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raumdeuter:
Kamala does not want equal opportunities she wants equal outcomes

She somehow says both. The problem here is the semantics she uses. Kamala does say she wants equal opportunities. However, my problem here is she also says she wants equal outcome. That was why I raised the question. She emphasizes it.

Cococandy, kindly address the point and avoid insults me, because two can tango. What does she mean by EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND EQUAL OUTCOME. At least, what do you take from that? Since you're the rational citizen, I suppose you understand how this would be implemented. Because, i also assumes it's because the plan has been explained to you in detail, and you've chosen to vote because you believe the plan is feasible.

"what does it mean,'equality of oucome'?" That was the original question I asked. I've just listened to the interview, and it's a recurring theme I've noticed in her campaigns from about a year ago.

As you answer, take into consideration the moguls contributing to saints Kamala campaign. Take a good look at that list, then wonder if Kamala isn't sitting on your back with a carrot over your head.

raumdeuter:
Democrats have ruled 12 in the last 16yrs how many of these have they done? How many percentage of their own earnings are they paying as taxes?

If you want more in public coffers, you can volunteer to pay more, your tax bracket is just the minimum required, you can choose to pay more into it if you believe in what you preach

She will say it's the Republicans.. Let's wait...😂😂😂😂😂

budaatum:
Farage will not resign, and the party he leads can't exactly remove the whip. It does put egg on his face though, and will haunt him going forward.

Or, he's a racist who has always wanted the "immigrants" out of his "precious" country and got the perfect "fall guy" to take on the blame.. Ridiculous.. Annoying...

IjeBos:
You went from 'welfare is bad' to 'get it if u can'.
You're a study in intellectual dishonesty.

No. You're the one being dishonest here and not tackling the argument. Instead, you're ad hominem-ing him.. Since you're the kamala experts, can you tell us how you believe this would work?

Or, is it the same, "I'll clear corruption in two weeks(even though I have no plans yet), vote for me" kind of thing.

cococandy:
Exactly. The law says he can pay less than me because the law is in his pocket.

Or wait I thought you said she wanted to install communism? Now she intends to do nothing about it?

At some point you have to pick a side. It gets olds dancing to whatever tune you think will win the argument

You have validated all I said. No need for the needless back and forth

That's not what the law says.. Thats the principle of economics.. Do you have any, or the slightest idea what you're typing at all?

cococandy:
I know people are going to twist it to say she means because a neurosurgeon drives a Ferrari then a store clerk should too.

When equality of outcomes simply means that if a neurosurgeon shouldn’t die of hunger or lack of adequate healthcare then it should be the same for a low wage worker. Access to basic human needs shouldn’t be restricted to only the wealthy and high class.

So, can you explain how this can be done? How will this basic needs be distributed equally?

I'm most interested.....

budaatum:
The liars that set the nation on fire!

How in the world did an MP allow Andrew tate to mislead him? He should resign..

I've watched a few cut clips of Kamala talking about distribution of resources. She calls it equitable distribution if i remember correctly.

Can someone explain to me, cause I'm mostly dumb, how she intends to, or what she means by that?

Sounds like "equality of outcome" to me. Sounds like co.....

Let me wait first...

bemeruca:
AmazonTopaz is yet another person schooling you on this.

The original Palestinians are the Jews and not the Arabs. This is a fact you cannot counter

Are there only jews in Isreal?

IjeBos:
Huh?

Are you saying the high caliber professors from Harvard et al., are dumb because they are anti antisemitist?

AmazonTopaz:
Exactly you get.


What "Genocide?"

The one I seeonly TikTok and Aljazeera.. hahaha...

IjeBos:
These are some of the brightest minds in the US. Harvard, Columbia, Penn, MIT and Yale students. And you are arguing that they are stupid to understand what is going on in the Middle East and that they get their opinions from TikTok?
C'mon. Be realistic.

That they are some of the smartest minds is in fact why they are protesting. Our policy vis a vis Israel makes little sense.

But they are equally people from the same class, who oppose what you're saying, so? What's that fallacy called again?

AmazonTopaz:
The University student protesters are infact the KKK.

There is nothing peaceful when protesting to cause inconvenience to people and destroying property. He was right.

Also the article wasn't a lie at the time he wrote it the Palestinians rejected another two state solution deal. If October 7th didn't convince you that Shapiro was right I don't know what will. They attacked Israel first and are indeed too "battle minded" for peace. Shapiro didn't lie.

Thank God that Walz is no different on this issue. So a lose-lose situation for leftists.
Any young Dem who is Pro-Palestine over Israel needs to read a damn book and get of TikTok induced Islamic propaganda.

Imagine saying "Nigerians are too tribalistic" for them to govern themselves as an idiotic statement when the reality is that the statement is true.

Any young Dem who is Pro-Palestine over Israel needs to read a damn book and get of TikTok-induced Islamic propaganda.

hmmmm..
what about the "Genocide?"

basilico:
Those are men bashing up women in 46 seconds.
What is this fool telling us? Pseudoscience.
They are in the gold medal bracket as I write this This article I quote is vague about the tests these two failed. They have XY chromosome, instead, they are talking about testosterone instead of These are men who should be fighting fellow men

What would you call someone with an XXY chromosome or someone with an XO chromosome? Listen ogbeni, I also wouldn't want the likes of Caitlyn Jenner, participating in women's sports or beauty pageants and winning "Woman of the Year." But, you should recognize that, just because a woman has muscles, doesn't mean she's a man. Or, that a guy without muscles is a woman.

If they are indeed XY, then they would have extra punching power compared to women of the same weight class. And, that would be unfair to the women. But, no confirmation had been made yet. Given the IOC is inclined to the left politically, I reckon no further investigations would be carried on.

A crippled individual is given a separate class of sport because, obviously, you don't want a crippled competing with the likes of CR7. It's obvious, so obvious, I'm tempted to ask you if your head is an empty bas-ket.

IjeBos:That antisemitic word is thrown out too much.
Look at the protests going on in Israel, is that antisemitism?

Israel is not the US. We have to be able to make choices that are best for the US. Look it our troops and soldiers are in the Middle East again, because Netanyahu decided he wanted to kill someone in Iran. That's nuts. Too much going on and it seems Netanyahu wants to stoke the fires of a full-blown multi-country Middle East war because he knows the US will always back his stupid decisions.

I wonder if when you watch the news, your eardrums only pick vibrations that say "U.S. good, everybody Bad."

Here's a snippet from good old Wiki:

The United States of America was the first country to recognize the nascent State of Israel.[1] Since the 1960s, the American Israeli relationship has grown into a mutually beneficial alliance in economic, strategic and military aspects.[1] The United States has provided strong support for Israel. It has played a key role in the promotion of good relations between Israel and its neighbouring Arab states—notably Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt—while holding off hostility from countries such as Syria and Iran.

In turn, Israel provides a strategic American foothold in the region as well as intelligence and advanced technological partnerships in both the civilian and military worlds. During the Cold War, Israel was a vital counterweight to Soviet influence in the region. [2] Relations with Israel are an important factor in the U.S. government's overall foreign policy in the Middle East, and the U.S. Congress has placed considerable importance on the maintenance of a supportive relationship.

Kelechi009:
I doubt a lot of things that you say, because you often make a lot of ignorant posts and put it out as facts, rituals are done in every religion and not about being poor or rich. that's how you came to a nonsense conclusion some months ago that only Nigerians sell their body for sex & Nigerian men are the main reason for prostitution until I debunked that nonsense.
.

The issue here is not whether it exists or not. Can you prove that those rituals work? That's the intent of the thread, which I believe is titled, "You cannot make money with rituals," and not, "Rituals don't exist."

As a fervent follower of the r/occult on Reddit thread, the way spells are talked about as bringing money is entirely different. Compared to the Nigerian style of magically bringing money out of nothing. A jobless man in Nigeria is looking for spells to become rich. How? You're doing money rituals with human beings, but you don't even have a job. And you say, "Rituals exist." Have you seen anybody do rituals and suddenly become rich overnight? If you have, tell me so that I might go and worship him.

That's what Gerrad59 is addressing. Not that rituals don't exist.

ono:
That’s why the “Paralympics” was created for them.

These “abnormal (respectfully)” people should have their own unique type of sports created for them. Full stop.

we might as well give them their own state, and call it United States of Abornomal people.

Are you willing to let go of a larger chunk of your income to sponsor the initiative? hahahahha. The cashier is like "We're deducting 5% for the abnormal society."

ono:
Bull crap! This is where "science" has taken mankind - over the years. Confusion everywhere. As far as I can see, these group of people you have described here (if they are around and living with humankind, they're definitely weird and abnormal cases) should seek any kind of surgical or medical health suitable for them, if available at all. They should not be part of "normal" people living a normal life in this world. They should not partake in games, sports etc.

Because some "discovery" is backed by science does not make it mandatory, required and acceptable to everyone in the society. It is because we are accepting and accommodating all known ills, abnormalities, queers and evils in this world that we are where we are today. Stop this evil DEI now!!

Should cripples, blind, sickle celleds people also not be allowed to participate in "Normal" human activities, too?

TheSourcerer:
hi hello hope you are having a good morning so far?

I'm okay, my bro.. how you doing?

basilico:
A person with XY chromosomes is a man. The two guys who will fight for a gold medal were banned in New Delhi last year for failing a gender test. They have XY chromosomes. They are chicks with dicks
Science is precise. A man is a man and is a man.

We don't really know the makeup of their chromosomes. But they could be one of the following:


1) 46, XX DSD

People in this category have female internal organs but develop male external genitals. If the athletes fall in this category, then they could indeed be females with 46, XX DSD who have Aromatase deficiency. Aromatase deficiency occurs when an enzyme, Aromatase, fails to convert male hormones to female hormones. The result is a shortage of female hormones and an overdose of male hormones.

The deficiency caused them to appear as females pre-puberty but take on male characteristics during puberty when their unconverted male hormones become active.

2) 46, XY DSD

Here, we get the opposite. They could have XY chromosomes and their external organs are underdeveloped or completely female. They will have fully developed, underdeveloped, or absent internal testis. The condition manifests in three ways:

Malfunctioning testes: The testes don't function properly leading to the underproduction of testosterone, which triggers the development of female external Instruments, deformed male Instruments, or somewhere in-between.

Testosterone malformation: In this case, testorone levels are low.

Testosterone malfunction: Testosterone levels are normal, but aren't properly used up in the body. In childhood, the child may have male or female external Instruments but, as they approach and pass through puberty, it develops into proper male Instruments. Here the individuals have normal levels of testosterone as seen in males.


3) Extra one or short by one chromosome.

Cases like Down syndrome, Klinefelter syndrome, and so on. But, the athletes don't fall in any of these.

GRACEGLORY:
Bitcoin functions as a computer protocol. Nuclear war is incapable of destroying it. Indeed, as people recover the ability to use computers, if there be a war, they'd find it easier to adopt bitcoin rather than recreate their previous financial institutions.

I doubt so. You mean if the skilled technicians who build and mine them don't all die..

BITcoin, (not crypto) is no different from picking pebbles from the seashore and selling as artifacts on the market. No one is using BITcoin for anything.. It's value is solely based on the persistent coolective belief in it.

Oga Jarus... You dey trend again😂... Bad boy!

minasu190:
No,I don't think she's perfect, nobody is perfect,it's her hard work am talking about here!

If she didn't have sense, she wouldnt be fishing for periwinkle.

GRACEGLORY:
Bitcoin is bigger than Trump, good that Trump survived 2 bullets, as a matter of fact, it was divine. Bitcoin will survive world wars. Doesn't it have the nature of GOLD? They hoard Gold during war. Gold is GOD's money, Bitcoin is digital Gold.

Leave the charts, look from the Psychology of trading, and #BTC cycle... This time isn't different. NEW ATH Soon.

Plus, Alt season around the corner.

How would Bitcoin survive world wars?

Juliearth:
A couple cohabiting offers a number of benefit. One of such benefit is the fact that you you get to understand your partner better. If he or she is faking initially, cohabiting would bring to light their schemes. It is also a useful tool is testing compatibility, especially if this period is invested in thoughtful discourse and not just coitus.

However, I would strongly proscribe to this. A wise man once posited that if you can milk the cow for free, you may not see the need in buying the cow. Same analogy can be applied here. Cohabiting with your partner may delay the process of marriage. The man, most especially, may not see the need in doing the needful. If care is not taken, the process of being a baby mama/baby papa may be initialized further putting the couple in a state of rigmarole.

If I had a say, I would prescribe that she puts up with you for the time being, but with house hunting in view. She works and earns well, thus she can be able spare some cash for rent.

I am also bothered about the needs you highlighted. I'm talking about the cooking, cleaning et al. Is that why you want her around or you truly seek genuine companionship. Are you with this lady because of the potential benefits you stand to gain from her. Are you a user? Are you trying to milk the cow without acquiring it? If you so much desire companionship and she is a good woman, why not start off the marriage process?


All the best!

hmmmm..... deep!!!

pocohantas:
My problem with you is you start a narrative then deflect.

We can't keep repeating "It's an Apple." "No, it's a Peach." Since such kinds of arguments are known to have one final destination (pun intended). Hence, my comparative approach aims to infer and deduce. Otherwise, it would be a "who gets a mouth pass" kind of argument. And, that never leads to knowing the truth.

But yeah, maybe I do. My fingers or mouth can't keep up with my mind, unfortunately.

The summary is, a divorced man who is tired of washing his clothes and can't afford a dry cleaner or washing machine in 2024 is not a spec for most young ladies. Whether they can secure wives faster than their wives wasn't the topic!!

Thank you

Yes, Mama...

pocohantas:
Apples and oranges. How did you mention Jarùs and Odanz in this conversation?

1) Jarùs and Odanz are not divorcees.

Yes, you're right. The point I was trying to get across was that women still get attracted to men in marriages, not to mention those who are divorced. Statistically speaking, It's a lot easier for men to jump back into the dating pool than it is for women. To add Icing on the cake, Divorced men can secure women younger than their ex-wives. I don't care about the circumstances around it, the fact remains, married men, or divorced men, don't automatically lose value in the dating market. What's that thing wives complain about? oh, it's "He's chasing younger women?" Common!

2) Jarùs was set to marry the 2nd wife.

So? look at this from the perspective of the second-to-be wife. What goes on in the head of a woman that she's willing to take the position of number 2 or side chick and be committed to said married man?

3) Jarùs is not broke. He is a highly skilled professional.

Brokenness is relative. As I pointed out to Buky. Brokeness compared to who? It's left for you to define what you mean by "broke."

4) Odanz might be broke, but he has Twitter fame. Something that is an allure to the girl who is on the same platform.

Oh, we have shifted the goalpost now to fame. I didn't automatically get chicks flocking around me even though I was popular in the department and had remarkable grades. No. The guy who was able to go to Dubai and come back with an iPhone 6s in 2015 was the one that girls called "daddy" in my presence. And, even many years after, they still do. "Broke" divorcees still get women. I don't know what world you're living in?

5) Odanz seems to be a young guy. You can get away with a lot as a young guy. As you get older more is expected.

Let's not forget the society we live in, Poco. It's not the "land of the free" where the average age gap is 2-5 years. It's more like 10-20 years here. So, a 40-year-old divorcee isn't exactly off the dating pool yet. In fact, all he has to do is put up an appearance and attend any church. He will find babes ages 20-44 who will be interested in him.

6) Jarùs gave his first wife 5m to placate her into accepting the second wife. OP here called 250k annual rent HIGH.

Relative to the lady, it still doesn't make him broke. Relative to Elon Musk, Dangote is broke. That doesn't mean Dangote isn't appealing to ladies of lower status than him. My point is, to you, he might be broke. To the lady in question, very much not so!

7) None of the women attached to the above men were expected to come cohabit to cook, clean and wash.

For Odanz, sure. For Jarus, I don't think so.

8 ) Given that you are obviously mixing up married men and divorcees. Do know that a lot of these ladies love the thrill if it is to chop from outside. That is because the first wife is inside doing the work. Tell them to come inside and take over pounding akpu and majority will run.

I do. But, that's not the only factor at play here.

Divorcees could be a catch. But a divorcee who can't do his laundry himself and still cannot afford washing machine or drycleaner to handle it, is definitely not in this spectrum for most ladies. Stop the delulu.

How many single guys do all the above themselves? they still get women! The vast majority of women go into marriages expecting to do these chores---especially the ones who can't afford 250k per month. Again, a gentle reminder, that the dynamics of the dating pool are very different from what it is in the West. The women who don't expect to do the aforementioned expect to contribute 50% to the household expenses.

Any guy, except in a few rich cities, that earns 100k per month in Nigeria will attract women like mango attracts flies. Heck, I was earning 20k some time ago and still attracted women. Lots and lots of em. No delulu here. You're just using a Western dynamic to judge a Nigerian matter. Na you suppose warm eba.

Divorced man has already chop and clean mouth, probably with multiple ladies, you say "he's not hot cake."

bukatyne:
1. Never mentioned the lady is rich and the guy is broke because he thinks a salary that can't pay N250k rent per annum is 'decent'.

2. A broke divorced man with kids, a spec? Where? In the sexual dating market as with in life, there are times a stages for everything. A 26-year-old broke guy is cute; a 30-year-old broke man is upcoming; a 45-year-old broke man is big trouble. A 20 Yr old uneducated, jobless girl is a baby girl; a 26 Yr old uneducated jobless girl is a red flag; a 35 Yr old uneducated jobless woman is a liability.

Don't remind me of sir jaus abi what was his name abeg. Oh, OH, don't also remind me of the infamous Odanz who was "broke" but securing women left and right, even one from London who came down here to collect D... common, stop playing. Divorcee men get the upper hand, and we both know why.

3. No 1 applies. And at no point did I say he should pay her rent. Like Poco said, the girl should go back to her relatives, and other friends or get a shared facility.

Awwwwnn... Poor girl. she should quit her job and move back in with her parents? Or, should her parents move to where she's staying so she move in with them after they move in? LOL.. common now.... This is becoming funny.

4. I haven't broke shamed him either. It is like saying Trump is old. Am I 'age-shaming' him?

ahnn ahnn... changing the Narrative, ehnn aunty buky.

5. Who is Saida? The OP's focus should be to improve his circumstances financially and bringing up his kids.

"Before he talks to me, he should send me 20m" something like that...

I didn't catch where Op said "I'm struggling financially"... If I can't afford a Telsa, does that mean I'm "struggling"??

6. Rich clean married men are hot cake. Except to women (especially my Yoruba sisters) who wants to relief themselves sexually.

hehehehe.... let's just wink at each other and assume, you know I know that you know what we are doing...let's toast to it, here's to all the ladies---single ladies currently dating a married man hoping he'd divorce his wife soon. They be singing, "Just leave your lover, leave [her] for me..." Cheers!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=182TRJq9Zt8

7. In your dreams

"Dream, dream dream,"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbU3zdAgiX8

budaatum:
Yet, here is you making it an issue because of the sustained Kamala bump.

Karleb:
It's a simple word with simple meaning.

So, in what way will the man be "leading" the woman?

Karleb:
I don't see how this is an issue. She's a member of the family, she should have as much rights as her partner. Financial contributions or not. But then, I guess I have little idea about how many Nigerian families are run.

The only thing that should not be sacrificed under any condition is leadership. It belongs to the man!

What does it mean, leadership? I'm very curious.

bukatyne:
This is beyond 'giving' her body.

Except she doesn't have a good plan for herself, the OP is not a spec.

A man who thinks that N250k annual rent is 'on the high side' is broke. N250k rent in itself is cheap meaning an accommodation that isn't 'decent' or in the outskirts of town (except they are not in a capital city).

Why would a virgin be with a broke divorcee with kids? If he were young like her, we would say they are starting life together.

He is already second hand and he doesn't have the finance to make up for it? He doesn't have systems in place and is looking for someone to do chores and pay bills?

A red billboard for a single virgin (well, I am speaking for myself).

Interesting...

The man who has his own place is broke, but the lady who 250k is too much for is rich abi? Rent of 250k is cheap.. Tell that to the lady that now has to squat with OP..

The OP is not a spec? To you abi to the lady?

The OP is broke? Is he the one that cannot afford 250k rent? Are you suggesting, because they are rubbing genitals, the man should take over her rent?

He has bad traits, sure. But, let's not bring that broke-shaming nonsense into a matter. When obviously, the "broke" person here is the lady.

Is it that you ladies no dey touch grass every once in a while? Is every bodies financial situation the same? Or are u the "my value is in my beauty" saida---what's her name self... type of woman?

I know it sounds enticing to say "second-hand value" but, that's not what the psychology studies say. Married men are hot cake. This i can confirm from my anecdotal experiences having worked at a hotel in the past.

Broke or not, the man is of a higher social status than the woman.