated, the person should join politics. Any leader that takes over power, will look like his predecessors - that's why I wrote that motion. I can break it down further If you ask me to. CorperKola: |
I will consider your week rebuttal a sign of loss on your part. Therefore, I turn the satellite of your imposed prayer towards you and your family and your generation down to eternity - so that you all may receive and so that it may manifest in your lives, Amen!! (Prayer sealed and put on permanent Auto-pilot). Didijiji: |
You describe Otti's Abia state as a USA. Abia state is supposed to look like UK, USA, Russia etc in just 4 years of his leadership - but you're picking his achievements in stages - but you find it difficult to pick Tinubu's achievements in stages as well. If you vote Otti as president of a country and not a state - it would be a fantastic coffee sipping moment to see what he'd achieve in stages - and I'd love to be looking at your face while sipping coffee. I pass the prayer back to you - say amen and move on. Didijiji: |
To help you draw your thinking cap line from point "x" to point "y" : Nigeria is a project - not a restaurant dish that is cooked in 45 minutes. A president assumes a role - to handle a specific timeline of that project and hands over to the next person. Chelsea had debt issues and had to asks for bail outs. I remember Abramovic giving loans to Chelsea when he was the owner. Even though Chelsea is just an analogy, it doesn't describe the Nigerian situation better but the India comparison you made is a suitable one. To address the India comparison, India has quite similar challenges as Nigeria's. India's development is higher than Nigeria's but there's a lot of poverty, poor education, poor infrastructure, racism and debt that's yet to be dealt with or totally fixed - and it not a today and tomorrow's job. My qualification doesn't necessarily define my thinking but rather, what I read or get exposure to does. I think big, I don't think small. Complainers think small. [quote author=reddingtonblack post=139350457][/quote] |
Absolutely not - if my son's result is present day Nigeria, I won't poison nor stone him. I understand Nigeria's architecture, so I wouldn't attack any leader that's struggling. But for other Nigerians that don't understand Nigeria's architecture, they are most likely to poison or stone you if your result is present Nigeria. Didijiji: |
It's theater art. Not witchcraft. If story is true, he must have had the bees hidden in his clothing or had a conspirator plant the bees there in advance for a prison break. geoworldedu: |
If you are a President, you will look after yourself and Nigerians that voted you in - guaranteed. Tinubu has been functioning since he assumed office, so he needed not be pushed by Trump to function. There was already a track record of Tinubu's war on insecurity before Trump dreamed of Nigeria. Every leader in the world works - because you don't see them with a shovel doesn't mean they are not sweating for their countries. Didijiji: |
Please note: I don't watch football. If a new coach was able to make a bad Chelsea team win a match - it's a matter of size, technique and resources. Comparing an 11-man team with a civil-service of nearly a million civil servants and 200 million Nigerians with limited resources is a huge difference. Chelsea was not cash starved, Chelsea was not over populated with players - it just found the right technique to get it's existing engine to speed up. Tinubu is the ceo of the country who's been given the power to make decisions. He has the power to use his discretion, listen to the people and "not" listen to the people when necessary. Nigerians are not always fantastic advisers. [quote author=reddingtonblack post=139348869][/quote] |
Well that will be bad if such happens. That will destroy years of legacy building. I don't think Tinubu worked so hard for a legacy only to look forward to destroying it with his own hands. When people like politicians get to a certain age, they look beyond money or title - they look at the big picture they will create for their grandchildren. Didijiji: |
Very simple - Because he applied to a good structure (APC) under Tinubu's stewardship. Now every party founder wants to use the same APC coalition formula with a different structure and stewardship. erad: |
From experience living in Nigeria, they are most likely going to lead like Tinubu. They are not running for a presidential seat in Ghana or South Africa that have fairly good engines - they are running for a presidential seat in a country with a bad engine. That's the perspective I'm looking at it from. Frankly, Tinubu's first term shows he's got a listening ear. Your prediction of a worse 2nd term under Tinubu is not caste in stones - no one has the power to predict such accurately. Didijiji: |
Exactly, your points are affirming. Peter Obi probably needs to attend school of politics. He should seek a mentor. aswani: |
He was a running mate to Atiku and they lost still. Even in 2023, they would have still lost. erad: |
All political calculations will feel scary - but real world play (elections) always show the answers. Peter Obi's calculated move will most likely create fear and suspense than powerful votes. Ekaka14: |
The idea of Goodluck Jonathan wouldn't have come up if the idol (Peter Obi) have been politically stable - maybe. We hear the youth (not elders and youth), are clamoring for a Jonathan to be the new idol to end hunger in Nigeria. It's quite interesting to hear these things and it reaffirms the words of a certain Nigerian politician who says - "Nigerians don't appreciate their leaders until they leave office". The case of Nigerians isn't dementia, but a "desperate lack of choice". It will not be forgotten that this supposed new idol was "kicked out" by the desperado Nigerians - but time has flown by - they want him back. What about Peter Obi? Isn't he good enough? Or is this a celebrity takes two? In my opinion, having the candidacy of Jonathan and Obi doesn't guarantee a political win both together and respectively - but it's a welcome idea. The wishes of Nigerians that is fuelled by hunger should also be fuelled by "reason" - let's look at the score card of Jonathan - it's almost no different from Tinubu's. It's basically a recycle of what you most likely don't like. The case of Obi is very much similar to the score card of Jonathan and Tinubu's. One should keep remembering that the "person that will deliver Nigeria has not been born". No sing-praising of certain leaders or potential leaders will guarantee Nigeria's deliverance. Nigerians rather should be more focused and disciplined - Nigerians should see beyond the celebration of a leader and look inwards - see the engine he carries and celebrate result of that very engine. If you ask me - Jonathan or Obi, I'd say "neither" for deliverance of Nigeria but "maybe" for a healthy competition against Tinubu. ### |
Politics is a game, a dirty game and even though regulated by laws, political players still get fair chances to play dirty. Defecting from one party to the next is strategic and legal as long as it doesn't go against the terms and conditions. The question asked is: why should politicians cross-carpet - the reasons could be alignment or misalignment with partys agenda or typical misunderstanding with partys leadership. A key thing every politician must do before joining a new political party is to do research on the party. This is often neglected due to deadline pressure and impatient political ambition. Some politicians do research but, streamline it to the metrics of the party rather than the ideals. In Peter Obi's case, his defections have been clumsy than strategic. Atiku Abubakar defected from PDP to APC in his mid-years of pursuit - Atiku then returned to PDP in another political season and to ADC in the current political season - his moves predict instability in political parties as a primary cause. For Peter Obi, his move from APGA in one political season to PDP in another political season to Labour Party in another political season to ADC in the current political season to NDC in the same current political season predicts a personal misalignment with political parties. This isn't to say Atiku and other politicians defecting in recent times should be defended while Peter Obi judged - what must be clarified is the intentionality of politicians. It's like asking: are you leaving Nigeria because you're fed up and want a better life for yourself only, or are you staying because you want to manage and fix Nigeria for yourself and others? The resilience of Peter Obi is respected. He is showing persistence but not strength. Although, I admire the fact he (Peter Obi) probably believes in one thing: - "If one bus stops, take the next bus and if that one stops, take the next one again". In a world of "survival of the fittest", it's expected to keep fighting for survival - but no matter the political party you run to, you will still meet the same challenge there. It's not how many times you "run" or "change" from a political system, but how much weight your body carries and how much heat you can resist. You can't be an admired political figure without weight or influence in your party. If you can't control internal crisis within your party, then you're positioned as a weak leader. A weak leader runs from challenges quickly, a strong leader withstands the storm in his party till he finally decides to make a move. These are subtle signs hungry Nigerians fail to see in a weak leader being carried as a heavyweight. Every Nigerian have the right to freedom of movement. No politician should be in a party he doesn't like, but if he must move, he has to do it right. ### |
Trust me, the start and end of every drive into a public space will be calculated as "Visitors". Humans are lazy thinkers but to be polite "people of convenience". It's easier/more convenient to be informed by the headlines than the full body of the news - little wonder why misinformation spreads. America is not perfect either. In the case of Nigeria, the American authority reported killings of Christians in Nigeria and Nigeria debunked it and gave a better account of the killings. The American authority reported in recent times that Nigeria is not safe and had it's Embassy shutdown in Abuja. What America most likely had was surface news. Abuja is not safe too but not to the degree it was promoted at - Nigeria is relatively safe - but not to the degree America promoted it at. In continuation, it's not that Africa is a large continent-island full of trees and monkeys as believed some years ago - the fact is that Africa is characterized by forest and wildlife but not in entirety - there are skyscrapers, cinemas, shopping centers, modern houses and cars - but these are often hidden or overlapped by excess jungle internet images - so it becomes easier to approximate the entire land mass as jungle - so is the judgement of America on Nigeria's insecurity. You brought to my notice, capital misinformation created by AI on UK church attendance recently - and even the verified media as solid as the US Government, couldn't be immune to such misinformation. budaatum: |
God in my limited knowledge is a concept. The belief in God in my opinion probably came from writers hallucination - passed down generations with little or no opposition to becoming a "Verified Truth". Why it survived such a time machine of 1,000 years to this period we live in - is a research for another day. Enlightened UK have used science to separate facts from fiction to the point now that it's now a norm to use a Church as a store room or garage as that is more logical, reasonable and realistic than using same building to visual a being that can't be seen - to me, that's waste of space for such use and a deprivation of other important uses. Those Christians who condemn other Christians for not worshiping christ all because of a female Archbishop are brainwashed by the brainwashed. A Bible chapter or verse can have 1,000 meanings - there's never one solid Bible verse interpretation - it's always distorted by various human understanding. So quite clearly, the attackers are influenced by one man's understanding. Science is neutral and agreed on - "man and woman are equal" - law is neutral and agreed on - "man and woman are equal". Religion is not neutral - it's extreme and divided - so why should one continue to look at scattered puzzles when there's a solved puzzle elsewhere. Less you know, another Christian would interpret the role of a female Archbishop as a blessing - and the confusion continues. budaatum: |
The separation of religion from politics is so advised because the government is a physical system (physical realm) and religion whilst a study is - a realm of spirituality - therefore both unmatched realms shouldn't be together or else they will clash. I support the Campbell's stance - "we don't do God" - not because I hate the idea of a God but because you just shouldn't mix imagination with reality - if you want to increase revenue, do so by sending tax bills, not sending prayer points - that's "wishful thinking". Blair is being environmentally influenced. He is well traveled and this is a common thing - learning new habits like a new belief system. Badenock is a classic example of one of my earlier submission that - "people who live in the UK come from different cultural environments in the world" - so it's a foundational expectation. Henry VIII in my opinion was a politician. There wasn't a strict separation between religion and politics back then, so his decision was expected. Unlike now that we have the Vatican as a socio-spiritual-political city which is using the system of religion to run it's mini government. So, as England evolved, the concept of God began going into extinction to the point that you've just raised that people were taking advantage of that opportunity to kick God out of England. As a Christian, I've made quite a number of quests to the point that I feel like an anti-christ in Nigeria when I speak. What I tell people is: "learn about your world" - but they tell me "don't question God" - and I'll be like why shouldn't I question God if you claim Man was created in the Image of God? - so therefore, if we can question ourselves daily due to distrust, then we should question God - and not just God, but his vessels (Man-Prophets) for you claim we are like him... I go to Church in Nigeria like I'm going to a seminar or a conference - Nigerians go to Church for carnivals. I sit in Church for 3-4hours listening to theory and music - when I'm most interested in the theory. And maybe I probably get judged for being a Statue of Liberty throughout the worship and praise sessions - I dunno.. In my opinion once again, religion is a "system" and a study of it is "education" (which supports your point too). Theology is the study of that religious history, application in society etc. So people clearly don't know the difference between Religion, Theology and spirituality. Spirituality is what can't be studied but internally observed through belief. So I can be a sinner who studied Theology because I'm not mandated by my profession as a theologian to be a born again - but I'm paid and mandated to conduct research and help improve society with religious knowledge. So England is in the enlightenment period and that's why you need not have 70% Church Attendance to continue as a professional teacher or butcher. UK is now more logical than ever before. Life should learn to separate air from water. budaatum: |
We need her now - more than ever - to bring in more Obidients - what am I going to do with all the cans of Raid insecticide I bought? |
I have investigated your latest discovery on religiosity (Christianity) in the U.K and the information still so far, affirms my former points. Just to refresh our minds, the very first argument you raised in this thread was "People in the UK are "dropping" the Bibles" and my counter point was " No, some people in the UK are still reading the Bible". This further led to Church Attendance in the UK and you argued that "people in the UK don't attend churches" - you further argued Churches in the UK are used/converted to multipurpose facilities. I supported your claim that "people in the UK don't attend churches" - I further explained that the religiosity level in the UK cannot be compared with Africa (Nigeria, precisely) that is highly religious. I further stated that "people in the UK do not need to go to church to prove they're Christians as they might as well prove that at home by reading the Bible or watching Christian content on television or mobile devices." Whilst this isn't a competition as acknowledged earlier, this background-knowledge you've just read above, supports the new investigated facts I have presented below: The Comparison: Sales vs. Behavior: >>> Church Attendance: The retracted claim of 12% monthly attendance was corrected to a steady 4–5%. Gen Z Participation: Claims of a 16% surge among young adults were fake; engagement remains static. UK Bible Sales: A genuine 19% increase was recorded in 2025, the highest since 1998. SPCK Growth: Verified sales rose 134% since 2019, growing from 192,000 to 396,000 copies. <<< Verified Sources: Retraction of "Quiet Revival" Report Bible Society UK Official Statement (issued March 26, 2026) and YouGov CEO Stephan Shakespeare’s formal apology. Identification of AI/Fraudulent Bots YouGov Internal Review (March 2026), which identified "low-quality/unreliable" automated responses in the 2024 sampling 19% UK Bible Sales Growth (2025) NielsenIQ BookData, released ahead of the London Book Fair (March 2026). 134% Long-term Sales Increase SPCK (Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge) multi-year retail analysis (2019–2025). Retraction Coverage The Independent, Church Times, and Research Live (March 26–30, 2026). ... Conclusion: Despite the static Church Attendance in the UK, some people in the UK are still lifting the Bible which now clears the primary argument - "the Bible reading". If you have any objection, I'm willing to hear from you. Cheers! budaatum: |
Absolutely! You mentioned it in your earlier defense that the west Indians are part of the population that occupy churches in the U.K - and you are also documenting that immigrants from India, Pakistan etc as the major promoters of religion particularly Islam in the UK which seems more popular than Christianity from your report. This interesting piece shows religion is beyond Christianity in the UK. It's about Islam, Buddhism, race and culture etc as I've mentioned somewhere in our overwhelmed thread list in the past. budaatum: |
Hello Budaatum, It's refreshing to know this isn't a competition but education - I'll acknowledge that. The UK has evolved with lots if Indians taking over various sectors. Sadiq Khan and other Indian politicians in the UK wouldn't and shouldn't mix politics with religion. Politics is a system, religion is an application. Henry the eighth in my educated opinion was selfishly crafting Christianity to suit himself. Whether he was used to chase Christianity out of England, remains a matter of public opinion. I also acknowledge your imperfection and the imperfections of researchers we rely on. We are as good as what we see, hear and smell until we're proven otherwise. I will address the next bubble you wrote and then submit my new findings in another bubble. budaatum: |
Well said - that same clown should stop paying for nomination forms at political parties and buy a VIP ticket to a music concert or a N3million table. Amumaigwe: |
Dear Budaatum, I apologize for replying you late. Thank you for sharing this information piece with me. We are humans with limitations and due to our limitations, we are prone to make mistakes or judge our world differently. The post by the Guardian addresses the false news been peddled as accurate for a long time. Just as I mentioned in our earlier banter, we can "only" report the facts - we can't invent them. The more facts you present determines your win and the more facts i present would determine my win. If your current data is absolutely correct, then your motion on religiosity in UK becomes valid - nevertheless, truth is always hard to find - only consensus truth like data-reports are easier to accept as true. I will investigate this new development and get back to you if needed. Cheers! budaatum: |
ADDITIONAL NOTE: The party-switching/social media advocacy by Obidients maybe a strategy to divide attention given to Bola Tinubu. It may be a sign of possessiveness of power, authority and attention. Or to make someone less famous appear more famous than an "actual famous person ". Largely, the Obidient's Campaign is likely focused on creating "social fear" than "concrete fear" just to get the oppositions to work more or talk more all in the interest of possible political relevance or influence that will make them feel good or powerful. |
One thing I know the self-centered Nigerians would never do is follow Peter Obi to Prison. MarketDispatch: |
It's like a Chieftancy title to him. yarimo: |
Many think the more we talk about Peter Obi, the more popular he would get - and the better his chances of winning. Frankly, this would not be referred to as politics but entertainment. Clowns are hired to entertain people in a circus. There are two benefits you get from a political race, a "political office" and "fame". Peter Obi is currently enjoying one benefit. Let's get practical: you get a big advertising agency to market a launched product, but it doesn't guarantee the product would get more sales. What marketing does: it makes your product memorable in people's minds but it doesn't change people's loyalty to other products. Little wonder why flyers litter streets and people skip ads on social media. Peter Obi has nothing to lose - he's got the love and affection of the people - even if he doesn't get the office, he's got the love of his small audience. Obedients have a lot to lose - they are the marketers, the advocates and the shame bearers. The strategy of pillar-to-post is recommended but not in excess. A series of abandoned projects don't build a mission. Politics is not when you show off your blings and chains but when you show your hardwork. If Bola Tinubu capitalized on showbiz, the APC would not be a manifestation today. Popularity doesn't necessarily mean value - many celebrities ran for public offices and still lost. Bola Tinubu was valuable in his prime and his "value" earned him his popularity - and that same popularity earned him the Presidency. People made Bola Tinubu popular by defaming him and he did nothing about it but yet all that, he still built a political party successfully and got a Presidential ticket on the same platform successfully. Peter Obi's campaign is putting "popularity" before "value" hence, putting the cart before the horse. ### |
You're the Mohammed Ali of Nairaland political analysis based on how you've marketed yourself. I will not dispute claim neither will I de-market myself. But what I explicitly want you to know is that, this forum has unheard talents that are smarter than sought-after writers here. Nevertheless, I give credit to you for your "come to past" analysis . Based on the existing variables in Nigeria's politics, your analysis this time is highly predicted to drop from 90% to 40%. Please note: I'm not a Prophet nor a Psychic - I don't see people's future. helinues: |
That's where you got it wrong. Experience beats your knowledge. 2031 move you've analyzed will only show a saturated market for your candidate. 2027 is strategically locked for a specific candidate. Confidence is when you still use the same weapon (APC), not when you change weapons from cutlasses to log of wood. helinues: |
We will discuss 2031 but let's first of all discuss 2027 and Tinubu's checkmate. helinues: |
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