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FatherCHRISTMAS:
■If you can imagine it, it can be conceived. So it's not as if the idea/action/thought aren't coming from you. Or where is it coming from?

I don't bite down on meaningless motivational speech! Ideas/actions/thoughts that come from a temporary delusion cannot be considered to be of me. it is instead of the delusion!

immortalcrown:
You are just a sentimentalist. Otherwise, explain how your claim is implied in my comment.

How can my claim be implied in your comment when it instead points out the illogicality of your claim? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

immortalcrown:
You are just a sentimentalist. Otherwise, explain how your claim is implied in my comment.

How can my claim be implied in your comment when it instead points out the illogicality of your claim? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

immortalcrown:
You are just a sentimentalist. Otherwise, explain how your claim is implied in my comment.

How can my claim be implied in your comment when it instead points out the illogicality of your claim? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

AbuTwins:
∆ The title states mistake and so it is!

From dealing with you religious folks, I have learned it is better to dot tge t's and i's than not.

AbuTwins:
∆ Did you see any contradiction claim therein?
Matthew mistakes Jeremiah for Zachariah!

You have made several false claims of the sort before now. So I feel it is important to point out that this cannot be considered a contradiction either.

FatherCHRISTMAS:
■ Good! This worked like it wanted It to
so let's assume Kobojunkie is God, if you created the chicken, isn't the chicken your ideas and creation?
If it's your creation, doesn't that mean you are manifesting your ideas and creation in the form of a chicken?

Nope! Because the idea/action/thought may instead be a manifestation of a temporary delusion of mine, and nothing more. I would never conclude that my mistakes and regrets are a manifestation of my being.

EmperorCaesar:
■ And for those guys that are quick to help a lady they were suree never gonna meet offline, u think they don't wanna manage their own resources toi

Even a gal like Bobrisky is able to get money from them so what do you think?

FatherCHRISTMAS:
■ OK quick one... Do you believe in God.? Which of this two did create first? the chicken or the egg that first

Don't worry about what I believe. Worry instead about whether or not these claims of yours align with Scripture or not. God created everything(including chicken and egg) is a statement that aligns with Scripture.

immortalcrown:
You are just a sentimentalist. Otherwise, explain how your claim is implied in my comment.

How can my claim be implied in your comment when it instead points out the illogicality of your claim? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

AbuTwins:
Judas Hangs Himself - Matthew 27:9-10- See Matthew's Prophecy of Jeremiah in red
Then what was spoken through Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled: “ They took the thirty pieces of silver, the price set on Him by the people of Israel, and they gave them for the potter’s field, as the Lord had commanded me.
Where did Jeremiah say this in the Bible? Nowhere!!
Here is the closest verse:
Thirty Pieces of Silver- Zechariah 11:12-13
Matthew did quote Zachariah as Jeremiah albeit wrongly too!

Yes, this is one of the errors found in Matthew's account! Is it a contradiction? Absolutely not!

immortalcrown:
You are just a sentimentalist. Otherwise, explain how your claim is implied in my comment.

How can my claim be implied in your comment when it instead points out the illogicality of your claim? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

FatherCHRISTMAS:
■ You are confusing yourself.

Your particular confusion is not mine at all!

immortalcrown:
You are just a sentimentalist. Otherwise, explain how your claim is implied in my comment.

How can my claim be implied in your comment when it instead points out the illogicality of your claim? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

FatherCHRISTMAS:
■ Are you going to deny your own subjections now? E don reach that level? 😂😂

I never asked you whether God created Satan or not since I never used those exact words. I instead asked you if Satan is equally a manifestation of the divine. Clearly, I do not buy into your religiously tailored definition of the word manifestation.

When you clearly consider the meaning of the word manifestation, you will find that ....

man·i·fes·ta·tion

▶ an event, action, or object that clearly shows or embodies something, especially a theory or an abstract idea.
▶ the action or fact of showing an abstract idea.
▶ a symptom or sign of an ailment.
▶ a version or incarnation of something or someone.
▶ an appearance of a ghost or spirit.

God created Satan IS NOT Satan is a manifestation of God.

FatherCHRISTMAS:
■ I see you are stylish trying to run away from your flawed "chicken" question which I have answered to enlighten you.
■ Don't limit your thinking. He is a divine being that manifest in what humans consider a miracle. You yourself, Kobojunkie, is a tool. That's why you are able to raise questions so others can learn

1. Flawed Chicken question? I asked you a simple question to ascertain the meaning of a claim that you made... Everything is a manifestation of the divine... a claim which turned out was not only unscriptural but also born of your own ideas of the meaning of the word manifestation. How is the question to blame for that?

2. My thinking isn't the problem here. Rather, it is the many religious claims you religious folks like to believe that is. The problem is in the end you get yourselves tangled up in wards of confusion by these many soundbites that even the dictionary cannot with. So, it isn't just everything that is created that is a manifestation of the divine but even miracles are a manifestation of the divine including all chaos as well? How is this any different from Buddhism or something along those lines?

AbuTwins:
■ Mention who the others where?

Let me guess, If I don't give you names, then they do not exist? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

AbuTwins:
■ Jesus was talking to Peter and the others! They were 12. And there was no one else with them!
This is not about being religious! You're just being dogmatic on error!

Stop lying! There were more than 12 of them. Even the rich young man almost joined the ranks of the disciples only he did not have the stop to abandon it all like Peter had pointed out the rest of them had had to do. The Gospels record that there were at least 500 followers of Jesus Christ, including His mother mind you, by the time He was to die and was eventually raised from the dead. The only reason you continue to harp on just the first 12 is because you wish to ignore what the entire Gospel says so you can find faults were none exists.

FatherCHRISTMAS:
■ So answering your question means I'm derailing?

LOL.... I didn't ask you whether God created the devil or not. So how does asking whether I believe that or not constitute answering my question?

immortalcrown:
You are just a sentimentalist. Otherwise, explain how your claim is implied in my comment.

How can my claim be implied in your comment when it instead points out the illogicality of your claim? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

AbuTwins:
■ Anyways it's your words Vs the context of the verses quoted earlier!

You religious individuals are very easy to read.

The context of the verses says nothing of 12 disciples! Your attempt to inject that into the context is rather what fails here.

FatherCHRISTMAS:
■ So you mean God didn't create the devil?

Also, contact the dictionary people to add your own particular definition of this word into the list...

man·i·fes·ta·tion

▶ an event, action, or object that clearly shows or embodies something, especially a theory or an abstract idea.
▶ the action or fact of showing an abstract idea.
▶ a symptom or sign of an ailment.
▶ a version or incarnation of something or someone.
▶ an appearance of a ghost or spirit.

FatherCHRISTMAS:
■ So you mean God didn't create the devil?

Stop derailing your own thread abeg! And pay attention!

Kobojunkie:
This is all untrue since the same most high never said, later in His Law, that He needed any tools in the hands of any man for Him to work wonder in and through His own.

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FatherCHRISTMAS:
Everything thing on earth is a manifestion of the divine being. That make it all a tool within a tool. Layers of tools

I asked you for over a page now what you meant by your comment above, and now I know that you simply literally translated the fact that He created everything to mean that everything on earth is a manifestation of the divine being.

This further goes to prove wrong the claim you made in your OP though. If everything is a tool... even the man himself is a tool, then where does your claim that God requires a man to have a tool in hand before he can do anything come from? Again, everything is a tool!

immortalcrown:
You are just a sentimentalist. Otherwise, explain how your claim is implied in my comment.

How can my claim be implied in your comment when it instead points out the illogicality of your claim? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

immortalcrown:
You are just a sentimentalist. Otherwise, explain how your claim is implied in my comment.

How can my claim be implied in your comment when it instead points out the illogicality of your claim? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

FatherCHRISTMAS:
∆ Yes he is

Be sure to write your own dictionary to include this new definition of yours for a word which does not have the kind of meaning you have conveniently created for yourself in this case. 😁😁😁😁😁😁

immortalcrown:
You are just a sentimentalist. Otherwise, explain how your claim is implied in my comment.

Explain how suggesting there are Jews and gentiles in Every gathering is borne of ignorance of the religious kind? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

immortalcrown:
Prove your point.

My point it that claim of yours regarding every gathering is a stewpid attempt to excuse what is the mistake that is religion.

immortalcrown:
See a sentimental interpretation.

Sentimental? aThis from the one who made a ridiculously stewpid claim -- a generalization to be exact. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

FatherCHRISTMAS:
∆ So that's God manifesting. He is manifesting though everything he had spoken into existence in the world and beyond

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By your conclusion then, we could equally also state then Satan is a manifestation of God, right? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😅😅😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😅😂😂😅

immortalcrown:
Every gathering has Jews and Gentiles.

Every Gathering? See religious excuse!

Michael547:
∆ Lol....at the bolded.....so where does the scripture sort of depicts the devil as God's quality control manager?
Where does the scripture say that the devil cannot go against the will of God?
Where does the scripture say that the devil has been preprogrammed by God?
Start quoting the verses.

I see you are just here to waste my time given we already went through this on a previous thread. So, I will leave to it.