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nifemi25:
Amen.... Thanks a lot for the prayer ....

He is lying to you! Jesus Christ cannot help you or your ilk particularly since you are not of the blood of Jacob.

lawani:
■ Let me live anywhere. I at least am not confused about what I want unlike you. What even is your mission on naira land?

What you don't like is Christianity; your particular bias is against Christianity while you pretend your own religion is in someway better and less damaging than it to society. From where I sit, however, all religions — including yours — are the same.

lawani:
■ all this is to soften the ground for the court action that will be the climax of everything. It is the courts that will direct them to stop being incorporated or operating in public not me. Then people threatening law abiding people can not be described as law abiding people

Let me guess! You like to live in your head a lot, don't you? At least try to visit reality more often. No court of law would ban any one religion to make you or your particular religion feel better about itself!

lawani:
■ How can they say and be right that they have a need to be going about threatening law abiding people?.
■ Nobody has such a right. They threaten me daily is why I have interest in stopping them.
■ At least the none sense started two thousand years ago

You also have none of that right either but here you are threatening to have them, and not you, removed from public space.

2. They threaten you daily, then go sue them in the courts as the law allows you to do just that. Stop going around online whining; if there are persons who bully and threaten you, then take them to court. Be sure to film them bullying you and whatnot so you can make better of your case.

3. The nonsense did not start two thousand years ago. Rather the particular religion you seem to direct the bulk of your bias against started approximately 1600 years ago.

adeniyi65:
■ I don't know what you are trying to draw with the two references from OT. OT or these particular references don't against slavery in anyway. Rather, it was following the trend of slavery that had been happening before then till that moment. It's trying to have both the slave owners and the slaves as "believers". A process where the slave Christians will accept their tormentors to practice the religion together. We wouldn't disclaim the fact that OT goes soft on Slavery, but it doesn't see Slavery as Sin which is a serious sin across all nations' constitutions today. If OT highlights list of things we should stop doing that they are sin; why is slavery missing? These sins are man-made just as slavery. Why not highlighting slavery as well? Part of the sins that Bible against are these: adultery, backbiting, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred. Why is slavery not part of the sins that OT against? The answer is clear. God is ok with it(slavery).

Sins as listed in the Law of Moses are not man-made ideas as you would like to console yourself in thinking. They are rather ideas which the God of Israel opposed and as such made rules against in the land of Israel, particularly for those born of the blood of Jacob. For example, in the land of Israel, the constitution reads that those born of the blood of Jacob were not to blaspheme the name of the God of Israel — there does not seem an extension of the same towards those of foreign descent who were found in that same land.

2. Slavery isn't a sin; the same God commands His followers to submit to and obey Him — what slaves do — as their one and only master. He has His God-ordained slavery separate from that ordained by men over their selves. And those enslaved by Him enjoy benefits greater than those who do not in the land of Israel, according to reports in the book. So, you are in error here attempting to argue that since your human exposure to the idea of slavery is of the barbaric wickedness of men, therefore all slavery is wrong.

phorget:
Toh! The same government that causes the hardship that causes people to commit suicide, the same government are still the ones complaining about the high rate of suicide... Irony of Life.

And the same government people expect to solve the many issues it created.

Youareforgiven:
■ Religion cannot end. Man longs for that which is lost. Humanity yearns to return to his first estate in God but sadly they are going about it the wrong way.
■ Jesus said I am the Way to that which mankind seek for. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Religion is as old as man... Religion is man trying to take himself back to Eden(the presence of God). It can never end as long as mankind exist.

Religion cannot end because of the insatiable greed of men for power and control over their fellow men.

2. Stop mentioning Jesus Christ who never gave religion to any man; at least realize that he vehemently condemned the religious groups of his time to understand how he cannot be linked to such things. Oh, by the way, the religion of Judaism which Jesus Christ condemned is the same one that Christianity is fashioned from. Isn't that interesting?

Youareforgiven:
■ Christians worship one God, Jesus Christ the Beloved. The problem you are having is that you equate everyone as Christian because they dressed and behave like one.
What makes one a Christian is the doctrine and nothing else.

First of all, Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear that He was sent only to the Lost sheep of Israel meaning He can only serve those His Father had given to Him— all of them of Israelite descent.

Second, Christians do not worship one deity! Rather they worship numerous deities in the form of their many demoninations and/or gods-of-men. A typical Nigerian Christian, for instance, is more willing to die in the name of his/her pastor than in the name of the deity he pretends it all about.

Youareforgiven:
■ My claims are base on Jesus Christ, the truth, the way and the life.

This is a lie from hell, and you know it!

nifemi25:
God have mercy on me and let all the Goliath in my life be dead .....amen

Which God? I hope you don't mean the God of Israel who swore that HIs only inheritance in the world of men is those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their literal veins.

Your best bet is finding a god among the many Nigerian deities to cater to your needs rather than let people like OP continue to deceive and delude you into thinking some foreign deity is coming to save you and others in Nigeria. Look around at how the country has faired since the introduction of the ideas of these foreign deities to see for yourself that their major presence has been absent however the cruel lies and wickedness of Nigerians who claim to believe in them are everywhere to be seen.

MadPolitician:
■ Justice Liman Lewis, in August, denied Nigeria’s motion to dismiss the complaint filed by Mr Williams, who was scammed by the Nigerian government over a food importation business deal that cost him millions of dollars in 1986.
Not only was Mr Williams swindled of $6.5 million by the Nigerian government, he said he was also tortured by the SSS and tried for “economic sabotage” after he returned to Nigeria from the UK to retrieve the funds. He was sentenced to 10 years imprisonment in 1986 but left prison in 1989, having languished in jail for three years.
He got a presidential pardon from then military head of state Ibrahim Babangida in August 1993 and a “Fidelity Guarantee and Abiding Memorandum of Understanding of Assurance” for him to be paid approximately $6.5 million at 17 per cent compound interest on a rollover basis since 1986 and N5 million including a 25 per cent compound interest.
But the payment never came.

Na Babangida work be this? Over 30 years later, Nigeria still dey suffer because of them. Na wa o

If real, this man dey lucky say him fit take him case to a court outside of Nigeria. https://www.nairaland.com/8219490/must-see-why-these-nigerian#132103933

lawani:
■ Don't demolish me. Demolish my arguments instead. Religion itself is what kills and bullies in the public space and that is why it must be kicked out.
■ I don't have religious views at all. If I need spiritual help, I will go to experts and pay

Your argument is built on bias against a particular religion and your reasoning is that since you feel bullied by some of the teachings in that religion, the entire religion should be done away with. What can anyone do with that but call on you to grow a brain or something?

2. Yes you do have religious views of your claim. Earlier you had claimed all humans have some sort of spirituality, a claim equally believed by those who are religious. And there you acknowledge you also have your own gods-of-men whom you go to for help with your supposed religious problem just like those of the religion you condemn.

lawani:
■ A heavy burden on me is what you call none sense. Religion is what bullies and commit murders, why do you think it should be given a free rein?. Are you going to say religion does not bully and commit murder in the open?. Spirituality will remain an important economic sector after religion like it was before religion. May we all live to see the time

Now this amounts to senseless whining!

Most 21st Century Constitutions are clear on how bullies and murderers should be handled. The power to see to it that those who bully you or make attempts at your life at dealt with is in your hands. So I am not certain why you feel it makes sense to go around creating these threads trying to bully others for having religious views different from yours.

FriendsAndFans:
■ I like the law of Moses.And eye for an eye

The Law of Moses is the Constitutional Law of the Nation of Israel which existed in the Land of Canaan and was destroyed by the Romans back about 1900 years. (The nation itself is no longer but the Law was declared an eternal one, therefore the use of "is".) I don't what country you live in but I am certain the Constitutional Law in that particular land is clear on what should happen to anyone who violates any aspect of it.

lawani:
■ The purpose of this thread is to deal with those who threaten and kill people in.public on the basis of spirituality and not xenophobia and etc

Nonsense! You go around creating threads to attack people of other beliefs so you can pretend your own religion is better than theirs. That much is clear from your many posts on Nairaland.

Again, the law is clear on what should happen to those who bully and commit murder. Let the law handle it!

lawani:
■ So you think spiritualities that issue threats to unbelievers and kill dissenters in public are the same as those who don't?. Let us leave word usage for now

There are non-religious bullies and killers out there. The law is clear on how these things should be handled.

lawani:
■ Humans have always had spirituality. It is as old as language. Religion was developed recently.
■ When you say people that don't accept your spirituality face damnation, that is religion. I hope you get it

This is all rubbish talk that is born of religion!

2. That is merely your own interpretation of religion and is clearly born of bias towards particular religions.

lawani:
■ The only two badly packaged spiritualities are Christianity and Islam. Others are okay.

That is a ridiculous claim on your part.

lawani:
■ You have not taken time to read this thread carefully. Spiritualities not condemning unbelievers to damnation can't be grouped together with those that do.
■ The first step in the war against religion is to properly isolate Christianity and Islam. Religion started with Christianity two thousand years ago

So, because you have not heard the spin of spirituality that condemns those who do not believe their delusions to damnation, they should be allowed to roam free? Abegi! If you are going to ban religion in the public space then be fair enough to ban them all.

2. You come off as merely prejudiced.

lawani:
■ Why do you need to kick the local ones out. Nothing is wrong with traditional spiritualities. We can't kick God out of the society

You think it makes sense to discriminate against those you regard as foreign religions while you freely flaunt those you regard as local? You never even begin. People who think as you do are simply ruled by the same desires as those who run foreign religions. You lack the power and pull they do that is why you have yet to wreck the same level of havoc they have.

lawani:
■ Religion is adulterated spirituality. There is nothing wrong with spirituality but everything is wrong with religion.

There is nothing spiritual about religion as it is instead a scheme that takes advantage of those mentally vulnerable in society. What you refer to as your spirituality is itself a form of religion since the definition is ruled by the various ideas — opinions of individuals on these things.

lawani:
■ Why?. Is there any other solution?. Religion started with Christianity two thousand years ago and what it added to us are new reasons to.hate, fight and kill each other in the public. Don't you think it should recline out of public spaces? The foolishness that started one day will.end one day

This was what I was afraid of. This, by you, is merely some tirade against Christianity, isn't it?

Religion did not start with Christianity and it will not end if Christianity is done away with tomorrow. Religion is a man-made political scheme designed by men for their benefit.

777Likes9Shares:
■ Kick Islam and Christianity out of public space

All religions, even the local ones, would need to be completely kicked out of the space.

lawani:
■ There is no other way to control the rampaging religionists than to legally kick them out of the public space.
■ Their practice is not compatible with the progress of humanity and they should practice in private because of that while children are taught in schools that God is a gentleman

Unless you are willing to have banned all religions including your traditional institutions from the public space, I doubt you are going to get anywhere with this suggestion of yours.

2. Are we ready to adopt a secular nation that keeps religion out of the classrooms so children are instead trained in the ability to critically reason whatever ideas are presented to them either at home by their parents or in the future when leave the classrooms?

TinkTwice:
■ In order words.. Ladies are Saints. SMH.. Be careful oo.. Men are only being strategic because of what women have turnout to be.

Your reasoning is terribly hard to follow. How did you come to this conclusion from what I wrote? It can only come from some seriously religious level of mindfuckery! 🤔

Tayorshd87:
■ The game is determined by who the bell fell on. Meaning the person that commented is a woman so surely that's the side of the court she will see .Just to back up her gender.
■ Both male and female are culprit of cheating only that the society made it as if it's legal for men but illegal for women 🤔

It was a man on the radio who gave the confession.

2. Society is comprised of the opinions of the majority and it changes as time and minds change. So, I would not root my life on such things.

lawani:
■ Then do you really think that mass recall is the solution?.

It is the only unused card left on the table.

floss:
■ I thought Christians worship one God ? Which one is god of chosen again? First Christian’s started by differentiating church, now they’ve reached the stage of differentiating God… Christianity is a false religion I swear. Thank goodness I stopped listening to these business men called pastors and I stopped attending their business centres they call church

Christians cannot possibly worship just one god; consider the very fact that each of their gods-of-men by each teaching defines a different god— contradictions everywhere you look; with all of the different teachings. It becomes clear that there has to be more than a single god in the mix. It is the same with every religion out there.

budaatum:
■ Why nonsense? I enjoyed it myself. Especially since pastor chosen doesn't like being made a mockery of. Next video should be chosen built a mansion on the moon and drove to Mars .

What bothers me most is that all of his gullible followers would rather exist as slaves to men such as this in this life than see themselves as humans who deserve so much better than what they keep getting.

michael777:
■ Did you even read what was written? I don't think so...

I read what I could and realized almost immediately it was nothing but religious hogwash.

lawani:
■ It is a very expensive exercise. Then Nigeria is as it should be. If the country were organized with tax collection it would be different. As bad as things are, Lagos is different

I am afraid I don't follow. Recalling reps and senators is more expensive than allowing them to continue to plummet the country into debt through embezzlement of funds and other corrupt practices.

Lagos is different ... what has Lagos to do with this topic abeg! !

The courts may be corrupt but the one unused tool in the hands of Nigerians remains the power to take back their mandate from these lowlifes.