₦airaland Forum

AntiZikist:
■ The circumstances are not the same. Lagos issue arose over dispute arising from the State creating additional Local Government areas to which Obasanjo denied the state their due federal allocations .
In the case of Rivers, there's no budget .What Fubara is using as budget to run the state was passed by a mere four sitting members - a number not even constitutionally enough to form a quorum.The budget has been declared illegitimate because its passage by only four members did not meet the constitutional required amount of law makers to form a quorum. Thus, Rivers executive governor is running an illegal budget and has usurped the constitutional role of the legislative branch with the continued impasse involving the remaining 22 duly elected legislators.
■ If Tinubu is to bypass the NASS, shut both chambers down and have a hand few of senators and reps to sign and approve his budget while ensuring the NASS remains under lock and key to the rest of elected Senators and Reps, there would be massive riots across the country.
Why then is Fubara being seen as some hapless individual when he is clearly the tyrant here?

Your position on this makes no sense at all. If the State has no budget(or the State has a budget), what has that to do with LG and LG allocations?

2. According to the Supreme Law of the Land, Tinubu has no right to stop State or LG allocations. All that is happening here are politicians and judges basically taking a piss at the Constitution and Nigerians backing the foolishness.

Good2go1:
20yrs Ago When Tinubu Was Gov, S'Court Declined An Application To Withhold Allocation-Chidi Odinkalu
News Hub CreatorOct 30, 2024 4:07 PM
Nigerian lawyer and human rights activist, Prof Chidi Odinkalu has taken to his official X account to react after court stopped the Central Bank of Nigeria from releasing allocations to the government of Rivers state.
According to PUNCH, Justice Joyce Abdulmalik of the Federal High Court in Abuja on Wednesday stopped the Central Bank of Nigeria from further releasing monthly financial allocations to Rivers State Government.
According to a post that Prof Chidi Odinkalu made on his page on Wednesday, he said 20 years ago when Bola Ahmed Tinubu was the governor of Lagos state, the Supreme Court of Nigeria declined an application to withhold the federation account allocations of Lagos state LGAs. He said today, a judge of the Federal High Court has overruled the Supreme Court.
According to Chidi Odinkalu;
"20 years ago, while Tinubu was governor of Lagos state, Supreme Court declined an application to withhold the federation account allocations of Lagos LGAs. "Today, a judge of Federal High Court overruled the Supreme Court. This is not Rule Of Law; it is tyranny of the outlaw".

The Federal High Court did not go against the Supreme Court but rather the Supreme Law of the land, the Nigerian Constitution which stipulates that only the House of Assembly, both at the National and State, can make decisions as far as allocations Local Government allocations to any of the 774 LGAs in Nigeria. Nigerian courts have no power or say granted them by the Supreme Law of the Land — the Constitution— as far as those LG allocations are concerned.

Justnation:
■ Many are suffering in silence, people need to speak out. The new tariffs is an act of wickedness

If the people are saying and doing nothing about it, what then? Maybe suffering is a pastime of theirs.

ayindejimmy:
■ Popular opinion and demand made Northern Nigeria practice Sharia law. Even though Christians live there, the majority had their way.
■ Back to Ned ,I'm sure being a senator, he's in a good position to know how these rich people spend. It's enough to affect when you realize most foreign embassies collect their visa applications in forex. Same for schools too. And hiring these our top celebrities is done in forex even in Nigeria.
■ Let the FG stop this practice first and let's see if it doesn't make a difference

I disagree because history tells us differently! Sharia was imposed on the people since a referendum was actually never helped to ascertain what it was the people wanted before that decision was made.

2. Stop lying!

Isn't he of the same set of lawmakers who last year concluded that eliminating fuel subsidy at a go— not drawing it down as the previous administration had instead done— would have little to no impact on Nigerians and the economy? Many of them also went on TV to state this but we all know the eejits are mostly disconnected from the life of average Nigerians. So, why in the world would you think it makes sense to now suggest Ned Nwoko has so much more knowledge than the average Nigerian on the street, and use that as a basis to support this ludicrous idea he puts forward without so much as a pinch of evidence to back up the claims made?

3. You mean like FG stopped Fuel subsidy last year and Nigerians are still paying through the nose for that even that one decision?

Oluchiugo:
This bill should be implemented without delay if truly these Politicians want Naira to appreciate. It does not take anything away from the Abokis who are into BDC, infact it will make their biz boom because of increased patronage since everyone dealing in Dollar will have to meet them for changing every time. Pls let's implement without delay........except there is something I am missing

Stop being gullible abeg! Ask yourselves pertinent questions... How many Nigerians in Nigeria currently purchase and sell goods and services using foreign currencies?

ayindejimmy:
■ In a democracy - yes! Power belongs to the people

Wait a second... I live in a democracy and I am sure that is not how it works at all. Laws are not made simply on grounds of popularity but on considering the evidence available to support the need for the laws.

What percentage of Nigerians use foreign currencies for goods and services? What percentage of workers in Nigeria are paid in foreign currencies? ... Is the volume we are talking about here really enough to negatively dent the Nigerian currency in the way this Ned Nwoko suggests?

I seriously doubt it, by the way.

ayindejimmy:
■ It's a popular opinion. Imagine parents in Nigeria having to look for forex to pay the school fees of their children schooling in Nigeria. Even some people working in Nigeria only accept to be paid in forex. I recalled some of OBJ's ministers were paid in dollars. All these people using forex to pay for services rendered in Nigeria are putting undue pressure on the foreign exchange market. Do we even want the progress of this nation at all?

Should laws be made based on popular opinions though?

Ttalk:
■ Which one of it doesn't make sense?

What policy(or policies) did Ned Nwoko state that you claim suggests makes sense? Name one!

mrvitalis:
1) using borrowed money to finance infrastructure projects when revenue us already less than debt service + recurrent expenditure
2) Tinubu and his team joke attempt at naira floatation

Ned Nwoko mentioned none of these policies you listed here in the OP.

mrvitalis:
The policies makes absolutely no economic sense... Not a single policy here can encourage growth ...

What policies? Give us at least details of two policies listed in the OP that this man insists will not work.

santopelele:
Good point here by nwoko, but the dullard and his goons of drug associates can never reason something meaningful like this. Association of criminals parading as government officials

What good point did the man make? Help us understand what good point he in fact expressed up there.

Xxxxtentacion2:
He is very correct...

Correct about what exactly?

Mrfixiit:
We know that very well, Only zombiess say otherwise

Know what? What is it that the man said that you think made sense? Why do you people simply parrot whatever these kakistocrats feed you all without so much as doing your own research?

ariesbull:
stop denying your tribe

Own up ...you guys are backward ...I Habe been to your cities or towns

Abeg Waka pass me with your racist nonsense!

ariesbull:
✓ Yoruba man didn't you see the aerial picture you think Igbo land is like Yoruba land with dirty houses

Are you people OK in the head at all? Why must I be a Yoruba man? Because I question the rational behind particular delusions which you hold to or what?

Please be sure to Waka pass me with your bonus racist delusions abeg!

otipoju:
■ I get you. This supreme being that both are describing if they have the same core characteristics of which the paramount one for me is that he created the universe, then I am willing g to take the leap of " faith" to say that they are describing the same entity with their own local expressions or experiences as the stories were handed down to them by their ancestors.
■ Any diety that did not create the world, can not be lord over it and is a creation itself, wether in the human mind or by the Supreme Being.
■ For me there can not be two or more supreme beings. One for each culture or continent.

Now you suggest that you get to decide those what the core characteristics from the descriptions should be as far as the truth of the supreme being. Come on! 🙄

Leap of faith? You say it like you humans get to decide what applies and what does not as far as this supreme entity. Na wa oo! 🤔

2. Anyone can wake up any day and suggest that his or her particular deity is the creator of the universe aka the supreme being. The problem here is rather your suggestion that as long as people make the claim and you decide— of your subjective view that is — that the particular description given fits with your private ideas of the supreme being then that deity must be an image of the only supreme being.

3. However, each culture is not barred from believing that their particular deity— not that of others— is the supreme being, right?

thatigboman:
u drink shekpe when u wrote the rubbish u rubbish? You asked for pictures of residential areas in aba. And say the picture of aba main town the Op uploaded is like showing the pictures of ikoyi and VI in lagos. Is that not comparison? Why didnt you mention an area in osogbo where u come from let's compare.

Are you sure you are OK at all? If you have nothing intelligent to type abeg, waka pass me. Gosh!

Taiwojon:
Abeg rest Jesus love you Repent

Stop going around lying to people!

thatigboman:
so what were you interested in? Comparing Aba with Lagos? Why not compare Aba with osogbo where u come from?

Read my comment and take time to digest what is written! Where do you get off believing that I was trying to compare Aba to Lagos or Osogbo for crying out loud? 🙄

Why do you get off feeling it is OK to project your private insecurities on others just because? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

thatigboman:
the post you commented on talked about "interconnecting
roads! "ZOOM IN & look at the now all paved interconnecting roads! " that's town planning.
And u alluded it was because it was the major town and are asking of residential areas. Most of the houses in that picture are residential areas. And I'm trying to enlighten you that even on the fringes of aba main town, the residentisl houses are as well planned.
Do u have a problem with comprehension?

Again, what portion of my comment led you to believing that I was particularly interested in the paving of the interconnected roads in the picture? Are you certain I am the one with the comprehension issue here cause clearly, you responded to my post and not to the other there.

adolfHitler1934:
■ Are you the only one reading Nairaland? Don't you know that this forum is global? All you guys know is bash each other tribes here, exposing yourselves to the world. Abeg make I hear world.

🤔 Please, get off my mention if you have nothing intelligent to say! 🙄

adolfHitler1934:
■ Have you ever seen Indians show slums and poor people in their movies? Meanwhile they are the most poorest in the world and defecating in public too.
■ Nigerians should learn to do so. Don't show slums in our movies, don't show ritualist or shitty places, it is what sell you as a country in the international market place.
Meanwhile, Otti is not doing bad,though.

The OP's post cannot be compared to a movie at all, as it is instead on a forum. If OP were instead writing a fictional tale, then Nairaland is probably not the place to post such.

2. Nigerians should learn not to show the slums in Nigeria to what end? To deceive their fellow Nigerians into thinking all is well when it ain't? Isn't that sort of like what your politicians like to do, lie to you all that all is well while they kill off the nation?

thatigboman:
aba main city was well planned since the colonial times. The pictures were of the main aba. Well structured, well numbered.
It's only in aba and lagos that I was able to locate places based on house numbers. "2 mbadiwe street, abayi" and I go to abayi and locate mbadiwe street and locate no 2. Same with lagos addresses. That's it.
Not even ph, or kano or kaduna or enugu or owerri or maiduguri have I been able to locate places based on house number. It's usually "u see a mango tree, then turn left, when u get to a fruit market by the left, then turn right. When u cross a white bridge, stop and call me let ne come and pick u from there.
Residential areas are main aba are well numbered. Just go no 6 ohanku road or no 20 ngwa road, u will just get there easily. Even far from the main town, someone will just tell u he lives in 20 akwa street abayi, a rural area on the fringes of aba main town and u go there and easily get it. I don't know for the newly developing areas and if aba town planning council is still working, but I must confess, they did a very good job numbering houses in aba. The unplanned areas may be

What, of the post you commented on, led you to believe that I was in someway concerned with or addressing the planning of the town or whatever?

otipoju:
■ Anthropomorphic attributions to God are intrinsically problematic...and tiny mobile phone may not be a convenient platform to unpack my thoughts fully. So bear with me. African God in this context means a spiritual entity that is distinctly "African" From Africa, is African and belongs to Africa. Such a thought can not hold true with the idea of a Supreme being ( God) who is the creature of the universe.
■ It is a contradiction. A supreme being cannot belong to one race if he created all things.

Let me try to get your point here. Are you insinuating that if Lagbaja were to declare that his deity(let's call him Ologba) is the supreme being, and Bala equally declared to us that his deity(Hankaci in this case) is also the supreme being, it must then mean that Lagbja and Bala are both correct in insisting that their particular deity is the supreme being — Ologba and Bala must be references to the same and only Supreme deity?

2. The problem in this case is not the supreme being at all but the claims made by humans regarding this supposed supreme being whose identity you seem to think is determined by humans— whims and opinions— and no the supreme being himself.

otipoju:
■ In other words, there is no african God.
■ In African cosmogony, what we have mostly are defied ancestors...that is human beings who bleeped, ate , shat and slept and died like me. I don't think I would want to worship such in spite of whatever exploits they accomplished when they were flesh and blood.
Another classification of deities are personalization of natural forces...such as water, thunder, trees, oceans, etc. Why would I want to worship such.Another classification are disembodied spirits... which are living entities even though they have no bodies. Still why would I want to worship a spirit that did not create the world and did not create me and therefore should have no dictate on how I live.
■ Now,in African societies, a hood number of them have a belief in the Supreme Being who created all things just like many other societies all over the world. If many societies believe in a supreme being...even though they call it by different names, then I dare say we all worship the same God.
■ He is not African nor European nor Semitic. He is a Spirit being and the idea of an African God therefore holds no water to me.

1. Well, if you really think carefully about it, you would easily see why there can't exist an "African God" per se since individual deities are generally closely associated with particular bloodlines, cultures, tribes/ethnic groups. You rarely find the same deities worshipped by many different cultures. So, in Africa, you are bound to find worshipped many different deities and not just one.

2. I don't tend to agree with this overly generalized view of African deities actually.

3. That is a leap in logic you have going there.

4. I see leaps in logic are a thing for you, huh?

wink2015:
They should settle outside court.
The bolt driver was equally stubborn.

Being stubborn is not a crime. What are crimes are is physical assault, abuse of power, impersonation a of senator, and destruction of private property. All of these were committed by the representative.

Sleekfingers:
✓ . Now you know that , an average Nigerian talk foolishly and recklessly......instead of them to address the issues , they are focusing on his skin color.....
These same set of people will be shouting racism and discrimination in Europe etc

Nigerians are some of the most racist individuals even out in the west. They take that bias they have in Nigeria pretty much everywhere else and back.

MadPolitician:
✓ .. You gaslight and misrepresent facts.
✓ Looks like you're hired to do this, because your desperation to stand facts on their heads, while ignoring the jarring effects of these policies on the people of Nigeria, is suspicious

1. How exactly did I gaslight and misrepresent the facts? Be specific please!

2. My desperation comes from the fact that I do not wish to see the same scam played against Nigerians a second time around. I lived through IBB regime which did absolutely nothing to better the lives of Nigerians (Government embezzled billions of dollars while Nigerians suffered immensely), and when they cried out, they were told to blame it all on some foreign entity called the IMF and even the USA as well.i never understood what that whole was until years later when I was able to look into wyat happened during all of that time...why my family had to go from being very comfortable to having to manage and suffer even because Government said IMF did this and that. Through research, I was able to piece together what really happened, why the claims made by the government never made sense to begin with. I came to realize the fraud that IBB played on Nigerians who were generally gullible even at that time.

I don't get paid to debunk these lies Tinubu and co are loading up against the Nigerian people less than 30 years after it's first play. I do it because I don't like watching people suffer in ignorance.

Elsueno:
✓ You tulumbu urchins love capitalism abi? . U want ur marketers to lift oil on credit without settling payments ehn.
Nobody in their right sense would a accept credit from citadel of corruption( NNPC). They wasted 1.5 billion dollar loan, even $6 billion dollar from importers years ago still dey hang.
Dangote might be a monopolist, but NNPC na corrupt, incompetent & chronic debtor that spews lotz of lies

Again, where do you get that the marketers where attempting to purchase on credit from Dangote..it is a simple question and does not demand all of this unnecessary yapping.

lawani:
■ They are unique in that they are the only ones with caveats for unbelief. They insist God punishes people for unbelief.

So? If out of all 4000 known deities, 1000 of them decide to give what you refer to as caveats for unbelief, what does that have to do with anything? Is any crime being committed by the having of those or what?

lawani:
■ You refuse to agree that Christianity and Islam are stand alones despite all my efforts to make you see otherwise and all the evidence. I can not enter into your head.

Stand alone? That you have only been generally exposed to majorly those two does not in any way make them unique as far as religions are concerned.

lawani:
■ Approaching people to be taught or guided is the hall mark of every academic discipline

There is nothing spiritual about academic disciplines though. Also, many religious ideas are traded in academic settings. That does not make them any less religious, does it?