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Mrmayor,
Could you please expatiate on this statement : "Has is ever occurred to you that the bible you quote so many times were written by Jewish historians to justify their actions,that its all sanctioned by God." ?

@mukina2 ,
Okay, if you say so. But the question is this,do you believe my testimony?

@Drusilla,
That statement is very deep and has deep meanings as well; to this effect, I am of the opinion that you are in the best position to explain to me - a humble learner.

@Drusilla,
I can see that you and Nferyn come from way back.

@nferyn,
Before I start my discussion on God and the evidences supporting His existence, could you please name 5 scientists who in your own personal opinion are very fundamental to science especially science as we know it today?

@nferyn,
That was a nice love story. You write it as a script, I am really proud to know someone that is as open-minded as you are. But candidly speaking, I think I might have been supercilious in character if I were to be a"white".I say this 'cos I feel superior to my other african brothers who are from nations like Ghana, Togo, Benin, Liberia and even southafrica.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!

@drusilla,
You no go kill me o o o

You guys never seize to leave an impression on me.

@Drusilla,
I don't get the point of your last post. Expatiate please.

Hmmmm, Those are words but . . .  .I need more, could you send me more info on the above subject via my e-mail? Thanks.
You could gain deeper knowledge on islam from world class christian scholars on  http://www.bethinking.org/categories.php?CategoryID=10 (note that this site is operated by deep and scholarstic christians; they reveal Islam in a new dimension).

@SEUN,
Tanxx for the info.

@ nferyn,
If I may ask, how come you are an active poster on this site especially against the back-drop of your race. (Please, I am not being racist, I am just trying to know what your interest is.)

The intention is that I want to relate this knowledge to the one I already have on the fourth dimension afterwhich I will then tell you how relevant God is to this present world and how common the evidences are.

You guys really crack me up. Statue ko, shadow ni !!! 
I don't care if the statue was bleeding, sweating or weeping. It is still a statue. So why pay attention to it? Are you exalting a statue over Jesus? Instead of looking up to God, you are looking up to statues of JESUS and Virgin MARY. I think I need to cast some demons out of certain statues. Satan is just using your gullible minds. Wake up now or wake up in hell simply 'because you didn't read your bible properly. I will say no more.

Could you please tell me a little bit about the temporal dimension? I want to learn more. Just tell me whatever you know abt it, it doesn't have to be an expert's knowledge.

@ MUKINA2,
Wasn't that ur "Hmmmmm okay" sarcastic?

@ Liquidmind,
Can you share with us the reasons for this belief?

hmmmm, good use of words. Applause applause. Contrary to what you thot, I was not declaring victory. Rather, I was  commending your sound argument. Some people argue  but without reason to argue. But in your case, I see intellectualism. An open mindedness to learn new things.
At the end of our discussion,there will only be one outcome;which is that you will know your creator in a better way.
Let me start by asking you to tell me the number of dimensions you know and tell what each dimension consists.

@ mukina2,
I can authoritatively tell you that since I knew God in 1996 and entered a covenant with HIM, I have never been sick!!! Not even a cold.

What do you think we mean when we call our master THE GREAT PHYSICIAN?

I can't believe that I am meeting an atheist that is not arguing for the sake of argument but one that actually knows what he is talking about. However, quantum physics is another story entirely. Once again, I applaud your strong sense of analysis.Thanks

LIQUIDMIND,
Abeg tell them,I have been trying to tell them o o o o.

nferyn:
Predestination follows logically out of the omniscient (all seeing) and omnipotent (all powerful) properties of God. That of course contradicts the free will people supposedly have in the Christian worldview.
Your can't have your cake and eat it.

@ nferyn ,
Those were thought-provocating lines. So were exactly do you stand? Remember Paul wrote somethings on the subject in the early chapters of Romans.

@ Dollie-pie,
Abeg, no mind our quote quote thing jare ; I must agree with you that doing things according to the will of God is the best approach to life.

Some people believe there is what is called destiny and some don't.
Whatever school of faith you belong, what is your position on destiny?
Share your view with us. Thanks 

so stillkay,
what is your conclusion after the long thread?

@ SEUN,
Sorry for the delay, I had to do a proper cut and paste job on your question so I am quoting Pastor David Reagan :



"The title, god, carries the idea of one who is exalted and powerful. Only God has all power and is fully exalted. In this sense, He alone is God (Psalm 86:8-10; Isaiah 44:6; 45:22). We are to have no other gods before Him (Exodus 20:3).


Yet, 1Corinthians 8:4-6 tells us that there are many that be called gods: "For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God." Here, we see that there are beings called gods both in heaven and in earth. In Genesis 3:5, one of the temptations by the serpent is that by eating the forbidden fruit men can be "as gods." But who are these human gods?



Exodus 22:28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.

Here, the rulers of the people are connected with gods. Their power over others gives them a position similar to that of gods.

Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

In this psalm, God is declared to be the great Judge of all the earth (v.1). He is contrasted with the earthly judges who "judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked" (v.2). They are the ones who are called gods. A god is one who is exalted and powerful. He makes decisions in the lives of others. These powerful men were gods (not God) because of their power, but because of their unjust judgment they will "die like men, and fall like one of the princes" (v.7). Their power will not keep them from death or from their own judgment. "



Hope this answers your question.

KAG,
It is strange that you use terms from astronomy only to say that their astronomical meanings are wrong. Everyone who has been to a basic astronomy class (I very much doubt if you have) will know that the geocentric solar system theory is the one in which the earth was assumed to be stationary while all other objects in the solar system revolve around it while heliocentric solar system is one in which the sun is assumed to be stationary and every other object in the solar system revolves around it so I wonder why you use the word heliocentric in making an astronomical argument against the Bible when you mean something other than what it means astronomically. I have taken the pain to search NASA website for the meaning of heliocentric (just incase you have your doubts)
: http://search.nasa.gov/search/search?q=heliocentric&output=xml_no_dtd&sort=dateADALAd1&site=nasa_collection&ie=UTF-8&client=nasa_production&oe=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=nasa_production

I also took the pain to search the OXFORD DICTIONARY for the meaning, you can have the link also: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/heliocentric?view=uk   


Like I said earlier, before you choose to use things as facts for arguments, make sure you do your homework properly and with the foregoing statement, I would like to bring to your knowledge that do not wish to oppose or support your so called facts anylonger however, I will like you to brood over these:

1 Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1 Corinthians 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

1 Corinthians 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

1 Corinthians 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

1 Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

1 Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

1 Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
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It was a great pleasure having your contribution, thank you and God bless you.

@ coco29,
Hey!!!, been monitoring some of your posts as usual and I find them highly "inspiring"

@ deb,
I guess you didn't read my post properly so I will quote it:

"Theorethically we are not GOD but gods and practically we are gods too. Please, don't mix it up "

So what is your question about? Neways, you are getting me wrong because it is clearly written in Romans 8:14 "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God".

@ Enigma,
could you please tell our readers the meaning of ELOHIM?