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Politics / Re: US Doantes Equipment Worth $325,000 To Nigerian Police Force by Kettlecorn: 4:09pm On Jan 30, 2021
NwaNimo1:
Soon to be in the hands of boko haram

That's part of the plan to keep tabs on them. All the equipment loaded with tracking devices
Travel / Re: Which Country Can I Emigrate To With 12million Naira? by Kettlecorn: 3:45pm On Jan 30, 2021
How e be say people still remain for Nigeria with this high rate of Japaism? We too dey born sef. Even winch tire for this contry. They do general meeting last week talk say devil no gree give dem work again say na only Buhari and him Fulani herdsmen dey win devil contract now. Dem dey halla say poor man blood don tire dem to dey suck for Nigeria say they wan japa go suck better blood for Germany.

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Travel / Re: Canada Visit/tourist Visa Discussion. by Kettlecorn: 5:07am On Jan 30, 2021
New Canadian Quarantine requirements to become effective in the coming weeks:

"Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Friday announced stricter restrictions on travelers in response to new, likely more contagious variants of the novel coronavirus — including making it mandatory for travelers to quarantine in a hotel at their own expense when they arrive in Canada and suspending airline service to Mexico and all Caribbean destinations until April 30.

Trudeau said in addition to the pre-boarding test Canada already requires, the government will be introducing mandatory PCR testing at the airport for people returning to Canada. “Travelers will then have to wait for up to three days at an approved hotel for their test results, at their own expense, which is expected to be more than $2,000,” Trudeau said.
“Those with negative test results will then be able to quarantine at home under significantly increased surveillance and enforcement.”
Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Kettlecorn: 4:56am On Jan 30, 2021
Infiosa:


Your opinion is undoubtedly well stated and communicated. As mandatory as quarantine plans sound but it's a function of the state you are visiting in the US. However covid-19 negative test result is inevitably mandatory at every POE in the States. I will definitely agree with u on plans and preparation. As long as your intentions are genuine, no stone should be left unturned. In conclusion, a colleague of mine visited New York this January on 2 weeks vacation and he was not asked so much difficult questions on his quarantine plans despite it was stated that he would be staying in the hotel for the period.

As mandatory as quarantine plans sound but it's a function of the state you are visiting in the US.
No sir, effective Jan 26, it is now a federal manadate signed into law by executive action by Biden, that can and most likely will be regulated at POE. Things are moving very quickly as new variants of the virus are popping up. The burden of enforcing pre testing is on the airlines. You will not be allowed to board without a negative covid test. Quarantine plans however are expected to be validated at POE. These are all still very new as plans are still being tweaked by the CDC. I will not be surprised if the US eventually comes up with stricter enforcement of quanrantine. Canada just announced theirs today. "Trudeau said in addition to the pre-boarding test Canada already requires, the government will be introducing mandatory PCR testing at the airport for people returning to Canada. Travelers will then have to wait for up to three days at an approved hotel for their test results, at their own expense, which is expected to be more than $2,000,” Trudeau said." Those with negative test results will then be able to quarantine at home under significantly increased surveillance and enforcement.
Very draconian in my opinion. My interpretation of this is that they are trying to discourage international travel.

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Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Kettlecorn: 11:18pm On Jan 29, 2021
Infiosa:


Finding resume on a travellers may be flagged as a red flag but business cards should not attract any form of suspicion. From my personal experience, I have shown my business card to the immigration officers at the POEs on different occasions. In fact, it was indeed a convincing proof that I have strong tie to return to the home country. The mentioned excuses for denial of entry at the POE are circumstantial not travel restrictions on non-citizens. The only and most updated requirement for non US citizens is Convid 19 negative test. I will appreciate if you can make a reference, at least we are all because of necessary information.

The underlying principle here is "flee from all appearances of evil that can possibly lead to negative connotations". Carrying a resume or business cards or even attending an interview in the US are not explicitly restricted, but the immigration officers at POE can infer negative things just by seeing stuff like this. It has happened many times before and people should be careful and just avoid it. There was the case of a lady that was denied entry when they found her hair extensions hustle business cards along with a few packets of extensions in her luggage. They said she was going to market and sell her products, which she denied, but then, guess what the result was? The only and most updated requirement for non US citizens is Convid 19 negative test. Not 100% true. There is also the requirement that you quarantine for 10 days. Do you envision that they may ask you your quarantine plans at POE? Again, not explicitly stated but likely a stumbling block if you don't prepare well and think its a triviality. Y'all keep stating the officially published restrictions when we all know that the POE officer has wide discretion to allow or deny entry and can infer almost anything from anything, which they often do. My simple message is plan and prepare well.

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Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Kettlecorn: 10:43pm On Jan 29, 2021
UhnNah:


If ‘What are we saying,what’s he saying’ was a person!

But you type very good to not be getting the ‘points’ coming from 3 different monikers here!

PS: i don’t want to derail pls! That’s how they did on the previous thread! Let’s end it!

Whatever dude. I'm not part of the echo chamber/try your luck gang that doesn't and cannot think things through thoroughly. And this is not derailing, it is actually very germaine to the topic of this thread. Those that can have deciphered the message which is that the pandemic has indeed indirectly made getting a visa more difficult right now and will make better preparations if they indeed have a strong reason to go for an interview at this time.

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Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Kettlecorn: 8:07pm On Jan 29, 2021
UhnNah:


Visit the USA student visa thread! Read from like October 2020 till date! You will find your answers!

Your answers are there too.

Check out this interview testament from a student that had ben previously denied a visa but went ahead to attend remotely. He was ultimately successful:
Me: I would be going to continue by undergraduate degree in biology at Edward Waters college in Florida. I started taking classes for the fall semester in Nigeria because of the pandemic and ended with a 4.0 GPA, I have my result with me.
V.O: wow, 4.0, that's great. (Then, Takes a look at my I-20), oh I can see you have a full ride, that's great.
Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Kettlecorn: 7:55pm On Jan 29, 2021
fkj950ax:


The reference here is entry being denied using COVID at PoE. Everything up there is you deflecting from it.
COVID is not being used at any PoE to deny entry even during this current pandemic.
We all know admittance is at the discretion of CBP

Do I have to spell out everything? I said just like they use the presence of a resume on your person to infer something else, they also use the fact that you're traveling on vacation during a pandemic to a place where most things are shut down to infer some other intent. Its really that simple.
Besides that, what you wrote means exactly what I addressed. You said "everyone is guaranteed entry if they have a valid visa and...…." so not true!

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Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Kettlecorn: 6:51pm On Jan 29, 2021
fkj950ax:


Everyone is guaranteed entry if you have a valid visa, and COVID is not being used at any POE to deny entry. I am a non citizen and traveled with B1 in Nov 2020. Even went on a 9 hour road trip across 3 States lines in a rental.
Quarantine protocol also is self-quaratined, and not 14 days as was the practice in H1 2020. A State I am familiar with is 72-hours, after which, you are free to go about, observing COVID protocols.
72 hour Negative Test is required.

Everyone is guaranteed entry if you have a valid visa, and COVID is not being used at any POE to deny entry
This is so far from the truth, it is not even funny. Only US citizens are "eventually" guaranteed entry into the country. They can be detained and delayed but will be let in. Everyone else, including permanent residents can and have been denied entry in the past. A visa holder has no guaranteed entry. The decision is up to the immigration officer and they can deny entry without giving you a reason. If you know your way around, you can start an appeals process right there, but it is a very convoluted process and almost impossible without prior legal representation arrangement.

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Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Kettlecorn: 6:20pm On Jan 29, 2021
Infiosa:


How do you mean restrictions? The only restrictions that have been communicated is having a covid-19 test 72 hour before boarding a plane to the US. I will appreciate references to other restrictions for vacations and visiting families and friends. See below.
http://ng.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/covid-19-information/

I said the only people guaranteed entry are citizens and permanent residents, but they also need to have a negative covid test. A non citizen with a visa and negative covid test is not guaranteed entry at POE. It is and has always been at the discretion of the USCIS officer, and during a pandemic, non essential travel is discourged. As you well know, not every requirement/restriction is published or communicated. For example, People have been denied entry because they found resumes or even business cards on their person. Not a published requirement, but an indication of an inference.

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Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Kettlecorn: 4:09pm On Jan 29, 2021
UhnNah:


This was before! People have been getting their student visas and traveling to the US for the past few months! And the embassy has started attending to B1/B2 visas,though limited but it will get better and more interviews will be done!

And ofcos,These days,you stand a better chance if you’re visiting friends,families etc! The world has to move on and that’s why they’re slowly opening dates for visiting visas!

Getting a student visa has always been relatively more difficult from Nigeria because of the high level of japa tendencies of our citizens. Adding a pandemic to the mix has only compounded issues. You cannot deny the fact that it is even more difficult with the pandemic. My point is that even when it is clear that conditions are not ideal and the likelihood of being denied is even higher, people are still trying their luck. You have to be smart to succeed. The people that I know that started the online option have the backing of their schools which have already made representation to the State department so that after their first year, they will easily be granted a visa. There are options out there. You will only look desperate if you try to push through now. Level of denial is currently high. Most schools are operating remotely even when on campus so what is the benefit of going there in person?
Even visiting friends and family is a long shot and trying your luck. How can you justify a vacation when you need to quarantine for 10 days upon entry? The official policy is that only essential travel is encouraged. The only people guaranteed entry are citizens and permanent residents and they are subject to testing and quarantine.

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Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Kettlecorn: 2:41pm On Jan 29, 2021
Spanishmilf:
Boss don’t derail nd discourage people
This is a student visa not corono thread

Why would you be discouraged when presented with information that can help you prepare well unless you have ulterior motives? We all know the situation on the ground now. There are serious students who were not deterred and have started their first year in American universities remotely from Nigeria. Yes, they are attending classes online from Nigeria due to the Covid situation. When covid is over, they will go and apply for their student visa and attend in person. Do you not think these people stand a better chance than those who want to go "try their luck" during the pandemic?

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Health / Re: Nigeria Has Secured 41m Doses Of COVID-19 Vaccine - Ehanire by Kettlecorn: 2:22pm On Jan 29, 2021
I will say this again and again. It is simple common sense. Even if they dash us 200 million doses, how will we distribute it with our epileptic electric supply. Vaccine that needs to be stored at -40C with specialized cooling equipment? Our elite will find their way to western countries and get it, as they are already doing. They don't care about the rest of the population.
Health / Re: Bill Gates To Nigeria: Wait For GAVI COVID-19 Vaccines by Kettlecorn: 8:08pm On Jan 27, 2021
bluefilm:


Obviously, you like deceiving yourself which is why it is so difficult for you to accept the truth even when it is staring at you boldly in the face.

I told you that the media is lying to you concerning this COVID brouhaha and when you want to prove your point, you still went back to the same lying media to pull your figures.

Where I was expecting you to list the hospitals that you personally know in Nigeria where COVID patients are dying like chickens, Or even name the hospitals where your own relatives who died of COVID were being treated prior to their demise, you continue to beat around the bush by pulling figures from the same lying media I have earlier warned you about.

I don't need to waste words with you anymore trying to let you know that this whole COVID madness and fear mongering is not worth it at all because obviously, you are so far gone in your delusion.

And nothing I say to you is going to change that.

You like being lied you and I don't think there's anything I can do about that so continue to enjoy the lies.

But I will leave you with this ONE thought: WHAT EXACTLY IS HAPPENING IN KOGI STATE CONCERNING THIS COVID situation? Why has Kogi State defied and demystified all these COVID lies?

I'll be so interested to hear your response to that.

You asked for evidence, I gave you easily verifiable tangible facts. Did you verify the deposit amount at the hospitals I mentioned? Of course not. I am even convinced you did not read what I wrote. Any reasonable person can tell what you're up to. Whatever your motives, it is clear that you are a denier just for the sake of denial and only projecting sentiment. As for Kogi state, I will hold you to the same standard. Bring out the information that Kogi has demystified COVID. We are in the 21st century where we deal with facts and figures and evidence not stupid political sentiment that is addressed to a gullible illiterate citizenry. A state where they don't even know how many people died from malaria last year. I have facts and figures about Kogi, one of the most poorly managed states in Nigeria. Since Covid started, they have tested less than 400 people as of this January. How can they tell when someone dies of covid? Utterly ridiculous. This is an exercise in futility and I refuse to spend more time on it.
Health / Re: Bill Gates To Nigeria: Wait For GAVI COVID-19 Vaccines by Kettlecorn: 7:31pm On Jan 27, 2021
ceaser:


Well, if Nigeria will do anything reasonable, they should either provide funds or source for such to ensure their own vaccine production. India produces it's own vaccine and a lot of medications. Nigeria produces some medications and we can sure ramp up out capacity to produce more if we have a willing and reasonable government. We have the expertise, what we lack is the funds.


India is the largest manufacturer of vaccines in the world. But all the manufacturers are private companies not govt owned entities. In Nigeria, we only need the government to provide stable electricity, water and guarantee security. The private sector can and will do the rest with good profits.
Health / Re: Bill Gates To Nigeria: Wait For GAVI COVID-19 Vaccines by Kettlecorn: 7:09pm On Jan 27, 2021
bluefilm:


Oga sah, why do you like beating about the bush so much?

I know that you have first hand information on the COVID situation in Nigeria and I believe that you have relatives who have died of COVID.

All I ask is for you to name at least ONE of such hospitals that you have now claimed accepts up to 5 MILLION naira before admitting and treating a COVID patient in Nigeria.

Can you now see what telling lies can do?

Once you tell a lie, then you have to tell another lie to cover the first lie and before you know it, you have yourself a web of lies.

This is exactly what happened to the people who INVENTED this whole COVID madness.

They lied that there is a very dangerous NOVEL VIRUS out there that is killing people anyhow.

When it turned out that there is nothing like such, they started counting every death as COVID death just to make up for the large numbers of deaths from COVID that they have earlier projected.

This is the lie that is still going on with all this nonsense story about SECOND wave this SECOND wave that.

You only need to wake up, take your little remaining senses out of CNN and then look around you and focus on reality to see things for yourself.


You assume that people here do not have access to information ba? Information that is public and readily available. Keep deluding yourself and dealing in conspiracy theories and them say them say. Go and ask how much deposit you need to pay at St Nicholas or Reddington to be admitted for covid; where you have good protocols for treatment. Why argue with CNN? What about our own local newspapers? Our local officials? Are they lying too?

Here is a quote from a Nigerian CDC official on twitter:
“We are reaching a critical level where our hospital capacity will no longer be able to cope with more serious Covid-19 cases,” Nigeria Centre for Disease Control Director-General Chikwe Ihekweazu said in a tweet on Monday. “Health workers will be forced to make tough decisions.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-12/nigerian-hospitals-struggling-to-cope-with-surge-in-covid-cases

Here is a quote from Vanguard Newspapers:
"We have observed that hospital admission is now guaranteed only after deposits of huge sums of money. Some private health facilities demand a deposit of between N2 million and N10 million to admit a COVID-19 patient, apart from the cost of treatment which could be up to N300,000 per day. It is alarming that presently in Nigeria, a COVID-19 patient who requires oxygen would, on the average, need 8 to 16 cylinders of oxygen daily at the cost of N20,000 to N50,000 per cylinder."

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/01/rising-cost-of-healthcare-in-nigeria-amid-covid-19/
Car Talk / Re: My New Horse by Kettlecorn: 6:49pm On Jan 27, 2021
nurey:


Then the 5.0L V8 for me then

Your money, your choice grin
They can both be had brand new at about the same price point ($40k, even before incentives) as Ford discounts its trucks all day everyday.
Health / Re: Bill Gates To Nigeria: Wait For GAVI COVID-19 Vaccines by Kettlecorn: 6:22pm On Jan 27, 2021
bluefilm:


Did you actually see anybody perishing in India and Brazil or are you making your assumption based on those obviously fake computer generated numbers on CNN?

Which hospitals have you gone to in Nigeria, and you saw people dying like chickens from COVID 19? Can you specifically name the hospital/s so that I can go there right now and see things for myself?

Please don't do yourself a great disservice by buying into the COVID scare.

COVID 19 may actually exist but one thing I know is that the casualty is not in any imaginable way close to the figures the lying media is busy publishing on a daily basis.

I have relatives who have died of covid. I know the situation first hand in Nigeria. The hospitals that can treat covid in Lagos are insisting on a 5 million Naira upfront deposit before they admit patients. Brazil and India stats are there for you to see on their government websites.
Health / Re: Bill Gates To Nigeria: Wait For GAVI COVID-19 Vaccines by Kettlecorn: 6:06pm On Jan 27, 2021
atonement12:
Who told you its a secret, and why the need for your own long lecture?
The point is that the technology was developed as a biological weapon...

That is incorrect in its entirety and just another internet conspiracy theory. The technology was developed to fight cancer. It is no secret. Why are you trying to scare people?
Car Talk / Re: My New Horse by Kettlecorn: 5:37pm On Jan 27, 2021
nurey:


I am not talking about horse power or acceleration I am talking about torque. The engine may be adequate as it's still new but for that category of vehicle I will stick to a NA V6 engine or a diesel

The 2.7l twin turbo develops 400lb ft of torque (same as the NA 5.0l v8 ) vs 265 lb ft in the 3.3l NA V6 engine. There is no other NA ford truck engine currently in production that has higher torque. 400 lb ft is more than enough to tow 9k pounds especially when coupled to the 10 spd auto.

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Health / Re: Bill Gates To Nigeria: Wait For GAVI COVID-19 Vaccines by Kettlecorn: 5:15pm On Jan 27, 2021
atonement12:
Do you really want knowledge? Then let me give a tip of what you are dealing with:
What they call a vaccine is technically NOT a vaccine- The 'action process' is not based on those of your normal vaccines.
What they are injecting people is not a weak strain of the virus as it is with a regular polio etc vaccines. Not enough time to lecture you on more details...

The knowledge is not secret sir! No need for long lecture on this. The vaccine is safe. The action process of mRNA is not a new development and has been around, researched and tested for more than a decade. mRNA vaccines have been developed for the flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus (CMV). It was deployed for SARS.

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Health / Re: Bill Gates To Nigeria: Wait For GAVI COVID-19 Vaccines by Kettlecorn: 5:06pm On Jan 27, 2021
bluefilm:


The question is do we even need any of their vaccines at all?

Vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc, enough exposure to sunlight and you are good to go.

If that is the case, people will not be perishing like flies in India and Brazil where the conditions are even more perfect for that regimen. People are dying in Nigeria from Covid at an alarming rate. Don't be fooled. Go to the hospitals and see for yourself. Even cases that could be managed with oxygen are hopeless because of scarcity. The bitter truth is that we can all pretend we don't need the vaccine because even if they dash us now, we cannot even administer it.

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Politics / Re: Kingsley Moghalu: Why Is Military In Orlu And Not Police? by Kettlecorn: 4:54pm On Jan 27, 2021
Our Constitution is stupid and messed up. The Governor is the chief security officer of the state but the army can operate in his territory without his knowledge or consent shocked. We copied our system of government but did not copy it well and left out aspects that achieve local accountability and balance of power. In the model we copied from, the police is under local and state government and troops cannot be deployed without a request from the governor.

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Health / Re: Bill Gates To Nigeria: Wait For GAVI COVID-19 Vaccines by Kettlecorn: 4:42pm On Jan 27, 2021
True talk from Bill Gates. Nigeria is not ready to buy any vaccines right now. It will be a huge waste of money. The Pfizer vaccine needs to be stored at -70C while Moderna requires about -20C. First, we do not have constant electricity. Second, we don't have the equipment or the logistical organization for this. We are in big trouble. Astrazenica, that can be stored at between 2 and 8 degrees centigrade may be possible in Nigeria with constant electricity. Bill Gates is absolutely right. We need to spend our money on fixing our electricity and logistics then we can accept free donated vaccines from the WHO. Right now, our government is not even concerned. High ranking officials and the rich are flying to first world countries to receive the vaccine. They don't care about you.

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Car Talk / Re: My New Horse by Kettlecorn: 11:50am On Jan 27, 2021
nurey:


Nice ride though

2.7L engine I guess with turbo even with that, this ride go slow die and towing grin I pray the transmission survives

On the contrary, the twin turbo 2.7l is one of the quickest in the lineup and tows up to 9,000lbs with a robust 10 speed automatic. It is faster than the 5 liter v8 and even the 6.7l diesel. But then, you can't cheat physics. Longevity is always a question mark for a souped up small engine. Top notch maintenance is a key factor in how long the engine will last.

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Family / Re: Bayo Adedeji, Wakanow CEO: I Pay My Chef N100k But Caught Him Stealing From Me by Kettlecorn: 6:13pm On Jan 22, 2021
smallsmall:



At the stage when he was caught stealing from his employer, he can no longer be considered a "workman", he is a THIEF and has lost all the "Rights of a Workman".
He should be arrested, prosecuted and jailed, for his actions (Stealing is still a jailable crime!)
By still paying his up to that point, is actually 'being nice'.

Go and read 'Labour Law' and you would see it there in black and White, the Terms and Conditions of Employment and how you can forfeit your Rights as an Employee, through such nefarious Acts.

You are conflating 2 different issues. The fact that you fire someone for stealing (or any other criminal act) does not forfeit the employees rights to compensation for time already worked (compensation accrued)/services rendered. Employment ends as of when the firing happens and the employer is still liable to pay for work done up until that point. That's the law. The employer did not do him a favor. In fact, he could have been sued if he did not pay up. In addition, did you notice that he took down the post? He could have been sued for defamation with that post. The criminal act of stealing is another matter entirely and should be addressed by the legal system. It does not cancel payment already owed. Completely different issue. Remember that the chef is innocent until proven guilty and in fact, there is no guarantee that the chef will be found guilty if charged to court.
Politics / Re: 127 Soldiers Resign From Nigerian Army by Kettlecorn: 11:21pm On Jan 21, 2021
flokii:
Nigerian Army is long gone.. buy weapons, kit the soldiers, na lie. All the pleas fell on deaf ears, instead they kept looting and stealing.

Now that thier morale is dead.. send the money you stole to fight in their place. Messed up country of thieves!

LOL, who wan die. Army is now no better than police. Nigerian Army where they count bullets for soldiers before going to the warfront. Each soldier will get 50 bullets and must account for each when they return because oga has chopped the money for ammunition. If care is not taken, 2 soldiers will share one gun. The soldiers will also fuel the APC out of their own pocket. BH will fire 100 bullets in one burst of fire while our soldiers are expected to fire 50 in one week at the war front shocked

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Car Talk / Re: Is 2018 Ford F250 6.7l Powerstroke Engine A Good Buy In Nigeria? by Kettlecorn: 11:07pm On Jan 21, 2021
bigbauer:


wow, this is insightful. I won't be towing, and less likely to haul much, I just love trucks, and intend to use it as a daily drive and yes, i travel a lot due to what I do. So I'll be moving across the country with it. Tundra was my first choice but has no diesel engine, I don't think driving a V8 petrol engine is a smart move and especially considering the fact that Tundra is a fuel guzzler, + it's dated features. I considered the F250 coz it's a Turbo Charged diesel engine, which means it can move when speed is needed. (At least before a car snatcher or kidnapper reach me make e sweat small).

You should note that all diesel engines manufactured for the US market require Ultra Low Sulfur diesel. Is this available in Nigeria? The F250 also uses/needs DEF fluid for the emissions systems to work properly (availability an issue?). A tank of DEF lasts anywhere from 3k to 6k miles depending on how you drive, YMMV. Vehicle will go into limp mode if you run out of DEF fluid and be limited to 50mph. It may even refuse to start after so many starts with no DEF fluid. A potential way around these issues is to delete the DPF/DEF exhaust system, run straight pipes and retune the engine but you need a very knowledgeable mechanic to do that. Or if you're lucky to find one, buy one manufactured for the Mexican market that lacks all the emissions stuff. Having said all this, it may be easier to buy a diesel Tacoma that lacks all the complicated emissions stuff and can run any type of diesel if you are determined to drive a diesel truck.

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Family / Re: Bayo Adedeji, Wakanow CEO: I Pay My Chef N100k But Caught Him Stealing From Me by Kettlecorn: 8:34pm On Jan 21, 2021
lekki1444:
nigga are you drunk on some alcoholic beverage ? they let thieves go in nigeria ? do you even come from nigeria ? thieves are burnt to death and lynched in nigeria. now i know you are just arguing just to argue

also you say the can of sardine i bought for 200 naira has a different value under the law ? lmaooo this guy s clearly insane

"Your method of reasoning is beyond me." Absolutely true!
Facts. The poster let a thief go to continue stealing without as much as an indication on his record. Some thieves are lynched in Nigeria, that's true, but in the process, innocent people are also lynched. No different from what the poster did. Jungle justice! Now if you don't know the difference between price and value, I really won't be obliged to explain any further. Case in point why established systems with trained people need to handle stuff like this.
In a country like Nigeria, those arguing for law and order and due process will seem insane but then, those passing judgement are the same who want to migrate to enjoy these same benefits in saner climates.
Family / Re: Bayo Adedeji, Wakanow CEO: I Pay My Chef N100k But Caught Him Stealing From Me by Kettlecorn: 6:50pm On Jan 21, 2021
lekki1444:
Your method of reasoning is beyond me. you want to tell me the guy who stole will not rather you deduct the price of stolen goods from his salary then being taken to the police station and locked up ? is this how you handle people ? all soft and timid like you are a white man ? let me tell you something ? i applaud that guy for what he did because even the white man who you worship would have made sure that guy ended up in prison. but that shows this guy is very humane and kind and considerate. he would have being well within his right to deduct the price of goods stolen and give him the rest in salary but the kind man let him have the goods and still paid him full worked salary. and what do you mean who determines the value of the goods stolen ? he was stealing sardines and tomatos and stuff and those things have receipts which tells you their value. wasnt like he was stealing the guys picasso paintings. who doesnt know the price of sardines ?

Sir, let me tell you something. Nigeria is called a "shithole" country, not just because we don't have electricity or running water or good roads or good functioning schools. Its also because the average Nigerian does not know/understand the duties of a citizen and does not realize nor care about the larger effects of their actions on society at large. We are still caught up in an 18th century jungle justice system where we think an individual can be the Judge, Jury and Executioner all in one even when we have written laws, organizations and systems that should decide outcomes. I am telling you that society at large is worse for it because we think we are being "kind" by letting a thief go. Nigeria is full of thieves because we let them all go, big and small thieves alike. As to your question "he was stealing sardines and tomatos and stuff and those things have receipts which tells you their value." No sir, what you paid for something does not necessarily determine its value under the law. This is why I say let the legal system handle it. We as average individuals are not equipped for this.
Car Talk / Re: Upsurge In Vehicle Theft At Gun Point In Lagos Is Worrying by Kettlecorn: 6:17pm On Jan 21, 2021
Litmus:


The table represents comparative prison population across those nations listed and not crime rate. And if you’re right about the high level of crime in Nigeria, on average compared to the other nations listed, then Nigeria’s low prison population is indicative of the reason.

My point is that you absolutely cannot draw any inferences from Nigerian crime stats, prison population included. There is absolutely no correlation between prison population and level of crime in Nigeria. I said most crimes go unreported in Nigeria so that implies that most crimes are not prosecuted and are unsolved and therefore implication is low numbers of incarceration = low prison population = low incarceration rate per capita. As a matter of fact, how many prisoners in Nigeria have actually been sentenced by a court? A large number are awaiting trial. I am willing to stake a years salary that even the prison population number you quoted is incorrect grin. The other countries included in your list have highly functioning justice systems that aggressively prosecute crimes both white and blue collar so it would appear that their crime rates are higher than Nigeria's. Your comparison is even not apples to apples because they have excluded people held in Jail and the Nigerian system doesn't make a distinction between prison and jail.
Family / Re: Bayo Adedeji, Wakanow CEO: I Pay My Chef N100k But Caught Him Stealing From Me by Kettlecorn: 5:50pm On Jan 21, 2021
lekki1444:
I think your head is paining you. he said he let him keep everything he stole that was inside his bag and still paid him for the work he had done. would it not be logical to tabulate everything he stole and deduct it from his salary and pay him the rest ? but he did not do that so yes he did him a favor by paying him his whole salary he had worked for

I will ignore your insults and focus on bringing out the key points. You cannot unilaterally decide to deduct from someone's salary the value of stolen items. Who decides the value of the items? It seems logical but its not legal. This is one distinction between our 18th century jungle justice society and how 21st century societies operate, which is where we profess to want to be. Legally, he is still on the hook to pay him for time worked.
The correct thing to do would have been to fire the chef as he rightly did, recover his items, prosecute the chef and pay him his salary! All legal and above board and the entire society at large benefits rather than whine on social media.

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