₦airaland Forum

Bebigiby1:
■ I am only sharing my final thoughts on what is best for Nigerians, I do not how Nigerians will achieve it or what they want as a people....
■ The truth is that Nigerians are wasting their time as nothing good can come from forcing a union that can not work..... I am totally convinced that Nigeria needs to be totally restructured or divided.... Nothing can solve the country's problem until it is done....

There has to exist a direct connection between this final thought of yours and the reality of things as they exist. That connection is entirely missing from all of your write-ups so far.

2. There are 774 local government areas in Nigeria... municipalities where if the people truly wished for progress, they could easily begin making it happen for themselves as is. To date, none of those 774 municipalities can boast of any of the following
■ Clean water supply to homes
■ Robust sewage and water management system
■ Effective Waste management system
■ Good schools with world-standard educational and Skills training services
■ Internet connectivity in both homes and businesses
■ Electricity supply to homes and businesses(through building of dams, use of wind turbines, and better distribution services)
■ World Standard equipped Healthcare network
■ Sturdy road network complete
■ Passenger Rail system linking at least the major towns and cities
■ Network of Libraries with free access to members of the public to support learning
■ Better prison facilities and rehabilitation programs
■ Expansion of police-community programs to help capture crimes across all parts of the state.
■ Robust Gas transmission network for the direct piping of gas into homes. , etc.

And this is all despite the billions in remissions sent back to Nigeria year after year by people abroad. So, what makes you think that division of Nigeria is the answer to development at the local level where nothing really stopping that even today.

Bebigiby1:
I am totally convinced that Nigeria needs to be totally restructured or divided.... Nothing can solve the country's problem until it is done....

What totally convinced you that this is even a good solution in a country where according to you, the vast majority — scattered across every tribe, every ethnic group, every religious group, etc.— are not wiling to lift a single finger to do anything to change the status quo? Aren't you sort of projecting your private delusions as a solution instead?

Bebigiby1:
■ It is hopeless to keep pretending that Nigeria can function as a sane country or attain any meaningful progress
■ when a majority of it's citizens are deeply biased, sentimentally compromised towards holding their government accountable, when a majority of it's citizens are incapable of admitting the truth about a crime committed irrespectful of the tribe of the person involved due to deep rooted tribal hateful sentiments ..... Tinubu's shameful presidency lays credence to the fact that the APC propaganda machine have won and Nigeria's enemies are laughing at Nigerians.... Since majority of the people have become hopelessly lost to tribalism, religious bigotry corruption and dishonesty to the point they can longer tell themselves the truth or reason like normal human beings,
■ Nigerians have only 2 options to choose if they want to salvage what is left of their country. First option - Weaken the centralized government by decentralizing political and economic power structures to devolve to regions,/states..... Second option - Divide the country so it's regions can go separate ways.... Anything short of these 2 options is a waste of time... Nigeria's unity is a scam, Nigeria's unity is a mirage..... it's a shame.....

1. It's hopeless pretending? Who is pretending though? The Nigerian people who have yet to lift a single finger to fight for that which you claim they want? Or the Politicians who are very much at home with things — the people's reaction and the free loot they continue to nab— as they are?

2. The majority of citizens who do absolutely nothing cut across pretty much every tribe and group in that Nation. So, who are you trying to save? A minority who really have no place of their own anywhere in that nation among any single group? COME ON!!

3. Considering what you typed earlier, this amounts to a bullsheet conclusion. Again, the majority you described earlier belong to every tribe, every religion, every group, and every divide in that nation. They have no desire whatsoever to fight for change or anything of the sort since they are at home with all that exists as is. So, why do you keep pushing these disconnected ideas as solutions?

Cognitive dissonance na craze ooo! 😶😶😶😶😶

Bebigiby1:
I know that is why I am making the case for Nigerians to restructure or divide the country so you can enjoy your president in peace and let others who do not want him to move on.....

That makes no sense!

The people refuse to lift even a finger to impeach him but somehow magically you conclude that what is needed is for the country to be restructured and divided. What is up with the way you all reason? Who's gonna make that happen if not the same comatose people who refuse to impeach the Tinubu you are against? Or are you seriously trying to say that the politician in office today would somehow grow a conscience and hand you a divided Nigeria on a platter or something? Wake the fk up abeg!

GothamCities:
■ Seems you don't know what Protestants and Reformation is all about.
■ Are you kidding me? We do not believe or practice the same things as the Roman Catholics.
■ You don't even know the Babylonian cult to be able to make the difference.
■ You're just too ignorant.

1. Its you who lacks an understanding of what really took place during the so-called Reformation and how and why Christianity, even with its over 45,000 branches that have shot out since then all retain and continue many of the same doctrines and traditions associated with its mother church, the Catholic Church.

2. That is the lie you tell yourselves but the fact is most of your traditions today can easily be traced back to the Catholic Church. Even your offering collection rituals are from the Catholic church.

3. I don't need to know of a Babylonian cult as all I need to know is Babylon mentioned in Scripture and what the God of Israel accused the Jews — Israelites as well —came away from Babylon with. That religion and everything put on top of it amounts to Paganism —antiChrist — where the God of Israel is concerned.

4. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I am far from the ignorant one in these things.

GothamCities:
■ My friend, you didn't prove any of your claims with Scriptures. You were only mentioning verses and explaining them in the most heretical manner.
■ On your second point, I have told you that the Church is fully aware of the evils committed by the Roman Catholics and has reformed, has kept reforming and would continue to reform. The Church has long departed from the occultic rites of Roman Catholicism.

This statement of yours makes absolutely no sense! I simply quoted what is written in Scripture as is written. If you think that is heretical to do then it means you don't accept what is in fact stated in Scripture to begin with.

2. Balderdash! Your churches are founded upon the same doctrines and traditions of the Catholic Church. The so-called Reformation was merely a farce by those who wished to have a piece of the power and glamour that formerly belonged only to the Catholic Church. The foundation of their so-called reformation is the same foundation drawn by the Catholic church, most of their doctrines and traditions are the same, except for the fact that they claim to have been reformed. Yes, all 45,000 denominations of Christianity today, including those of the Catholic Church, all share the same functional doctrines and traditions. So, stop deceiving yourself thinking you deceive others by it.

GothamCities:
■ You should boldly state the evidences for which you claim. Do not hide behind a such irresponsible words as "it's right there in the Gospels" or "It is clearly indicated by the entire history of the religion".
■ Be bold for once and put forward your evidences.

I did that earlier but you reject the Gospels as Jesus Christ made clear those who would adopt doctrines and traditions of men — Religion — would. So, your particular problem here has nothing to do with me.

2. I also did that when I pointed out that the Pagans, some of them Romans, eventually set up a religion by which to manipulate the minds of people and also gain power and prestige for themselves amongst the people of the time. They cooked up stories of all kinds to associate themselves in any way possible with at least the apostles whose stories were never again to be heard of after the end came in 70 AD. That eventually paid dividends for many of them when the religion was made the official religion of Rome by Constantine who equally wanted to get in on the political importance of the religion at the time.

GothamCities:
■ You'll do well to go and read and see that the Church discovered the lies and satanism in Catholicism a long time ago
■ and therefore dropped all catholic traditions
■ that were taken from the Babylonian cults.

😂😂😂😂 Which church discovered which lies? The same churches that built their foundation on that which was Catholicism— doctrines and traditions— before them abi which one? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

2. How could they have dropped that which is still part and parcel of the belief system even to this day?

3. Taken from Babylonian cults? Religion, in the form of what is called Judaism today, is what the Jews— the Nation of Judea, the sister nation of the former nation of Israel — took from the Babylonians when they were there in captivity. And that is the tradition that even Pentecostalism upholds to this day as Christianity is famously known to be modeled after Judaism before it, the very Religion Jesus Christ is known to have condemned even during HIs time.

GothamCities:
■ Why are you bent on telling lies! Tell us where the Catholics got the traditions of Imageries, rosaries, Queen of heaven, Mary the mother of God and all the paganisms they do. You need to tell us the beginning of such traditions from Christ or His disciples and how exactly the Roman Catholics have continued it. Since you said the tradition was CONTINUED by the Roman Catholics, you must tell us from whom they continued it with sound historical references.

You are not paying attention at all. 🤔

The Catholics invented most of their doctrines and traditions by way of their many twists and lies which are not found anywhere within scripture. Even the idea of the cross as a sacred symbol was invented by the Catholics. The idea of the book you carry around called your Bible is some sort of "Holy" book that should be revered and never tossed, torn, or burned... all ideas that came from the Catholics. Many of your prayer rituals, and ceremonies in your Pentecostal churches came from the Catholic traditions as well.

GothamCities:
■ Tell us where Jesus Christ made such description.
■ Prove to us that the Christianity was greed and politically driven before it was hijacked by the Romans.

It's right there in the Gospels for all who have eyes to see for themselves but like Jesus Christ said, those who adopt religion would never accept His Truth.

2. Proof? Are you kidding? It is clearly indicated by the entire history of the religion.

GothamCities:
■ At least, His disciples were called Christians shortly after His departure. Was there a group called Roman Catholics during the time of Jesus Christ?

More like they were heckled as Christians by the Pagans around them at the time... some of them the very Romans who eventually hijacked the movement for their political and greed-driven religion of Christianity.

Jesus Christ described all religions, beginning with the one that came before him — Judaism— as that which is against the God of Israel and His person.

Muurian:
■ Oga, you don't have anything to say. What exactly is your point? Christianity is a tradition that started years after the death of Christ, and catholics are the ones who are maintaining that tradition. So what's your point?

The Catholic Tradition started long after the Nation of Judea was destroyed. To show that it had nothing to do with the movement started by Jesus Christ and operated by His disciples until the end times began when Jerusalem was finally destroyed and all Jews were scattered abroad across the nations.

thesicilian:
■ Sorry again for your pain. Maybe if you people remove the hatred for your countrymen from your hearts some of the pain might go away.

This response is coming from the same imbe_cile who posted a hateful comment against another from the same country just moments ago. 🙄🙄🙄

thesicilian:
What do you expect, it's classic obidient trait. She's Igbo afterall.

Are you OK in the head at all? 🤔

thesicilian:
■ You sound pained, I see. Sorry about that. Truth hurts.

Of course...
► I am pained by the level of intelligence obtainable still of the average Nigerian in the year 2024. Even the barbarians past at least had a strategy and were at least united in many of their quests.
► I am pretty pained that this country is likely not going to have a chance until even my generation is long gone from this earth.
► I am pained that the children remain the sole victims of the collective stewpidity of Nigerians such as yourself.

You are damn right I am pained! 🙄🙄🙄

thesicilian:
What do you expect, it's classic obidient trait. She's Igbo afterall.

Rubbish! Na only she dey complain? Abegi, Waka pass me with your brand of brain damage. 😩😩😩😩😩

004gist:
■ Our president was recently called a CIA Asset. Just below what i found out

Your president was and probably is merely a snitch, snitching on those he worked with during his drug years. Yeah! His being an asset is likey for information on the drug organization he worked with and for and not on your Nigeria.

Muurian:
✓ Abi. 😊

Yep! Judaism, Catholism, Pentecostalism, Islam...they are all frauds.🤔

Every religion that has ever claimed a connection to the Biblical records are all frauds.

Petalss:
■ Are you suggesting that when Jesus referred to "all nations," he was specifically addressing the 12 tribes of Israel?

Jesus Christ previously warned them not to give that which is holy to the non-Israelites. So, the mention, "All Nations", meant all Nations(excluding the non-Israelites living in them).

Mom007:
■ I like your bravado. It's very consoling... to yourself. I hope it keeps you warm at night.
You that is laughing so heartily, what have you done about it? How have you exempted yourself and family from all that is going on in the country? Continue to wallow in your ignorance and self deceit. Ignorance is bliss afterall and you seem pretty blissful and cheerful yet the country is still crumbling around your ears.

No need to make this about me. I am not the one here busy fishing desperately for excuses why inaction is the correct response even with this report. You are! I think it is much better to own one's cowardice than pretend everyone is to blame for it all. 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

GothamCities:
■ He didn't send His disciples to the Israelites in all nations but ALL NATIONS .
■ Israelites didn't scatter to all nations dear.
■ Christ said the make disciples of ALL NATIONS, and not disciples of the Israelites in all nations!

Again, Jesus Christ warned His followers not to give that which is Holy — the Mercy of God through David which He was sent to give ONLY to those who were of the bloodline of Jacob— to the dogs — the non-Israelites. Clearly, it was understood by those who follow and obey His commandments that they were NOT to go to the dogs but to the sheep.

2. So, YHWH lied when He said that was exactly what He would do to His people of Israel from the time of Moses? I said it, you reject the God of Israel — YHWH!

3. Jesus Christ was specific in detailing those whom His disciples were to make disciples of.


Religion does have a way of literally robbing people of the ability to critically reason all things. 😎

GothamCities:
■ It's actually a waste of time discussing with you at this your level of ignorance.
■ So, Jesus was sent to the house of Israel alone and others are dogs. Why did Jesus send His disciples to the dogs saying "Go make disciples of all nations"?

It is a waste of time surely because you reject Jesus Christ's own words, remember?

God of Israel had previously scattered the House of Israel beginning with the sister nation of Israel. So what reason did Jesus Christ have to not send His disciples to all of the Nations?

Inosky:
■ It's because Nigerians have been weakened. If the protest, the people that are meant to protect them has been bribed to kill them. What do you expect again they should do? They are like an innocent child beaten and told not to cry, and if he cried he will be killed. It's terrible and worst mess, that can't be cleaned up and it keeps deteriorating everyday.

So, let's get this straight then, shall we?

You claim the people were too cowardly to fight to take back their mandate and so they decided it best to let the thief who stole their mandate have it anyway? Basically, they allowed him to have it anyways— sanctioned his government?

GothamCities:
■ You and who interpreted 'the dogs to mean none Israelites?

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No interpreting is needed at all when it comes to Scripture since you didn't have to learn the original greek language in other to read any of its contents, did you?

Jesus Christ Himself stated that the ones He was only sent to by His Father were those whom He regarded as sheep —the Lost sheep of Israel. He affirmed that all others were dogs— non-Isrealites —who do not have any right to that which is of God's mercy via David, even though they could have the crumbs that fell off the master's table.

Ndenomy:
■ Rest. Does Nigeria constitution sates the same? Or y’all are just crying due to sheer hatred for the president?

State the same what? Aren't you the one who came attempting to use the U.S. Constitution as justification for why it makes sense to have criminals ruling in Nigeria? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

GothamCities:
■ A screenshot of that comment should do. For now, you're lying about me. I never said Jesus was only sent to Christians!
Heed your own counsel!
Look at the bolded parts of your comment above and tell me if you do not need to see a doctor. Can you quote out the scriptures where Christ made it clear that religion is antichrist? Also make me see the scriptures that say Christianity is a religion!

I already quoted scripture to you but you rejected scripture. In Matthew 7 vs 6, Jesus Christ did say that giving that which is Holy to the dogs — non-Israelities— would only result in it being trampled. That explains why you refuse that which is written in order that you assert instead that which you prefer.

GothamCities:
■ I never made any such claims. Can you prove me wrong?
■ You better quote out these verses so that I can expose you!
■ I am of the bloodline of Jacob already. You're the one who said only people like me have a part in Jesus. So, you must respect me for who I am.

Your very own comment which I reposted earlier serves attempt to associate Jesus Christ with the Christian that you are is proof against you.

2. Stop messing with your own head there.

3. You are lying! I said only people who are of the blood of Jacob can have a part in Jesus Christ. I didn't say that was the only requirement by the way. And I am almost certain you are not of the bloodline of the man called Jacob. No one who belongs to or knows Jesus Christ would adopt any religion since Jesus Christ made clear that religion is antiChrist - Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 & Matthew 15 vs 1 - 10.

GothamCities:
■ So, in a nutshell, your accusation is based on what you think about us, and not on what we really say or do?
■ Can you quote where Jesus Christ said only those who are of the bloodline of Jacob have part in Him?
■ And before you waste your time unnecessarily, kindly note that I am of the bloodline of Jacob. I have a part in Him therefore, while you have no part according to your warped understanding. So, give me my respect!

1. Wrong! It is based on the claim you made in your previous comment!

2. John 3 vs 14 - 18 & Matthew 6 vs 7 and Matthew 15 vs 20 - 28 made this abundantly clear.

3. I am not the one here pretending to have a part in the God of Israel and Jesus Christ of Israel. You are! So, you are the one who needs to assure us all that you who claim to know Jesus Christ are in fact of the bloodline of Jacob.

anonimi:
■ Thanks but this doesn’t answer my question about what makes America great despite that, which our country is not.

The people who are the checks-and-balances in the system, the ones who together make the institutions strong and all.

ycat:
Nigerians are criminals and that's why the country has never worked out. President Tinubu is the best thing to happen to Nigeria but unfortunately the evil Nigerians like you won't let him fix it, so the only thing is to divide the country,

Keep spinning tales... someday you will run out of spins.

Inosky:
■ Which Nigerians elected, someone that stole his way into office. Just dey play

There's no record of Nigerians ever fighting to get back their stolen mandate though. So, what does that tell you?

If someone steals something from you and you let that person have it anyways, what does that mean?