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Marjoribanks:
The English will expose the Senegalese! That team is a fraud!

No they will not .

I can see them getting beat if they underate Senegal.

Ppogbae:
If Ghana and Morocco can scale through, I will sleep well for the next 2 weeks. If 3 CAF countries qualify, it'll be our best outing!

What a tournament for Africa.

We thought Asia surpassed Africa but they're fumbling the bag right now

Agreed without question let's Celebrate Africa all this bad belle and sour grapes to another brother African country is unbecoming of any patriotic African.

Mujtahida:
So you will judge him by his lowest and not by his highest?

Henry was a flop at Juventus, Bergkamp was a flop in Milan. Would you judge them by that or by the heights they attained?

You are so prejudiced you loose all sense of reasoning.

My comments were in response to codemaniac , l quote him verbatim, " Victor Osimhen has always been excellent technically and has immense football intelligence "

This is something that affects the larger percentage of African groomed players and after doing great things at youth world cups cannot transfer that dominance to the professional game.

V.O. was no different when at Wolfsburg that is the context of my comments which are time related AT THAT TIME.

So your comments are irrelevant

ChrisKels:
You actually think Portugal can defeat Nigeria when there is all to play for or when everything is at stake, especial at the world cup?

Which team has ever scored past 2 un-replied goals against Nigeria at the world cup?

Denmark 4 - Nigeria 1

codemaniacs:
Victor Osimhen has always been excellent technically and has immense football intelligence that's one of the reasons he is where he is today... and he has worked with and learned from the footballers he has played with both at club level and national team..

That's why he did excellently well at Wolfsburg ❓

codemaniacs:
That doesn't show why they qualified ahead of the S.E...

You're like many others on this thread are under-estimating how strong African countries are and how strong the top 15 CAF teams are.. most of the teams that have faced African countries have struggled to get results and work really hard to get anything from the match....

African teams just have to work on their strikers and chance creation opportunities..

This world cup has shown me that African teams are strong and only poor coaching is holding them back...

So where is the poor coaching coming from ⚽❓

V.O. has improved immensely actually meteorically from the technically inept, limited football intelligence and physicality that he had as 16 year old youth player in Wolfsburg.

Where did his football ⚽schooling and learning come from please ❓

codemaniacs:
The national team formation is different from their club teams formation. Players have to get used to the positioning of their teammates in the national team...

The national team is where you learn a lot of things ..

I think you really lack knowledge, understanding and insight. That proposition is essentially nonsensical.

I want you to compare the level of coaching, support staff (sports science) not, defensive and offensive specialist coaching staff add that to the high quality of even world class managers that some of our players are exposed to for many seasons.

And now tell me what Salisu, Eguavon and co are going to teach them in two weeks compared to Thier clubs.

Remember you said, A LOT OF THINGS.

Blueelf:
Please who saw the trending Picture of that shameless he-goat called Amaju Pinnick sitting down with football greats

That man is the reason our football went down the drain like refuse trash

It shall never be well with all enemies of Nigeria

Amen

Amaju is Nigerian politician who found himself by hook and crook the NFF President.

He is no different or any better than any of our soaked in corruption self seeking in politicians.

Philosopher1979:
I disagree with you.
Football academies to the rescue.
Our football academies are producing players everyday.
So we won't lack quality players.
We just need a good coach and we will be alright.
If we lacked quality players then I will be scared. We just have to get over this coaching issue.
The only aspect of our football that needs time is our local league and efforts are been made in that direction

Which football academies are you talking about
please , and how many quality players have they produced ❓

Quality is a very relative term, what is a quality footballer in Nigeria and what is a quality football ⚽ player in Brazil will be totally different.

It's on this forum that people will be flogging a dead horse of a player after 8 years and be calling him exceptional talent because he came from an academy in Nigeria.

Pidginwhisper:
imagine a player of Akanji Caliber holding our defense together . Man was everywhere and was able to contained the Brazilian forwards. We no get players aje, na past glory dey carry us.

This is the bitter truth that most don't want to face .

We think we are way better than we actually are, when you accept your limited abilities then you find a way to utilize what you have to get the best results.

Instead we get delusional.

codemaniacs:
Because they don't train on how to keep possession and players holding the ball for long and the players aren't good ball handlers..

I disagree.

First of all the national team is not where you learn anything the time is very limited and too short.

You are selected because of what you already have from your club and league where you play day in day out all season long. This is where you spend 99% of your footballing life .

So if you haven't learned in your club you will not learn it in the short time you have in the national team.

A good cosch will look at individual player attributes, experiences, capacity and ability then fuse turn into a team with a clear cut strategic vision and plan.

Blueelf:
Germany to defeat Spain by 3:2

You can stake N50k on it

Did you see that shot , I am not so sure Spain look very good technically superior.

I think Germany need to stop trying to outpass Spain ,they will loose. They only way they can beat Spain is with pace.

But Muller is too slow if not Spain will be in trouble.

fabyom:
If your father has my type of job he won't give birth to a wretched pessimist like you!
You have been seeking my attention for so long now that you have it you can make a feast.
I won't honor you with one again.

Absolutely no need to descend to this level of abuse, NOT GOOD .

Football can be very unpredictable sometimes.

Nigerian origin player Musiala couldn't get one game for Chelsea after almost a decade of youth football.

He leaves very bravely goes to Bayern at 16 and within months he is in the first team at 17 very soon after he is on the national team and now his first world cup at age 19. He is going to play against Spain.

Who would l like to win , no preference, who will win I absolutely have no idea. But feel Germany are motivated and have a lot to prove, so just by emotion I think Germanu might win.

That's a roller coaster speedy progression.

Unfortunately he didn't opt to play for Nigeria.

COOL10:
You see that 'passion' you mentioned? Sometimes that's all it takes to win a football match.

Another thing is you should never ever count out Suarez and Cavani. I don't care how old they are. Cavani's movement alone is enough to make any world class defender look like an amateur. Those two can rip any defense apart. There's also a certain Darwin Nunez.

Ghana really have a lot on their plate.

Agreed without question

From a perfunctory glance it seems the vast Majority of their players were born and or brought up outside of Morocco.

For those who think that unless you are born in a country you can't play Good football and be commited to the national team.

That's a big slap in the face of that kind of prejudiced and retrogressive thinking.

Ppogbae:
Do Morrocans even see themselves as African?

Have you asked any of them to find out ?

What I do know is that they are Arab African and what being African to them may be different to what it is to Sub Saharan Africa.

Blueelf:
Omo see as I dey dance for house

Andrewbaba44, Morocco is the best AFCON team so far or what do you think

cc charlesemeka, thesupernerd

I will have to grudgingly accept that these are the real LIONS of Africa.

Oh my goodness when you play without FEAR and you have BELIEF.

MOROCCO are flogging the mighty Belgium 2-0

mostob:
Behold ... our flying eagles striker!!!

Forgive me bruv

You must be having a laugh U21 youth player.

Tessyy1701:
@bolded,
It's not Sir and it will never be.. A 2-3 lines once or twice in a day ain't too much. That's one of the beauty of this great thread ' Getting to know up coming talent of Nigeria origin'.

Well talent is just talent until that potential is realised.

Do you know how many youth players get released each season and have to find a club some times they don't even get a club.

I know a player who was the captain of a very top premier League club U18 he even played for England youth teams.

He got released at 21 went to Middlesbrough U21 , got released went to Non league he is now playing college football in the USA .

Jerome Sinclair youngest players to play for Liverpool he is now about 25 and after lots of clubs even went to league one ended up in Eredivise. Last I knew few month ago he had no club.

That's why unless a players is off the scale outstanding I will not talk about them. Particularly in youth football a lot can change for good or bad in a short time.

The dark side in frustration some have committed suicide.

Ppogbae:
They are descendants of the Arab slave trade, which happened long before the European slave trade. Some are descendants of Blacm Africans who made pilgrimage to Mecca back then but didn't return.

Thank you

AndSunGorilla:
New to most of us here, at least to me. I don't recall you bringing up his name here sir. So honestly, I don't think your retort was warranted really as an elder here.

Peace and One Love
Jah Bless

When you already have a prejudiced mind you see things as contention.

Do your know how many youth players of Nigerian origin that I know across Europe. There are not enough pages too mention them here .

Adidas and Nike have a dossier of the most outstanding players according to them in Europe. That dossier means there are boys already getting paid at 12/13 endorsements.

For instance there is an Italian born Edo boy in Juventus a forward player already near 6ft tall at U14. There are others in Germany but l really think it's premature to be talking talking about them at this stage and in all honesty there are just too many.

Many very erroneously here , think all I watch is English football. I have said it before I will go to mainland Europe 6/7 times a year sometimes more to watch games, etc.

I will talk about players I've seen ,watched in matches in training and talked to them and or their coaches and even agents. Again too many to talk about.

Ppogbae:
You are right. But many of these people got enslaved by the light skinned Arabs of today.

It's interested how History has been white washed.

There were 10 dynasties of Black European Pharoes in Egypt and indeed there are more Pyramids in Sudan than there are in Egypt .

TheSuperNerd:
New Player Alert: Coby Ebere, 17, Midfielder

17 y/o Coby Ebere scores for Everton's U18 vs Liverpool U18 in an U18 Premier league Merseyside Derby as he helped them to a 2-1 win.

He now has 4 goals in 6 games (all starts) for the Everton U18.

He's a midfielder also featured as a forward sometimes.

Eligible for Nigeria, England and Germany (country of Birth). Looks like another Jamal Musiala situation.

Maybe new to you

I am VERY CONFUSED where do these Saudi players originate from , they look like Black African a good number of them.

These guys are playing with ZERO FEAR and they are the Saudis terrorising Poland. How they have not scored I don't know.

If anybody thinks the victory of Saudi over Argentina was a fluke they should think again.

Poland have had two yellow cards in 18 minute's they are getting bullied in every department of the game.

Icon79:
Bia Nerdy, can you hear me now? How can Australia…. Australia of all countries, defeat an African representative in soccer! I mean, it would make sense if we’re talking about cricket or rugby or Aussie football but in soccer!!!

To me, Australia alongside Qatar and Costa Rica are the weakest teams in this World Cup. Either Senegal or Ghana, even Cameroon sef, would’ve eaten Australia for lunch!

What a disgrace! And the Tunisians kept bitching about time wasting but, truth is, even if they were given 100 hours they’ll still not be able to score!

O pari

There is a mentality of defeat before the battle, they start of so cautiously and without any sense of belief. For goodness sake it's Australia and Tunisia were hugely DISAPPOINTING.

It's a problem we start without a conviction of belief and winning mentality that's we all mist often come alive in the sevknyhslf and start so SLOW.

However, l have great hope for the Lions of Senegal they are the wounded Lion they have no choice but to roar, attack and devour or DIE.

Mujtahida:
Sure there's a third group. The moderates who acknowledge that the team is average and plays mediocre football but still have believe in the team. They do exaggerate nor hype the team neither do they outrightly condemn the team.

You are tilt more towards the negative extreme even though you'd say you are being objective and pragmatic.

To make that deduction, you would have to examine the unit of measurement.

One man's pessimism is another one's optimism.

When I take a player to club ,l don't say to him , because you are Nigerian they are going to give you a lower standard of assesment and be more sympathetic to you.

To compensate for the poor facilities, your lower technical ability and football understanding, etc

I'm realistic about the task ahead.

So if you notice there are some English born Nigerian players I haven't talked about as prospects for over 4 seasons. Because they are not performing up to expectations. But in reality are doing better than some players people go all orgasmic about here relentlessly.

I don't flog dead horses like Nwakali and keep talking about then when there is NOTHING to say.

It seems my idea of realism is your idea of extreme negativity then your entitled to your perception and opinion.

TheSuperNerd:
Club for Sale: Sunshine stars, NPFL

Cc BascoVanVeli, Komekn, Joebie, Philosopher1979, Chriskels

Make una come buy. Invest!!!!

Was this not the former Ondo state Housing Corporation ❓

codemaniacs:
Senegal was leading and its wiser to keep possession than lose possession and concede from a counter attack... its also called recycling.

it also has to do with the player, for example, if a player's dominant foot is his right foot and his playing on the left wing he can't cross the ball easily , he will have to spin the ball to cross it or turn backwards to move the ball to his right foot and cross with his right foot or completely stop ball then cross...

I disagree with you.

A youth player in a good quality premier League academy or similar by the age of 11/12 will have been taught to be ambidextrous with both feet. At 14 the top players will have that skill set instinctively. I am talking from experience not just hearsay.

Have you noticed that Ademola and Aina have both feet proficiency although a stronger right foot.

Arnold Trent has that ability, it's now become an expectation for the players at the top of their game.

Mujtahida:
Two extremes on this thread:

Those who believe SE is shit.
Those who see them or some of the players as world class or above average.

These extremes are fluid and the loudness or silence of their voices depends on the fortunes of the SE.

When SE is doing badly, the first group will go to town wearing babaringa and beating their chest. Ohh they sing and cheer with joy

When SE is doing well, the second group will blow their trumpet and crown the Eagles king.

Today is the season of the first group. They've been quite loud. Second group is biding their time.

Unfortunately we didn't even qualify to make the comparison.

The SE is not a top class team by any stretch of the imagination. The current crop are a far cry from the SE of the 1990's and very early millennium.

And we have mostly performed above expectations considering our personal in recent times. Failing to qualify was a very good reality check .

But unfortunately we have not accepted failure, we feel were cheated or just unlucky. That means we will continue to fail. The acceptance of FAILURE is the beginning of SUCCESS.

We have not addressed our failing and have no radical transformation strategy and plan to take us forward. The recent friendly that should have been used to test new players doing well in league and club. Instead we called Shehu, and other that should be really Forgotten.

As a result the rot continues.

I think you should add a third group the pragmatic , objective and brutally honest , greater expectations group.

fabyom:
If Ecuador keeps it at 1 nil then Senegal will have to defeat Ecuador to face England.
The Senegalese should have put Qatar away by at least 3 to 4 nil.

The Senegalese team lacks quality players from midfield to attack.
Senegal and Cameroon have the weakest African team at this tournament.

I have high hopes for Morrocco and Tunisia.

Ghana group is tough. The Ghanaians seem susceptible to counter and lack real quality on the bench. Korea and Uruguay will be a tough game for the Ghanaians.
The loss to Portugal will hurt the Ghanaians cos I don't see the Portuguese defeating any other team in that group.

If by comparison yes the African teams are not filled with world top level players. Senegal group is wide open , a note of caution a wounded Lion � is at its most dangerous.

Very few teams can match Senegal for physicality, athleticism and if they add determination and belief they will beat Ecuador. I think Senegal got stage fright against a lackluster Netherland, that they should have beaten.

I would then Expect Senegal to beat a clueless boring without any invention England. Watching Thier match against USA who should have won was like watching paint dry on a wall. They showed no guile, invention and belief they were just hapless, a fancy ship � with no rudder.