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Ugonna,
Don't you dare think of running away. So now you agree with me that they can never converge after all these while. So tell me, what school do you belong? OMNISCIENCE OF GOD or man's free will?

@ SEUN,
Why do you have so much hatred against God? When I read some of your posts I see elements of Cognitive dissonance. You can prove me otherwise.

Could you guys please drop the issue of the trinity and concentrate on the subject matter.   

Hmmmm,this is getting very interesting.

Sir,
You didn't include your graduation class in the resume.

To those that believeth all things are possible as there is nothing too difficult for my DAD. LNG employs a minimum of 2-1 only.

GT means Graduate Trainees
2006 is the year
001 is the batch.

applause applause @k2,

keep it up sir.

@coco29,
I am good n u?

I am a navigator (unlimited) with a world class multi-national oil and gas company.But most importantly, I am a servant of God.

heheehehe

@ macalurs,
why are you sad?

Enugu,
Yep, the greatest miracle is the salvation of the soul which is free since christ paid the price.

People tend to fear the guy 'because of the miracles which exceeds the imagination of majority of the world pastors. I see the man more of a challenge than anything else. If he is God's, I want to do more. If he is satan's I want to also exceed him. I belong to the class of people that believe in not just preaching the word of GOD but also demonstrating the power thereof[/color].
During the period I was in the church, I saw a few things that didn't fit. Infact, when i was in the uk sometime in July, a pastor ( white) whose members and elders go to the synagogue periodically asked me my opinion about the man and I told him how I truly felt about him.
I remember back then when some BLW members used to criticise me for attending the church. I kept telling them that I was there to observe and learn but that God will pull me out if need be. It was a great news for me when i heard Oyhakilome was there and has been a regular visitor. I wanted to go back to those guys and tell them I guess your pastor is an assistant to satan 'because T.B joshua was called satan. I no longer attend the synagogue but I learnt somethings there.The man could barely make a sentence in english back  and it is amazing to hear him speak now. [color=#000099]About the debt of the preachings, I must agree that he was far from deep but these can be due to a lot of factors, he preaches more on the practical side of christianity than theological sides. As a person whose foundations can be traced to a bible studying church, you will understand my discomfort at his superficial preachings till I started to drop this against his background. The challenge is this, if this man can do these things through satan (if he is of satan), why can't men of God do it?[/color][color=#990000][/color] It is no longer a debate whether his miracles are farces or not' neither is it a debate if anyone can class the power he demonstrates. His miracles are not comparable with the contemporary guys in the healing and deliverance ministries.[color=#000099] The miracles were so powerful that antagonists called Him satan or the anti-christ 'because they believed he could actually call fire from heaven and with what I have seen, I do not doubt it. The fact remains that satan only does things that are counterfeit, if T.B Joshua is counterfeit then there must be an original so where is the original?But like earlier "posters" indicated, we should stop focusing on the miracles alone and also on the word. But have you guys ever taught about men of God who preach but can't demonstrate the power?
One of the criticms that used to be leveled against T.B Joshua was that he was not educated and as such God can not use him. It is ridiculous what some of these pastors said back then. I now wonder if those guys were actually pastors or just demos as I expected them to remember people like peter and more recently, Charles G Finney and Smith Wiggleswort who shook the world for God.
The church has had enough of word only and miracles only. It is great news that the prosperity preaching is loosing it's hold. People now want miracles but of what use is miracles without the word of God to seal it? I am waiting for the next move of the holyspirit and going back Smith Wiggleswort's prophesy on this move, it is the move where the word will be combined with the power as never seen before. i believe we are near that time. The bandwagon of God is about to move, if you don't jump on it now, you will only try to catch up with it.

In the kingdom of satan, they pay prices for power too so can you imagine what price T.B Joshua could have paid to operate at the level which he operates? (If he is of satan)
Contrary to what many think, power from God is not free, you have to pay the price for it so the quetion is this- who is the man willing to pay the price to be an extra-ordinary minister of God? It is not by power or by might but by my Spirit says the LORD.
I maintain my stand, whether the man is of God or not is not my business. What concerns me is that the level of power to which he operates must be exceeded. This is the time of the latter rain but where is the power? Someone please tell me, where is the power that was said to be in the latter rain?[/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000]

These muslims sef? Everybody they expect messiah una sef dey expect messiah.  Na wa o o .It is the antichrist jare !!! Abi I lie?  
But wait  o o o, must you guys do what the christians do? I hear you guys now have prayer ground on the ibadan express way and converge like the christians do. Well, you guys should keep it up with trying to catch up.

@davidylan

@grouppoint,
I strongly agree with goodguy, you seem to be supporting both freewill and omniscience of God which indebt analysis over the years have shown to contradict. Can you please tell us how God can be omniscient with man having freewill? You have been dancing around with words but have failed to expressly tell us where God's omniscience and man's freewill converge.

  @babalawo

hehe

@ Ugonna,
Thank you for that question (very analytical question). Well,I have to be weary of you as from now on.

@ group point,
Oya, answer her question. 

@ sucess001,
Wetin u too dey do here?

If you guys are serious abt the UK HSMP, visit this link

http://www.workingintheuk.gov.uk/working_in_the_uk/en/homepage/schemes_and_programmes/hsmp.html

@GROUPPOINT,
APPLAUSE! APPLAUSE!! APPLAUSE!!!  (for the above post only).

@Fresh B --->  Expired Y. Watch ya back dude.

Seun,
Why do you say there is no God? God is " realer" than Abeokuta was to me when i was there last summer. If you are willing, I will show Him to you (for real).

@ Ugonna,

Well,
I work in nigeria and earn just above N 0.6 million per month after tax as a fresher;i guess this is a good salary?

@ izoneb

@goodguy,
I am sure you will say KDK has come again but I am happy to inform you that I have reserved my comments about this post so don't be scared.

Heheheeheheh     
You guys really crack me up. I am sure some antagonists are itching to know what I want to write. Well, let me make it clear:
I have met the man TB Joshua.
He has prayed for me a couple of times (I don't remember how many times).
He has given me money for my upkeep a couple of times too.
I was a member of his church for close to 3 years.


I was attending the synagogue when the criticism was highest and it was sad to know that most of what the press was writing were false. He was said to be paying people to give testimonies? I am sure if it was true, he must have ran out of people in lagos by now or atleast , his agents must have approached you about coming to testify in the synagogue. The press is a joke.
They said the man never called the name of Jesus, blablabla;as far as i can remember, i never for once heard him exalt satan. I have some issues with the synagogue (however I shouldn't expect a church to suit every member) but I can not say he doesn't preach christ and since he preaches christ, I am okay with him because my bible tells me in philipians 1:18 "What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice".
Whether he is doing it sincerely or not is none of my business just like Paul said. It is God that will judge him on that great day.By the way, what gives you the impression that all the pastors and overseers will make heaven sef? Till we put aside doctrinal and denominational differences so as to seek JESUS CHRIST for who He is, we may never find God. I still pray the prayer of paul in Phillians 3:10 "that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death,"

God bless you all.

@ group point,
where does God's pre-destination and omni-potence fit into all you said? Don't worry, I will be able to follow your line of discussion as you proceed.

@izoneb,
Please, don't tell me you are from warri.