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charlesemeka85:
Yea I hope so. I believe Liverpool will suit samu's style of play but let's wait and see how thing unfold

In my opinion not a good move.

He is not proven and has not got enough consistency to claim position in Liverpool. It's too much of a risk.

He is better off staying in Villareal and developing never two seasons increase his capacity and quality as well as gain more consistency. Then the big money move will come.

I remember Bobby Adekanya came from Barcelona with great promise as a teenager. Three years layer he has left to Lazio never kicked a ball for Liverpool first team.

charlesemeka85:
Why call me names because I posted something here which I got online? This forum is becoming something else and needs thorough changes?

And who da f****k are you to call me names? Nothing wey person no see here oooooo! This insult is getting out of hands here and something urgent needs to be done about it

If someone is from gutter you don't need to step into the gutter to meet with them.

For Warri we say "Who deh follow craze man fight imself deh craze"

Remain civil and continue to be a gentleman.

gamaliel9:
Do not take it personal...just air your opinion and move on...both players should BE TESTED AT U21 OR 23 LEVEL...the super eagle is not a place to cap a player of their level and quality...Look at Bonaventure...from u23 now to SE....had it been that both are exceptional....They would have been in Three Lions... Even Eze s invitation was by England u21 oooo.... not Three Lions

Your proposition for selection simply lacks merit.

The question I would ask you is there any of our players that can make the England team ❓ The only possible player and it's not a definite is Ndidi.

So if England does not want our players that means they are below average and nit good enough for the SE. Chei see reasoning, l don't know what they gave you to drink or which beer parlour I deh drink


But l don't see anybody else.

As for quality our best Midfielder in the SE IMO at the last AFCON was Etebo. Etebo plays in the same league as Eze and Ovie. He is yet to achieve the same accolades and statistics they have achieved.

So if they are below average and need to be tested at U23 and U21 by the NFF. Should we them demote Etebo as an over age players. Because he is not actually doing better than these two players.

Considering that Ebere is already being courted by EPL clubs and Ovie is already a Liverpool player. Meanwhile my guy Etebo is just there.

Therefore this your proposition is nonsensical in the extreme it has no iota of substance. It's essentially Balderdash.

charlesemeka85:
Bobo have really improved both performance and physicality wise. He is young and can grow with the current set up. He is really doing well but the season is still young. Also Eze is balling hard too. Definetely we will get them with time

Look Ejaria is not feeble he is deceptively strong he is just not heavy. Very Mobil Athletic, a good turn of pace with skill and passing range.

He was outstanding in Rangers last season and then went to Reading as well. He has hit the ground running this season.

Although he is only 21 he has fairly decent good run of games in the Championship and Scottish premier league.

He is getting consistency he is 21 it's not just promise this is his third season of first team football. Although l would have liked him to have played more games by now, 50 league games is not that impressive.

Humility017:
why don't you step in to fill the void?

for a players below under 21 to be playing such way.... shows they carry lots of promise for the future...

you expect them to be super stars all of a sudden...then we will start fight England for them....?
I wonder how you guys think this thing's are easy...... the best way to get players of this kind is at a time like this...watch them enter the EPL and see the FA quickly rush to keep them for the 3Lions. ..
England is trying to learn from the French and German national team set up now....sometimes you need good players of Africa origin around your national team to cut it out....in major tournaments.

take it from me..if I was the NFF president..
Tammy would have since been a super eagles player....
trust me... pinnick didn't do it well and now he is busy opening his mouth talking on Tomori...forgetting that was same way his talk made us loose Tammy

I will say it CATEGORICALLY that Ovie had expressed his desire to play for Nigeria over two years ago. However, what has the NFF done so far ❓

gamaliel9:
Ovie Ejaria is feeble and below average....Eze is a bit better than him....both are under-par


We need a solid CREATIVE ATTACKING MIDFIELDER....And SE will booooom.....

Oh my goodness.

Feeble and below average please how did you come to that conclusion.

Who do we have currently that is better than him outside of Iwobi considering that Mikel Obi has essentially retired more or less.

kennysville:
Oga! Get a chair and find one corner and sit down. Pause and think over all your blind emotive prejudice what whats....and all the yeye grammer wey u dey like blow around. If you get what I said, fine.... if not? Fine too.

Of all people in this forum, na you I go dey follow drag matter? Tufia

It's often said if a man who lacks wisdom keeps quite he may be assumed to be wise.

You opened your mouth to spew forth irreverent nonsense. It seems you don't understand the meaning of prejudice.

If the subject that underpins your deduction is KC, then it means my comments regarding him are not objective based.

So l challenge you to show where l have been sentiment and emotive led and not substantive where KC is concerned that would imply l have been telling LIES as well.

So show one post to back up your nonsensical proposition and or show where l have said one lie about KC.

You must understand that your self birthed perceptions do not constitute facts. What you perceive is not my responsibility.

charlesemeka85:
Ovie my 2nd son

I probably have a better claim to that.

But l notice nobody is making a comedy about the fact l started talking about Ovie years ago.

As it stands he is now ahead of Tega Onomah who has not been impressive in a team l expected him to excel in Fulham.

Admittedly it's early days l still expected more.

andrew444:
He said you hate iheanacho and that is the fact, yes we all know nacho is not doing well but as for you, you no like the boy because no b one of those your English naija players

I really do not blame you.

Your senses of value is so superficial that you can't look at matters with any depth or substance.

My approach is objective not emotive sentiment based.

You then go on to mention Solanke who l knew from day one that he would never play for Nigeria. l have never recommended him but somehow you bring him into the equation. WHY ❓

I have said upteen times that l attend a lot of youth games and senior games in England across all leagues. I can also say l have scouted players for EPL clubs as well.

I have a far better knowledge of the administration and practice of football in the UK and Europe in general. As a consequence l leave talk Of Nigerian players for BascoVanVeli and Icon, they know and understand a lot more about that than me.

I have a whole engagement with players at all levels coaches recruiters and some managers. The consequences of that is l find it difficult to talk about what I don't know. Therfore l will talk about players in England some l have known since they were 15/16 even younger.

I wil rarely talk about Nigerian players coming from Nigeria with a sense of authority. However, l can appraise thier suitability for the game in the UK.

For instance l said many many moons ago that Sadiq Umar would not survive league one football. That's doesn't mean he is a bad player just not the kind of players that can thrive in those leagues. Well history proves me right on this occasion.

TheGoodJoe:
Iorfa was harshly treated by his club but you chose to still point he was a good player. If that was Nacho, you would have said it was because he was performing poorly.

This is due to your bias and hatred for Nacho.

I am completely lost by your train of thought, it seems you are attempting to make some sort of comparison of circumstances.

And then from that comparison deduce double standard and bigotry on my part with regards to Dominic Iorfa.

There is no similarity in this comparison and as such it fails.

Footballers are judged on performance on the field of play predominantly current and the past can be used as an indicative indices but very far from conclusive.

The issue is KC inability to perform, if you ask me, l would say that Leicester have been very patient albeit they have no choice. They are not a rich club and will have to painfully watch thier £25 million investment diminish in value day by day. After all the opportunities given for him to show his quality and resurrect thier huge investment.

Many moons ago l said that the true test of the Quality of KC is when he leaves the support and comfort of having world class players around him he had at City.

That time has come and now gone.


Judgment has been passed he does not even merit a call to the SE currently.

TheGoodJoe:
Leave that thing. Your own is pure hatred. You might pretend and deceive yourself about it, but it is true. You hate Iheanacho with a passion. Yet make excuses for other players like Iorfa that Mendes Cartel dropped him. If it was Iheanacho you would write Abysmal and no goals.

You are now muddying the waters and completely deviating from the topic in discussion. Which is simply the very poor performance of KC.

What does Iorfa have to do with the performance or rather failings of KC.

charlesemeka85:
I disagree with you on Uzoenyi. Keshi went for unknown players mainly from the local league whom he benefited from their moves to obscure leagues in Europe. This is known fact.

Uzoenyi who couldn't play for Rennes first team in Europe made the afcon and world cup team at the expense of Aluko who did very well in Scotland and the English 2nd tier then

Sone Aluko was in the EPL for Hull at that time and doing very well.

TheGoodJoe:
Crap.

The reason Iheanacho is not getting game time is simple. Vardy has the monopoly in the striking role. Not because Iheanacho did not perform.

Lie small small. Do not let your hatred for Iheanacho consume your fairness in analysis.

I don't have any personal relationship with KC what so ever, why on earth would l hate him ❓

The answer is very simple, he has not performed commensurate with his £25 million transfer fee. He has after 51 games ( multiple opportunities) scored 4 goals that's simply ABYSMAL there is no other definition.

But certainly HATRED is not one of them.

charlesemeka85:
Abdul ajagun-panathinaikos
Taiye taiwo- dynamo kiev
Haruna Lukman-dynamo kiev
Sone aluko- Glasgow rangers
John chibuike- rosenborg
Imoh ezekiel- standard liege
Obafemi Martins- levante

I will add to that list Victor Anichebe and Hope Akpan and with the small correction that Sone Aluko was in the EPL with Hull.

kennysville:
A player that doesnt get game time doesnt get to show what he can do and so it does have everything to do with the 50m buy back clause. If you ask me, Iheanacho's career is a business transaction. Plain and simple. Even though he gonna be smiling to the bank, he aint gonna get the chance to show what he can do. I am just hoping this contract ends soon enough.
Its time people advised our young players to steer clear big clubs so they dont end up in problems

All this protracted talk about "buy back clause" is simply irrelevant.

It the " buy back " only become relevant if the player performs or if you like "Blows" however, KC has blown so cold he is like ice. There is now a complete diminish in his value. Who do you think will buy him for £10 million now.


Finally, you don't GET game time you earn it by consistent performances. Unfortunately KC has failed to convince three different managers that should tell us something.

jihday:
I feel he thinks he's not better than what we have presently (Iwobi) which is true, but then he should have been invited even if na backup

That seems rational.

However, considering the players that have been invited such as both the unjustifiable Kelechi brothers that simply doesn't add up.

TheGoodJoe:
Story. Is Daniel James physical? Did he not flourish in the Championship? Continue arguing what you do not know. Nacho has an impeccable history. His Preseason showed the fire is still there. Given a run in a fluid offensive system, he will flourish. All Nacho needs is the right amount of games in the right system and he will not fail.

Talking like if all the teams in the Championship are mechanics.

Norwich and Sheffield are playing okay without being physical and these are teams that did well in the championship.

Daniel James is a forward player that plays on the wing. His main attribute Blistering pace. That's not an attribute that KC has.

I have often said that because of the very physical and intense nature of the Championship. That if you can play technical based skilful football there you will find it easier to thrive in the EPL.

Many of you said I waa talking rubbish
.

How many goals did Daniel score in his entire career in the championship and how many has he now scored in the EPL. I rest my case.

And if he had an outstanding pre season why is he still on the bench or not even making the bench.

tbaba1234:
For the African tournament, he will have to depend mostly on local players.

If the player is stuck in the third division of portugal, he is probably not that good.

I don't think people know how poor and limited quality is available in the 2nd and 3rd tiers of most European football leagues.



A few years ago l was at Cadiz in Spain with a Nigerian origin player. But l was shocked at the peanuts they were paying. It was actually better for him play 2nd Division.

Joebie:
The case with Ebere Eze is that if we lost him to England it would be because we were never serious about getting him.

Agreed without reservation.

Eze much to my displeasure was invited into the SE consideration set up about April 2017 along with Maja.

He should have been capped ages ago, how many Arsenal first team games had Iwobi played before being capped.

Not Rohr's fault it's the behind the scenes politics and jostling that always goes in. Particularly because English Nigerian boys dont understand the word settlement.

charlesemeka85:
Bros let's keep sentiment aside, coady is better than all the center halves we can boast of both capped and uncapped with tomori inclusive. Tomori is a greenhorn learning his trade and is yet to be tested in a full season of top flight football.

He only made Chelsea team this season because of the transfer ban if not he wouldn't have made Chelsea bench let alone seeing game time

Connor is in the Wolves team to keep the English quota and not expose the Mendes project for Portuguese sourced players.

Fikayo was the stand out CB in the Championship last season. He played almost every single game for Derby that's a full season of top level football.

IMO the Championship is the highest quality 2nd tier league in Europe. Clearly the most financially buoyant 2nd tier league in Europe. Where players from first tier league regularly come in. Considering that a Championship club can pay near £40 million for a striker, Stoke has over 7 players on £50k a week.

That gives them the ability to attract players from top leagues across Europe.

However, most European leagues have a huge disparities between the quality of players and finances between thier 2nd tier.

I knew Connor when he was a youth player at Liverpool. He is not technically better, he is certainly not faster and he is not stronger, Statistically speaking he is not better.

So how did you conclude Connor is better than Fikayo❓

Do you know that Dominic Iorfa was rated higher than Connor before Mendes took over the club and brought in Nuno and the contingent of Portuguese sourced players.

gamaliel9:
I am still wandering what went wrong? What happened to players that beat Libya u23 4-0 in Asaba?

Why change a winning team? Where is Chukwueze,Osimhen,Okereke,Bonaventure,Even Uzoho,Ozonwafor,Awazie,etc....?


Am i missing something?

How good is Libya's under 23 to use as a benchmark for quality.

andrew444:
Kelechi was proven at mancity unlike your waste man solanke who was not proven at Liverpool or even Bournemouth

Deal with it man

Now you are clutching at straws, what has Solanke got to do with anything. Did you recommended him for the SE because I did not.

Statistics can be used to dramatically misrepresent situations. Two seasons, 46 games for Man City and 12 goals is not disgraceful but it's not outstanding either.

You are better off using the example of Tega Abrahams as a comparison. Same age range and both are strikers. That's more credible.

Earthquake1:
Based on what?

Connor Coady has captained Wolves to a 7th place finish and a Europa league run

We are not talking about the club but the players

He is not the best Defender in Wolves.

Joebie:
Waste of money but not waste man lol

Man na waste of money = WASTEMAN

Bruv it's the same thing oh

Joebie:
That na youth na. Not top flight football still. He has only done well in Slovakia. At least u can say he was a lion there.

Agreed he seems to be doing well in Slovakia.

However, it's a lot of improvement but it's comes too late. Can l add without the haters coming for me that the guy is looking considerably older than.his 28 years

Danielnino00:
Oga I've been a Liverpool fan for almost two decades...I've witnessed the era of different managers at Anfield. .both good and bad. ...From Benitez to hodgson to Dalgish and Rodgers..
To say I see the national team as Liverpool is absurd... I simply don't like Rohr's style of management..and unlike u and some others, I refuse to pamper him because he is foreign... as far as the records are concerned, there's nothing he has achieved that our local coaches haven't...

WOW Nigerian scouser.

Do you come to the games, l do when I can mainly home games though.

As well as the youth games watched Liverpool U23 get smashed by Man city on Saturday 4-1 could easily have been more.

BascoVanVeli:
If you knew what it meant you wouldn't say he should tell his agent to ask for it. The club is the one writing the check so it why would you think his agent can simply do that?

So have you spoken directly to him? How do you know yourself?

Do you understand what l am talking about AT ALL.

To come to mutual contract terms is self-explanatory it means all of you would have sat down compromised and agreed to position that is acceptable to all parties

However, before you even start the conversation you must have accepted your going to loose some money well a big Churchtown your money.

Now if you believe that will be beneficial to your career progression, then you can go down that route. If you don't you will remain where you are until the contract expires.

In the case of KC that may see him playing for the U23 it's not that bad. You will still get PAID.

I remember Sakho wasbin that position with Klopp although his issue did not emanate from inability but dispute.

charlesemeka85:
You are the one been delusional by thinking England will have him in their senior set up all because he is a Chelsea player.

If not for the ban on Chelsea do you think tomori will smell their bench? Do you know how many top quality english CBs in the epl who re yet to get a chance in the English senior team?

Before tomori will be considered for a place in the team he has to be extraordinary performance wise. The 3 lions team is different from their u20 and u21 sides where young stars throups in and out.

With the quality England boast of in the CB position currently tomori stands no chance in the team. Is he better than wolves skipper coady who is yet to get a look in?

Tomori is not even a starter yet in Chelsea team, the likes of rudiger, Zouma and Christensen are all ahead of him in the pecking order.

He can decide to still play for england but I bet you he won't get up to 5 caps till he retires

In my honest unbiased opinion TOMORI FIKAYO is considerably better than Connor.

andrew444:
You are really good in bringing down a player, even benteke has been worst going to 2 seasons now

Nacho is a premier league proven player and will easily get a championship team, how can i mention names as if i am the club

Do you want me to list players that didnt do well in the epl and got a championship club and did well there?

Should i give you some few list?

You think say na by to come here come dey blow grammar

You wont speak bad of waste man solanke oooo

If dem tell you say player like temmu pukki who didnt live up to expectation at the scotish league while at celtic will tear the championship apart you go say na lie you go begin write newspaper here ,dude went to the danish league and redeem him self back and joined the championship now he is doing well in the epl, i am sure you will rate league one ahead of the Scottish league and danish league

I want you to very carefully consider what you have written. Now tell me what has KC proven ❓

If you make a statement then you should back it up. Which Championship club will take KC and then we can analyse and deduce.

The floor is open to you.

andrew444:
connor coady wolves captain for that mater ooo

None of them are better than Tyrone Mings.

andrew444:
Lol championship team will not take nacho

Lol you will never change

Keep on embarrassing your self

No long ting.

Which Championship club will take him they have names, mention them please.

Earthquake1:
Loans are detrimental to a player's development

Ask the multitude of Chelsea loanees, or ask Omeruo

That's TOTALLY UNTRUE.