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Michael547:
So God tells people to obey His laws and God also tells them to disobey his laws through the devil. How does this even makes sense to you?😁😁

Yes, God makes very good sense to me.

Michael547:
■ You are a very funny man.....was it not God that was speaking through the devil to Jesus according to you? So how does Jesus resisting the devil not mean that he was resisting God?

Pay close attention to what God said again in His Law so you understand where your reasoning fell off the rail.

5 So now I tell you to obey my commands and keep my agreement. So if you do this, you will be my own special people. The whole world belongs to me, but I am choosing you to be my own special people. - Exodus 19:5

To obey God is to resist the Devil(regardless of who you wish to believe is speaking through Him). God instructed His people to choose obedience. And obedience is counter to disobedience(embracing the devil).

15 “Today I have given you a choice between life and death, success and disaster.
16 I command you today to love the Lord your God. I command you to follow him and to obey his commands, laws, and rules. Then you will live, and your nation will grow larger. And the Lord your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to take for your own.
17 But if you turn away from your God and refuse to listen, if you are led away to worship and serve other gods,
18 you will be destroyed. I am warning you today, if you turn away from God, you will not live long in that land across the Jordan River that you are ready to enter and take for your own.
19 “Today I am giving you a choice of two ways. And I ask heaven and earth to be witnesses of your choice. You can choose life(good) or death(evil). The first choice will bring a blessing. The other choice will bring a curse. So choose life! Then you and your children will live.
20 You must love the Lord your God and obey him. Never leave him, because he is your life. And he will give you a long life in the land that he, the Lord, promised to give to your ancestors—Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.” - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20

To resist the Devil, Jesus Christ quoted the Law of Moses at him all 3 times. Why? Because God's instruction even after laying down both good(Life) and evil(curses) before His own was for them to choose Life(blessings).

turmacs:
■ That sh*t had me sad for days. I usually thought it was only people who struggle financially that opted for suicide. Never thought rich people too do that sh*t.

You didn't know before now that depression hits even the rich and famous?

bobontop:
■ You can't even express yourself. You are not making any sense.

I get tired of trying to make sense to you religious zombies from time to time. The information is presented right there even in the Law of Moses. you reject it because you don't care for it. And I would rather spend time calling you all out as agents of misinformation which you are than to waste it trying to get you to stop injecting your lies into the Words of a God whose truth you have no respect or regard for.

bobontop:
■ This is the part of the covenant that says any time ISREAL breaks the covenant, the land will vomit them out but when the repent, God will still bring them back to their land. ISREAL can never be destroyed.
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■ I don't know why you believed this lie that an European will leave all the comfort and prosperity of Europe and come to a desert land surrounded by wicked, treacherous enemies and be dragging land at the expense of his life and family. For what. Even ordinary common sense should tell you it doesn't make sense. Why will an European leave his citizenship that accords him honour and respect and enormous privileges and advantages and begin to claim Jewish citizenship that is saddled hatred, rejection, treats to life and antisemitism. Do you people think well at all or you just swallow all the girbrish illiterate terrorist imams dish out to you.

1. Again, all of this is so that you can declare that the God of Isreal who promised instead in Deuteronomy 30 that all the blessings and the curses defined in the Law including that in Deuteronomy 28 vs 15 - 57 which clearly details how God would curse and scatter the people of Israel after destroying the Nation to foreign lands where many of them will die off but their descendants would be eventually gathered back by Him back in His time to the Land of Israel, are all of no mind to you?

1 “Everything that I have mentioned will happen to you—both the blessings and the curses. And you will remember these words when the Lord your God sends you away to other nations.
2 Then you and your descendants will turn back to the Lord your God. You will follow him with all your heart and completely obey all his commands that I have given you today.
3 Then the Lord your God will be kind to you. The Lord your God will make you free again! He will bring you back from the nations where he sent you.
4 Even if you were sent to the farthest parts of the earth, the Lord your God will gather you from there and bring you back.
5 The Lord your God will bring you into the land your ancestors had, and the land will become yours. He will do good to you, and you will have more than your ancestors had. You will have more people in your nation than they ever had.
6 The Lord your God will make you and your descendants want to obey him.[a] Then you will love the Lord your God with all your heart. And you will live! - Deuteronomy 30 vs 1 - 6

2. You wish for me to come teach you history of the people who came back to occupy the current nation of Israel, abi?

bobontop:
■ This is the covenant God made with Abraham concerning his SEED who is Jesus Christ:
Genesis 22:16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
Genesis 22:17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
Genesis 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Verse 28 says in thy SEED SHALL ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH BE BLESSED.
NOT BY SCATTERING THE ABROAD.

See religious ignorance personified!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

sprints1:
■ interpreting the bible like a layman person...
■ When Jesus said it is easier for a camel to enter through the needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God... Na joke u call am...
■ Jesus did all he could to open you people eyes yet you people are still blind... Jesus was selfless and ready to speak the truth against all odds.... Oga go and sit down... Eternal life is not meant for people like you...

See... it is the foolish belief in interpretation nonsense that led you into the trap that is Christianity with its over 47,000 different interpretations(denominations) none of which remotely adheres to the contents of books that haven't changed in almost 2000 years.

2. You didn't bother to read what Jesus Christ said at all in that very same context when asked by the rich young man how to become perfect, did you? The command Jesus Christ gave to the rich boy right there in Matthew 19 applies to all who wish to become of HIm

20 The young man said, “I have obeyed all these commands. What else do I need?”
21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, then go and sell all that you own. Give the money to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven. Then come and follow me!”

When Jesus Christ said it would be easier for a camel to enter through the eye of a literal needle than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God, He meant it is pretty much impossible for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God. Why? Because one of the criteria for entering into the Kingdom of God set by Jesus Christ is that one has to lose the life he has to save it - Matthew 10 vs 34 - 39 & Matthew 16 vs 24 - 28 & Luke 17 vs 33 & John 12 vs 25 & Mark 8 vs 35–37 & Luke 9 vs 24–25 - where the life one has includes family, friends, properties, jobs/careers, reputation, etc.

In Matthew 13, by way of a parable, Jesus Christ described the Kingdom of God as a treasure that one has to sell everything he owns to purchase.

44 “God’s kingdom is like a treasure hidden in a field. One day a man found the treasure. He hid it again and was so happy that he went and sold everything he owned and bought the field.
45 “Also, God’s kingdom is like a merchant looking for fine pearls.
46 One day he found a very fine pearl. He went and sold everything he had to buy it. - Matthew 13 vs 44-46

To understand what is contained in Scripture, including the Words of Jesus Christ, you merely need to pay attention to His Words and Teachings.

3. Eternal life is not meant for people like me but it is meant for people like you who have no care for it.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Like I said previously, Eternal life and the chasing after of it was never meant for everyone to begin with. Jesus Christ said this over and over mind you but you lot never listen to Him!

sprints1:
God bless you... I came to this reality when I had a near death experience... There is more to life sir... Than chasing heaven... I believe good deed is paramount... Whether good or bad the universe has a way of doing things... John was very holy yet beheaded... Cain that killed his brother died normally.... Just be yourself don't live to please anybody just be yourself

Eternally life and the chasing after of it was never meant for everyone to begin with. Jesus Christ said this over and over mind you but you lot never listen!

Docodes:
■ what is in the scriptures is information that will save one from day of judgement.
■ There are a lot of secrets. What is the new name of Jesus. There are a lot of mysteries which is why the Holy spirit was sent to us.

1. There is no truth to that misinformation that you fed from the mouths of the religious who are described in Scripture as thieves who come to steal, to kill, and to destroy — scammers and liars!

2. Again, in those scripts you replay are the lies that were fed to you by those noted instead as scammers and liars in Scripture. Stop feeding off of the ignorance of others; begin now unlearning all that nonsense you have been previously fed as a gullible recipient of wisdom from notorious conmen. Go read the book of your own to learn what is in fact contained.

bobontop:
1. I didn't connect the 3 events but history did. Beginning from Moses in Egypt, Modicai in Persia, up till the ISRAEL war with the Arab world.. the dot connects. Even Doctors scientific research can draw some inference from your family history.
2. YAHWEH did not destroy ISREAL, he punished them for breaking the covenant he had with by dispersing them to different parts of the world. He later brought them back to their land, when their punishment was over also in accordance with the covenant. All the people you hypocritically call Europeans were Jews burn in exile. Jews can never forget their origin, religion and land no matter how long the spend in a strange land.
3. God promised Abraham that through his SEED, all the families of the earth shall be blessed. That seed is Jesus Christ. Through Jesus Christ the blessings of Abrahamic covenant has been extended to all the families of the earth.
■ This is the connection. I hope you will sit down and reflect on this things so that you will be saved.

1. Stop lying! There is no such connection between any of those stories that you pulled out of context there in other to spread disinformation typical of religion, Christianity included!

2. So you mean YHWH and Jesus Christ who affirmed what was to befall the remnants of Israel as a result of their sins against YHWH both lied??

3. God instead said all nations on the earth would be blessed, and He, YHWH said He would do this by scattering His people, Israel, to every tribe, every tongue, and every nation of this world. He never said everyone on earth would be blessed by HIm but rather that the nations would be blessed as a result of His plan — which entailed having descendants of Israel ruling over all nations and peoples - Isaiah 60.

4. Saved from what exactly since all you have done here is hide what are instead lies and deceitful tales behind the mentions of the name of God and Jesus Christ.

Mordecai:
■ Little by little, the sociopath you are is becoming glaring. You can't hide it for long. You have pretended to be a Christian for so long, so as to convince the Christians to support your LGBTQ cause. You also pretended to be a Christian so as to convince Christian married women to ditch their families and marriages. What kind of terrible, misguided advice have you not ditched out here on NL? It wasn't working. Now, the gloves are finally going off, revealing the depraved, sadist sociopath that you are. Brace up for depression. You will fail.

You Christians and disinformation are conjoined in your ignorance. I have never pretended to be a Christian, never have I claimed to hold any known religion out there.

Originalsly:
■ I hear you .... got the point you're making. This is the difference ... the ones that hold the inheritance .... do not subject themselves to the Srate of Israel.... they do not agree to any State of Israel nor for them to all ga5her in one place. They believe they must remain scattered throughout the world and come together only when the Meshiah is identified. They are waiting for their prophecy to be fulfilled according to the Torah .... and are totally against the present State of Israel .... 5he reason they don't fly the flag of Israel .... refuse to be drafted into the military.... and are e enough sent to prison for this refusal.
■ These are the Jews that are are organizing most of the pro Palestine protests now spreading a cross the world. These are the ones that are saying speaking up against Israel I not anti Semitism. There are Israelis .... and there are Jews. There are lots of fake"Jews" .... the ones that have no connection to Abraham nor Moses ..... straight up European atheists than claim to be Jews to migrate to Israel.... bringing their immoralities with them

Nah! Those are just ideas/interpretations held by some of the sects/denominations within the religion of Judaism. The religion of Judaism has its foundations beginning around the time before the people of Judah were taken into captivity and after the destruction of its sister nation, Israel. God of Israel— YHWH— is and has always been antireligion beginning with Judaism which is described by the prophets are the LovePeddler of Babylon.

2. The politics of this world and the different views they hold have nothing to do with the God of Israel or the inheritance He has given to the descendants of Abraham AND Isaac AND Jacob. Religion which is itself a political system has nothing to do with Him. Those agitating on either side of this are simply doing what they please while hiding behind the many mentions of God and Messiah in attempts to justify what are godless stances and ideas - political whims.

bobontop:
■ I FEAR WHO NO FEAR THE GOD OF ISREAL The other time, one man who was cursing Israel, fell down right there on the stage and later died. And now 3 helicopters left for the same destination, under the same weather conditions, 2 got safely to their destinations but the best one crashed. This is happening few weeks after the occupants of the crashed helicopter attacked Israel. We are indeed living again in bible times.
I am not against the dead, that is not my point but I am awed by the faithfulness of YAHWEH to a covenant of over 4000 years- "...I will bless them that bless you and curse them that cursed you". I have been very sober since yesterday. My faith in God and his covenants have soared.
PLEASE friends, don't let the devil deceive you. What happened yesterday was not a coincidence. It is consistent with bible and post-bible HISTORY - Esther 6:13 ...If Mordecai, before whom you have begun to fall, is of the offspring of the Jews, you cannot prevail against him, but shall surely fall before him.
This is the time to embrace God by giving your life to JESUS CHRIST, so that you too can connect to this UNFAILING COVENANT OF YAHWEH WITH JEWS. I am so glad I made that decision many years ago. I can sincerely testify to it, HE THAT WATCHETH ISRAEL NEITHER SLEEPS NOR SLUMBERS- Psalms 121:4 Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.The other time, one man who was cursing Israel, fell down right there on the stage and later died. And now 3 helicopters left for the same destination, under the same weather conditions, 2 got safely to their destinations but the best one crashed. This is happening few weeks after the occupants of the crashed helicopter attacked Israel. We are indeed living again in bible times.
I am not against the dead, that is not my point but I am awed by the faithfulness of YAHWEH to a covenant of over 4000 years- "...I will bless them that bless you and curse them that cursed you". I have been very sober since yesterday. My faith in God and his covenants have soared.
PLEASE friends, don't let the devil deceive you. What happened yesterday was not a coincidence. It is consistent with bible and post-bible HISTORY - Esther 6:13 ...If Mordecai, before whom you have begun to fall, is of the offspring of the Jews, you cannot prevail against him, but shall surely fall before him.
This is the time to embrace God by giving your life to JESUS CHRIST, so that you too can connect to this UNFAILING COVENANT OF YAHWEH WITH JEWS. I am so glad I made that decision many years ago. I can sincerely testify to it, HE THAT WATCHETH ISRAEL NEITHER SLEEPS NOR SLUMBERS- Psalms 121:4 Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.

You Christians are indeed evil! You lie and scheme using the name of God of Israel!

bobontop:
∆ The other time, one man who was cursing Israel, fell down right there on the stage and later died. And now 3 helicopters left for the same destination, under the same weather conditions, 2 got safely to their destinations but the best one crashed. This is happening few weeks after the occupants of the crashed helicopter attacked Israel. We are indeed living again in bible times.
∆ I am not against the dead, that is not my point but I am awed by the faithfulness of YAHWEH to a covenant of over 4000 years- "...I will bless them that bless you and curse them that cursed you". I have been very sober since yesterday. My faith in God and his covenants have soared.

PLEASE friends, don't let the devil deceive you. What happened yesterday was not a coincidence. It is consistent with bible and post-bible HISTORY - Esther 6:13 ...If Mordecai, before whom you have begun to fall, is of the offspring of the Jews, you cannot prevail against him, but shall surely fall before him.

This is the time to embrace God by giving your life to JESUS CHRIST, so that you too can connect to this UNFAILING COVENANT OF YAHWEH WITH JEWS. I am so glad I made that decision many years ago. I can sincerely testify to it, HE THAT WATCHETH ISRAEL NEITHER SLEEPS NOR SLUMBERS- Psalms 121:4 Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.

1. You creates are notorious for spewing the most ridiculous of things. How did you come about creating a connection between all 3 events and the God of Israel?

2. Faithfulness of YHWH? Why are you religious folks so dense. YHWH is recorded to have destroyed the very Nation of Israel (Judah included) that He created. Judah was destroyed 1900 years ago by Him. So where do you get this idea to now connect Him to what is taking place in a copy nation called Israel that was created by men in the same place?

3. You use lies born either of ignorance or disinformation to deceive people into believing in Jesus Christ? No wonder Christianity is split up into 47,000 different factions/denominations each peddling a different lie absolutely none of which aligns with Scripture.

Michael547:
∆ Oh so the devil does not even have a brain of his own?
Wow.
∆ So when Jesus told the devil to get away, he was actually telling God to get away.

So, in your mind, the only kind of brain that God was able to design and create is one that displays the human reasoning and will? 🤔🤔🤔

2. I don't follow your reasoning here at all. Devil is a tempter program planted by God in the worlds He creates by way of His Laws to test men with. How can Jesus Christ resisting the devil amount to Jesus Christ resisting God given that by resisting the devil He accomplished that which God had in fact instructed of Him which is to obey His Commandments and Teachings? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

Docodes:
exactly my point. I mean look at our lord Jesus on the cross calling out to the Father but he was snubbed. God is mysterious.

Jesus Christ was not snubbed by God. Jesus Christ outcry was instead to announce what has befallen Him at that point I'm time due to the curse which came upon Him as a result of hanging on the cross to die. He was a righteous man and the righteous are Sons of God. However, due to the curse, He lost His status. (That which is cursed by God is an abomination to God.) That cry was to confirm He had been damned by the Law for hanging on the tree to die.

If you read what Jesus Christ Himself said in John 10 vs 10 - 18 of His death, you would find that Jesus Christ did not need saving even while hanging on the cross. He laid down His own life and Had power to pick it back up again of His own ability --- no third- parties needed.

2. God is not mysterious. There is more than enough information contained in the Book of Scripture to draw a clear enough profile of His being and the relationship between Him and those whom He chose to enter into contract with by way of His Laws and Covenants. You only need to open your mind to allow that information seep. This is not to tell you to believe in Him or simply but asking you educate your mind rather than continue to cling to ignorant ideas that themselves have no bearing in what is in fact contained in the book.

TiglathPILESER:
the wiser one becomes the higher your status in life and position in the affairs of men....now it does not matter whether this wisdom is Godly or demonic? I didn't quote you the sooner you realize you are a dead tail of a living horse the better for you...

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 see 419 scheme wey this one never even decode for himself at this point in life.

Wisdom has absolutely nothing to do with any of what you described abeg. Only those who are schemers seek status as reward for their many schemes. That is why you have many CEOs and whatever you never them eventually ending up in jail after many years of supposed rise in status. Wisdom has nothing to do with all of that.

brutal1:
sore loser you should grow some balls and be able to engage in both ways, i am the least religious human on earth, i dont even believe in it but because you dont have the energy to engage in a troll or constructive positive engagement, you quickly tied it to religion. Listen kid, here is not for the weak, so crawl back to your hole and suck a door knob on your way. I hope your shitty madre has a back up child otherwise she will have to take solace in her neighbour's children cos you fit the word affliction. Prepare for the morgue boy, you dont deserve to breath

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brutal1:
Your mother must be in severe pain for the rest of her worthless life i mean if you are her only child, she's as good as still barren if this is how your brain works. Go dr1nk cold bottle of sn1per boy

Congratulations!! Give it up to the true Christian of the day. ,😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

They can't resist what is their core programming at all. The moment you corner a Christian, the inner venomous, and true face they typically hide behind the mentions of the name of God and Jesus Christ is bound to be unleashed.

Michael547:
∆ But you've stated that the devil is God's quality control manager and that God sends him to tell people to go against his will. Do you mean that the devil does not have freedom of choice to refuse to go and convince people to disobey God?

Freedom of choice? The devil? You mean like instead of him doing which he was meant to do according to God's pre programming of him from his beginning, the devil would choose to go against his core programming and maybe try to do good ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

D4gmail1:
■ Don't be myopic. If you believe God can put his leg on the Earth as a foot stool then you must be thinking really really small of yourself and obviously you serve a small God. The Earth is smaller than a grain of sand when compared to the vast Universe 🌌. If someone can use the Earth 🌍 as a foot stool then it means there is someone else bigger than him who owns or controls the vast Universe, "The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool" this statement is an Esoteric statement meaning the Earth is under his command. Not someone placing his leg on Earth 🌍.
■ God is everything and everywhere. God is the Universal Energy that dwells in us that is having an earthly experience.

So far so good!

2. Say what now?

MysteryofLight:
■ Believe it or not,someday you will end up in either heaven or hell. But if you continue like this,it will surely be hell:A place of pains,sorrow,regrets torments etc.

I am afraid their is not truth to your claim!

essentialone:
Very true. Some are real. Most are scammers.

Stop lying! They are all frauds!

abfelicity91:
■ A friend of mine asked this question, "What is your purpose in life"? Since the discussion was all about the bible, I said my purpose in life is "To live in righteousness and to glorify the name of the Lord"
This Mummy G.O type of Aunty no gree for this one oo, she said that was not the correct answer and that before you were been formed in a womb, God already stated who you will become in future and by that, everyone knows who He/she would become.
It was a lengthy argument and I can't type them all here. Biblically and not based on individual goals and pursuits, arguing from the Bible, What is your purpose in life? I need the right answers. She said a person who goes through the hardship of this world to study and eventually becomes great in his field of study such as an engineer or general manager in any high-profile organisation has not fulfilled the purpose of Life.

So why didn't you ask her first where in Scripture all of these claims she stated are presented in clear-speak before you came reporting her to us. That way we can refute or support her claim scripturally. I suggest you go back and ask her, and come back to update us!

Vision101:
■ Faith doesn't align with rationality. Rationality says seeing is believing but faith says believe and you will see.

Lies upon Lies! It is instead the Christian religious idea of faith which has nothing to do with Scripture by the way, that defines reason.

Vulcan24:
■ It makes me a special being and it's from an Almighty God ! I don gibe u another headache

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Special my arse when you admitted that even the wicked and ungrateful enjoy the same luxury from some of the same sources as you! Did you miss out on the definition of the word special or something?

spe·cial

(adj) better, greater, or otherwise different from what is usual.
(noun) a thing, such as an event, product, or broadcast, that is designed or organized for a particular occasion or purpose.

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Vulcan24:
■ It is a unique and wonderful experience for me! U av no personal experience with God and ur life needs some uniqueness! Pray to God for divine intervention!
■ Don't be frustrated by my claim, it's my belief ! Live and let others live, freedom and right to belief is fundermental! Y u disturbed ?

Your "unique wonderful experience" clearly shared by many millions from all over the world is not unique to you though since many people have been equally credited by their own banks courtesy of their own gods, a reality you have so far admitted to.

2. I am not frustrated but merely pointing out the fact that this claim of yours does not make you a special being but just another human being with a god of men delusion.

Mercisharelove:
■ Your voice is human, have you listened to yourself before? Read your sentence? Oh I see, it's difficult because your heart is blind! And you believe you can see, wow!

Spoken like a true Christian. Attacking me rather than addressing that pointed out in the post .🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Michael547:
■ You are funny....is that the question I am asking? Is the devil under any law whatsoever? Yes or no?

Is it stated anywhere in Scripture that the devil is under some special contact with God? You tell me given that my "I don't know since I don't have any evidence of such" responses up until now do not seem to satisfy you at all.

Michael547:
■ So the devil has not been under any law/will of God?

Again, If you are asking if the God of Israel gave us the employment contract between Him and the Devil, the answer is that it is not recorded in Scripture. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Michael547:
■ What was the law that existed before Adam and God?

Before? How the fk am I supposed to know that?

Michael547:
■ Are you saying that it is only the law that God gave to the people of isreal and Christians that exist?
■ Are there no laws in heaven?

1. Where in the world do you get that notion from? Certainly not from any of my retorts so far given that earlier I had mentioned that a Law existed even before Adam and God. How did you miss that one?

2. If you are asking if the God of Israel gave us the employment contract between Him and the Devil, the answer is that it is not recorded in Scripture. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣