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ViceGovernor:
■ Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

That statement you lifted was made of the God of Israel — YHWH — who is also written to have sworn that the descendants of His Servant Israel are His ONLY inheritance in the land of men. Are you an Israelite that you quote that claim made of the God?

Additionally, the man whose words you quoted claimed the powers that ruled over the people of the nation of Judah— the Jews — who are a subset of Israel. (The Jewish nation, Judah, was comprised of only the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi.) At the time of his writing, the powers were the Romans, but before the Romans were the Greeks, the Persians, and also the Babylonians, all of them as installed over the land of Judah by God of Israel Himself. We know this because they were the four beasts that were prophesied to rule over Judah spoken of by Jeremiah — who even mentioned Cyrus by name—, Isaiah, and then Daniel. So, where are you attempting to go with this, and how does it relate to your Nigeria?

Inosky:
I'm sure this man needs a rehab, they won't take a swift action now until it escalates.

Rehab or jail for scamming you all?

Lovenorth:
It has changed Dubai

What about Yemen, Afghanistan, Sudan, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Pakistan, etc? Are you certain what changed Dubai was Islamic law and not some other laws?

ViceGovernor:
■ Do you believe there is a God or not?

There are many of them out there. In Nigeria alone, there are over 40 Deities in Nigeria— Nigerian gods. Which one is it you claim to believe in?

ViceGovernor:
■ Do you believe God exists?

There are over 4000 different deities out there claimed by men. In Pentecostal Christianity alone, there are over 45,000 different denominations all with contradictory tales describing what we are told is the same deity. So be specific.. which one?

Nigerians, both in the north and the south cannot rationally reason in general. All northern states where Islamic law has been implemented for at least the last 20 years remain impoverished, ruined by corruption, and poverty. Yet, this slowpoke continues to hold to this irrational thought, against common sense!

ViceGovernor:
■ Sometimes God withholds certain things from people as a way of protecting them until the appointed time.
The same way he takes some righteous people out of this world quickly as a way of protecting them from the evil that is coming.
Don't be envious of those countries progressing around you because time and chance happeneth to all men, no it's their time. Our time will surel come in this nation.
Nigeria is number five most populous country in the world today, God didn't put us there for no reason, very soon the progress of Nigeria will shock the owners of this evil world, evangelist Reinhard Bonnke said something like that in a crusade in the middle of Nigeria in the October 2006, he said God asked him to come to that particular state and speak of the future, but that state was engulfed in idol worshipping then. That's where they joined Nigeria together.
It would be like a dream how a struggling nation will suddenly awake, all it takes is 1 Man at the helm of affairs with God behind him.
He's an expert at using the simple things to shock the high and mighty.
There's a reason why the banks of the world are interested in Nigeria, world powers China, United States, Russia, Britain are fighting each other just to have us indebted to them because their mediums have told them of things to come about this country.

This here is proof that religion is not just a scam but a bitch! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

saintkel:
I won't call him fraud....that's way too big a word man....I'll just say he's wrong n it ends there....any other thing is gaslighting

A fraud who confessed recently to the scam he had been playing since almost the 70s— after he was found out, mind you— is not to be considered a fraud?

CoronaVirusPro:
The man needs to retire! Old age is already setting in! The moment he started talking about having breakfast with God, the church administration should have noticed and stop him from public speaking.

Nonsense! the man has been perpetrating his fraud since the beginning. The tithe if you want heaven lie he recently apologized for no be since almost the 1970s him and others like him don dey yarn that lies?

lapintoz:
■I get your point. But you need to understand that these MoGs are human. They are not above the afflictions of the flesh. There are times God uses them to speak to us and there are times God speaks to us directly. Which MoG saw Covid19 coming? None.
■ Clear headed people can pick the relevant doctrines and teachings of these MoGs. I do not pay 10% to churches, I would rather use it for charity and philanthropy. Daddy GO has validated what I have been practicing all my Christian life.
■ Abioye is much better than Oyedepo to me. If I were to be in the same city, I will gladly worship with him.

1. So, they are not holy after all, just humans. Which God then do they claim to speak to because the God of Israel whom they lie against says He only communes to those who are holy and righteous, not humans. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

2. So, it is Daddy Go, and not God, who validates these doctrines and teachings of theirs for you lot? Your Christian life is as defined by these selective ideas your Mogs put forth, essentially they are the gods you worship. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

3. You mean you would gladly Worship him(not with him), right? because that seems to be what you have been doing even before now.

Captain4Jehovah:
1. I am objective to your answer! Although there is no doubt he did come for the house of Israel, he himself said it:
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Matthew 10 : 6[b][/b]
Why did he say so? Israel, in the ETERNAL'S plan, is the first born of all nations. She represents the spokes person of God, she is the gun through which the plan would be actualized just like Nigeria and South Africa these days. Therefore, she must be saved first and equipped with all necessary to propagate the gospel. So, his admission in terms of eternal salvation is not restricted to the house of Israel for he says himself in John 3:16 thus:
For God so loved THE WORLD that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
"The world" is literally the race of man, sinful man who cannot save himself from both sin's and Satan's hold. Paul also, in one of his letters writes that "for ALL HAVE SINNED..." Is there anyone exempted? No! You are also there!
2. The last caption of your thought in line with "dogs" and gentiles entraps you. Check the picture yourself! Israelites refer to all who are not Israelites as gentiles, your nation inclusive. Consider the Syro-Phoenician woman who came to Jesus to come over to heal her daughter.
[25] For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:
[26] The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.
[27] But Jesus said unto her, LET THE CHILDREN FIRST BE FILLED: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.
[28] And she answered and said unto him, YES, Lord: YET THE DOGS UNDER THE TABLE EAT OF THE CHILDREN'S CRUMBLE
[29] And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.
Mark 7 : 25-29
3. The division of the state of Israel didn't happen during Solomon's time, it was during his son Rehoboam for being stupid. Ten parts of the kingdom was given to Jeroboam and the two parts fell into Rehoboam's hand. The former was called Israel while the later, Judah.
God warned Israel through His prophets for decades until it was sacked by Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar with few remnants in Israel. The other kingdom, Judah also sinned and was soon sacked by Assyria in which the Jews were scattered throughout the rule of Assyria. God's warnings came through Jeremiah but neglected it.
Friend, being captured and transported to another country does not mean that ones genes would change. Not with Israel as a whole! An example is the presence of Daniel, Shadrach, Meshack, and Abednego in Babylon_they remained loyal to the cult of YHWH. Another is Esther in spite she was a queen. Mordecai and rest of the Jews who lived in the province of Persia and Media.
4. I pray you find Jesus! This is my heavenwards prayer!
5 . It was the same Jesus who directed him to preach him to the gentiles.
And he spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jesus, and disputed against the Grecians: but they went about to slay him.
Acts 9 : 29
6. Confusion upon confusion! Jacob was the grandson of Abraham. Out of Jacob came the twelve tribes of Israel. He himself was later called Israel for wrestling with an angel. So from who did the nation of Israel emanate? Was it not from Abraham? They were first ever called the HEBREW which means to crossover having crossed from the other side of the flood. I mean to say, Mesopotamia. Judah is one of the twelve tribes. From the lineage came Jesus who was a Jew(the word Jew is from the word Judah). In what way now can we say he wasn't sent to the Abraham descendants?
As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever. Luke 1 : 55

1. How can you consider yourself to be objective in your response though which is based, not on facts but on religious delusions — lies/mumbo-jumbo/bullsheet — that have no bearing on any of what the subject of the discussion, Jesus Christ Himself said?

According to Jesus Christ Himself, He sent His followers only to the Lost Sheep of Israel because He did only the Will of His Father who sent Him only to the Lost Sheep of Israel. 🤔

2.
► Open your eyes when reviewing the content of the image this time around. Nowhere is it stated that the Israelites regard people of all other nations as gentiles. That claim is false and not backed up by the etymology of Gentiles.
► In the particular context you lifted the verses you quoted from, Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear that the mercy of God through David was reserved ONLY for the Lost sheep of Israel. And He agreed with the foreign woman that the dogs — non-Israelites — could have the crumbs that fall from the master's table. The Syrophenician woman was not regarded as a gentile but referred to as a dog, even by her own self — a non-Israelite. So?

3. Again, go back through what I wrote in my previous response and read it carefully because your response comes off as rather silly.

The Israelites of the Northern nation of Israel were scattered across the ends of the earth as the God of Israel said would be the case with them. Their lot did not end as that of the Judean captives who were matched off by Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar and taken en masse to Babylon. Neither did their lot end like that of the Judeas who escaped to Egypt only to be massacred.

4. You can never find Jesus Christ if you are not of the Blood of Jacob. That is what Jesus Christ Himself said. But I see you don't agree or regard him and that is why you continue to assert that which is counter to His very own Words.

5. A Greek-born Israelite can be regarded as a Grecian like Timothy was. A Nigerian-born Israelite can be regarded as a Nigerian like some who are Nigerians today are.

6. Religious and its many twists and turns. You disregard Jesus Christ's particular statement that He was sent by His Father — YHWH— only to the Lost sheep of Israel, equally disregarding YHWH's declaration that Israel is His only inheritance in the Land of men so that you can instead assert the idea of your religious masters over them both? You continue to prove my point that it is not YHWH of Israel and Jesus Christ of Israel that you believe in and worship! Your god is your religion an its many religious scammers-in-the-lords whose rhetorics you spew! 😂😂😂😂😂

tonesky:
I think Dementia is setting- in.

Dementia set in? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 See excuse wey this one dey offer abeg!

adamma24:
It is because of people like this...that make people think Christianity is a joke in Nigeria...

Nonsense! Christianity from its foundation ---all other religions included --- is a joke. This man's subconscious is now able to reveal that to all of those whom he has deceived before now.

Beremx:
Pastor Adeboye should stop making mockery of Christianity. What kind of stupid statement is that? That's how he said if you don't pay tithes you won't go to heaven only for him to apologize for making such reckless statement.
If he's becoming senile, he should hand over to someone else and stop fooling his old age.
Nonsense

You forgot to add that the supposed apology came after his lie was revealed even in his own church.

Bobbynobobby:
✓ How you managed to refrain from saying "d guy is good in attracting customers" needs to be studied

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lapintoz:
I love this man die I worshipped under him in Kaduna for 2 years. He is a great teacher of the word of God. And very humble. 😍

A man who served under a thief is a great teacher of the Word of which God if not the god of the delusions of the thief he served under?

budaatum:
This has nothing to do with belief, but everything to do with the compression of the English language. .

Comprehension, you say! Yet somehow you ignore the fact that He stressed His raising would be Just as that which took place in the desert with Moses raising the bronze snake, and this for those who comprehend the English Language indicates that similarities are to be drawn between both cases. I guess comprehension really means nothing to you after all.

Anyways, this isn't for you but rather for those who regard the person of Jesus Christ and take Him at His Word.

budaatum:
■ The text says, "just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life". The "whoever" clearly points to anyone, and not just Israelites. If I say, I will slap you just as I slapped someone else, you will not claim I will only slap that someone else, or would you?

Well, here's the thing, if you wish to believe Jesus Christ flippantly made that connection between himself and Moses' lifting of the snake to the people in the desert then clearly you do not regard him who also said He was ONLY sent by His Father to the Lost sheep of Israel aka Jacob. The World Jesus Christ was raised to give Eternal Life to... similar to the world the bronze snake was raised to give life to in the desert... is the World comprised of the bloodline of Jacob. That is according to Jesus Christ Himself.

There is a reason why a bronze snake — not a live or bronze pigeon or a falcon or a bear — was raised in the wilderness by Moses to the Israelites who grumbled against their God and there is a reason why Jesus Christ likened Himself to that particular bronze snake... not a lamb, a pigeon or anything else.

budaatum:
■ You are going to have to teach me how to read because there's no way I'd read the below and claim Jesus only came for those who are Israelites when it clearly states "everyone who believes in him", and "in order that the world might be saved through him".
I'd in fact go further and claim to understand that even Israelites who do not believe in him would not be saved.
14 And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. 16“For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life. 17 “Indeed, God did not send the Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Those who believe in him are not condemned; but those who do not believe are condemned already, because they have not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
John 3:14–18

The clue you are looking for is found in verse 14 and verse 15. To whom did Moses raid the bronze snake in the desert? There were foreigners among the Israelites in the desert, however, only those of them who were descendants of Jacob were counted. When God cursed the people after they sinned against Him, it was the children of Israel that were cursed by Him— condemned to die—, and it was also to the children of Israel that God asked Moses to raise a bronze snake as a sign of redemption. Jesus Christ is like the bronze Snake which was raised by Moses in the Wilderness, therefore, it follows that He too is raised, as He said, ONLY to the Lost Sheep of Israel — the condemned of Israel— to grant them Life.

Caseless:
Just to help the people to be in the right frame of mind...

Help which people?

btoks:
■ The church didn't fall in the 7th century and would never fall as Jesus himself said the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
■ Regarding church councils, this is how church has always functioned even from the early days(e.g Act 15) . It's always been required to settle disputes and clarify/come to a consensus on church teachings. Ironically, the canon of the bible was also confirmed via church councils.
■ The arguments about the person of Christ has always been fundamental to the Christian faith, therefore when certain heretics (Arianism) taught a different teaching to what was orthodox,this had to be brought up at the council of Nicaea.
■ The teaching about Mary as (Theotokus) Mother of God is all to do with Jesus. It is to confirm that Jesus is both God and Man and there was never a separation while Jesus was on earth ( against the Nestorian schism). Basically, who was the Jesus that Mary gave birth to and what did that make her.
■ These issues and many others were not clear from reading scriptures alone and thus had to be decided by the church. It's no use stating that it's not profitable as this is how the faith as been defined. It is very convenient to take things for granted many centuries after the event. There will be new issues and the church will reconvene to address these. Shikena

The gates of Hell as described by Jesus Christ is a reference to that which is antiChrist, and if you read the gospel well, that which is against Jesus Christ includes the attempt by those who are non-Israelites aka dogs to handle that which is Holy. Your churches are manned by those who are non-Israelites, the very same people Jesus Christ declared were not of Him so there is therefore no way they can be of Him or that which He stands for.

2. Your church councils have no connection to that which the Disciples did in Acts 15. For one, the Disciples invoked the Constitutional Law of the land in which they lived at the time — the Nation of Judah—and the dispute arose. (The Law of Moses was the Supreme Law in the Land of Judah by which the Jews of the Land lived at that time.) Your churchian councils do absolutely nothing of the kind during their council meetings. If anything, they are more prone to advising against commonsense than they are to demand the law of the land be upheld.

3. As Jesus Christ Himself said, handing that which is holy to the non-Israelites would only amount to it being trampled. Your arguments regarding the person/personhood of Christ serve as proof of this.

4. Jesus Christ Himself said His mother was nothing special... He made this known to His followers when He proclaimed when His mother came looking for him, saying, "My mother, brother, and sister are those who do the will of God," -Mark 3:31–35; Matthew 12:46–50; Luke 8:19–21 . It did not matter that Mary was his biological mother at all, those who instead matter are those who do the Will of His Father.

Bebigiby1:
■ ... You see the reason I blame the system is because of every day observable practical experiences on how Nigerians react to issues of governance..... Many Nigerians are helplessly tribalist when it comes to analysing national political events and issues of corruption involving government officers like president or governors.... Weakening the center and decentralizing political power to regions/states is not a silver bullet that will make all these selfish biases go away but I believe it will reduce it
■ because then it will no longer be an issue of "....you're criticizing Tinubu because your Obi who is your tribesman did not become president wailer!...." or ".... it is good that Tinubu as president is appointing only Yoruba into his government, you will wail for eternity...." even when there are clear reasons to criticize the actions of government, such divisive destructive rhetorics, comments like these and so many other hurtful actions that Nigerians do to each other have overtime have caused irreparable distrust and damage to the little gains made towards unity that existed during Obasanjo, Yaradua and Jonathan's government....
■ There is need for an overhaul of the system that will create the opportunity to depolarize and de-escalate..... There is a vast difference between each region as regards, tribal, religious and cultural values, these diversities have overtime been weaponized mainly by politicians to drive a false narrative that has succeeded in dividing the people to a point that many Nigerians in the southern part of country do not see any uniting factor between them and those in the northern part.... These same sentiment is shared by majority of those in north for obvious reasons.....
■ You made a great point regarding Nigeria's societal and educational value system which I agree but I think if Nigeria is restructured or divided, the social and economic competition it will bring among the regions especially at the grass root levels will go a long way in addressing this.... The prolonged polarization using divisive tribalistic religious propaganda coupled with the impunity exhibited by unrepentant looters (politicians) who steal public funds and get away with it, did a lot of damage to Nigeria's moral value system....
■ Nigeria needs a structural reset to heal.... Looking at some terrible tribal induced hateful comments on this thread alone, you can see that no genuine progress can be made as hateful tribalism has eaten deep into many Nigerians.... How do you explain it that there are still many people supporting the callous government that is inflicting pain on them without looking stupid....? Only a partial or full separation can restore some kind of sanity to what is happening in Nigeria....

1. I don't understand what you mean by weakening and decentralizing the center. Explain this to us in better detail abeg!

2. So, you wish for this weakening and decentralization so that you can win battles against tribalists/racists whom you love to engage?

These connections you make really make little sense to me is the problem. I am not at all bothered by those supposed hurtful remarks because I am mature enough to understand that those who worship these politicians do so because of stomach infrastructure. If they had better opportunities and jobs, and the nation was instead headed in the right direction, many of them would have no reason to debase themselves in that manner. So, you can imagine how you suggest that weakening and decentralizing the system would somehow make them go away so you can feel better.

3. The vast difference between the regions is known however, the benefits of these differences are nowhere to be found. If you go to every one of the 774 LGAs in Nigeria, you find that not a single one of the differences you listed there has provided any economic, social, or educational advantage or benefit to the people at that level. Go further into the villages and you find that those differences have no real meaning to and in the lives of the people. So, why should a nation be divided along and for the sake of those same meaningless ideas?

4. There you go again jumping to a disconnected conclusion as before. How in the world will restructuring Nigeria positively impact the educational and societal damage that is Nigeria and the minds of individual Nigerians? I keep repeating that your solution is not born of logic but rather some idea you seem to have been indoctrinated with. That is the only conclusion I can reach at this point regarding it.

5. Heal? You say that as if Nigeria is at war! There is no war and there has been one in over 50 years. There is no healing to fix the mess that is the mind of Nigerians from North to South, East to West. Yes, the nation needs a reboot but as it is that reboot can only happen if an educational and value re-orientation takes place. Otherwise, this country is headed to becoming a failed state and will remain so until a different generation sits up to accomplish that which their ancestors failed to.

budaatum:
■ Evidence please, considering, "For God so loved the world", which isn't necessarily all from the bloodline of Jacob.

In the very Scripture-established context of that passage where you lifted that statement there out of context from, John 3 vs 14 - 18, Jesus Christ Himself told you so. He even went on to warn His followers against giving that which is holy — the promise of God via David — to the dogs — the non-Israelites.

NaijaNaWaa:
Audio! OPEC said it's 1.33m b/d. The propaganda is too much.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/11/opec-differs-with-fg-on-oil-output-figure/

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Captain4Jehovah:
1. In answer to your first argument, let me use "assuming" then! Again, did Jesus die for the Israelites alone?....
2. You contradicted yourself in both first and second point: (1) dogs=non-israelites (2) dogs are not the gentiles. Then, who are dogs and gentiles in general? Are they not both referring to the unbelievers, those who are not Israelites?
3. When were they growing in foreign land? Who did you refer to, the Jews or the gentiles?
4. If may ask, what is your sect or religion? Where do you belong? You mean all Churches are dogs now?
5. Even some of the Israelites are bastards for not believing God sent Jesus to them.

[1] Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
[2] For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
[3] For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
[10] For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
[12] For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Romans 10 : 1-3, 10, 12

6. Jacob came from Adam.
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Acts 17 : 26
Blessed are those who do not see but believe.

1. Jesus Christ said He was sent only to the Lost Sheep of Israel. He explained that it is to the Israelites that He would be raised as a bronze snake to offer eternal life. The man died for Israel alone by His admission. So, why do you not believe Him?

2. Do you know the meaning of the word contradiction, to begin with? Try to reason slowly if you are having a hard time with this...

► Dogs are non-Israelites
► Gentiles are not Jews
► Dogs are not Gentiles
The logical conclusion would be something like this: Therefore, the more reasonable conclusion from the above would be that Gentiles are Israelites but not of the Jewish subset of Israel.

3. After the death of Solomon, the original state of Israel was divided into two Nations — Israel(northernmost country) and Judah(southern nation). Those whom you refer to as Jews are those Israelites who occupied the nation of Judah and were primarily of the tribes of Judah, Levi, and Benjamin. The rest of Israel occupied the northern nation of Israel. Around 720 BC, however, using the Assyrian Army, God destroyed and scattered the Northern nation of Israel rendering the land desolate afterward. The people were scattered all over the world after that. They and their children were regarded as the gentiles in the Israelite relationship. Their children grew up in foreign lands, some worshipped foreign gods, and many of them were never circumcized either— probably did not know they had to be. 720 BC is approximately 800 years before Jesus Christ.

4. I don't belong to any religion or sect or any of all that.

5. I am not certain what you think of what Paul opined there but Jesus Christ did not come to shove himself at the people but to fulfill God's promise to His people.

6. Jacob came from Abraham yet Jesus Christ did not say He was sent to the descendants of Abraham, did He? NO! He clearly said that He came ONLY for the Lost sheep of the one God Himself named Israel and he is Jacob. So, invoking Adam or even Abraham AGAINST Jesus Christ is akin to disagreeing with and disregarding Jesus Christ.

TheRealestGuy:
■ You're jumping from pillar to post. Public figure or not, ndi ofemmmanu is neither a slur word nor derogatory, going by the meaning of the word when translated. Same way omo yiibo and aboki are not derogatory cos their literal translations are not offensive. These are just words we use to banter one another as the 3 major ethnic nationalities in Nigeria. If you find them offensive, then it's a YOU problem. Meanwhile death and sorrow to all tribal, ethnic and religious bigots on all sides!

Let's be honest with ourselves, abeg! In the same way the word Negro simply means black and is not derogatory in the literal translation, it is offensive when used by some to regard others. These words that you claim you use for banter are unacceptable and hence offensive since they are used to express RACIST ideas.

And yes, Tribalism is RACISM. 😩😩😩😩

Nazgul:
■ If that's he's reason for not allowing drums in his church, I'd say it doesn't make any sense. Cos most keyboardist, guitarist and saxophone guys all have similar carnal lifestyle with drummers. So why should only drummers take the fall, why not all of them?

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Nnamdipapa:
■ Then TV was the devil's box, not it is no longer the case. Dude does not even have a good understanding of the Bible and people look up to him for Bible interpretations.

Bible Interpretations? A book they don't even need read in the original greek yet they claim needs interpretation...Kumuyi and all of the other scammers-in-the-lords out there have used Religion to destroy the ability of the average Nigerians to reason... let alone do so critically. 🤔

ibrocool:
Deeper life has changed o. Back in the days all their programs is always boring. You will feel like they are doing burial ceremony the way the look of the people at the event.
Their doctrine is very annoying. Their new leaders are smart to know that they need to change to accommodatew members. Without that, they will go extinct in 2 or e decades to come when all their old members die.

Exactly! Burial ceremony! I attended one back when I was 8 and kept wondering why the two in the marriage behaved like they were strangers on that day. Don't even get me started on their courting at all! CREEPY! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

IrepChrist:
■ We serve a God that can renew both body and soul

And changes his mind so very often.... according to Kumyi and Adeboye! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Nnamdipapa:
■ I agree with you. I grew up in that church too and It was my biggest regret. The level of brainwashing is at a very high rate.

That man was nothing but a fraud back then and remains a fraud to this day.

thatigboman:
Things have really changed. I remember those days when my deeper life friend used to look door to watch tv lowest volume. His uncle, the deeper life chairman that never got married, bought the tv after he realised he was the only in the entire area without tv.

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