₦airaland Forum

Ojuntana:
So what's your template for restoring good governance in this circumstance

Section 69 of the law among others proffers on Nigerians, at all levels, the power to vote out those representatives that they are ready to he rid of. After they are removed, Nigerians can call for them to be equally prosecuted for crimes committed. Start by getting rid of the lower level snakes whom the high level ones depend on for their power. Then the people would have built up confidence enough to take on the snake at the top head-on

Ojuntana:
You kill the snake by cutting off the head
The govs, senators and reps know the president's got their backs. That's why they behave with impunity. The president and govs are playing ping-pong with the people as the egg.

So, you don't kill off the local snakes or the snakes at the state level. Or the snakes propping up the bad policies of the head snake, the president. In your mind, you are instead convinced that It is if and when you kill the head snake(the president) that you are rid of the other snakes? No wonder you lot never get anywhere. The problem stems from the way many of you reason..

Ojuntana:
Nigeria's stuck with him for the next four years. Nothing you say or do will change that
[b]The laws are in his sid[/b]e

The Law has never been one-sided. Rather, it is the people that have taken to abandoning the law altogether in their bid for good governance. That is the core reason why these men will remain in power even after all they criminal acts against the people.

Omalicious1:
∆ Because IMF supports their anti-people policies[

IMF's concern is getting the money it is owed back. the one's elected to concern itself with the people are your supposed government. So, why expect instead that IMF would care for you?

IamAsiri:
∆ Link how? Did I tell you that it was covered by the news? It was because I mentioned it to an uncle of mine who lives in Ogbomosho that a farmer can poison his farm if Fulani herdsmen keep disturbing him that he now went on to tell me the story of how a farmer tried it and got killed by a reprisal attack just because some of their cows died.

And csn this uncle of yours come online from ogbomoso to verify this tale of yours? Or it is impossible for him to do so?

Farmers use pesticides on their farms. Pesticides are said to be harmful to cows. And I have never heard of your particular tale since I have been paying attention to the cattle-herders-farmer issues in Nigeria..

Lumig:

These governors are the clogs in the wheel of progress of this country but we focus less on them due to sentiments against the FG and the president

You have that right! Nigerians are fixated on blaming just the President for their woes without realizing that starting right from their traditional rulers, their local government councilmen, their state representatives, governors, and even their senators and representatives at the national level, they can themselves do a lot to get rid of the unwanted elements.

Ojuntana:
You should also approve presidential minimum wage

Nonsense! The man is blatantly going against the people by this yet you are demanding he continue with issuing slave wages to the Nigerian people? Were are the balls on you people? Stand up and recall the eejit for Pete's sake!

Meti99:
When you are leading people and joy suddenly disappeared from people you are leading then something is wrong with your leadership...
It's not all about salary increments but people oriented leadership..
Quality life
Respect for rule of law
Returning power to the people
Rebuilding confidence in people to love their homeland than elsewhere

See these people never took power from the people. Rather, the people refused to take up the mantle of power which rightfully always belonged to them. The ones who first disregarded the law are the Nigerian people who chose to look away each and every time these politicians revealed their corrupt sides to them. By Law, Nigerians are able to recall by way of a vote of no-confidence their elected officials. But to date, Nigerians have never done that both at local, state, and National levels. The same law allows the people to demand the prosecution of those recalled by the people. So how can Nigerians, who themselves disregard the law, refuse to use their power and authority to ensure the system works on their behalf, and expect these criminals to stay in line? No be juju be that?

ojex004:
On 27 of June 2024, The people of taju bello/ toyin to giwa to oke aro of ifo in Ogun state protest of the bad roads that has been killing their people

Tell the people that all of that is akin to screaming on the internet. It will not work in Nigeria at all. They need to use to law to vote out those who are not working for them, starting at the local government level, to their state representatives, etc. The Law provides them a way to, as a community, recall these people. Democracy is the government of the people by the people. And until the people begin to use their power by law, they are as powerful as a limp dick or even slaves to those they elected into authority.

Zaheertyler:
No Nigerian graduate should earn less than 150000 Non graduates 80,000 in any firm Except sme But this one it's coming Lol

Naira 80,000 is slave wages. No Nigerian should earn anything less than Naira 128,000 as minimum wage for a full-time workload (approximately 40 hours a week). And minimum wage issue should be resolved this year and not next year or the year after that as is the typical ploy of our numerous politicians.

ijustdey:
■ The Nigeria Governors’ Forum has assured Nigerians and the organised labour that better minimum wage will result from ongoing negotiations.
The governors had previously rejected the Federal Government’s proposal of N62,000, stating that some states would need to borrow money to pay salaries.
Despite this, organised labour continues to demand a wage of N250,000.
The governors chose to hold an emergency meeting after the Federal Executive Council postponed the minimum wage discussion on Tuesday to allow President Bola Tinubu to conduct broader consultations.
According to a communiqué released after an emergency meeting that extended into the early hours of Thursday, signed by NGF acting Director, Media, Ahmed Salihu, the Forum discussed various issues impacting the nation.

A minimum wage of Naira 250,000 or about $162.29 will go a long way in helping better the Nigerian economy more than the pay of all of your politicians(many of whom spend the bulk of the funds they earn including that which they steal) have been able to in the last 64 years.

Nigerfine3:
I think most animals would walk away from plants that are not good for them, I mean the cows would be repelled.

Repelled by what exactly? The smell or the stench? What exactly?

In the same way that humans are not repelled by plants that are poisonous to them, Cattle are not repelled by plants that are poisonous to them. And worse, they don't learn from experience like humans can, meaning that a cow is likely to eat the same poisonous plant if it is not killed by it the first time it encounters it. That is why herders try to find feeding grounds for their animals that are free from these weeds.

Finding and planting local species of these Cattle-icidic weeds is a good idea to avoid introducing invasive species into these communities.
https://www.theafricareport.com/303984/kenya-farmers-watch-helplessly-as-noxious-weed-kills-maasai-livestock/

Jamestaiwo:
■ You just interpret your own meaning to this without understanding what He meant. The Bible is not word of God, but the Bible contains the word of God. The Word was made flesh according to John 1 vs 14. Jesus is the Word of God.
In the Bible, you will have the word of Men, words of Angels, Words of God and even word of Satan. Everything is truly stated but everything is not word of Truth, this is concerning the Old testament letters but we have the climax of truth explained in the Epistles. The Spirit of truth which is the Spirit of Christ was in Paul that made him wrote the Epistles... I can see that you just hear Dr. Abel to support your notions. .

I am afraid the one doing the interpreting is your person and not me here. I don't hear Abel Damina at all, mind you.

Paul himself said, on at least one occasion, that his comments were his opinions and not the Word of God. If according to you all of Paul's words are to be trusted then it means Paul was mistaken— not to be believed — when he said what he offered was his opinion and not the Word of God. This invariably means that you don't in fact trust(you can't trust what you don't believe) the words of Paul even as you assert that his word is to be trusted.

Do you see now how there are holes to be found in this twisted logic of yours that assumes that you can claim the Bible is not the Word of God while still pretending all of the same Bible has to be the Word of God? You can't have it both ways!

Jamestaiwo:
■ Show me where he said Paul's words are not to be trusted.

He said the Bible is not the Word of God, didn't He? Meaning every Word that is not the Word out of God's mouth is not to be trusted, is it not so? Paul's words are not the Word of God; Paul himself said this on more than one occasion. Are you saying Damina was ignorant of this fact when he made the statement that the Bible is not the Word of God?

IamAsiri:
■ Someone once told me about a farmer who tried to pull this kind of stunt in Ogbomosho some years back and how the herders went back to kill him.

Where? When? Any link to the story or where exactly it supposedly happened?

Many pesticides are equally poisonous to cattle. Have you equally heard tales of herders going back to kill farmers who use pesticides on their farms?

Nigerfine3:
I thought you would have mentioned some of the plants? Could you please?

I have not found information on cattle-poisonous plants in Nigeria or Africa, which is why I included the link to give an idea of plants out here that are noted as dangerous to livestock over here. But I intend to continue searching around to find plants local to even Nigeria in the next couple of days or weeks.
https://extension.umn.edu/forage-harvest-and-storage/plants-poisonous-livestock

gabbasin:
Did you read the story to the end? If you did, you would have known how she died.

Are you alright at all?

[quote author= post=130690518]"We’re raising funds in memory of Prudence Daniel-Obia."
Prudence, who became pregnant late last year, was eagerly anticipating her first childbirth.
With her new immigration status, she was excited about becoming a mother and starting a family with her husband.
Tragically, just three days after celebrating her 36th birthday, Prudence went to bed and never woke up. She passed away along with her unborn triplets, leaving behind her heartbroken husband and aged parents[/quote]Nonsense story! How did she die? Was it suicide and infanticide or what was it?

Georgry:
Any Southern Governor who can't pay 62k as minimum wage should resign immediately, let someone who can think out of the box occupy the position. 62k is barely 2100 daily which is not enough to feed anybody for a day, I wonder why anybody will want to work for 62k monthly in the first place, like how have you been able to feed yourself and your family. Ps. Prayers to anybody earning less than 100k monthly today while working to build someone else business or dream, we go get am clear one day.

Any governor not able to pay at least Naira 120,000 should resign from office and the state probably merge back into the entity it was carved out of. No human or Nigerian should be paid slave wages by their government, absolutely none!

Honestey:
Lagos paying 70K minimum wage already

In today's market, that amount is equally slave wage and should be rejected.

sulaak:
■ The recently completed Lagos to Ibadan railway is a modern SGR that will be extended to Kano. If Ibadan has an international Airport, it will serve as a conduit in the wilder SW for international travel, considering that the state now has better transport links.
■ Why would you want to fly from a domestic airport to Ibadan domestic airport to connect to Lagos?
■ It makes more sense to fly internationally from London to Ibdan and then take a train to Lagos. I grew up in Lagos but studied in UI; it took me less than 2 hours to get to Ibadan, and the majority of the time was wasted getting a bus from Suru-Lere to Oshodi (this wast the 1980s). Nigeria's problem is a lack of imagination; Nigeria is very poor today because the leaders and people are structured to survive and exploit their environment. However, if the country were developing, modern facilities would be required. t

1. Where is the information on this completed Lagos to Ibadan railway that is a modern SGR? How come my cousins in Ibadan don't even know where it is or how to use it? Kindly inform us.

2. What you just said does not compute at all. The question makes no sense to any of what I have said.

3. Storyland!

benardtotti:
■ Try not to be daft , you claimed in your previous quote developed countries practice taxes on bread and pads etc , just saying developed is generic and I helped you by breaking down some advanced countries and clearly stated you give us the timeline when they began taxing bread and Co. But since you are ignorant you have to save face by laughing all over the place like a slowpoke .

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Kobojunkie:
LOL.... There are developed countries where taxes are paid on such things. Cut the crap abeg!
2. Governing is different yet these kids showed that it ain't that different since in the end it should be about the people. What say you of this?

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Kobojunkie:
Oh! So, all currently developed countries in the world today followed the same developmental map/blueprint, abi? Na so your history teaches you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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benardtotti:
■ Since you have comprehensive knowledge kindly state the following;
1. What year did Britain, USA OR any other advanced country begin taxing bread , sanitary pad etc asides VAT ?
2. What was the production level of these countries and their income bracket ?
Let's begin the discourse from here
Its not enough to just bandy words give us facts then we can discuss l

Oh! So, all currently developed countries in the world today followed the same developmental map/blueprint, abi? Na so your history teaches you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

kedeojo:
And also Abia, Anambra, Delta. Abia State has not even implemented 30k current minimum wage now

Abia as a state should be reconsidered. Same with Anambra. They should probably be merged back to the states they were carved out of for common sense's sake.

seunayantokun:
■ This your outburst shows us all that your heart is full of hate.

Abeg get away!

benardtotti:
■ Are you trying to compare developed countries taxation system with 3rd World African countries ? Before you respond please note I am on a PHD towards political history and governance so be careful how you reply cos I will use you to test my thesis , it won't end well for you 😉

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 .. it seems you are struggling with comprehension there.

Kobojunkie:
The taxation did not begin after these countries became developed so your supposed point is in fact moot.

benardtotti:
■ You said it yourself developed countries not third world countries .

The taxation did not begin after these countries became developed so your supposed point is in fact moot.

Tommymoses:
Pls I need you suggestions and opinions on this matter! Am about to start farming, I don't know what to plant during this period. My plan is to plant Okro, maize and plantain plantation. Pls I need you opinion on it..

Farmers need to take a more meaningful approach to protecting their lives and livelihoods. https://x.com/i/status/1805170612219826525
▶ Plant weeds that are known to be poisonous to cattle(about 1 meter in width) all around the edge of your farm(length and breadth). Tell farmers in your communities to do the same. This way you all can create a no-cattle zone around your farms.
▶ Spread rumors throughout your local area of how weeds poisonous to livestock have been intentionally planted all around the area to deter cattle from eating up crops on farms. The information will help local livestock farmers protect their animals while also spreading the word about the danger the area poses to herders bringing cattle to forage in the area.
▶ Consider raising awareness in your communities of how they must boycott cattle and beef from these herders who don't seem to value their lives and livelihoods. A boycott will further deter herders from visiting the area altogether.
▶ Always document any issues and encounters with herders and their cattle. Collect video evidence, images of the suspected herders, and sample evidence. Post information on each encounter online. Additionally, distribute it to warn farmers all around your communities and area.

https://extension.umn.edu/forage-harvest-and-storage/plants-poisonous-livestock

naptu2:
9. The Forum discussed the minimum wage issues demanded by labour and unanimously agreed that the minimum wage should be reflective of the cost of living and ability to pay, and each State be allowed to negotiate their minimum wage. This led to the forum’s call for strengthening fiscal federalism and devolution of powers.

Sure, each state should be able to negotiate any value above, not below, the minimum wage. No man or government has the right to pay slave wages to its workers. Any governor unable to pay at least the minimum wage to its workers should be removed from office and the state considered for scrapping.

turmacs:
President bola Ahmed Tinubu, the destinies of 200 Million Nigerians are in your hands, please do not let us down.

This is a shameful indictment against the Nigerian people!

benardtotti:
■ First off to be honest the bill was not well thought out, I mean how can you tax bread and sanitary pads?
■ But it still doesn't remove the fact governance is different from politics and gimmicks , the reality when you enter office will make you take decisions you didn't prepare for ,except you want to deceive yourself and ride the storm Sam way buhari kept paying subsidy with borrowed funds.

LOL.... There are developed countries where taxes are paid on such things. Cut the crap abeg!

2. Governing is different yet these kids showed that it ain't that different since in the end it should be about the people. What say you of this?