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Seagodess:
■ any power uv got.. you think this life is ordinary na.. you don't believe there are powers..■ because you Saw man displaying God's super natural power you are doubting him..
■ so let's see if you have any?

LOL... I have no superpowers since I am a human being.

2. I didn't see any man displaying God's "supernatural power". And if you are by any chance referring to the God of Israel — YHWH— and His Son, Jesus Christ, I am afraid you are terribly mistaken.

21 “Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants.
22 On that last Day many will call me Lord. [color=#990099]They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God[/color]. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’
23 Then I will tell those people clearly, ‘Get away from me, you people who do wrong. I never knew you.’ - Matthew 7 vs 21 - 23

If that were the case— you assume this man is connected to YHWH and Jesus Christ, then what I see is a man scamming his audience using the name of a God who does not even know Him at all.

3. Since you claim to have powers, do let us know what they are. Are you able to fly? Please, I am curious.

Seagodess:
let's test powers.. set the time and stop ranting.. your type full nairaland here..

Huh? Test what powers?

Maysdevices:
∆ What if He is genuine? Has life not taught you enough that most of your opinions turn out to be wrong and not everything is as it seems?

Genuine in what sense?

Maysdevices:
Use a search engine

You first have to give me name for the deity in question. I need a name to search with

ChybuzzDD:
■ These bullshits you wrote are not applicable and implementable in African societies.

Because African societies in general are incapable of applying common sense, abi? It is African heritage to wallow in foolishness at all costs.

optm:
■ I couldn't help but laughed at how you twist scriptures. To you Jesus is the type of leader that says do what i say and not what i do. This is really funny.
■I am done with you. I am not stretching this further.

Be very specific! Which of the Scriptures do you accuse me of twisting so we can examine what is in fact written and compare it to what I stated since I don't deal at all in interpretations or twisting of scripture? That is solely the purview of the religious-minded.

2. Oh no!

AbuTwins:
■ He gave his only son as a ransom!
John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
■ Hebrews 9:28: "so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him."
Romans 5:8: "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
1 John 4:9-10: "This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins."
The holistic translation of all this is that God basically sacrificed his son...

1. So, it was not Jesus Christ that made this statement and definitely not the God of Israel either, meaning your OP is wrong regarding the God of Israel — YHWH — and His son, Jesus Christ then, yes? I say this since you were not able to show that John 3 vs 16 contains the claim that you made against God of Israel!

2. There is nothing "holistic" about your special interpretation of the contents of those 3 verses which you conveniently pulled out of context there. The passage below, in the very words of Jesus Christ Himself, explains what the sacrificing was all about.

14-15 “I am the shepherd who cares for the sheep. I know my sheep just as the Father knows me. And my sheep know me just as I know the Father. I give my life for these sheep.
16 I have other sheep too. They are not in this flock here. I must lead them also. They will listen to my voice. In the future there will be one flock and one shepherd.[a]
17 The Father loves me because I give my life. I give my life so that I can get it back again.
18 No one takes my life away from me. I give my own life freely. I have the right to give my life, and I have the right to get it back again. This is what the Father told me.” - John 10 vs 14- 18

The one who did the sacrificing was Jesus Christ. He put down— sacrificed— His Life and He picked it back up again— all of His very own Power and Will....

sac·ri·fice
▶ an act of slaughtering an animal or person or surrendering a possession as an offering to God or to a divine or supernatural figure.
▶ an act of giving up something valued for the sake of something else regarded as more important or worthy.
...

...and for His own gain - John 17 vs 1- 10 !

AbuTwins:
John 3:16

Please be more specific as simply listing a random verse does not help us out here at all.

Jesus Christ, the one who made the statement found in the passage instead insists that in much the same way God gave the Bronze snake to the Israelites in the desert as a path to redemption, He too was being given to the Israelites who were condemned of His time so that they no longer be condemned.

14 “Moses lifted up the snake in the desert.[a] It is the same with the Son of Man. He must be lifted up too.
15 Then everyone who believes in him can have eternal life.”
[b]16 Yes, God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life. - John 3 vs 14 - 16

So, how could the above passage be the response to the question I had asked earlier of where exactly is it written that the God of Israel — YHWH— sacrificed His son?

optm:
■ Also if you are interpreting the scriptures by letters then all you should say when you pray would be the words of Jesus in Matthew 6 vs 9 - 14.
■ Now tell me if in all the times Jesus prayed, these were the words he was repeating? When Jesus went with the disciples to pray, why did he not get a room and shut the door since that was his recommendation? why did he go with his disciples since he needed to pray in secrete? Of course we can tell he prayed for more than an hour hence he scolded them of their not being able to watch with him just for 1 hour. Do you mean all Jesus was reciting was Our Father who art in heaven prayer? let me know what your answers are .

1. That is pretty much what I do when I pray. I say it as Jesus Christ taught us to say it in Matthew 6 vs 6 - 15.

2. You are not paying attention at all to Jesus Christ, are you?

Recall that Jesus Christ lived under the Old Law of Moses which operated as the Law in the nation of Judah in the land of Canaan at the time. And if you search through the Old Law of Moses, you wouldn't find the same restrictions as the one Jesus Christ handed to His followers anywhere in that Law, not at all. So, Jesus Christ had no reason to pray according to Matthew 6 vs 6-15 when the Law of Moses did not stipulate that He should do any such.

However, Jesus Christ called His followers to a different Law and Kingdom entirely from that which He lived under. Yes, His followers are called to abide by His own Law — Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments —, the Gospel and the Truth of God in the Kingdom of God. Under the Gospel are the teachings and commandments which include the one expressed by Him in Matthew 6 vs 6 - 15. And we know that Jesus Christ made known that those who love Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments— not those who do the things He did. What this means is that anyone who thinks it makes sense to copy Jesus Christ is only fooling Himself because Jesus Christ made clear that His friends are those who do as He says, implying that His enemies do not do as He says.

optm:
■ That's the point. One must be able to balance scriptures and apply appropriately. you see when Jesus was talking about prayer in secrete, he was addressing the motives of the pharisees in the wanting to be seen during prayers. He even said they stood up in synagogues while they are praying in order to be seen. he was addressing their motives behind the manner in which they offered prayers. you shouldn't apply scriptures out of context.
■ pastor Jerry Eze leading the people in prayers isn't with the intention to show off. That scripture wouldn't apply in his case.
■ oh but if you say we shouldn't pray in public and you say the church is a public place, then prayers should not be offered in Churches. ■ If you say this, then how do you explain the words of Jesus when he said "My house shall be called a house of prayer" in Matthew 21 vs 13.

1. Here's a very simple question for you! Point out the exact portion of the statement made by Jesus Christ that suggests this "motive" you insist upon. Be specific, please!

5 “When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites. They love to stand in the synagogues and on the street corners and pray loudly . They want people to see them. The truth is, that’s all the reward they will get.
6 But when you pray, you should go into your room and close the door. Then pray to your Father. He is there in that private place. He can see what is done in private, and he will reward you. - Matthew 6 vs 5 - 6

2. Where did Jesus Christ specify that Matthew 6 vs 6 - 17 —and the rest of His Gospel Law of the Kingdom of God — should not be applied in this Jerry Eze case? Where is this exemption you claimed stated in the Law that is the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Be specific, please!

3. Jesus Christ condemned the offering of prayers in public places. Jesus Christ made it clear that no man who belongs to Him should offer prayers in public places. What your churches do has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ. So, if you are attempting to assert that because your churches pray in public it must mean that Jesus Christ did not say it is wrong to pray in public, then you are simply asserting your antiChrist stance as Jesus Christ said those who don't belong to Him would do.

4. The Temple in Jerusalem, which was the House of God— YHWH—, was the house Jesus Christ said that about, this while quoting the Prophets.

5 So I will put a memorial stone in my Temple for them. Their name will be remembered in my city! Yes, I will give those eunuchs something better than sons and daughters. I will give them a name that will last forever! They will not be cut off from my people.
6 “Some foreigners have chosen to follow the Lord. They do this so that they can serve him and love his name and be his servants. They keep the Sabbath as a special day of worship, and they will continue to follow closely my agreement.
7 So I will bring them to my holy mountain and make them happy in my house of prayer. The offerings and sacrifices they give me will please me, because my Temple will be called a house of prayer for all nations.” -
8 The Lord God said these things. - Isaiah 56 vs 5 - 8

The temple mount in Jerusalem is God's Holy mountain. There is no other holy mountain or Temple of YHWH— Jesus' Father— Here on earth.

8 “‘But you are trusting lies that are worthless.
9 Will you steal and murder? Will you commit adultery? Will you falsely accuse other people? Will you worship the false god Baal and follow other gods that you have not known?
10 If you commit these sins, do you think that you can stand before me in this house that is called by my name? Do you think you can stand before me and say, “We are safe,” just so you can do all these terrible things?
11 This Temple is called by my name. Is this Temple nothing more to you than a hideout for robbers? I have been watching you.’” This message is from the Lord. - Jeremiah 7 vs 8 - 11

There is no other Temple on this planet that is called by the Name of the God of Israel — YHWH — the Father of Jesus Christ, except the Temple which was destroyed by YHWH— God of Israel— almost 1900 years ago.

optm:
■ I am talking about the temptation of Jesus where the devil lifted up passages of the scriptures. If Jesus ran with just letters and couldn't balance scriptures and know by the spirit how to apply it , he would have fallen to the temptation of the Devil.
■ Hence it is written in the scriptures that the letter killeth and it is the Spirit that gives life.
■ Just applying a part of the scriptures just like the pharisees would, is disastrous. I can point you to places where the pharisees also quoted scriptures and Jesus countered them.
■ As a believer in Christ Jesus, one must be able to balance scripture with scripture and by the Spirit of God

1. Jesus Christ, who lived His Life in complete submission and obedience to God's Law at the time—The Law of Moses—, is quoted from the very same Law in His counter to Satan. Yes, Jesus Christ ran with the very Letters of the Law as His counter for Satan.

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▶ Jesus Christ's response noted in Matthew 4 vs 7 is taken from the book of the Law, Deuteronomy 6:16.
▶ Jesus' response in Matthew 4 vs 10 is taken from the book of the Law Deuteronomy 6:13.
▶ And Jesus' response in Matthew 4 vs 4 is taken from the books of the Law, Deuteronomy 8:3.

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All 3 responses given by Jesus Christ to Satan's advances were taken straight from the Law of Moses — the Letter of the Law.

2. I am afraid you misconstrue what Paul meant by that statement which you quote there. It does not mean any of what you think it does. And it has little to nothing to do with this here topic or conversation. As you can see from the above point, Jesus Christ used the Law to fight back against Satan, and in much the same way, His followers are encouraged by Him to abide by the Law that is Him — use His teachings and commandments to fight off temptation — so that He too may continue to abide in them - John 15 vs 7 - 11.

3. But that is exactly what you have been desperately trying to do to this point. And sure, go for it! Point me to where they attempted to quote scripture and I will show you how it was all out-of-context, same as Satan's attempts against Jesus Christ.

4. Look, Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who abide by His teachings and commandments— God's Law and Truth in the Kingdom of God. I quoted His teachings and commandments to you earlier— the Letter of the Law that is Jesus Christ. That you think of them as unbalanced, is not of Jesus Christ at all.

HRMK:
these are cars purchased with donations from the members!the money is not that of the pastor but the members!!

No be the same thing your own pastors dey do too be that? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

optm:
■ Just imagine what would have been of Jesus if he couldn't balance the scriptures and fell to the devil because he used specific verses of the scriptures.
■ Kobojunkie i am done with this talk as you already have a motive. If you are ready to dig into scriptures, answer the questions i asked you .

1. I don't even understand the question.

2. One thing Jesus Christ pointed out when it concerns the religious-minded is that they need to keep those goggles that keep them blind to — and removed from— the truth at all times. Here you are confronted with the fact that Jesus Christ said those who are of Him do not pray like Hypocrites where a third party can see or hear them. Rather than accept the Truth of Jesus Christ and gain an understanding of the difference between His Kingdom and that of men, you chose to downplay and even cast Jesus Christ as some sort of liar in other to lift Jerry Eze above Him.

You obviously don't agree with Jesus Christ— you don't seem to care at all for what He has to say at all— so why pretend to believe Him at all? What do you gain by it given that Jesus Christ promised His standard will never be lowered to fit in any, not even you or your Jerry Eze? Why not worship Jerry Eze alone in truth and openness?

donforeign:
not a junkie like you .boy bye

LOL... look at this one!

optm:
■ you are deliberate about opposing what God is doing through him.
■ The wise ones know better than to be mislead with what you put up as regards this topic.

1. Are you insinuating that God changed His mind and decided that those He condemned as hypocrites — antiChrist— were in fact of Him? Are you trying to get us to believe now that God lied when He said His Word was everlasting — the same yesterday, today, and forever?

2. Argh! So, by insisting on the declaration of Jesus Christ Himself as far as His Kingdom is concerned, I mislead you? Those who love Jesus Christ by obeying His commandments and teachings are fools whereas people like Jerry Eze who publicly flout their stance against the teaching and commandments of Jesus Christ are the wise.

I love the way almost all of the time, religion never fails to prove it is of the antichrist, just as Jesus Christ declared it to be beginning with the religion that existed during His time, the religion Christianity was famously modeled after.

optm:
■ why don't you answer my questions and see where it leads?

Ok, I will bite!

optm:
■ Indeed the letter killeth and it is the Spirit that gives life . Let me ask you this; Is the church a secrete place or an open place ? Is it ok to offer prayers in churches?

First, there is absolutely nothing "secret" about your churches. Second, notice that the rules Jesus Christ gave were to individual members of His Kingdom... not to groups of people/cults or what you lot call churches.

optm:
■ There are fake ministers of God and there are real and i am confident that pastor Jerry Eze is one of the genuine ones.
■ If you care to, go find out about his ministry and the many miracles God is doing through him. If you can dispute the many miracles of the people that God has reached through his ministry even with the abounding evidences, bring it on here with your proofs.

A "true minister" of God would pray like the Pharisees do?

5 “When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites. They love to stand in the synagogues and on the street corners and pray loudly . They want people to see them. The truth is, that’s all the reward they will get.
6 But when you pray, you should go into your room and close the door. Then pray to your Father. He is there in that private place. He can see what is done in private, and he will reward you. - Matthew 6 vs 5 - 6

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2. No need for all of that! Jesus Christ made the equation for finding out those who belong to Him very simple. Jesus Christ said those who love Him and are loved by Him do one thing and one thing only; they obey His every teaching and commandment. And right here and now you and I know that Jerry Eze DOES NOT obey Jesus Christ's commandments and teaching starting with the one noted above.

You can lie to yourself all you want but one thing you can't do is change the Word of God or lie to God Himself.

optm:
I Just asked you a question. I haven't concluded

I didn't write or say that which is recorded in Matthew 6 vs 6.

5 “When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites. They love to stand in the synagogues and on the street corners and pray loudly. They want people to see them. The truth is, that’s all the reward they will get.
6 But when you pray, you should go into your room and close the door. Then pray to your Father. He is there in that private place. He can see what is done in private, and he will reward you. - Matthew 6 vs 5 - 6

For you to think there is a way around it means you do not agree with it. For you to even suggest the statement ought to be questioned means you never even agreed with it to begin with.

It is for this very reason — this need to second guess Him in His own Kingdom — that Jesus Christ called those who follow the religious leaders and their doctrines, blind people and antiChrist.

optm:
Answer my questions. I am taking the conversation somewhere and it's never outside Jesus Christ

You already took it outside of Jesus Christ the moment you insinuated that a separate set of rules apart from that stated by Jesus Christ Himself specially exists for your churches. I mean, the owner of the Kingdom said His disciples will pray in secret and hiding and not like the religious leaders of the religion of His time who pray in the open and to the hearing of others. But here you are suggesting that the same Jesus Christ backtracked and somehow caved into allowing the very same religious traditions that He openly disavowed among His disciples. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

optm:
■ If you are disputing this with those points you put up, you should probably have evidences that it is either of the 3 that happened in his wife's case. Then for this same pastor , there are quite many miracles like this out there through his declarations so i wouldn't term this a happenstance as over and over again , such declarations have heralded many of those type of occurrences

Evidence of "miracles" happen every single day even outside of your church settings and without the many proclamaitions and declarations of your mogs aka gods of men? Are you for real? I only did a quick google search of the key "Woman cured of cancer" and got at least 3 of those hits on the first page. You sit back and search through other pages and using other keywords and you will find loads more stories of the same kind... people cured of cancer, and most of them without ever connecting with any of your religious gods of men.

One major issue I tend to have with these so-called testimonies in your churches is that they mostly never make the news. You could search all through google for a whole day and never in fact hit any story in particular connected to these miracles broadcasted from your religious pulpits and fire-altars. I have always wondered why they never make the news.

optm:
■ Indeed the letter killeth and it is the Spirit that gives life . Let me ask you this; Is the church a secrete place or an open place ? Is it ok to offer prayers in churches?

Are you seriously attempting to INVOKE the rituals and traditions of your churches OVER and ABOVE Jesus Christ Himself here?

optm:
■ how you decided not to read that her healing coincided with the declaration of the pastor and the fact that
■ she was scheduled for surgery as the treatment plan by the doctors, this rules out the possibility of any drug responsible for cure and should question your stance of argument. This person didn't mention that she was on any special dieting for cancer and yet you want to deflect that it was possibly dieting. ok why did the dieting not work until the declaration by the pastor? Indeed the wife's story is unique.
■ Even in the story on the link you shared the doctor affirmed it was an unusual finding hence the child's belief that she was healed miraculously. these were the words “When the scans came back clear, I remember the doctors telling me they were not expecting not to be able to see it on the scans,” the girl said, according to evidence presented to the court.

Coincided , you say! But the many other healings of the others in those other posts did not need to COINCIDE with the declaration of any of your mogs for them to happen. Why does this then mere coincidence serve as proof that this one miracle of your wife's is linked to the man's declaration?

2. The other woman there in one of the posts claimed she took to eating vegetables and fruits and she was healed... no surgery and no drugs too. (Just so you know there is no special cancer diet; she simply wished to believe that her diet, like your pastor's declaration, was the key to her cure.)

3. Of course it is unusual but from the fact that there are so many of these kinds of stories out there — I searched less than 1 minute and found 3 different ones, it means that they are not unheard of.

optm:
■ you are the one twisting the bible. I really do not like to argue scriptures with you but keeping quiet would let you mislead others with your misinterpretation '“And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. '
Matthew 6:5
https://www.bible.com/bible/114/MAT.6.5. Here Jesus was addressing their intentions for praying openly

You just now did exactly what Jesus Christ warned that the Pharisees do, which is cherry-picking only those aspects of the Law which suits their particular ideas, abandoning the rest which they consider of least importance!

5 “When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites. They love to stand in the synagogues and on the street corners and pray loudly. They want people to see them. The truth is, that’s all the reward they will get.
6 But when you pray, you should go into your room and close the door. Then pray to your Father. He is there in that private place. He can see what is done in private, and he will reward you. - Matthew 6 vs 5 - 6

Was the Jesus Christ that made the statement in verse 6 a different entity entirely?

Lightman300:
■ I like his kind of yahoo. Where intractable situations are dissolved through the name of Jesus. Where addicts of pornography,alcohol, gambling, suicidal thoughts, what have you, are totally delivered. Very important, if you haven't submitted to the Lordship of Jesus, you're in for a shocker.
■ The wealthy man in Luke 16 learnt that lesson quite late. Like an average wealthy man here on earth, he carried his thinking pattern into eternity, and made a demand that eternal beings should be sent to earth to inform his siblings that hell exists. He received a shocker from no other than the father of faith (Abraham) that if they (siblings) won't heed the voice of those already on earth preaching Jesus, even if eternal beings are sent,there would be no differential. There is no room for stupid arguments as to the merits and demerits of heaven and earth. You don't play by your made up rules, but by the rules of Him who inhabits eternity. You make and sealed that choice while here on earth. Don't be deceived, whatever a man sows, he reaps. Selah!

African man! Always desperate to reduce God(and Jesus Christ) to his level never mind the fact that by doing so he invariably condemns God a liar and deceiver!

Jesus Christ warned His followers to pray in secret and hiding. He told them that only Pharisees pray in the open where people can see and hear them pray. He warned His followers against setting up monuments in His name. So, how can the same Jesus Christ have a part in what your Jerry Eze does? Did Jesus Christ, who never did any of what Jerry does and never asked His followers to do any of what Jerry does a liar and a deceiver?

2. Na so una go twist bible so stay una go twist out the last truth all to glorify men and their ridiculousness. The parable of the rich man in Luke 16 was instead told by Jesus Christ to teach that no one would be sent back from the dead to warn the living of Hell or Heaven.

Seagodess:
■ ... The day we would visit u..we would know the power you have... nonsense Nigerians.. you think this world is what you see everyday.. if you don't know God.. you can be killed anytime..

Stop deluding yourselves! These same "miracles" you lot attribute to your Jerry Eze and his fire altars happen every single day out there in the same world outside of your religious delusions. Do a quick google and you will find lots of them there unrelated to your god-delusions.

Mitsurugi:
■ Not for everyone bro. My wife prayed with this man. He mentioned her case and cancer of the womb went. LUTH had diagnosed her with a positive test. She was scheduled for surgery which was delayed thrice during her prayers. We went for a test. It was negative. LUTH conducted their own twice in the next 6 months. Negative. I saw my wife transform in those dreadful months. I witnessed it. Note I don't pray with Jerry Eze. But this one happen for my very eyes.

Your wife's story is not unique at all. These cases are not as rare as you would think and it certainly has nothing to do with Jerry Eze or his prayers and altars, or whatever. Just do a quick google of "woman cancer cure" and you find the following stories on the first page alone.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/feb/07/teen-cancer-cure-god-nsw-chemotherapy-order-court
https://www.deccanherald.com/science/wonder-drug-cures-100-cancer-of-uk-woman-2717586
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2830942/Woman-given-six-months-live-claims-CURED-cancer-juice-cleanses-swapping-junk-food-raw-vegan-diet.html
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20150306-the-mystery-of-vanishing-cancer
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/19/health/ovarian-cancer-immunotherapy.html
https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0302/074_cancer_miracles.html?sh=4dc07ab05ad8

Don't get me wrong now! I am happy your wife experienced a miracle but like the other three stories above, and all the rest of them scattered across the world. But, it was most certainly not because of the Jerry Eze proclamation coincidence, the same way it was not the juice-cleansing diet that cured the other women of cancer.

Maysdevices:
May God forgive you too for running your mouth on matters of His kingdom with no evidence

Which God? Which Kingdom?

slivertongue:
■ The fire altar is not what many are used to. God is using him in a simple and effective way.

Which God send una fire altar abeg? Na local Nigerian gods be those ones abeg!

Chucks13:
■ Give Odumeje your money, did he even ask you for money? So odumeje is not yahoo pastor ba? Very interesting indeed. Pastor Eze is never a yahoo pastor, if dem born you go and do such energy burning hardcore prayer session he is doing on daily basis for just 10 minutes and let's see. Everything in life comes negative to you, bro you need help oo...

Even Jesus Christ whose healing success rate was 100% — He healed everyone who came to Him for prayer without getting a dime from them— never did such energy-burning hardcore prayer. When Jesus Christ was asked by His disciples to teach them how to pray, He taught them a prayer that could be said in less than 30 seconds. 😁😁😁😁😁😁

Elections:
■ Na you know wetin day make you para. You're talking out of point.. Back to the topic.. I didn't say I'm poor to the extent I can't raise a kid. I didn't mention the number of kids I want to have. For me I can take care of at least a family of two.. If I have a perfect family house I would go straight and marry. Marrying and raising a family early has always been my greatest wish in life more than anything. I believe you have yours too.

As I said... Nigerians are among the most wicked parents in the world.

Elections:
Building project can wipe like 5million you made in 2years at once but if you use it to take care of your family ,it can sustain you for a long time while you still replace some part of it from your day to day business.

Millions of children in Nigeria alone are homeless and destitute, without anyone to care for them. They roam your streets every day with many entering and ending up in the hands of slave traders and pimps at the end. These children did not fall out of nowhere. They were born by people like you giving meaningless excuses for why it is OK to make babies when there is no money or resources available in hand to properly care for them. Yet even with all that, you think of yourself wiser than the 10s of millions before you who have more than proven it is a bad idea to raise kids in poverty. Again, I say, very wicked human beings!

Elections:
■ Nigerian parents are not the worst in the world. The condition and hardship in this country has shaped everyone to survival mode. They're trying their best.. You can't say the same for most wealthy parents ,they takes care of their children very well.

That was the same bloody excuse you lot used almost 60 years ago while raising kids in what what be considered conditions of abject poverty, and here you are offering up the same even now that you lot are more educated as a nation. Have you no shame at all? Na by force to have children when you know well you can't even afford to give them what they need to succeed? Na to continue to dey born like rats always carrying excuse for mouth una know to do well.