₦airaland Forum

mannobi:
May we not labour in vain. I remember last year when my friend was at the rccg choir left the camp few minutes to the end only to be told that pastor adeboye wife ordered all the choir should be given #20,000 each. The thing pained my friend because our colleague and his wife got.

Are you people OK at all? All the money your choir friend donated to the church in all that the no pass Naira 20,000? And this isn't to add all of his other expenses like transportation cost, clothing, and miscellaneous. If he had left that scam a long time ago, he would have saved himself so much more than 20,000.

By the way, Jesus Christ of Israel was not a descendant of Solomon since Solomon was eliminated by God of Israel as possible like for the King forever from the blood of David. The genealogy in the book of Matthew likely belongs to the man, Joseph, and not the person of Jesus Christ of Israel..

DeGLORIOUS:
What is it to boast of the north?

There is nothing to boast of in all of Nigeria -- all 774 local government areas that make up the Country -- so stop making it seem as though only one region is responsible for all the trauma that is fhe nation today. 🥱🥱🥱🥱

IMAliyu2:
✓ Yeah, I was clarifying, the other commenter was lying about understanding Arabic, and trying to justify the North's failures towards it's children.

I get you now. I mean I don't understand why the fixation with reading and writing in Arabic when it does not translate to actual comprehension and speaking of material and speech in said language.

ogascomax:
✓ The facts that he did it in a weird manner has nothing to do with love. I won't kneel to propose to a woman. Does that mean I don't love her. Everybody will not follow the conversational way and I will not do that.
Many proposed with drama and today the relationship or marriage is no where, dead.

There has never been law or rule mandating kneeling during proposals. Your particular fixation with that is all you. What OP, however, described is disrespectful behavior towards someone he wants us to believe he intends to marry and expect a good life with. Or maybe not.

SIRTee15:
➜Your case is beyond be careful. It's now confirmed U read the bible upside down.
This is the preceding verse.... Paul is admonishing fellow brethren to put on the armour of God against the devil!!! That is a spiritual armour and not physical.
In subsequent verses he explained why....Our adversaries are not mortal men with flesh and blood but spiritual wickedness!!!
Thereafter Paul now listed other weapons needed to fight the enemy
This heretic will come here to tell me Paul wanted to put on armor of God and sword of the spirit to fight the Roman officers.

See desperate attempt to deviate, abeg! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Again...
1. Did Paul, who not only boasted of his Roman citizenship but also submitted himself to the Romans to be tried by them rather than his own people, inform you that in so doing he submitted himself to this spiritual wickedness he mentioned?

2. He clearly said he wrestled not against individuals --- flesh and blood.( There is no report of him singling out individuals as his enemies in any of his letters.) So, who do you think?

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P.S. The only one capable of, in fact, putting on the armor of God as described in that same book of Books is the Lord. The insistence that Paul's statement, put on the armor of God carries some spiritual connotation, which then applies to spirits and whatever else you imagine for yourselves there is ludicrous. Jesus Christ of Israel never sent His followers out to fight or battle spirits or demons.

SIRTee15:
✓ Who was Paul referring to when he said spiritual wickedness.
✓ Who did Paul had in mind when he said ' we wrestled not against flesh and blood'.

1. Did Paul who not only boasted of his Roman citizenship but also submitted himself to the Romans to be tried by them rather than his own people inform you that in so doing he submitted himself to this spiritual wickedness he mentioned?

2. He clearly said he wrestled not against individuals --- flesh and blood.( There is no report of him singling out individuals as his enemies in any of his letters.) So, who do you think?

DeGLORIOUS:
Fear north. Boko haram North, illiteracy North, Rich people North, poor people North, highest presidents North. The north is its own enemy. North is the cancer of Nigeria

. You think what you find in the south is anything to boast of?

ednut1:
The northern guys can write in Arabic. Is that still illiteracy?

Nonsense! If a Northerner cannot communicate in the language, of what use or real value is this claim that he can write in Arabic?

oglalasioux:
➜They can read and write in Arabic.
➜ Most Hausa words that has to do with commerce, government and religion are Arabic words. The naira beyond 20 naira are actually Arabic words.
➜ What the northerners have failed to do has been their inability or unwillingness to teach science in Arabic to their children. 90% northern children can recite the Quran which is no small feat. Northern Nigeria children are not illiterate.

1. Again, they cannot speak the Arabic language, making it meaningless to claim they can read and write in Arabic. The main goal of learning any language is to gain fluent communication in that language. However, when that is missing, then it makes no sense to claim one

2. That means absolutely nothing because the average Hausa man or woman cannot speak the Arabic language. Some words are in another language DOES NOT confer proficiency in that language on the one.

3. Why teach science in Arabic at all? Why not teach science and technology in the Hausa language, like the Arabs — they boast of a higher rate of literacy than any Hausa community can— teach science, technology, the Arts, etc., in their Arabic language?

Again, literacy has nothing to do with teaching or communicating in a foreign language, but the act of comprehending educational material in whatever primary language one clings to.

oglalasioux:
Can the children in northern Nigeria read and write in Arabic? If yes they are not illiterate.

Unfortunately, there is no evidence that the children can speak the Arabic language, negating any claims that they can read and write in Arabic.

IMAliyu2:
➜The average Northern child can't communicate in Arabic. Due to Islamic education many receive, they can Read and Write in the Arabic script/letters, but can't understand the language.
➜ So that means if you write Hausa for example in the Arabic script/letters they can read it and maybe understand it.

This implies a lack of literacy in the Arabic language.

2. I don't follow at all.

LordReed:
➜This is like saying the TV being off is also a cable channel.

This does not compare to what I stated, though. There is a spectrum as far as belief in the existence of a deity across religious people. The absence of a belief does not negate religiosity. A TV is still a TV whether it is off or on.

LordReed:
➜I think I was prepared for whatever came out of it. Plus I was determined to follow through with the outcome, it just so happened that the outcome was atheism. I think in practice believers and atheists are not much different is just that believers can be persuaded into really terrible ideas more easily than atheists can.

This, I concur with; I have always been of the notion that most who refer to themselves as atheists are merely religious individuals at the end of the religious spectrum, where they claim subscription to no deity.

Celestialsword:
➜How, nearly all the middle east countries are Islamic countries and they are doing well.
➜ It's only in Africa that you see Islamic societies living wretched Islamic countries has progressed,in terms of economic development than most European countries e.g Qatar,Saudi,UAE, Iran,Iraq, just to mention a few

1. This is far from the truth as almost half of them are no better than Nigeria. There are 15 Muslim countries in total in the Middle East.

2. Lies! Iran and Iraq are not that much better than Nigeria. When we consider the Arab League countries, we see that the situation in well over half of those countries remains dire.

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My guess is that you are from the Northern states and you think that covering up the situation somehow helps your people but all it actually does is help cover up the atrocities of your politicians and religious gods of men — imams, sheikhs, pastors, etc.— who use your heads, and that of our children to eat googooroo and ekpa. Those millions children in the north without a comprehensive education — out-of-school children as well as those in schools where much of they learn is removed from their daily realities —reciting texts and scripts they will never be able to apply to developing and upgrading their lives in their homes and communities are not educated but denied an education worthy of the life they deserve.

Celestialsword:
✓ Wrong, they can write,as they started from their formative years.They are proficient with it.

Being able the read and write in a language should equate to the ability to communicate --speak as well-- proficiently in that language. This is not the case, though, as a majority of Northerners— children included — can't communicate fluently/proficiently in the Arabic language.

Celestialsword:
✓ Yes,an average northerner can understand and communicate effectively with the Arabic language.
✓ Being informed and staying abreast of happenings and events both locally and around the globe is not gossips but education

You are lying! I watched a video not long ago where even the big men in sokoto had to rely on translators when communicating with delegates from Saudi Arabian. The younger ones also watched on amused and could not engage.

2. For my village, there are many old people who sit around pretending to discuss international and local happenings. But any individual who it's with them to listen will quickly realize the discussion compared more to gossip than a literacy discussion.

Safyqueen:
✓ These are lie from the pit of hell. Those children from the north will easily write their name in Arabic.
Is English their fathers language? Does that stop them from being an able entrepreneur or an engineer or a great researcher? some naive but acclaimed sophisticated people thinks English is everything and the only indices for being educated.
✓ No wonder, one useless bagger from China who can neither write nor speak English will come to Nigeria and continue to Lord it over the citizens due to this kind of English slavery mentality people think that every white man is an English man.

So, the average Northern child can communicate fluently in Arabic -- speak with ease the Arabic language-- is what you are trying to have us believe, right

2. The reason such a beggar can achieve such is only that the level of literacy is indeed appalling in those communities and areas that lack the skills to build bridges and repair infrastructure for themselves.

By the way, Literacy isn't about whether one can or cannot speak English.

Celestialsword:
✓ The fact that you can't read,write or speak ENGLISH LANGUAGE doesn't mean you're an illiterate.
The northerners are schooled in Islamic education as majority of them can read write and speak with it fluently.
To me, they are not illiterate, they are abreast with local and world events as both local and international Media has Islamic coverage
✓ An old Hausa Muslim in the north that doesn't understand the English language is well informed about local and international happenings than an old Man or woman in the east

1. So, the average Northern child can communicate fluently in Arabic -- speak with ease the Arabic language-- is what you are trying to have us believe, right

2. What has being informed about international gossip to do with literacy?

Emeskhalifa:
Change it to can read and write in English. An average northern child can read and write in Arabic Ogar

So, the average Northern child can communicate fluently in Arabic -- speak with ease the Arabic language-- is what you are trying to have us believe, right?

madridguy:
✓ Definition of illiterate: unable to read or write.
I still don't know why the North always top this list despite the fact that majority of Northerners can read and write in Arabic language.
This is a region that has a working system before the arrival of the colonial master. They have their schools already and this is the reason till tomorrow the Nigeria Army motto is written in Arabic.

Read and write in Arabic i.e. communicate fluently using the Arabic language or recite the Arabic Quran?!

njokuuche77:
✓ You’re overreaching. I never said proposals equate to respect, I said respect shows in how you treat your partner beyond the ring. Some people value grand gestures, others value simple sincerity.
✓ My wife understood my intent, accepted it joyfully, and we’ve built something solid. If it bothers you, maybe it’s not about me, it’s your own expectations you’re wrestling with. Let’s not confuse simplicity with neglect.
✓ I’ve seen grand proposals get rejected publicly, roses, saxophones, crowd, and still the woman said “no.”

You aren't making sense. The woman desire the ring. You belittle and disrespect her in giving her the ring, yet you expect that you would treat her better beyond the ring? And you folks have wonder why women now turn on you eventually?

2. You disrespected your wife while giving her the ring and you want us to believe she was OK with the disrespect? 🥱🥱🥱

3. This ain't nothing about proposals but about the respect you have for your so-called partner abi na wife. 🥱🥱🥱

Hisroyalbadmeat:
No be only respect dey respirocal, Love too dey respirocal, Wata Bam Bam

Love cannot exist without respect. From the details she provided, her husband respected her enough to consider her business the same as his desire for a new car. That is what love is equally about.

njokuuche77:
✓ Ridicule? That’s your own interpretation. My wife and I aren’t performing for society, we’re building something real.
Not every proposal has to go viral. Respect isn’t in how you kneel, it’s in how you show up daily after the ring is on.

Proposals have nothing to do with respect but fancy. So, don't worry about those and focus on the fact that the claims made in the OP are entirely disrespectful to anyone particularly to someone one plans to marry. 🤔

If in fact you treat your wife in the manner described in the OP, please be certain not to come crying victim when that pot finally boils over.

ogascomax:
✓ How do people that loved themselves behave or proposed? They guy was supposed to kneel on the floor, with other surprises while the girl was supposed to stand on a mountain top then with a parachute coming down to meet the guy, then she viewing massive billboard with the inscription will you marry me.
My friend go sit one place if you no get better things to say.

Love does not exist without respect and consideration. Forget what you think of proposals but when a man has little regard for the feelings, life and decisions of his partner, he is heading no where near love.

What the OP wrote indicates a general lack of respect for the woman and hence absolutely no love for her. He cares about himself and not the relationship or even the woman. It is almost like he is telling us he is managing her. How long do you think she will let him continue to manage(manipulation involved of course) her before she open eye for him? The sad is when he comes pretending he was a victim in all of this, he will forget to mention the many times he disrespected and belittled her

Saviola86:
✓ I did my introduction last week and didn't even propose to my fiancee.

2 weeks before the introduction, I visited her at the new place she and her parents moved to and as we were talking, I just told her parents that I will be coming with my people in two weeks time for introduction. My babe was surprised and just laughed. The parents have been my friends for many years so it was easy to talk and relate with them.
Last week, I came with my people and the introduction was done.
No will you marry me, no ring, just straight to business.

This isn't about going down on one knee to propose and all that sort but respecting your partner enough to respectfully ask if she will also choose you for marriage at that point in time. You claim you literally shoved marriage at your girl and her parents and they accepted. You disregarded her life and plans in making your own decision there. Hope you will not be mad if years down the line, they too literally shove divorce at you or something.

emmyN:
✓ Why would anyone want to get married to someone who doesn't desire them though?

Same reason people like this man look for relationships with only women manipulate and train. They are all trying to compensate and meet emotional needs. Yes, even those who manipulate others in relationships lie the man do so as a way to fulfill emotional needs, such as attention, affection, or validation, by controlling how others perceive and interact with them.

Chilipepper:
✓ "I never wooed my woman also. Anytime she asks abt when I would propose, I smile.
In May, I asked if they sold wedding rings in Abk. She said yes. Asked her to go there. Told me the price, & I sent it, she bought it herself and fixed it. Got married last Thursday. It only works when the woman genuinely desires you. You'd regret it if you try it with a woman who doesn't and that's a positive regret".

And when this woman finally realizes na she been dey carry this relationship for her head and chooses to call it quits years into the marriage, this one go come dey play victim.

shekauvsbuhari:
You committed no offense. You probably paid because of fear and ignorance. No papers like that.
Do you havePOLICE CLEARANCE CERTIFICATE?
That's the valid paper you should get when you buy used cars as used.
You can get it from the major police station in the town with the papers you used to buy the car.
You pay some money and police will go through your papers and issues it when satisfied that it's not stolen.
Th

Police station na department of motor vehicle for Nigeria?

Lexusgs430:
✓ The key problem is lack of trust and sincerity......
People in Nigeria think, money is stored under the pillow in raw pound sterling.......
The man/woman might have used credit card, to fund the trip (and this money MUST be paid back)......

So long as a person is where he has a means to pay it back, and the time to, he or she can and should. Nothing wrong with taking out a reasonable loans that works for the individual's capability.

ibedun:
✓ What class are you talking about? We are all low class as far as UK is concerned and that includes all the thieves we call politicians. they are not respected and honoured.

Even a homeless man in abroad has better opportunity than a homeless man in Nigeria. This is a fact!