₦airaland Forum

diamond68:
spirituality is not a movement. It's just you yourself and your morality and wisdom. All alone by yourself.

That is what you say but it is in fact a movement that has been around for many hundreds of years. There are lots of books and media on it too.

kelvinezeh55:
what do you practice presently I mean your belief I really want to know the purpose of this subject

I don't practice or have any religion.

diamond68:
am just making an observation that's all. I don't normally pay any attention to the man. He is not on my radar. Spirituality is different from religion. Spirituality is a relationship between yourself and your higher self

From the much I have seen of this Spirituality movement, they are no different from religion.

Lovenorth:
■ Christianity didn't change Russia and Ukraine

Um... OK! Religious Laws including Islamic Laws are proven failed when it comes to the running of any nation. So why demand their implementations in any nation for that matter with all of the proof out there against them?

rejoice4eva:
■ Is he your governor or representing your constituent at any level? Stop being mischievous

Tinubu was not a governor nor a representative of any constituency in Nigeria when he claimed he helped give Nigeria Buhari and Osinbajo either. Why are you dead set on making this scammer-in-the-lords look better than he has revealed himself to be?

rejoice4eva:
■ Why are you crying more than the bereaved. You never paid tithes or offering to him or his church. Why developing headache and hypertension over another man's problem? The last time I checked, you are not and can never be better than those who believes in tithing and offerings.
■ Mind you, the hard drugs, prostitute, betting , sickness etc you spent your own tithes on, when are you going to take them to court?

1. I see... OK but why are you here trying to convince us he is not the scammer and thief he has confessed that he truly is?

2. I don't need to sue anyone in court in those circumstances. However, when a person is scammed by way of the lies fed to them by people like Adeboye, we keep making noise about it so as to keep others from falling for the same scam and also to keep the crime from being continued.

diamond68:
■ oh ok I see you are assuming that I believe in religion and religious leaders ?
■ Well I don't. I am Orunmila and I practice esoteric metaphysical spirituality

Well, you would have to believe in religion and religious leaders to conclude that this man has changed, wouldn't you?

2. How in the world is that any different from all the other religions and religious nonsense spewed by folks like Adeboye?

rejoice4eva:
■ Stop venting your anger in the wrong direction. Pastor Adeboye has never and will never be your problem.
He is not a politician, neither is he Tpain that you supported. He has impacted life in millions and he is still moving. Your abuse added nothing nor reduce anything from him. In his field as academic he excelled. In his calling he excelled. He never claimed to be a perfect person like you nor an angel. But he is a trail Blazer in his generation.

Adeboye is most definitely a politician as many of the politicians who occupy office today and many who occupy the Tinubu inner circle are easily linked back to Adeboye and his empire.

rejoice4eva:
■ Meaning? The man of God stole your family, Local Government or State Government funds abi?
Take your case to court now, instead of crying and wailing online

Yes, he even confessed to it some weeks ago. He stole billions of dollars since the 1970s from people who believed they were paying money to buy their way into heaven. Many of them are probably dead today and with no hope of this heaven, he promised them.

To take him to court would require evidence. The sad part of all of this is that many of those he scammed he only convinced they did not need to keep evidence of their payments to him. According to his format, only those of them who freely give their money to him will be blessed by his scam God. So, the evidence for many is long lost. Does that make him any less of a scammer and a thief though?

diamond68:
I think the man is coming unhinged with all his recent activities the latest being had he not prayed naira would have reached 10k to the dollar

Stop deluding yourself!

The problem isn't with the man but with you. You swallowed many of his previous scams without question but have now realized how much harder it in fact is to continue swallowing even more of the same. He has not changed... you have!

kelvinezeh55:
Occultic philosophy

But religion is enslavement to the ideologies/opinions aka scams of other men without any tangible reward to be had.

rejoice4eva:
■ Truth is a bitter pill, humbly swallow it. Learn how to communicate without abusing elders or anyone.

If your elder defrauds your mother, your father, or even yourself, do you mean you will not call him out as a thief and a scammer?

illicit:
When my dad died. His body was returned to his hometown. Because he was believed to be attacked spiritually by unknown enemies. Yoruba call them Aye (world) and their potent tool is Ofa (invisible Arrow). So he wasn't taken to the morgue. His brothers, nephews and male cousins laid him on a bed in his old room. Cleaned and dressed him up in his favorite dress. Then I was summoned as one of his two boys and his last child.
I witnessed them putting a matchet that was wrapped with red linen in his hand and chanting incantations that he shouldnt slumber, he must find his killers and cut them down. I was maybe 9 but I know that they were just being poetic and dramatic, that is personification of a corpse. A dead man can not use a matchet. Only a living person would.
If a spiritual world exists I doubt if he would need a matchete to bring anybody down. I believed that they were confused but they were very serious. When he was being buried. These same relatives were there and a reverend was officiating and they were reciting the bible passages and singing hymns that he should rest and praying and saying Amen. The reverend probably didn't know that there was a matchete in the coffin.

A corpse was believed to be attacked— I bet you someone got paid for that pronouncement. So, you say the corpse was given a machete... an iron tool fudged according to the design of this world with metal refined in this world. Doesn't that sound a bit off to you? Spiritual — intangible attack — yet the tool to fight it is of this physical/tangible world. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

DropsMic:
■ Islamic law isn't bad,
■ but we'll never be able to practice it properly because, like Christianity, it was forced on us.
■ We no really understand wetin we dey practice. We just dey do am performatively because na the only thing we know.

Islamic Law has failed the Northern states of Nigeria where they have been implemented for the past 20 years. A majority of these states —Bauchi, Borno, Gombe, Jigawa, Kaduna, Kano, Katsina, Kebbi, Niger, Sokoto, Yobe, and Zamfara.— are today ravaged by insecurity issues, poverty and terrible economic situations.

2. Islam has had over 200 years to become a part of the culture of the north. In that time, generations have come to accept it as a part of their life and living in the north unlike Christianity in the south which is a more recent import.

3. That's pretty much what religious laws are like anywhere in the world.

SmartPolician:
I don't understand the essence of lumping 220 million people together and getting the worst of them to lead the people. How can 220 million people get a Tinubu of all people to lead and expect a positive result?

The decision to have the worst lead is made by the people.

illicit:
■ Exactly. He must have seen a lot of dead bodies that mingling with people to him seems pointless...
He must have a connection to the dead hence why he was at the funeral and would return to a hall filled with dead people
■ The new undertaker was another character. He looks dead. You know during the lying in state. The would often spray the dead body with a body spray I think to keep it fresh and keep flies away...The guy will spray the corpse and also spray himself with the same can. Who does that. An undertaker. I considered it weird.

1. A connection to the dead? That's a bit of a stretch. He probably just figured that by attending the funerals, he could get a free meal and pay his last respects to the dead whom he had had to share his workspace with before that. He is probably aware that one day it will be his turn, so he probably figures he can gather up some good karma for then.

2. It was probably just scented water that was sprayed on the bodies to keep them from drying up. It only seems weird because you are not aware of what he was actually working with and doing.

NLSOFTDeveloper:
I could not hold it but to cry like a baby when i read the trending, from those in government quoting how they used prayer to stop the Naira getting to NGN10,000 TO $1 to one dollar
On second note, this is not a joke, the government have zero plan for this country and Naira may get to NGN10,000 before Tinubu 8yrs in office
Yes I said 8 yrs because Nigerians are not yet ready to take power back, if Tinubu when not in government could hijack the electoral system and imposed him self, its shady thinking now he is in government, he will loose 2027. He will not. So get ready for more hardship
Am also praying for my self and looking forward to up-scaling my $$$$ earning
May God help us.

You are part of the problem that is Nigeria! Yes, you are part of the reason why Nigeria is stuck in the hands of these fraudsters including the religious ones. Even if it gets to Naira 20,000, I bet you will continue to pray and wait for God to come magically do for you what you ought to do for self. Kwantinue!

illicit:
■ Now I know better. I didn't remember anything about spirits I just kept remembering that till I matured. There's no time my mum slept outside unless she travelled. Here she was in this cold place wine since yesterday among strangers...
■ There was one worker at morgue. A middle aged man. He also knew my mum at tbe ward when she was alive. So I learnt it believed.
He followed us to the burial. But this man was an extremely quiet person... He sat away from the crowd. Won't drink alcohol. Ate enough. I don't know if it was customary for morticians to attend the funeral. Sometimes I wonder if he wasn't a ghost. But I don't believe in ghosts.

I have been to what you would consider a morgue. I used to be a medical student back in Nigeria and we were required to cut up cadavers that were left on cold slabs all day and night. So, yeah, experience for you. While the cadavers in the medical school looked dried up since they were not properly stored after each use, those recently dead, particularly those who either died in their sleep or under the influence usually look like they were sleeping and that is to be expected since death is sort of an eternal sleep of sorts.

2. If the man from the morgue ate food and the food went down into his stomach and not the floor from his mouth, doesn't that mean he is not a ghost — he was tangible like you and every other human out there?

What exactly is wrong with the man being extremely quiet though? He may have been through countless bodies and funerals so why did you expect him to make noise at the one you had for your mom? And why expect him to mingle with people whose bodies he might encounter the next day or soon after?

Anyways, I don't buy the idea of ghosts except when I am watching a movie or reading fiction. I instead believe that when an ordinary human dies, he or she remains inside of and rots with the body he or lived in — from dust, you were made and to dust you are returned after you die.

Mikelarteta:
Old age is catching up on our father in the Lord. He should talk less abeg.

Stop lying to yourself!

That man has been scamming you a lot from as far back as the 70s when he first began. Nothing new with this addition to his many ridiculous scams in all of that time.

WesKiz:
■ If u dey talk fake Christian or pastor face your fake Christian or pastor ok don’t touch Islamic ok

All religions including Islam are fake. For one Islam came pretending it had some sort of connection to the Jewish people through Abraham, did it not? Audio connection no be fake?

rejoice4eva:
O lekoo. You lack basic home training. Pastor E A Adeboye you are abusing was privileged to be among few that has access to computer in Nigeria when the total computers in the country was less than 5 FYI he holds a PHD in Applied Mathematics when Nigeria has quality education, not the type your kinds have. He has done more for this nation in his own little capacity. And he never contested for Councilor. So rechannel your frustrations somewhere.

The man scammed your ancestors and now scamming you yet all you can do is worship him some more. Don't you see that your own don't go be that?

He holds a PHD yet there is nothing beyond the religious scope that that knowledge has been applied or used to the benefit of the people yet you think it makes sense to raise that as a flag on this man's behalf? Shame no dey catch una? 😫

DrAda:
Sick man

Sick? Stop lying! The man is a scammer to his core and he clearly articulated himself even now.

ViceGovernor:
■ Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

That statement you lifted was made of the God of Israel — YHWH — who is also written to have sworn that the descendants of His Servant Israel are His ONLY inheritance in the land of men. Are you an Israelite that you quote that claim made of the God?

Additionally, the man whose words you quoted claimed the powers that ruled over the people of the nation of Judah— the Jews — who are a subset of Israel. (The Jewish nation, Judah, was comprised of only the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi.) At the time of his writing, the powers were the Romans, but before the Romans were the Greeks, the Persians, and also the Babylonians, all of them as installed over the land of Judah by God of Israel Himself. We know this because they were the four beasts that were prophesied to rule over Judah spoken of by Jeremiah — who even mentioned Cyrus by name—, Isaiah, and then Daniel. So, where are you attempting to go with this, and how does it relate to your Nigeria?

Inosky:
I'm sure this man needs a rehab, they won't take a swift action now until it escalates.

Rehab or jail for scamming you all?

Lovenorth:
It has changed Dubai

What about Yemen, Afghanistan, Sudan, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Pakistan, etc? Are you certain what changed Dubai was Islamic law and not some other laws?

ViceGovernor:
■ Do you believe there is a God or not?

There are many of them out there. In Nigeria alone, there are over 40 Deities in Nigeria— Nigerian gods. Which one is it you claim to believe in?

ViceGovernor:
■ Do you believe God exists?

There are over 4000 different deities out there claimed by men. In Pentecostal Christianity alone, there are over 45,000 different denominations all with contradictory tales describing what we are told is the same deity. So be specific.. which one?

Nigerians, both in the north and the south cannot rationally reason in general. All northern states where Islamic law has been implemented for at least the last 20 years remain impoverished, ruined by corruption, and poverty. Yet, this slowpoke continues to hold to this irrational thought, against common sense!

ViceGovernor:
■ Sometimes God withholds certain things from people as a way of protecting them until the appointed time.
The same way he takes some righteous people out of this world quickly as a way of protecting them from the evil that is coming.
Don't be envious of those countries progressing around you because time and chance happeneth to all men, no it's their time. Our time will surel come in this nation.
Nigeria is number five most populous country in the world today, God didn't put us there for no reason, very soon the progress of Nigeria will shock the owners of this evil world, evangelist Reinhard Bonnke said something like that in a crusade in the middle of Nigeria in the October 2006, he said God asked him to come to that particular state and speak of the future, but that state was engulfed in idol worshipping then. That's where they joined Nigeria together.
It would be like a dream how a struggling nation will suddenly awake, all it takes is 1 Man at the helm of affairs with God behind him.
He's an expert at using the simple things to shock the high and mighty.
There's a reason why the banks of the world are interested in Nigeria, world powers China, United States, Russia, Britain are fighting each other just to have us indebted to them because their mediums have told them of things to come about this country.

This here is proof that religion is not just a scam but a bitch! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

saintkel:
I won't call him fraud....that's way too big a word man....I'll just say he's wrong n it ends there....any other thing is gaslighting

A fraud who confessed recently to the scam he had been playing since almost the 70s— after he was found out, mind you— is not to be considered a fraud?

CoronaVirusPro:
The man needs to retire! Old age is already setting in! The moment he started talking about having breakfast with God, the church administration should have noticed and stop him from public speaking.

Nonsense! the man has been perpetrating his fraud since the beginning. The tithe if you want heaven lie he recently apologized for no be since almost the 1970s him and others like him don dey yarn that lies?

lapintoz:
■I get your point. But you need to understand that these MoGs are human. They are not above the afflictions of the flesh. There are times God uses them to speak to us and there are times God speaks to us directly. Which MoG saw Covid19 coming? None.
■ Clear headed people can pick the relevant doctrines and teachings of these MoGs. I do not pay 10% to churches, I would rather use it for charity and philanthropy. Daddy GO has validated what I have been practicing all my Christian life.
■ Abioye is much better than Oyedepo to me. If I were to be in the same city, I will gladly worship with him.

1. So, they are not holy after all, just humans. Which God then do they claim to speak to because the God of Israel whom they lie against says He only communes to those who are holy and righteous, not humans. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

2. So, it is Daddy Go, and not God, who validates these doctrines and teachings of theirs for you lot? Your Christian life is as defined by these selective ideas your Mogs put forth, essentially they are the gods you worship. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

3. You mean you would gladly Worship him(not with him), right? because that seems to be what you have been doing even before now.