₦airaland Forum

DOM7:
Is condition of living much better in Saudi Arabia than Nigeria?

By far!

abbey621:
■.... This discussion was never about US being better than Nigeria for minimum wage workers or vice versa, it was about petrol cost and how minimum wage workers are affected the most in either countries due to expenses......Your unintelligent attempt to equate your charity lifestyle to that of the average American is way off point!

I had to yawn my way past your usual uninformed ridiculous claim. 🥱🥱🥱🥱

Anyways, your initial attempt to somehow equate life on minimum wage in Nigeria to life on minimum wage in the U.S. That, as I have already shown is not and can't be the case unless the Nigerian Government were to first
▶ Increase minimum wage to levels that compare to that obtained outside of Nigeria, for instance in the U.S. where you had attempted to compare it to
▶ Provided subsidy programs such as healthcare and even food subsidy programs that allow those on minimum wage to not only thrive but have a chance to raise themselves from that point up
▶ Upward mobility training programs many of which are geared towards ensuring that those at the bottom can get the skills needed to raise themselves through necessary training...

Until these are put in place, you can never and should never equate life on minimum wage in Nigeria to life on minimum wage in any developed country out there including the U.S.A. 🤔

Lekan239:
■ any1 can do it, but it's not expected... why would any reasonable person thinks getting a car on 1,200 dollar earnings per month is an ideal plan. Only kids does that.. Are you 1?

My first car in college was a car I bought for $500 which I bought at an auction. I drove it for approximately 3 years without problem and it served me well. I barely made $300 each month at that time but I saved up to buy that car since I needed one at the time. I had work and school, and there was no true bus system in the town at that time. 🤔

What part of that decision makes you think I had to have been a kid? 🤔

@ivandragon

abbey621:
■ When I said donor what the hell do you think I mean, abi pantry is not a food bank? Basically you're saying you live on welfare and you're comparing yourself to the average American....Stop insulting my intelligence!
■ Even when my wife lost her job for some months she couldn't qualify for welfare so I repeat you're not the average American.
■ Let me illustrate it properly for you:
1. Housing: You need two roomates
2. Food: You rely on welfare
3. Health insurance: You rely on welfare
■ You're not an average American, you're a charity case and your situation is excluded from the main conversation!

1. Now I am absolutely certain you have never been to the U.S.A. yourself. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

2. I have never applied for Welfare, now referred to as TANF. I have never had need of that since there are other freely available programs out there for even illegal immigrants to take advantage of that would more than suffice for anyone who reasonably wants to get by.

▶Deciding to take on roommates since you cannot afford to foot the rent bill all on your own does not equate to being on welfare. It is actually considered common sense out here and anywhere else in the world 😁

▶The foodbank is available to everyone as there is no qualification necessary. It is taken advantage of by pretty much anyone who finds himself needing to tighten the belts at any time, so sorry.. not Welfare. A good majority of Americans had to rely on the food bank during the COVID shutdowns. Even illegal immigrants take good advantage of it. 😁

▶The Affordable Care Act (ACA) made Health Insurance mandatory and expanded the Medicaid program to all those of lower income. So, I am not sure why you think that this subsidy should be considered Welfare when it is available to pretty much all those in the lower wage brackets out there. 😁

3. It's ok how you wish to consider me a charity case since I have been able to pretty much dash all ideas you thought you had at your disposal to use in arguing foolishly against the other commenters' statements. Sorry!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Life on minimum wage in America cannot even be compared in the slightest to life on what constitutes slave wages in Nigeria.

BeeBeeOoh:


https://dailypost.ng/2024/09/17/its-getting-out-of-control-gen-abdulsalami-abubakar-worries-over-economic-hardship/

Look whos 'talking!

Ttalk:
■ CBN has some level of autonomy. For example CBN is the only agency that it's budget is not subjected to NASS oversight and parliamentary scrutiny. However, a it's accounts can be audited from a pronouncement of the parliament as the case may arise. In this particular case, CBN grossly violates its own rule especially in area of lending money to individual without disclosing to the details of the transaction. Thats enough ground for NASS to initiate a probe into CBN dealings with Dangote's Company

According to the Central Bank of Nigeria Decree No. 24 of 1991 section 2 & section 37, the bank is a banker and financial advisor to the Federal Government and also a banker to other bankers.

Section 2. The principal objects of the Bank shall be to -
(a) issue legal tender currency in Nigeria;
(b) maintain external reserves to safeguard the international value
of the legal tender currency;
(c) promote monetary stability and sound financial systems in Nigeria; and
(d) act as a banker and financial adviser to the Federal Government.

Section 37: The Bank act as banker to other banks in Nigeria and outside Nigeria.http://www.commonlii.org/ng/legis/num_act/cbond199/

No entry indicates it can or should operate as a banker to individuals.

ZTsambad:
■ you are the one mentally unfit the west still exploiting Africa and gives you ur zombie scripts to carry about in the name of human right but always having evil intentions

What is wrong with the west "exploiting" Africa? You want the West to be Father Christmas to Africa abi wetin? Don't Africans go out "exploiting" the west too? Why do you people think as you do for Pete's sake?

oyatz:
✓ Very ignorant write-up.
The downstream sector has been deregulated and the President is no longer the determinant of petrol pump prices.

That is the story we were told but look, the claim is NNPCL is still the buyer --- noe supposedly with its team onsite at the refinery --- and the product is suggested to be sold at NNPCL's recently raised price.

etrouble:
✓ This one is mentally unstable

Where is the mental instability in the opinion expressed?

dre11:
Nigerians’ quest to purchase cheaper Premium Motor Spirit (PMS)may be realised after all as facts emerged that Dangote petrol may sell for N857 to N865 per litre.
Already, the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation Limited (NNPCL) will start lifting the product from Dangote Refinery today barring any unforeseen circumstances after NNPCLagreed to lift petrol product at N960/N980 per litre and sell to marketers at N840/N850 even though it is unclear if uniform product prices would apply at filling stations nationwide

How in the world is that cheaper is the recently-raised NNPCL price of fuel? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

sslcrypt:
✓ It might not necessarily be the case, most might be renegotiated terms on failures to pay previous tenures from past administration. Since bonds tenure runs longer and also we don't know the full scale of the terms and conditions associated with the buyout. A lot of foreign investors use multiple prong approach of utilizing bonds purchase. While purchasing bonds they are tying a payback to some form of repayment on backs of physical assets via subsidiaries in form of cooperations.
Anyway FG bond can't be defaulted on

Ok. Just wondering how the country, in the state it is today, could be said to have gotten that amount from bonds in just 10 days.

phemray:
✓ Hope you are aware that how the country foreign reserves is being managed is different from how a personal account is being managed.

Look at this one!

Drsnives:
✓ Hmmmm so tinubu is the best brain you guys had? Sorry

How in the world did any of what I wrote lead you to that inane conclusion?

JovialJune:
✓ You have a psychiatric problem, because who in their right senses wouldn't fear death? Why encourage Op to commit suicide?
✓ Since you obviously do not fear death, I give you one hour to go off yourself, then tell someone near you to take a picture of your body and post it here for us to see using your moniker.
✓ Be reasonable for once in your existence.

Thks is idiocy of the greatest magnitude. Why fear the inevitable? Why not accept it as part of what is life?

2. Why would I off myself when I have no need to do that? So, you think everyone is mumu like you who does things without carefully reasoning it's possible benefits first? Avoid me please!

3. There is absolutely nothing reasonable about any of what you said.

JovialJune:
✓ Oh so now there is no heaven and hell? The devil does not exist? Preacher of false doctrine that knows the Bible more than God Himself, I've always known you are mentally ill with all the nonsense you spill here everyday.

The God of Nigeria said when Nigerians die he has a Heaven or Hell prepared for them?

CorrectionFLuid:
Ok I get you now.
1. The project is a private investment by a private citizen.
2. The ogun government claimed it as its world bank partnership agric development project. Probably to use it to get more world bank funds.
3. A private investment can't generate money for the state government, like Ogun government claimed.
4. The assistance given to the farmers through seeds and fertilizers has been going on even before the current administration, it's not a special world bank assistance. And that most states do same, not just Ogun. These seeds and fertilizer are shared by the FG via the state governments.
5. The farmers took loans that will be repaid by them, and not the ogun state government or the world bank.

This is still jargons to me as it does not address the accusations raised by Mr. Bello Z.

You can't mansplain your way out of holding your Governor responsible should it turn out what Mr. Bello Z said is fact. So, please spare me this gibberish abeg!

tunjijones:
✓ Hey.... Not matter where you go... There is no place like home.
You can never ever feel at home in the UK. And hey, you can never be treated as equals in the UK.
And hey, no matter how long a Nigerian stays in the UK, he can never be a British.
Go to old people's home in the UK and see if you wld see any Nigerian there. If you like forget home in your journey to the UK, na for old age bodi go tell you.

That is the lie you were fed by your scammers-in-the-lords and co, I am afraid. You are meant to make your home anywhere you find yourself in this planet. Home is where one's heart is, not Nigeria.

PARADIZEPRIEST:
twitt ya grievance to seyi tinubu now and see what he can do.

What did you elect that one for? Una dey alright so?

sslcrypt:
✓ The foreign investors are buying the bonds in dollars. Thus the reason why the FG trying to paint it as foreign reserve increase. Obviously the payment back to investors will be in dollars, the topic is misleading.

Foreign investors bought Nigerian bonds worth $622.2 million in just 10 days?

muykem:
You people like to criticise everything. He been going to UK for medical as a private citizen.

Are you people everlastingly dumb or what?

He is the president of a country called Nigeria -- no longer a private citizen. So why should he use those hospitals in the UK?

Omalicious1:
✓ Chai....lolz

The main issue the Bello Z. -- aide to Kebbi State Governor -- had was that the Ogun State Governor laid claim to what was his project saying it was part of his world bank collaboration -- not sure of the details on that. According to the Ogun government, the rice farm generated Naira 1 billion in revenue for the state. How?

Anyways, any report that claimed the report was wrong would have to have Mr. Bello Z. In fact retracting that statement.

creativejagaban:
■ ...That there is a fantastic program supported and assisted by government or that it is a good news coming out of a state or that the earlier negative media report you so much believe was bursted...

You people are just full of sheets is all!

Go read the main complaint made by the Bello Z. man in the first report. Read it carefully, and then come back and tackle the real issue instead of trying desperately to deflect by claiming it is all about the government providing assistance or support — subsidy — to farmers, something that has been ongoing for many years now. Every year for as long as we can tell, the Ministry of Agriculture, for instance, distributes fertilizer and seeds to various governors for the benefit of farmers. Tractors and other farm machinery were made available from over a decade ago in many farming states as well. If Mr. Bello Z has retracted the claims formerly reported, post that video or message, rather than videos of farmers who may not even be related to the property in question.

Otherwise, avoid seeking my attention abeg!

Mynd44:
■ Seems you are getting a kick out of this. The same Bello Z who was quoted has now done a video interview to clarify what he said. Yet you want to argue and argue and argue. You went me to take a third party reporting over a video done by the sane person of interest. Is this playing? What type of play is this?

What in the world are you on about? I don't know of such a video. All I have seen are the videos posted by the OP in his attempt to claim the report made the other day was false hence the reason why I am directing my questions at him before you stepped in to make yourself the center of attention. Abeg, waka pass me if you can't respond to questions without thinking you have some magical access into my thinking!

Mynd44:
■ Yes. These are the farmers there. The same Bello Z is who the media reports misquoted

Misquoted as saying what exactly? The report said Mr. Bello Z is an aide to the Kebbi State Governor and the project is in fact his project. Is that a misquote?

Mynd44:
■ You mean the government who provided Fertilizer, tractors and other equipment? Do you know what "government assisted" means?

Government assisted or subsidized projects are not government-owned and certainly not for the government to claim the achievement. Go read up on what the Governor said in the former articles that prompted Mr Bello to step in to in fact clear the air on the matter. For instance, he mentioned that there were loans taken out. Certainly, it is not the government paying off those loans but the farmers.

Lanrelagboi:
■ You can see the name right? They just misrepresented the facts

See what name? The information you posted does not even begin to address the claim made by Bello Z though. Read what he said carefully to realize that those videos do no justice to the real matters here.

Lanrelagboi:
Speaking with newsmen, the Head of the Hausa community in Alubarika Rice Farm Cluster, Bello Zabarmawa, refuted claims of complete ownership and management of the Ogun 200-hectare rice farm.
Contrary to a report circulating on the internet, the Kebbi State businessman stated that the rice plantation is not completely his project and the state government, under the leadership of Governor Dapo Abiodun, has consistently provided support for them.
Zabarmawa, said over 200 farmers of different ethnic backgrounds had contributed and were cultivating the field.
He maintained that the state government had brought tractors, harvesters and paid 65% for fertilizers and chemicals.
Zabarmawa said, “I saw some social media posting online that I said the government did not help farmers that’s not true. When we start this we haven’t done anything, it was the government that brought tractors to help us, after that for chemicals and fertilizers the government paid 50% while the farmers were to pay the remaining 50% and when they couldn’t I borrowed them the sum of N30 million to pay .
“We have 200 members who did their registration and we have their names each of them covers 1 hectare and they are not just Hausa we have Igbo and Yoruba.

Do the farmers in those videos belong to this same Alubarika Rice Farm Cluster, for instance?

Lanrelagboi:
■ Days ago, People's Gazzette wrote a news report saying a farmer in the Ogun State rice Farm cluster said the Ogun state government lied and tried to pass off his rice as a world bank and Ogun state government assisted project.
That report has been denied by the farmers themselves who said they in fact got support from government and world bank.
The farmers who were full of praises for the support they received also mentioned that their aim is the assist Nigeria achieve their food independence goals and also provide cheap food for the populace with the expansion of the cluster from 200 to 400 hectares. They also denied unequivocaly the reports that the government didn't give then any assistance.
What I wonder is why media houses will just attempt to mislead the public. Why will they choose to not thoroughly investigate matters before publishing and giving the people news that isn't entirely trust.
I personally find it disturbing and utterly shocking that this kind of thing still happens in Nigeria.
Please watch the videos
This videos done on July 7th 2024, shows the offloading of fertilizer to be used by the farmers ....This video was done as late as July yet the said agency didn't feel the need to look at it before they came to their false conclusion and narrative.
The remaining videos are of the farmers confirm that the report was not true and they clarified the situation of matters

Are these farmers in the videos the very same farmers who farmed the 220 hectares belonging to Mr. Bello Zabarmawa— aide to Kebbi State Governor— or other farmers in the same Ogun State who equally farm rice?

Lanrelagboi:
Speaking with newsmen, the Head of the Hausa community in Alubarika Rice Farm Cluster, Bello Zabarmawa, refuted claims of complete ownership and management of the Ogun 200-hectare rice farm.
Contrary to a report circulating on the internet, the Kebbi State businessman stated that the rice plantation is not completely his project and the state government, under the leadership of Governor Dapo Abiodun, has consistently provided support for them.
Zabarmawa, said over 200 farmers of different ethnic backgrounds had contributed and were cultivating the field.
He maintained that the state government had brought tractors, harvesters and paid 65% for fertilizers and chemicals.
Zabarmawa said, “I saw some social media posting online that I said the government did not help farmers that’s not true. When we start this we haven’t done anything, it was the government that brought tractors to help us, after that for chemicals and fertilizers the government paid 50% while the farmers were to pay the remaining 50% and when they couldn’t I borrowed them the sum of N30 million to pay .
“We have 200 members who did their registration and we have their names each of them covers 1 hectare and they are not just Hausa we have Igbo and Yoruba.

carl90:
✓ Say hi to the devil when you get there .
Let him know he sure have some crazy followers still holding it down for him on earth

What devil? Who fed you these tales of a devil waiting for you when you croak? No be the same scammers-in-the-lords who are still scamming you all of the money wey dey una hand instead of opening their store houses to feed the 1000s and 10000s hungry Nigerians out there, many of them member sheeples for many years.

Anyways , if OP were to die, he would simply decay and become manure for plants to feed on.

PARADIZEPRIEST:
Don't commit suicide ,commit to tinubu loans for small businesses

Small businesses are closing down in their 10s and 100s across the country every week. And this is because of the many anti-business policies of the same Tinubu. The purchasing power of millions of Nigerians has been reduced to almost zero by all the many hard rocks thrown at them from all sides. Yet here you dey advise OP to get a loan and start a business even with all of that?

Biodun556:
Nairametrics - BREAKING: Nigeria’s FX reserves rise by $621.2 million in 10 days after domestic dollar bond sale
https://www.facebook.com/100064859073293/posts/942929257879035/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v[b][/b]

The Federal reserves was at $34.5 billion or thereabout in April of 2024. The government announced several times since then that it had risen by about $500-$600 million since then. So, how come 5 months later, it remains at $36.8 Billion? Clearly, the government has dipped into the reserves since after it took almost $1.2 Billion out to shore up the Naira.

Nigerians, make una shine una eyes oo! This government is of lies and propaganda!

fuckingAyaya:
Same man that banned Nigeria doctors from japaing to abroad

just imagine!

Why are Nigerians so comfortably numb abeg!