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[quote author=AbuTwins post=129844778][/quote]Winning arguments will not save you. You know that Mohammed is not a Prophet from God. And the God you call Allah is not the true God. This you know.

There can't be two divine Gods. One must be false. You know that my God who is the Father of my Lord Jesus is the true God.

Don't try to win argument and lose your soul. Jesus is the only way to the true God. And your ticket to heaven is not based on your good works. Just believe in Jesus. He is the Saviour of the world. Anyone who rejects Jesus as his Saviour is damned. The choice is yours.

AbuTwins:
Stop the lies!
The Roman Jesus is not saving any lives!
Christianity is melting away especially in Europe and the west.

Many are embracing Islam and few atheism mostly due to the mysticism of the dubious trinity from the councils from Nicaea!

Salvation is only by the believe in Allah and following the Prophet Muhammad in Islam as he should be followed.
This is the same thing Jesus preached to the children of Israel!

But Mohammed confessed that he is uncertain of his destiny and also the destiny of his followers - Sura 46:9.

Please, use your brain. Follow who know road - Jesus. He is the way, the truth and the life. No other name given under heaven by which we shall be saved except the name of Jesus.

Allah on the contrary promise you hell. Go and find out. He said that you will all go to hell first after which he will deliver the righteous one from it. This is dangerous play. In this age of enlightenment. Please, think well.

AbuTwins:
But that's the correct meaning! The Holy spirit can't interpret the Qur'an your way! It's a compound sentence which can be analysed as

1. They worshipped the Rabbi and monks instead of Allah

2. And they also worshipped Jesus....



The verse is attached again from my phone Qur'an. I know you'll rather die in ignorance than accept the truth!

Even the verses before and after that verse shows you are a liar. But Christians don't check contexts.

They just quote John 3:16 and I and the father are one without context!

Our Jesus is affecting lives and giving salvation to countless millions of people. But your Allah offers on one salvation. No where in your Quran Allah promise to save you and make you heaven bound. I challenge you to quote verses in your Quran that promise you salvation.

22jumpstreet:
What concerns me in Delta state with what may or may not have happened in middle east ?

We have 4 days circle...and we understand time as circular rather than linear..

Who cares what pope Gregory decreed.

None of my business bro..

It hurts you. The one you despise is your reference point for your age, birthdays and all forms of dating. Jesus is Lord. You can deny it. And you will stand before him to be judged in that day. Why not receive him as your Lord and escape his wrath;

Revelation 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

LibertyRep:
What or who's to blame this time around?

Sighs.

They are all wicked and unreasonable leaders. They are mentally lazy and overly corrupt.

AbuTwins:
1. They Jews and Christians worship their Rabbis and Monks as lords apart from Allah! They create rules for them and they follow sheepishly!
2. This verse critically criticizes the Christians who Christians are associating to God!

You said the Qur'an puts Allah and Jesus at the same level.

I showed you where Jesus called himself slave of Allah!

The verse you brought had Rabbi, Monks and Jesus!

You are dishonest in your analysis. Let me paraphrase it for you;

Your book says that they worship the Rabbi and Monks instead of Allah and also Jesus.

But you made it sound like this;

They worship, Rabbi, Monks and Jesus instead of Allah.

But that is not what it says. This is simple English. Jesus was mentioned alongside with Allah as deities that should be worshiped.

In any case, your book has so many things that are untrue. It's a mix up of certain lights it got from the Bible mixed up with so many untrue statements that are designed such that it will be hard for Muslims to find salvation.

But thank God so many Muslims are using their brains to know that they have been deceived. Please, you too, use yours. Otherwise, you will end up in hell. The torment is unbearable and it will be for the rest of your life.

22jumpstreet:
Hahahahaha

The brain washing really really worked on you.

You are shocked that Jesus is your Lord. You can't do without him. No dating without him. History revolves him.

Reflect7:
Mumu, are you actually aware that the so called testimonies of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were written ANONYMOUSLY?

Do you know those names like ‘Matthew’, ‘Mark’ , and ‘John’, are FICTITIOUS names that were simply attached to ANONYMOUS texts?

Of course you don’t know this.

Even your mumu pastor doesn’t know this.

This fact I revealed to you is not actually disputed in theological circles, or even by the Vatican.

People who are against the church of Christ will say anything to get attention. It wasn't true. Even the book of Hebrews has no authors name attached to it. But I know it's the writings of Paul.

Muslims say that Jesus didn't die and countless millions believe it.

Satan is fighting hard to cover his shame and drah gullible souls like you into hell.

But beyond Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, I have given you other proofs. The choice is yours to accept or reject it. But the consequences of your choice cannot be determined by you.

Looks exploitative. UK and US run their government and develop their countries primarily through tax. Online business are not left out.

My first sales in Amazon Kindle Store from my books bought was $200. But the money that got me after royalty and tax was just $67.

Reflect7:
2 questions:

a) What evidence do you have that 'Jesus' ever existed?

b) Explain the process by which 'Jesus' ascended into heaven at a dinner table before onlookers.

The evidences are;

1. The testimony of Matthew, Mark Luke and John who wrote about the ministry of Jesus. In any court of competent jurisdiction, the testimonies of two or more people can be used to establish a case provided there are no contrary evidences.

2. The testimony of Apostle Paul who formerly persecuted the church. He had a divine encounter with Jesus on his way to carry out his routine persecution.

3. The testimonies of countless Muslims who were formerly fanatics. They encountered Jesus and their lives changed.

4. Finally, I am a living testimony. My life changed since I accepted Jesus as my Lord and Saviour several years ago. In addition, I have experienced miraculous deliverance through the years from food poisoning which will kill ordinary people like you.


Jesus ascended back to heaven after giving his disciples instructions regarding the promised Holy Spirit;

Acts 1:9-11.
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

geoworldedu:
Rose from the dead in the bible. It's not written in any other non-religious history book

It is in every available library. Even archeologist has found his empty tomb. You are not a student of history. Which school did you attend?

22jumpstreet:
He never existed bro
Only a dunce will believe a woman can become pregnant without the input of a man...

It's a myth, Jesus is just a metaphor for the sun.(The sun of God)

But your birthday is with reference to Christ. Without him, you have no reference point for your birthday.

Even the newly BCE and CE still revolves around Christ. Jesus is the dividing line of history. And you say such a man never existed. The man who has been appointed to judge you. How will you feel standing before the very person you are trying to degrade?

She should have spoken with you first before telling family members. There are many men who cheat on their wives and you hardly hear of it because of a wise wife.

If this is your first time, she shouldn't be hard on you. Just ask for forgiveness from her. And give her time. Buy her gifts. Offer to take her out.

Women generally should be careful how they react when they catch their husbands cheating. It's very rare to see a husband who doesn't cheat. Just that they do it in a way and manner their wife never finds out. So, the one you caught cheating is not the worst husband. What if you divorce him and marry another man, what is the guarantee that he wouldn't cheat? So, don't over react when you catch your husband cheat. Give him another chance. Remember, if you leave that marriage, another woman is waiting to take your place. And it's harder on women in getting a life partner.

22jumpstreet:
Lol, so the brain washing worked on you. The people that even brought or sold you the ideology have Even abandoned it. You are here displaying your Ignorance..

Are you aware historically that Jesus rose from the dead? No one has been able to refute that fact.

geoworldedu:
21st century man still talking like the cavemen

It doesn't make sense but it's true. Spiritual things doesn't appeal to the carnal mind. So, I am not surprised you are talking this way. But it's true.

geoworldedu:
Oyibo racist went to hell so a black negro like me won't have to go there

He went there to suffer the punishment you and I were supposed to suffer. This is uncommon love. And he defeated the devil there and collected the keys of hell and death from him - Revelation 1:18.

22jumpstreet:
Lol...you really don't know anything..

You thought you had a good knowledge of the Bible, but it turns out you where a toddler..

Asper your hell, where I come from....we eat 🔥 fire

So many that neglected their salvation are in great torment now begging for another chance. But it's too late. You that is alive have the opportunity to repent. Don't think it's a joke. It's real friend.

geoworldedu:
Talking as if hell exists Religious stories no dey tire una?

Yes it does. Jesus went to hell so you won't have to go there. Tell me of anything that has a name but doesn't exist.

Don't attend any church you don't agree with their dogmas. She should have known. If you love putting in trousers, you know the church to go to. If you are a conservative Christian, there is a church for you. Provided the Cardinal doctrines are adhered to such as salvation by grace through faith, belief in the coming of Jesus to rapture the church, the baptism with the Holy Spirit.

Some of these holier than I Pastors are worse in things pertaining the other room.

22jumpstreet:
Isaiah never said virgin...the word he used is "Almah" which means a young woman, who is also the prophetess and his wife.

Isaiah never said "Bertula" which would mean virgin..

Look it up..

Read verse 16. I know you have read it. The sign was for king Ahaz. All three children of Isaiah was given to him as sign for the people of Judah. Read 8: 1-18.

Enjoy your trip to hell. I will supervise your torture. Satan has you bound.

Reflect7:
Brainwashed, fanatical rubbish.

The English people that taught you this nonsense have long abandoned it, and are Christian in name only today.

They have long ago seen all the flaws and falsehoods of the beliefs, while you are neck-deep in the garbage.

You are a caricature of colonialist meddling and manipulation of Africans for natural resources, who thinks he has found ‘’the Lord”.

They secretly laugh at you, those English people.

You don't know who Jesus is; The Lion of the tribe of Judah. At his appearance, mountains will flee. Kings will hide under cave and calling for the rock to fall upon them.

The only man that conquered death and ascended back to heaven in the presence of witnesses. At the mention of his name, demons tremble.

You can't stand on your feet when you see Jesus.

22jumpstreet:
You are just desperate. And you keep failing.
Immanuel is Isaiah s second son. The sign was for king Ahaz, it was to assure him that his kingdom will stand the threat of the northern kingdom and syria...read verse 16...

Try again mister.

Son of perdition. There is no virgin on earth who gave birth without the agency of a man. Even Satan will be afraid of you. Your deceit has no part 2.

AbuTwins:
You never finish you Bible you want to do the same retranslation you do to your Bible to the Qur'an!

Allah says while narrating about Jesus:
"He ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;" Qur'an 19:30

Quran 9:31
They take their rabbis and their monks for their lords apart from Allah, and also the Messiah, son of Mary, whereas they were commanded to worship none but the One True God. There is no god but He. Exalted be He above those whom they associate with Him in His Divinity.

Explain the passage above.

22jumpstreet:
I did not see any prophecy here oh..
Genesis is not a prophetic book. It is a law book...
Abi you don't know who a prophet is?

I mean any book from Samuel to Malachi. All these you are posting are not messianic prophesies...
Genesis 3 is God passing a judgement, or is God a prophet? If he is, who is he prophesying for?
Genesis 22 is referencing Abraham..where did you see jman there..?
Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant..and in chapter 45:1-7 Isaiah told you who the servant is...

So where is the prophecy you are talking about..

I need prophecies in the old testament about the Messiah that the Jman fulfilled..

I am waiting.

Here is another one;

Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem. And he will come back to rule his people Israel for 1,000 years - Revelation 20:1-4.

22jumpstreet:
I did not see any prophecy here oh..
Genesis is not a prophetic book. It is a law book...
Abi you don't know who a prophet is?

I mean any book from Samuel to Malachi. All these you are posting are not messianic prophesies...
Genesis 3 is God passing a judgement, or is God a prophet? If he is, who is he prophesying for?
Genesis 22 is referencing Abraham..where did you see jman there..?
Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant..and in chapter 45:1-7 Isaiah told you who the servant is...

So where is the prophecy you are talking about..

I need prophecies in the old testament about the Messiah that the Jman fulfilled..

I am waiting.

Keep denying every evidence. They will stand against you on the day of judgement.


Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Jesus is the only one on earth born of a virgin and even your Quran confirms it.

And the verse also confirms the deity of Christ. Immanuel means God with us.

Jesus actually took our poverty also on the cross. But there are truth you must know and apply before it can work for you. And it's a gradual process.

The scripture says;

2 Corinthians 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

It takes diligent years of study and preparation. It doesn't happen by accident. You can't give your child iPhone who plays video games and do Tit Tok and expect him or her to have such score.

Where are the students from schools that pay millions as school fees?

You can't also be doing boyfriend and girlfriend and get this kind of result.

Congratulations to him.

honesttalk21:
Who is ALA-MADUDI IBN KATHIR?
I will appreciate a link if there's one.

I know Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi as a person but not ALA-MAUDUDI IBN-KATHIR.



From your post relating they rejected the Prophethood of Jesus and brought him to the court for crucifixion, and thus incurred the wrath of Allah.

Does this say Jesus was actually crucified? Or died as a result?

Did Ala-Madudi in his Taysir on Quran 4:157 not say?

...
The fact that they bragged of slaying Jesus, knowing him to be a Messenger of God, shows how bold they had become in their crimes. We have shown in the previous Note that the miracle of his speech in the cradle had let no doubt whatsoever to remain in the minds of the Jews about his Prophethood. Then the clear signs that they witnessed from him (III : 49) were a conclusive proof that he was really a Prophet of God. Therefore their wicked behavior towards him was not the result of any misunderstanding about his Prophethood, but was an intentional crime against the one who had been appointed by Allah as Messenger.

.....

Even according to the Bible, when the Prophet Jeremiah rebuked the Jews on account of their transgressions, they accused him of being in conspiracy with the Chaldeans and traitor against his people and sent him to prison. Likewise had the Jews treated John the Baptist a couple of years before the crucifixion of the Prophet Jesus. They counted John as a Prophet and acknowledged him as one of the most righteous men of their community, but when he criticized Herod (the ruler of Judea) for his evil ways, he was not tolerated. He was first sent to prison, then beheaded on the demand of Herod's beloved, the dancing girl.
It is, therefore, obvious from their record that when they presumed that they had crucified Jesus Christ, they bragged: "We have slain a Messenger of Allah. "
This is another parenthesis.
[b]This verse is explicit on the point that the Prophet Jesus Christ was rescued from crucifixion and that the Christians and the Jews are both wrong in believing that he died on the cross/b]. Ditto Ken4Christ

If your Allah is truly the living God;

1. Why did he wait for about 600 years after Jesus to say that he wasn't crucified? Why didn't he tell the Apostles of Jesus that their Jesus didn't die? Why wait to use a self acclaimed Prophet to reveal that Jesus wasn't crucified?

2. Why couldn't Allah reveal who died in his stead. I thought Allah is all knowing. So, your Allah didn't know who died in the place of Jesus.

Mohammed is not a Prophet from the living God. He was deceived by the revelation he thought came from Angel Gabriel.

He never lived a good moral life. He never lived by example.

A prophet who married a little girl at 6 years and consummated the marriage at 9 years cannot be from God. This is child abuse.

Will you release your 6 years old daughter for marriage? Think about it.

Besides, this information from you Quran is not backed up by any other source.

Even outside the Bible, the story of Jesus crucifixion is contained in other sources. Not even the Roman government who governed them at that time could refute the death and resurrection of Christ.

Why are you people so gullible in this age of enlightenment?

You have been deceived. Please, accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour. There is no assurance of salvation in Islam. If you die now, you know you will not make heaven. There will be fear in your heart about where you will end up.

But in Christ, there is full assurance. You know you will make heaven. Why not follow Jesus who love you and died for you and stop believing lies.

Even Mohammed said he is not sure of what will be done with him and his followers - Sura 46:9.

Why are you taking this risk. Hell fire is very hot. The heat can melt iron. The pain is unbearable. Please, receive Jesus now and you will immediately receive a peace in your heart that assures you that you are saved.

StillDtruth:
And where/who do you thing good custom comes from?

Good custom comes from Natural.Law and Naural Law comes from God!

It is wicked and evil customs that comes from man which is why it is aways nullified by a just Court.

And in every place all over the world God dictated through Natural Law as shown Deuteronomy 22: 25 -29 and it was The Law and Custom of every.nation upon the face of the earth before the world was full of sinfullnes and immoralities, so rest. You have no thing.

At the time Adam and Eve were created, there was no existing law concerning the rules of marriage. And where there is no law, there is no transgression says the scripture.

mhmsadyq:
I am avoiding argument.

There is no contradiction.
You only wish to justify you beliefs with the words of Allah.

Jesus will eventually die in the latter days like all humans and will be Resurrected like humans on the day of judgement like all humans.

If he your Allah didn't allow him to die now, why would he allow him to die another time?

And while would Allah wait for over 600 years after Jesus to tell us he didn't die?

Is your Allah very slow in communication?

Please use your brain. You have been deceived.

22jumpstreet:
Mention just one messianic prophesy that he fulfilled, I will recharge your phone with 5k

You asked for just one. Let me start with three. I will give you more if you want.

Prophecy

Genesis 3:15  And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Fulfillment - Jesus is the only man born of a virgin (seed of the woman)

Matthew 1:18-23.
18  Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

 19  Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.

 20  But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 

 21  And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

 22  Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,

 23  Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us

And he bruised the head of Satan - Defeated Satan

Colossians 2:15  And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

1 John 3:8  He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil

2nd Prophecy

Genesis 22;18  And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.

Fulfillment

Galatians 3:16  Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

3rd Prophecy

5  But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 

Fulfillment

1 Peter 2:24  Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed

Westerhoffe:
And may the One True Living GOD continue to strengthen us the more in JESUS CHRIST'S Mighty name.

Amen.