The phrase born again is scriptural and first came from the very lips of our Lord Jesus. But there quite a few professing Christians who get offended when someone ask them the question, 'are you born again '.
I think this is about the most important subject in the scripture because of the consequences of ignoring the subject. Our Lord Jesus said;
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Notice the phrase, he cannot see the kingdom of God talk more of entering into it.
Verse 7 of the same chapter says;
John 7:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
So, the question now is, how can a man be born again?
I will like to first state that born again is none of the following;
1. It's not about a resolution to stop doing wrong things. Resolution is good but it won't save you. You are still a sinner no matter what you do.
2. It's about joining a performing organisation like MaxInDHouse always boast.
3. It's not about joining a church.if joining a church could save you, then going to a zoo should make you an animal.
4. It's not about water baptism. If water baptism could save, all those baptized by John the Baptist could have been saved.
5. It's about be born into a Christian home. It doesn't matter if your Father is a Bishop and your mother is a Deaconess. That doesn't affirm that you are saved.
6. It has nothing to do with church confirmation. Even those who confirm you may not saved.
7. It's not also about keeping the 10 Commandments in the Law of Moses.
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You must not eat outside,you can plant Cassava in your backyard garden to make your own garri/Fufu Plant pumpkin so you can harvest Egusi,don’t forget to plant pepper too Then you can also plant palm tree in your backyard to make your own palm oil
See,You must not buy everything,let’s be planting gardens in our backyards while our politicians keep looting and living large No need to buy water too,just fetch rain water
The culture of farming must be inculcated in all Nigerians. This should be part of our curriculum. Government should close down any school that has no farm. They should provide seedlings free for people to plant. They should run free educational videos of how people can plant with bags if you have no land.
If over 50% of us have pepper, onion and tomato garden, the abokis in the North will beg people to buy their tomatoes.
It doesn't determine the worth of your life. Vanity upon vanity. You will die one day and leave them behind. Invest your life taking care of the poor, fatherless and orphans. Above all, save your soul by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.
Dapromzy333: Pastor Enoch Adeboye, the General Overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of God, RCCG, has urged Nigerians experiencing hard times to call on God for help.
Adeboye spoke at RCCG headquarters in Ebute-Metta on Sunday during the June thanksgiving service with the theme, ‘Lifter Up of My Head’.
According to Adeboye: “If you need provision, if things are hard and I know things are hard for quite a few of us, call on the one whose name is Jehovah El-Shaddai, the God who is more than enough.
“Call on Him – the one who is more than enough and He will meet your needs…He has many ways, depending on what is your need.
“When all ways are blocked, call on Him who is called the way when you don’t even know what’s going on.”
The organized labour had embarked on the strike to push for an improvement in the minimum wage of workers.
While the organized labour is proposing N494,000 as new minimum wage, the Nigerian government is insisting on paying N60,000.
In a last minute move to stop the strike, leaders of the National Assembly and organized labour met yesterday.
The meeting, however, ended in a deadlock as the organized labour insisted on the commencement of the strike.
Speaking after the meeting, TUC President, Comrade Festus Osifo said the organized labour will never call off the strike without consulting its members.
“It is difficult and infact impossible for us as labour leaders, to call off the strike here. We need to communicate with our various organs , meaning that, the industrial action starts on Monday as planned,” he said.
Of course, we have to call on God. But we should also support the weak. This is what the scripture says. Pastor Adeboye, please lead by example. Sell your private jets and give to the poor. Those who have more than one cars should sell their cars and help the poor. This is what the scripture teaches.
AntiChristian: Where was it stated like this in the Bible?
Theology of Nicene 325AD!
John 1:1-3, 14 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
honesttalk21: They did call God father or you don't know your scripture.
In Isaiah 63: 7. I will tell of the kindnesses of the Lord, the deeds for which he is to be praised, according to all the Lord has done for us— yes, the many good things he has done for Israel, according to his compassion and many kindnesses. 8. He said, “Surely they are my people, children who will be true to me”; and so he became their Savior. 9 In all their distress he too was distressed, and the angel of his presence saved them. [a] In his love and mercy he redeemed them; he lifted them up and carried them all the days of old. 10 Yet they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit. So he turned and became their enemy and he himself fought against them.
11 Then his people recalled[b] the days of old, the days of Moses and his people— where is he who brought them through the sea, with the shepherd of his flock? Where is he who set his Holy Spirit among them, 12 who sent his glorious arm of power to be at Moses’ right hand, who divided the waters before them, to gain for himself everlasting renown, 13 who led them through the depths? Like a horse in open country, they did not stumble; 14 like cattle that go down to the plain, they were given rest by the Spirit of the Lord.This is how you guided your people to make for yourself a glorious name.
15 Look down from heaven and see, from your lofty throne, holy and glorious. Where are your zeal and your might? Your tenderness and compassion are withheld from us. 16 But you are our Father, though Abraham does not know us or Israel acknowledge us; you, Lord, are our Father, our Redeemer from of old is your name.
Is the emboldened verse 16 not the speech of Israelites likely the Jews who were taken into captivity by the Babylonians after the fall of Jerusalem in 586 BCE.? Where did they derive the culture to call God father from?
Adam is not the image of God?
Adam had no human parents and God is not human, yet the very Word of God, inspired by the Holy Spirit, uses these terms. This helps us realize that “son” in reference to Adam as well as Jesus; and “Father” in reference to God means something other than a biological son and a biological father.
The context God was referred to as father was in the context of his relationship with the entire nation of Israel. Name any prophet of old that called God his father in a personal relationship. You won't find one.
Besides, there are other titles Jesus claimed that was exclusively for God such as
1. I Am 2. I am the first and the last.
Jesus is the full expression of his Father. God the Father is invisible. If you want to see God, look at Jesus.
Mohammed is an anti Christ. He has brainwashed you all to reject the truth in the Bible. But you can deliver yourself from this deception. The choice is yours
honesttalk21: Glad to see you now abandon your false belief and talk about Prophet Muhammad pbuh and Muslims in hell.
Doesn't the book of Luke 3 in verse 38 say Adam is the son of God? "the son of Enosh,the son of Seth, the son of Adam,the son of God.
You will most likely then say 1st Adam and 2nd Adam but seriously are all men not descendants of Adam?
In first-century Judaism, baptism was performed for reasons of ritual purity, as prescribed in the book of Leviticus. This practice was later adopted by “God-fearers” or “righteous” Gentiles as a sign of their covenant with Abraham upon converting to Judaism.
John the Baptist introduced a new form of baptism, known as the “baptism of repentance” (Mark 1:4), which marked a significant shift in its meaning and purpose. Jesus got baptised by him and in line of his mission perhaps this was a good place for him to be introduced to the Israelites he was sent to?
John the Baptist’s baptism differed from the earlier Jewish practice in that it was a baptism of repentance, symbolizing the forgiveness of sins and preparation for the coming of the Messiah (Matthew 3:1-12). This new form of baptism gained significance with the arrival of Jesus Christ, who submitted to John’s baptism (Matthew 3:13-17) and subsequently instructed his disciples to baptize others (Matthew 28:19).
Ezekiel 18:1-32 emphasizes individual responsibility for sin and the possibility of repentance and forgiveness. Is it not true that Ezekiel 18:23 says, Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked,declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his ways (repent) and live? Is the baptism of Jesus in accordance with this?
Other “sons of God” in the Bible include the nation of Israel, which is called the son of God (and even the firstborn son) in Exodus 4:22; Then you will tell him, ‘This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son, Jeremiah 31:9; They will come with weeping;they will pray as I bring them back.I will lead them beside streams of water on a level path where they will not stumble,because I am Israel’s father, and Ephraim is my firstborn son, Hosea 11:1; When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son and Psalm 89:27 too reads I 27 “I also shall make him My firstborn, The highest of the kings of the earth in regards to David.
So what is the big deal? The miracle sign shown in Mary not copulating with a man or being married? Do you want to determine what and how God shows miracles to mankind to make them believe?
Allah enjoins that excesses should not be made regarding the birth or nature of Jesus who he sent.
In the Qur'an, Allah instructs believers not to commit excesses or go to extremes in their beliefs about Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace be upon him) and his birth. This guidance is aimed at maintaining the proper understanding and reverence for Prophet Isa within the framework of monotheism.
When God does a miracle such that rain falls just before you but not on you do you make a big deal of It?
Or rainfall under the bright sun shine.
Please stop entertaining fables and talelike explanations of your scripture
Others who were referred to as sons of God were in a different context. Did any of those you mentioned ever called God Father?
Jesus wasn't just the Son o God, he was referred to as the only begotten Son of God. Begotten means he had the same DNA of God in him. He is essentially God in human flesh.
And when he rose from the dead, he is called the first begotten from the dead. No one ever rose from the dead to die no more. Jesus was the first.
God is his Father and Jesus is the very image of God in human flesh. No wonder he told Thomas that he who has seen me has seen the Father. No mortal man talks that way.
honesttalk21: Therein is the miracle or you cannot read that? The almighty shows his majesty in humanity by doing that. God is far above having a child. This is your problem. More so not understanding the etymology of God being called father in Hebrew/Israelite culture.
I will remind you of your statement about prophet Muhammad pbuh placing a ladder which is another one of your deliberate lies.
You claim you are not told he came out when it is said he is the first to cross the ladder. What does the emboldened mean in English? I sense you are Kenechukwu who suddenly doesn't understand what he writes.
The Sirat is a bridge that will be set up over Hell, over which people will pass according to their deeds. Some will pass as fast as the blink of an eye (Prophet Muhammad pbuh being the first), or as fast as lightning, or as fast as the wind, or as fast as swift horses. Some will cross running, some walking, some crawling, and some will be snatched and thrown into the Fire, each according to his deeds.
A ladder shown in Christian artwork and symbolism generally represents the concept of ascension to heaven or a transverse ladder acting as a bridge to righteousness.
Your post reads As-Sirat (A BRIDGE) WILL BE LAID ACROSS HELL AND I (MUHAMMAD) SHALL BE THE FIRST AMONGST THE APOSTLES TO CROSS IT WITH MY FOLLOWERS
Why are you so obsessed that your sense of intellect is turned off?
Sadat will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell
The Messenger - ﷺ - said in a Hadeeth about [the Sirat1] that was narrated by Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri:
...So there would be the safe and successful, the bruised, the imprisoned, and those who are piled into it upside down [the Fire]. Collected by ibn Majah #3472, Ahmad: 3/11 #11096, Ibn Hibban: 16/377 #7377, al-Hakim: 4/628 - who authenticated it with the conditions of Muslim, and authenticated by al-Albani in Saheeh Sunan ibn Majah. Ibn Abi Hamza commented:
It is understood from the Hadeeth that those who pass over the Sirat are of three categories:
1. A successful one who passes without any bruises.
2. An unsuccessful one from the start.
3. The middle ground, one who is afflicted but is then successful. Each one of these categories consists of subcategories that are known by the phrase:
According to their deeds [i.e they will be of varying speeds according to their past actions]
There is another fourth category, and they are:
Those who are stuck there as was mentioned in the Hadeeth of Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri that has preceded.
God affirmed Jesus to be his son twice in the Bible.
The first was during his baptism. A voice was heard from heaven;
Matthew 3:16-17 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
On another occasion when Jesus was transfigured, a voice spoke from heaven;
Matthew 7:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
honesttalk21: Jesus is the son of Mary and is a miraculous conception without a father fulfilling this miraculous sign as a prophet and messenger of Allah to the Children of Israel.
I answered your misconception about Quran 3:55 and you claim I deviate?
Obviously you ask so many questions so which do I answer? I choose to answer what is most relevant as the others are the non essential you delude yourself with.
I see you choose to not fulfil your word here:
It is to be expected when you fail to show your earlier claim that prophet Muhammad places a ladder nor show proof that Muhammad is in hell by your false claim of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770.
Prophet Muhammad pbuh is the first to cross over the bridge and this bridge leads where?
Mary is the mother. Who is the Father?
Please stop bringing the issue of Mohammed placing a ladder. That is not important. What matters is that he is on hell. He crossed the ladder and we are not told he came out.
Every child has a father and a mother. The case of Jesus can't be different. If man did not put the baby Jesus there, God did. So, he is the Son of God as revealed in the Bible.
paxonel: For instance Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: FOR SUCH IS HEAVEN.
Jesus did not say For such will make heaven. He categorically said For such is heaven.
That means, if you are a Christian you are heaven itself. It is understatement to say a Christian will make heaven, it's like saying a university student will pass Jamb.
Then many of you Christians(like those with the deeperlife ideology of making heaven) in your mind you are waiting for rapture you are trying to make heaven just like a university student is waiting for jamb result and is trying to pass Jamb, does that make sense? You will simply wait and die working for nothing. Keep waiting!
Don't deceive yourself anymore And stop deceiving others too You are not a candidate for heaven, you are simply heaven itself, that's how powerful you are
Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Someone that is having the key to his house does not wait to enter his own house
Why not read other translations before you begin to exhibit your ignorance?
Atheist001: I asked five christian this question so far but they couldn't give an answer at all,they only dodge the question. The previous Four christians I orally interviewed. But I will share my What'sapp conversation with a Christian that has been inviting me to her church,about two weeks now. She couldn't answer the question either. Below is the screenshot of our conversation:
Christ in you doesn't mean he dwells in you as Jesus. He dwells in you through his Holy Spirit. And you can't see the Holy Spirit. But you can hear his voice and feel his presence
God created sex and he knows humans mate. It gives him delight when it's done within the confines of marriage. In any case, the Holy Spirit mission in your life is not to supervise your sex life but to empower you to preach the gospel.
honesttalk21: Is a representative of one totally equal the the one represented. Can the representative take on issues outside the purview/limits of representation?
And I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, till the Day of Resurrection
When Allah raised `Isa a.s to heaven, his followers divided into sects and groups. Some of them believed in what Allah sent `Isa as, a servant of Allah, His Messenger, and the son of His female-servant.
However, some of them went to the extreme over `Isa, believing that he was the son of Allah. Some of them said that `Isa was Allah Himself, while others said that he was one of a Trinity. Allah mentioned these false creeds in the Qur'an and refuted them.
The Christians remained like this until the third century CE, when a Greek king called, Constantine, became a Christian for the purpose of destroying Christianity. Constantine was either a philosopher, or he was just plain ignorant. Constantine changed the religion of `Isa by adding to it and deleting from it. He established the rituals of Christianity and the so-called Great Trust, which is in fact the Great Treachery. He also allowed them to eat the meat of swine, changed the direction of the prayer that `Isa established to the east, built churches for `Isa, and added ten days to the fast as compensation for a sin that he committed, as claimed. So the religion of `Isa became the religion of Constantine, who built more then twelve thousand churches, temples and monasteries for the Christians as well as the city that bears his name, Constantinople (Istanbul). Throughout this time, the Christians had the upper hand and dominated the Jews. Allah aided them against the Jews because they used to be closer to the truth than the Jews, even though both groups were and still are disbelievers, may Allah's curse descend on them.
When Allah sent Muhammad, those who believed in him also believed in Allah, His Angels, Books and Messengers in the correct manner. So they were the true followers of every Prophet who came to earth. They believed in the unlettered Prophet, the Final Messenger and the master of all mankind, who called them to believe in the truth in its entirety. This is why they had more right to every Prophet than his own nation, especially those who claim to follow their Prophet's way and religion, yet change and alter his religion. Furthermore, Allah abrogated all the laws that were sent down to the Prophets with the Law He sent Muhammad with, which consists of the true religion that shall never change or be altered until the commencement of the Last Hour. Muhammad's religion shall always be dominant and victorious over all other religions. This is why Allah allowed Muslims to conquer the eastern and western parts of the world and the kingdoms of the earth. Furthermore, all countries submitted to them; they demolished Kisra (king of Persia) and destroyed the Czar, ridding them of their treasures and spending these treasures for Allah's sake. All this occurred just as their Prophet told them it would, when he conveyed Allah's statement.
It is God who created all life (Genesis 1), numbers our days (Psalm 90:10-12), and determines when we die (Hebrews 9:27).
Answer this simple question. If Jesus is not the Son of God, whose son is he? Give proof to your answer. Please, don't deviate
honesttalk21: You stubbornly refuse to acknowledge your false claim that prophet Muhammad pbuh will burn and come out as a skeleton.
Did Jesus not say during the Last Supper: “Father,… This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17.3)?
Jesus acknowledges being sent by God but you rather twist this to be God sent God?
He also told his Jewish opponents that the Father is “the one and only God” (John 5.44) and commanded his disciples, “believe in God, believe also in Me” (John 14.1) The belief in me is Jesus emphasis as bearing word from God. Not equating himself to or calling himself God
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "I will be the first to intercede and the first whose intercession will be accepted. I will be the first to be granted permission to intercede and the first to intercede. I will be the first for whom the earth will be split open, and I will be the first to cross the Sirat (bridge over Hell), and I will be the first to enter Paradise." (Sahih Muslim Book 1)
You obviously turn a blind eye to
...Verily those (hooks) would be like the thorns of Sa'dan, but no one knows their size except Allah. These would seize people for their misdeeds. Some of them would escape for their (good) deeds, and some would be rewarded for their deeds till they get salvation.
Disappointed you cannot hoodwink me as you do others? May Allah keep me on the right path and save me and other Muslims from getting misled by you and your type. Ameen
Use your brain. If Jesus is not God in human flesh he won't make most of the statements he made.
1. He accepted worship 2. Angels are commanded to worship him. 3. He knew he had no beginning. 4. He will judge both your Allah and Mohammed. 5. He has the keys of hell and death. When Allah deceives you to hell, you can't come out because the key is with Jesus. 6. He has the power to give life. In fact he life himself.
Even your Quran acknowledges the superiority of Jesus and said his followers are superior to those who don't believe - Sura 3:55
He only became man to save us all.
And whenever he acknowledges God, he speaks from his human perspective.
Which ordinary man can say, he who has seen me has seen the Father?
The problem with you is that you are looking at few scriptures that appears to support your opinion and ignore many more others that affirms his divinity.
Read the prayer of Jesus in John 17. He told the father to glorify him with the glory he had before the world began. He was conscious of his pre existence.
The choice is yours. Time is running out. Jesus is coming back soon.
honesttalk21: It is pathetic that you cannot own up to your speaking an untruth about prophet Muhammad pbuh in regard of you saying he (the prophet) is the one who placed the ladder.
Yes prophet Muhammad pbuh is the first to cross the ladder as he is foremost of those to swiftly pass it.
You wrote:
some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE.
You speak English pretty well and understand some is not the same as all. You also know that some is not one of Prophet Muhammad pbuh' s names.
HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. SO THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time, THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE AS MERE SKELETONS.
Can you point to what in your copied statement of hadith above points at all Muslims being taken out of hell? Where does it include prophet Mohammed pbuh as one of those to come out of hell as a mere skeleton? Rationally the heat of hell is much more than any man made fire yet people get cremated with even the bones burning to ash. Kindly reassess your remarks about stupidity.
Luke 12:47-48 reads The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows.
But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.
Matthew 7:21 states, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Ditto the will of the father not the will of Jesus.
You cannot provide a verse where your Jesus directly says he is God but rely on ambiguous statements. Present a clearly stated one if my statement is not correct.
Also provide for me the any scripture where Jesus said, I am not God, don't worship him.
You will keep arguing until your soul enters hell.
Show me any scripture in your Quran which says that Mohammed will not be hurt by the fire of hell.
All those that Allah pulls out of hell are certainly Muslims. Or will Allah save those whom he has condemned?
There is no point arguing with you. Follow your Allah to hell and I will follow my Jesus to heaven.
I asked you to show the exact sentence stating Muhammad pbuh is the one who placed or places a ladder and you are unable to show this Why?
Also where in the hadith you quote does he (Muhammad pbuh) burn into skeleton? You are mixing things up.
1. Knowing what will be the fate of those in the fire what is the error in asking to be saved from the fate of falling into and being in the eternal fire?
2. Question 2 does not say all Muslims will be amongst the people of fire.
It is the height of irresponsibility to feel there's no punishment for all wrong doings. If this is the case then where is the perfect justice?
In Sahih Al-Bukhari (7439) and Muslim (183) it is narrated from Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri (may Allah be pleased with him) in a lengthy Hadith: “……Then the Sirat (bridge) will be laid across Hell.’ We said, "O Messenger of Allah! What is the Sirat?’ He said, ‘It is a slippery bridge on which there are clamps and (hooks-like) thorns which are wide at one side and narrow at the other and have bent ends.
Muslim added: Abu Sa`id (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “I heard that the Sirat is narrower than a hair and sharper than a sword.”
3. Shows how people are saved according to their deeds justly receiving the amount of retribution for wrong doing. The Sirat is a bridge that will be set up over Hell, over which people will pass according to their deeds. Some will pass as fast as the blink of an eye, or as fast as lightning, or as fast as the wind, or as fast as swift horses. Some will cross running, some walking, some crawling, and some will be snatched and thrown into the Fire, each according to his deeds.
Keep following your fantasy that allows you go in and out of sinful immorality with the illusions that a wrongful belief about or in Jesus will save you and you will bear no repercussions.
Does your Bible tell you there are no repercussions for wrong doing?
How limited is your thinking that you feel the ladder will be material that will be burnt?
Yeshua pbuh is one of the greatest prophets of God and all Muslims believe in him but do not commit the error of equating him to the almighty God.
Did Jesus specifically say I am God?
Do you agree with 1 Corinthians 3:15? Can you explain it in detail as well as 1 Corinthians 3:13?
It doesn't matter if it was Mohammed who placed the ladder. But he is the first to cross. And the Hadith says they will all come out like Skeletons.
It's stupidly to follow a faith with such promises that doesn't guarantee your salvation.
This is why Mohammed confessed his hopelessness and that of his followers in Sura 46:9.
Christianity is just the opposite.
Jesus died and paid the price for the sins of mankind.
Our sins have been washed away by the blood of Jesus.
If you accept him as your Lord has and Saviour, you are automatically saved. And heaven is guaranteed.
And Jesus proved his statement by rising from the dead. He is alive and in heaven right now. On the contrary, Mohammed is dead and he is in hell right now. And you will join him if you don't repent.
You are asking where Jesus said I am God. Oh, he said it in many ways. And his audience knew he claimed to be God. If you can't decode the message, then you need to see a psychiatrist.
Notice a few statements Jesus made that an ordinary man cannot say;
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
The name I Am is the very name God introduced himself to Abraham. Can an ordinary man make such a statement? Please, use your brain.
Revelation 1:17-18. 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Only God can say he is the first and the last.
This is one of the names of your Allah.
In another place, Jesus said he will send the Holy Spirit. How can a mortal man send the Holy spirit? Please, use your brain.
You are just defending the lies in your religion at all cost. Why not humble yourself and receive the free gift of salvation. Don't let pride make you burn in hell for the rest of your life.
Allah is not God. Mohammed is not a prophet of God. He is a false prophet. He doesn't have the credentials of a prophet. A prophet without prophecies. A prophet without any notable miracle. A prophet who lived grossed immoral life. A prophet that turns members into monsters terrorising the world. Please, repent or perish. Jesus loves you and so do I.
honesttalk21: It cannot be that difficult for you to quote it here ?
Are you certain that Muhammad peace be upon him will place this ladder? This is why I ask you to write out the hadith or the sentences.
Take for instance though are you in the river Niger when you travel on the Niger bridge?
Fantastic you even add The heat of the flame will burn both him and the ladder. And he will become skeleton as the hadith says.
Kindly screen shot and label this at least
Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 12, Hadith Number 770 SAHIH BUKHARI BOOK 12. CHARECTERISTICS OF PRAYER HOME SAHIH BUKHARI SAHIH BUKHARI BOOK 12. CHARECTERISTICS OF PRAYER SAHIH BUKHARI VOLUME 1, BOOK 12, HADITH NUMBER 770 Narated By Abu Huraira : The people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?” He replied, “Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?” They replied, “No, O Allah’s Apostle!” He said, “Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?” They replied in the negative. He said, “You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, ‘I am Your Lord.’ They will say, ‘We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him.
Then Allah will come to them again and say, ‘I am your Lord.’ They will say, ‘You are our Lord.’ Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (A BRIDGE) WILL BE LAID ACROSS HELL AND I (MUHAMMAD) SHALL BE THE FIRST AMONGST THE APOSTLES TO CROSS IT WITH MY FOLLOWERS. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, ‘O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.’
There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa’dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa’dan?” The people said, “Yes.” He said, “These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa’dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. SO THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time, THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE AS MERE SKELETONS. The Water of Life will be poured on them, and as a result, they will grow like the seeds growing on the bank of flowing water. Then, when Allah had finished from the Judgments amongst his creations, one man would be left between Hell and Paradise, and he would be the last man from the people of Hell to enter paradise. He will be facing Hell and will say, ‘O Allah! Turn my face from the fire as its wind has dried me, and its steam has burnt me.’ Allah will ask him, “Will you ask for anything more in case this favour is granted to you?’ He will say, “No by Your (Honour) Power!” And he will give to his Lord (Allah) what he will of the pledges and the covenants. Allah will then turn his face from the fire. When he will face Paradise and will see its charm, he will remain quiet as long as Allah will. He then will say, ‘O my Lord! Let me go to the gate of Paradise.’ Allah will ask him, ‘Didn’t you give pledges and make covenants (to the effect) that you would not ask for anything more than what you requested at first?’ He will say, ‘O my Lord! Do not make me the most wretched amongst Your creatures.’ Allah will say, ‘If this request is granted, will you then ask for anything else?’ He will say, ‘No! By Your Power! I shall not ask for anything else.’ Then he will give to his Lord what He will of the pledges and the covenants. Allah will then let him go to the gate of Paradise. On reaching then and seeing its life, charm, and pleasure, he will remain quiet as long as Allah wills and then will say, ‘O my Lord ! Let me enter Paradise.’ Allah will say, May Allah be merciful unto you, O son of Adam! How treacherous you are! Haven’t you made covenants and given pledges that you will not ask for anything more than what you have been given?’ He will say, ‘O my Lord! Do not make me the most wretched amongst Your creatures.’ So Allah will laugh and allow him to enter Paradise and will ask him to request as much as he likes. He will do so till all his desires have been fulfilled. Then Allah will say, ‘Request more of such and such things.’ Allah will remind him and when all his desires and wishes; have been fulfilled, Allah will say “All this is granted to you and a similar amount besides.” Abu Said Al-Khudri, said to Abu Huraira, ‘Allah’s Apostle said, “Allah said, ‘That is for you and ten times more like it.’ “Abu Huraira said, “I do not remember from Allah’s Apostle except (his saying), ‘All this is granted to you and a similar amount besides.” Abu Sahd said, “I heard him saying, ‘That is for you and ten times more the like of it.”
Analysis of the Hadith revelations
1. If crossing the hell with a ladder does not hurt, why would they cry Allah save us?
2. Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, HE WILL ORDER THE ANGELS TO TAKE OUT OF HELL THOSE WHO WORSHIPPED NONE BUT HIM ALONE.
This sentence proves that worshipers of Allah will be in hell. Notice, it said that they worshipped Allah alone. But Allah put them in hell. So, it means all worshipers of Allah will go to hell first.
3. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. SO THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time, THEY WILL COME OUT OF THE FIRE AS MERE SKELETONS.
This sentence confirms its referring to worshipers of Allah. They had traces or marks of their prostrations.
So this is the destination of all Allah worshipers.
I love Allah for this. He deceives you to worship him and also let you know that you will go to hell. But the truth is that he can't get you out of hell because Jesus has the keys of hell and death - Revelation 1:17-18.
The choice is yours. Serve your Allah that promised you hell or receive Jesus who delivered you from hell and promised you heaven- John 14:1-3.
honesttalk21: You are scared to quote the translated text of the Hadith? Do quote it.
If it's too lengthy restrict the quote to 2 sentences before and answer the one which upholds your claim
The quote is in this thread but you pretended not to notice some submissions.
Mohammed said he be the first to place a ladder across hell. Is this not as good as entering hell. The heat of the flame will burn both him and the ladder. And he will become skeleton as the hadith says.
As he attempts to cross, the rest of you will do the same and you can't come out as Allah promised you. He is only deceiving you all.
honesttalk21: Interesting you have just one point to respond to now. Do you really know members of MEND and choose to deny them as Christians now?
Is it false that MEND are affiliated to Niger Delta People’s Volunteer Force (ND Pavp) and the Niger Delta Peoples Salvation Front (NDPSF)? Are all these people too not Christian?
You say Charles and Henry Okah are not Christian?
Can you clearly and unambiguously provide evidence to support the terrorist instruction to Muslims you claim is in the Quran?
I have clarified your wrongly understanding of what is said in Quran 19:71-72 and shown that Muslims are not going to first enter hell.
Mohammed is in hell.. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770
honesttalk21: Your response shows it is impossible for you to see otherwise. In a listed manner you present templates of argument which you wrongly convince yourself to use as justification.
To your first paragraph can you tell me how much rain will fall tomorrow and how many drops will land on you directly and your vehicle? What time exactly it will rain and where you will be?
Can you explicitly show where it is stated I will enter into hell first. Kindly provide the arabic words and actual meaning then review the context?
If you are a slave is it not more honoring to be a slave to Allah the almighty and sole God rather than man or undesirable variations in daily leaving? Do you know the actual meaning of the concept of sons of God? Is it literal? Even if it's symbolic, do you belittle your God so much that you make him have children like mortal man?
Is it like Greek mythology where Zeus bore Hercules and other children?
Does son of God not refer to one in conformity to the guidance of God who enjoys God's care as a result of humble submission ?
How are women made second class? Do not confuse culture or tradition for honourable position of women in islam.
In Islam, women hold an honorable and respected position. The teachings of Islam emphasize the dignity, rights, and equality of women in all aspects of life. Here are some key points highlighting the honorable position of women in Islam:
In the eyes of Allah, men and women are equal in terms of their spiritual duties and responsibilities. Both men and women have the same potential to earn rewards, seek knowledge, and draw closer to Allah through worship and good deeds.
Islam grants women various social rights, including the right to education, work, own property, and participate in public life. Women are encouraged to seek knowledge, engage in business, and contribute to society while fulfilling their roles as mothers and caretakers.
Islam emphasizes the protection and respect of women. Men are instructed to treat women with kindness, compassion, and fairness. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said, "The best of you are those who are best to their wives."
Threat to kill converts? How? You obviously write what you don't have any knowledge about?
Is hope not seen in verses of the Quran that state that after difficulties comes ease, the eternal reward of paradise for the righteous and the bountiful forgiving mercies of Allah?
Are you certain that only acclaimed Muslims terrorise Nigeria? Were the famous Shina Rambo and Anini Muslims? Are the members of the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND) who kidnap and vandalise national and private infrastructure Muslims?
Allah surely heals the seek and raises the dead, who other than Allah can do these? Muslims don't attach to miracles like others do as these things can easily be manipulated by tricksters and the Devil himself?
It's grossly disappointing that you seem to attach the loss of history from Nigeria's education system to Islam. Can you not research to understand obvious and hidden reasons for this?
Sadly, your lumping many issues together at once shows you lack resources to exhaustively discuss and finish one issue at time and look to bamboozle with many questions.
Kindly do better or be quiet please.
MEND are unbelievers. They are not Christians. Not everyone who was born into a Christian home or even attend church is a Christian.
The real term Christians refers to those who have received the free gift of salvation by believing and confessing Jesus as Lord and Saviour. We call Such people born again. A born again Christian cannot be a terrorist.
But a true Muslim is a terrorist. Because they are doing the instructions contained in the Quran.
Your Allah says that you should hate your enemies and kill them. But Jesus said that we should love our enemies. And Apostle Paul said we should even feed them.
The coming of Jesus back to earth to establish his millennium reign will be a visible one.
First Evidence Matthew 24:27-28. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Second Evidence
Acts 1:9-11 9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven
MaxInDHouse: Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar destroyed Jerusalem and it's temple in the year 607 B.C.E.
God revealed in a dream that the trampling of Jerusalem which is God's arrangement to rule will last for SEVEN TIMES! Daniel 4:23
When Jesus walked the earth he told first century Jews that the times of the nations is still ongoing so they should wait until the SEVEN TIMES is over! Luke 21:24
The nations will continue to rule and Christ must sit at God's right hand until the time is fulfilled! Psalms 110:1 compare to Act 7:56
So how long is the SEVEN TIMES? In the Bible book of Revelation it was revealed to John the apostle that three and a half times is equal to 1260 days! Revelations 12:6, 14
Therefore SEVEN TIMES will amount to 2520 days but if we're to calculate from 607 B.C.E. that will end in the year 600 B.C.E. yet Jesus told his contemporaries that the time God gave the nations is still ongoing in his own days {Luke 21:24} therefore we have to go by the standard God pronounced when Israelites annoyed Him a day will be for a year! Numbers 14:34 compare to Ezekiel 4:6
So the 2520 days will be 2520 years counting from 607 B.C.E. it ended in the year 1914. That was the year Jesus was crowned as King of God's kingdom in heaven and the first thing he did was sending Satan out of heaven that year {Revelations 12:7-12} the earth began seeing woes right from that time until today! Matthew 24:7-14
God's people continued preaching zealously and industriously teaching throughout the earth gathering millions of peace loving subjects in preparation for the second coming of Christ who is coming to destroy all opposers of his rule! Luke 19:27
So whoever believes this will continue doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples with endurance till the end! Matthew 24:13-14
God bless you and may you have PEACE!
Another lie manufacturered by Russell and Rutherford and believed by gullible souls.
honesttalk21: Islam did not spread through the sword in its early years. The spread of Islam was primarily through peaceful means, preaching, and the exemplary character of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his companions.
During the early years of Islam, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his followers faced persecution and hardships in Mecca. They endured oppression and violence for their beliefs. However, they remained patient, steadfast, and continued to convey the message of Islam with patience and wisdom.
When the Muslims migrated to Medina, they established a peaceful and just society based on the principles of Islam. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) signed treaties with various tribes and communities, promoting peaceful coexistence and mutual respect.
While there were defensive battles fought in the early years of Islam against those who sought to harm the Muslim community, it is important to note that these battles were not for the purpose of spreading Islam through force. The primary goal was to defend the Muslim community and ensure the freedom to practice their faith.
The spread of Islam was largely due to the sincerity, dedication, and moral values of the early Muslims, as well as the appeal of the message of monotheism and social justice brought by Islam. People were attracted to the teachings of Islam and embraced the faith willingly.
It is essential to understand the historical context and the principles of Islam in order to accurately assess how the religion spread in its early years. Islam emphasizes peace, tolerance, and respect for others, and the early Muslims sought to embody these values in their interactions with others.
You lie more than the devil himself. Which message does Islam have? Message of frustration where Mohammed is unsure of his destiny and that of the followers?
Message that says you will all enter into hell first?
Message that turns you into a slave of Allah? In Christianity, we are sons of God.
Message that makes women second class citizens?
Message that puts fear in adherents threatening to kill them if they convert?
Which Message? You don't have a message. No hope in Islam. No salvation in Islam.
Can your Allah heal the sick and raise the dead?
Can he save a sinner from his sinful ways?
How many Muslims can testify that they have a changed life? Are they not the terrorist causing insecurity in Nigeria. Please, say something else.
No wonder the government removed history from schools so you won't know where you are coming from.
It's becoming obvious that only an Oyibo coach can better manage these our egocentric, dollar-earning, foreign-based S/Eagles "big boys". Doubt if they'll accord any local coach much respect.
An Oyibo coach will also better manage the ethnic diversity of our players.
But they should get a good one. But after what Westerhof did to us in USA 94, I lost interest in foreign coaches. They are betrayer. They can't watch us beat countries in Europe they have soft spot for. They will just put a game plan to make us lose when playing with big European teams. This I have noticed in many world Cup games. But that of USA 94 was the most painful. We should have won the cup that year. Our players sold their birth right for a morsel of meal.
honesttalk21: I must clarify that Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) did not exclusively hate Jews or any other group of people. Islam teaches compassion, mercy, and respect towards all individuals, regardless of their background or beliefs.
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) interacted with people of various faiths, including Jews, Christians, and others, during his lifetime. He emphasized the importance of treating all individuals with kindness, fairness, and respect. There are numerous instances in the Hadith and Seerah (biography of the Prophet) where he showed kindness and compassion towards Jews and others.
It is important to remember that Islam promotes tolerance, understanding, and peaceful coexistence among people of different backgrounds. Hatred and discrimination are not in line with the teachings of Islam.
Muslims are encouraged to uphold justice, kindness, and respect towards all individuals, following the example of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who was a mercy to all of mankind.
You are either ignorant or your religion or just chose to lie. How did Islam spread in its early years? Through sword. Go and read history. Don't tell me that you don't know about Utman Dan Fodio Jihad in West Africa. Or do you want me to quote your Quran verses for you supporting my claims?
I thought Mohammed hates the Jews passionately. And the Quran even instructs you to hate them and kill them. So, why are you using testimony of those you hate to back up your claim?
Well, the present day Jews are spiritually blind and therefore prone to errors. So, his testimony doesn't hold water.
Your Mohammed was not God sent. He doesn't know God. It wasn't an angel of God who spoke to him. He was deceived and forced his deception on you all. Well, in a real sense, you are no longer deceived because you know your destination- Hell.
And he won't bring you out. Jesus has the keys of hell and death. Those in hell will only be released for final judgment on the last day and be thrown into bigger fire; Lake of fire- Revelation 20:11-15.
You had better received Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and save yourself from the coming wrath.
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