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TheSuperNerd:
"CaMaViNGa cAnnOT dEFenD tO sAvE hIS LiFe"

Lol... Meanwhile this is "Cannot defend" Camavinga from 2019/20 up until his showing at Qatar 2022 so far.

Wow... Komekn with another gaffe screamer.

You jumped into the water before you could learn how to swim. You are about to drown in your overinflated ego.

I watched the game you obviously did not that's my personal opinion.

Camavinga plays as a Midfielder, against weak Tunisia he was out of his depth and was easily found out ,he was a makeshift LB.

Statistical data in isolation says nothing beyond the indicative, without watching the match and seeing things in context it's really nonsense.

My opinion shared my many who know, not like you who doesn't.

codemaniacs:
I did not blanket millions of Nigerians born outside Nigeria ( not outside UK ) as haters of Nigeria...

I said "unlike you and other foreign born Nigerians that's always badmouthing and denigrating anything Nigeria"... this means a profile of Nigerians born outside Nigeria that bad mouth and denigrate the country and they are definitely not into millions of Nigerians.

you have comprehension issues..

this is not a politics thread..

the vast majority of Nigeria's born and or brought up outside Nigeria don't know anything about Nigeria other than what they hear on their news stations which is mostly denigrating and bad news about Africa and that's also one of the reasons the foreign born players won't openly declare to play for Nigeria..

you are the problem and you are the one that needs redemption and emancipation....

there is no ethnicity called Nigerian... so in reality there are no Nigerians and that means there's no Nigeria....

the place called Nigeria.. is a place where different ethnic nations legally take resources of richer ethnic nations due to Ironsi abolishing regionalism...

so the corruption, ineptitude, favouritism, mediocrity you see in Nigeria today started in 1966/1967 because Ironsi's ethnic nation ( Igbo nation ) accused other ethnic nations of corruption, ineptitude, favouritism, mediocrity which did not exist and was not their place to do so because they had and still have their own region and revenue to develop themselves and their region's infrastructure but they decided to kill the leaders of other ethnic nations and destroy the regionalism system that would have made the entire southern Nigeria stupendously wealthy...

People that accuse other people of corruption, ineptitude, favouritism, mediocrity only do so because they want the power and position of the person they are accusing...

In Nigeria, people put ethnicity first...

so I am Yoruba first and not Nigerian..

so I can't be a Nigerian problem because I don't see myself as a Nigerian and as long as I am not wishing d:eath and d:estruction on other ethnic nations then I am okay... I don't concern myself with what happens outside SW Nigeria and I don't accuse politicians outside the SW of corruption, ineptitude, favouritism, mediocrity because its not my place to do so and I don't expect people that are not Yoruba to accuse Yoruba politicians of corruption, ineptitude, favouritism, mediocrity...

You are ignorantly recalcitrant, you know nothing and assume something you know nothing about.

Consider the excerpts in bold you have exposed and CONFIRMED yourself, you are THE NIGERIAN PROBLEM.

Tribalistic bigot.

I am PATRIOTIC NIGERIAN FIRST , I am totally detribalised I speak �️ Igbo ,my own language Isoko/Uhrobo, limited Yoruba and of course Warri pidgin wella.

I know more about Nigeria than you think , i went to two Russel group universities with the sons and daughters and grand children of the Nigerian Corrupt political elite, Ex Presidents, General, Governors, Ministers ,etc.

I witnessed first hand the brazen disgusting ostentatious wanton reckless spending of Nigeria public resources. By their children, I met some of their parents but I have no FELLOWSHIP with thieves and looters.

I was in Nigeria for 7 months last yearvover the stringent lockdown in the UK.

YOU ASSUME TOO MUCH.

He who knows not but thinks that he is ,is what ❓

Let the gallery Judge you, quintessential Nigerian PROBLEM, l rest my case.

AndSunGorilla:
Collins is out injured for the whole season sir, obviously he can't get game time. Your proposition about Aina being better is a different discussion which I am not talking about right now.

Context was the AFCON and Aina was comprehensively better than Collins at that TIME.

Fast forward Collins Aina has been on a progression continuously but Collins is on a downard spiral from relegation to German 2nd tier and continuous, injury is part of your football equation.

jihday:
lol, Pinnick went overboard because of his personal relationship with him and his family plus that one too was saying nonsense to the media

Compare whatvhe said and what Akpoguma said repeatedly over 5/6 years until he was relegated from Bundisliga to Belgium league, mouth change and we had a double standard.

Blueelf:
If I wa French coach, remove hernandez and put a cannaavinga ...play your double pivot

E no hard na

Haba

Camavinga cannot defend to save his life , l expected France to have other options. Because it was obvious that Saka had him on toast or is Saka that good.

In my opinion Saka was England best player in that game. But was substituted, couldn't understand why .

AndSunGorilla:
Sir the context of the response is to address the notion that no one could understand what he was saying. So I say again that if younger inexperienced U17 could understand what Amuneke was saying how much more senior and experienced professional players.

In order to communicate you must relate.

The terms and structure of communication and relationships are DRAMATICALLY different between a youth team and senior first team adult team with experienced high quality professionals.

They are two different worlds �

codemaniacs:
This is the behavior and attitude I'm talking about.. there's denigration all over this comment .

To quote you verbatim "you have come again with your nonsense talks"

unlike you and other foreign born Nigerians that's always badmouthing and denigrating anything Nigeria... they do not badmouth and denigrate their country...

First of all your diction is fractious, rancourous , and is anchored ⚓ on ignorant negative bias. That is not denigration but matter of fact, you have blanketed millions of Nigerians born outside the UK as HATERS of Nigeria. Thats downright stupid.

Because the vast majority of Nigeria's born and or brought up outside Nigeria. Refuse to accept the status quo of corruption, ineptitude, favouritism, mediocrity you find that denigration

You are the Nigerian problem , you have low expectations and even lower standards of probity and because we reject that retrogressive approach we have DENIGRATED the nation.

No apologies you need redemption and emancipation.

AndSunGorilla:
Is there a chance the journalists are not being objective? How come the U17 boys he coached were able to understand him, how come Tanzania team was.able to understand him? Siasia would have been good but Baba is now an expensive painting artwork. So if we have to go local and give them time and support, who else can we turn to at this point.

You cannot compare U17 youth coaching to senior first team, please be realistic.

AndSunGorilla:
My thinking may be flawed but I feel a full local coach without any foreign exposure may be intimidated by the players. Because at least our retired players can point to their careers and a couple of them made some money too in their hey days, but a local coach who may never have earned N2m a month in his life may just feel intimidated. The players could even claim that the coach is unaware of modern tactics etc and never exposed to world class training methods.

Although you make this in bold as a an assumption in the negative.

I see it as a statement of fact, some of our players are getting coached by the best Managers in the world, with the best facilities and a comprehensive support network of multiple professionals.

For most of our local coaches that's like a a whole world away from where they are .

So it's more or less fact that our local coaches will not know as much as as some of the players they are trying to coach. Blind man leading those with eyes � comes to mind.

I know of two Nigerian international who were willing to pay and foot the bill for a defensive coach to help the SE. But were flatly rejected by the NFF , to them the NFF coaches were inept. This is not hearsay but first hand.

jihday:
don’t forget that the late Amodu was a full local coach and he earned the full respect of the players

I want say too much.

But you really don't know what you are talking about, l knew him when he would come to see SE players in the UK and your opinion is way off the mark.

Danielnino00:
The problem is that as a national team coach, when you start calling players because you feel they suit your style, people will talk, especially if the player doesn't play in a fancy league..
Like Eguavon calling up Nwakali and Ndah because they are players who can keep possession well and distribute good passes..We saw such qualities when they played the AFCON.. People said na egunje..
Meanwhile, Rohr was selecting some players over others because they suited his conservative style of play.. For instance, Shehu was preferred often times ahead of Aina..Collins retuned from an injury at the 2019 AFCON and immediately displaced Aina who was having a good tournament from the starting eleven... Surprisingly, we didn't hear accusations of egunje

You justify the unjustifiable and are blinded to the obvious by your favouritism and double standard.

Eguavon did not call up Nwakali he was foisted upon the team by the powers that be.

Shehu was not oustanding there were and still are far better players.

Collins selection over Aina was not based on football ⚽ performance and or ability. Aina had the best statistics over all our defenders in that AFCON although he did not get the highest amount of game time.

Aina was and is still way better than Collins irrespective of the fact that he not naturally left footed. Aina is currently in the January transfer window wanted by a plethora of EPL clubs.

Jamilu Collins is now in Cardiff but is struggling to get a game even get in the bench . Meanwhile Seyi Ojo who is haven't mentioned for over 4 seasons is a regular at Cardiff and not good enough for the SE.

Blueelf:
Thanks for this

Maybe he is expecting Wenger or Sir Alex Ferguson

Not even Joachim Loew or even Herve Renard would come here

Do you remember when Glen Hoddle was in consideration for the Eagle's job, a coach and Manager with world class pedigree.

This is a guy of unquestionable integrity without blemish and a very good management and player record.

He is not hungry he has substantial Wealth and is a born again Christian.

He accepted the position but declined when they asked him to share his salary with NFF officials, he quite rightly was abhorrent and refused in no uncertain terms.

Nigeria can attract the best Managers in the world but our reputation precedes us. And there are many here that will defend the NFF and say they are not corrupt.

COOL10:
My brother, Nigeria has the clout to attract proven winners. We're bloody fvcking Nigeria for crying out loud. Yes I agree that we've lost our claim as the Giants of Africa but we're no small nation.

What you'll say is that there's an incredible rot in our system, fueled by irredeemable corrupt individuals that only care for their pockets and won't let the 'proven winner' coach do his job.

The only reason someone like Harve Renard for example would reject the Super Eagles job is because of the obvious corruption within the NFF, coupled with their love for owing coaches their salaries but to say Nigeria doesn't have the clout to attract a 'proven winner' coach (perhaps Harve Renard) is false.

Agreed without question ❓

codemaniacs:
you have come again with your nonsense talks...

even though they were born outside Morocco they see themselves first as Moroccans not as their nation of birth and unlike you and other foreign born Nigerians that's always badmouthing and denigrating anything Nigeria... they do not badmouth and denigrate their country...

the major thing wrong with the SE is the GoalKeeper position... the other things wrong with the SE is player discipline and player selection..

the SE players don't drop deep to defend and even the strikers don't drop deep to the midfield and also drop to the defense...

Once Morocco is not in possession all their players drop deep to defend and that's something this current SE does not do and does not train itself to do...

You are the quintessential personification of the Nigerian problem.

I'm not sure if it's your education,or limited exposure to see things in blinded negative parochial view.

You are the ones that will support a view based on affiliation not substance, subjective over objective. You create a unit of measurement to appraise those whose views you favour in isolation.

Consider the bold to the educated illiterate and narrow minded, criticism is an attack not an opportunity to appraise accept and move forward.

The acceptance of FAILURE is the beginning of SUCCESS, the denial is the continuation of FAILURE.

You clearly lack understanding, exposure and take comfort in crass ignorance. Your diction betrays you .

Unfortunately perception is birthed from personal perspective not substance or factual evaluation. With regards to crass ignorance and prejudice you are incorrigible.

If I ask you to give me one instance of where I have denigrated my country and or presented misinformation and disinformation you will EVADE. But for the sake of this open discourse I challenge you now.

I doubt if you have travelled outside your limited socio political local village area. Maybe you you've been to Burkina Faso or Mali, that's even doubtful.


Your essentially tribalistic bigot with no sense of patriotism or what it actually means.

How many Nigerian origin national birthed outside Nigeria in the west do you actually know. Add to that footballers, probably none. But you have such a bad belle blanket opinion. Are you JEALOUS of them ❓thr rancourous bitter dislike is too much.

Ppogbae:
All of the ills you have mentioned are part and parcel in every Black African nation.

It'll take a huge miracle for a Sub Saharan team to achieve what Morrocco has. This is simply the bitter truth and its a pill that many are struggling to swallow.

I would disagree.

There is corruption in every nation on this planet in many forms.

However, back to Africa the depth of Corruption and abuse it is a question of degree, in Sub Saharan Africa. Look at Ghana, Rwanda, Zambia, there are exceptions but our own is fantastic.

The Africans of France 1 GBOSAH

What a strike, a flawed strategy with all eyes on Mbappe forgetting there are many other players.

I think Dembele will score

Now England will have to play EXCITING GAME game to come

Game is about to start after all the talk here comes the action.

I don't see England winning this

AndSunGorilla:
Are we sure Morocco didn't beg their FBs and roll the carpets for them?

There is a sense of identity � probity and zero tolerance for corruption.

These guys chose Morocco Because they felt included and not excluded.

Blueelf:
It doesn't matter what club you play for, the league you ply your trade in, there's just this monster you transform into when you don the national lteam colors of your country because of one thing; PASSION

Those Moroccans want to die if need be on that pitch. Look at Maguire playing god-mode football because of the passion he has for repping England

Can the same thing be said for our boys? They are more interested in the hailings of "Senior man, Senior Man" they get in every hotel they lodge in Nigeria than they are in playing

I'm not even surprised if thorough investigations reveal that some players have bought and secured a spot in the teams starting eleven or 23 because I don't understand why our players attitude stinks to high heavens

Na force them dey Force you to play for your country? There are many ajegunle boys that told me that if they were given an assignment to man mark Messi in a game for naija to secure national team spot,they don't mind dying and shedding their blood for it (I know this is a bit extreme but you get my point)

It's high time we invite players based on passion and form in the national team colors than our overgrown "Senior Men"

It will not be better from you any players that bought his way in the team. Both him and the bribe receiver will not know peace. The club they ply their trade in will sack them and they will become church rats for making a nuisance of our football. Amen!!

Yea, I said ir

I understand what you are saying but think there are very difficult questions without clear cut answers. For instance;

What's the unit of measurement for passion, commitment, loyalty belief and humility. These are Very subjective and perceptive based deductions open to abuse.

What creates identity � a sense of belonging and inclusion that creates cohesiveness loyalty and undying commitment.

In my limited experience all these multi dimensional factors created outside primarily of the group,team.

Leaders inspire and motivates, builds up and is not just honest but seen to be honest fair and of unquestionable integrity.

Just as at our political level there has been wide spread comprehensive failure of leadership, where nepotism, tribalism, religious discrimination and mediocrity thrive. With a very big dose of endemic institutionalised corruption. That characteristic is seen in every government public institution , why should the NFF be different.

Go to Morocco and it's close to being a European nation by infrastructure both physical and socio -ecomomic political . These things impact on everything they do including Thier football.

Until we deal with out multi faceted cancers ,we will struggle to replicate what Morocco had done.

Oh my goodness

SPEECHLESS

Morocco are the first African country in the history of the World cup to get to the semi finals.

The went the hard way beating the best teams in Europe Spain Belgium and now Portugal.

It's simply AMAZING.

The team COHESION,UNITY , Nobody's doing big man in the team they play like a FAMILY.

This is a victory for two continents Africa and the Arab world.

Simply AMAZING

COOL10:
Well, I'm not Southgate and that's exactly why I didn't forget him.

All over the news, the question being asked is 'who's going to stop Mbappe? Can Kyle Walker do it?' That's what people are talking about and I think it's going to turn around and bite them in the ass.

Walker got rinsed and out paced by Ismaila Sarr.

What do you think a much better Mbappe will do to him or even Dembele.

charlesemeka85:
This young Moroccan coach is good

He has a vision motivated by excellence not personal enrichment and Egunje.

Portugal are loosing their heads thru have lost composure and looking very desperate.

I never knew I would see am African team thatote technically astute, disciplined, structured and skillfully better than a European Portugal.

Absolutely Amazing.

Morocco have had fat more scoring chances than Portugal.

GBOSAJH
ITS A GOAL

COME ON MOROCCO

andrewbaba44:
The dembele I have watched at this World Cup doesn’t lack self belief o

He doesn't believe he will score I already talked about his lack of anticipation in the final third . He should be attacking the goal but stands off instead of looking to score he look to psss

AndSunGorilla:
It seems like Pablo Nedved has also been forgotten. How do you rate Roy Keane?

Blood and guts , effort hard work and determination NOTHING ELSE., just an enforcer.

If it was now he would be in league one at best the Championship.

AndSunGorilla:
If they cage Mbappe, Griezmann and Dembele are still there.

One man cannot cage Mbappe , so you will need a minimum of two players that leaves space for other players.

Dembele lacks belief otherwise he is very dangerous.

Philosopher1979:
Morocco is winning bthis match. Mark my words. History will be made today

Your words and predictions carry very little substance beyond the emotive.

This game is balanced on a knife edge nobody is totally dominating. Morocco are technically the best team in Africa the team COHESION and DISCIPLINE absolutely First Rate.

At this point MOROCCO are the ones on the front foot.I want MOROCCO to win for Africa. I believe that the game will open up in the second half.

You should know the Moroccan goalkeeper was voted the best in the Spanish league. So if it comes to Penalties Morocco may be the ones smiling.

Croatia are not presenting much in attack just holding on to the ball with the occasional break

Brazil are attacking but the goalkeeper for Croatia has been very Good. The whole strategy of Croatia is to contain and defend as well as frustrate.

I think eventually Brazil will score they have had several good attacks on goal, Croatia have offered nothing.

Danielnino00:
The only moniker on this thread that has ever been able to match Thegoodjoe when it come to argument is Forgiveness..
Their argument was about Taiye Taiwo, Babayaro and Marsille.. Something that lasted for like a week

That's your opinion

typicalgamer:
This is the bait i want you to bite

This individual athlete topic.

If amusan was a white girl the promo she’ll get from Nike or brand sponsor would make track and field achievement shine above anything the world has to offer.

Trust me the kind promo bolt got from puma only that alone put Jamaica on the map.

So don’t say because it’s an individual sport it’s way harder than a team sport mentality is different

No if she was American and not Nigerian.

Endorsement look at market influence a sports personality from England has a greater market influence than one from Nigeria.

So if you want to target the markets with greater purchasing power and therefore demand.

I will most certainly pick a global brand name like Pogba, Ronaldo, Rashford, etc than one in Nigeria and or Africa , it's simple. How many £150 Nike trainers will people buy in Nigeria compared to the UK.

Blueelf:
He should

He started there in belgium

He's good in the air and would make a better ball-playing defender than all our current defenders

It's a no-brainer for me

He is not a great CB he is not going to be better than Balogun and Ekong and or Bassey , possibly Omeruo but he will not be bringing anything of advantage to the position.