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tbaba1234:
Maduka also played 90 minutes yesterday in Fortuna dusseldorf 4:2 win

Really dissapointed if you can not use a friendly to test players then where will you test them.

Maduka should have played.

Joebie:

When the super delusional speak they speak as if they are on the coaching crew of the SE.

No objectivity in looking at the players individual attributes but you make conclusive statement that Tega wil not start before Osimhen.

You can see they want to start a pointless argument that will end in caustic rhetoricand abuse who is better Tega or Osimhen.

Me l no enter that " One chance "

BARAJ92:
ON THE ISSUE OF FOREIGN-BORN NIGERIAN
Nigeria FA always wait for the player to boom before given a call up as the nhi ational team is for only those who are ready to deliver. The National team is not for try and error.

We have many Nigerian in various youth academy, just few of them fulfil their potentials even England does not just call up a player because the player has potential. The player must be seen to add value to the team or can add value to another national team, hence, the call-up either to improve their national team or stop the player from improving another national team.

Also, the foreign based players can't be blamed for choosing other national ahead of Nigeria. After reaching their potential, as they have better chance of being successful in those national team than Nigeria.

The Nigeria FA must also be very observant and persuasive when trying to lure those foreign born national to the national team. We need to be able to convince them that the future is bright for the national team.

Well spoken.

You hit the core of the problem.

We do not create long term relationships with players who are based here. From relationship persuasion becomes routine.

We shouldn't wait for the English to recognise our players before we do.

Finally, the nature of engagement that we practice emanates from Nigeria and it's centred on. You need me and l can change your life if you play for the SE. Therefore you should sign with my agent and come to agreements of monetary reward for helping you.

That approach totally fails here, these players do not need the SE to progress thier careers. And will not concede to those disgraceful demands.

I could give you multiple examples, l am sure your level headed not to doubt what I am saying.

I do find it very difficult to understand how Eze waa invited to the SE with multiple promises in 2017. And up to this point nothing has been done to invite him. I just don't know what they are waiting for.

Now if l was Eze l would think that they are not serious. It may also be that someone has asked for gratuity and Eze will not divulge that in the public domain because you simply never have the proof. You could therefore face defamation litigation and nobody in the NFF will admit to that anyway.

Humility017:
oga are you here to support the 3Lions or the super eagles?

it seems like this Anglo Nigerian kids... your first point of loyalty is England...Nigeria is like a back up option for you especially when you wanna brag and bully those with inferiority complex....

I am not sure what your point so l really not sure how to approach it.

Supporting the 3 Lions is not an option compared to the SE.

The core purpose of this discourse is what's best for the SE, from that position we have consider the best players for the SE.

I know far more about Nigerian origin players in the UK thier clubs, coaches, agents, and some players personally over the long term.

As a consequence l don't talk from media reports but first hand experience and or knowledge.

I wilk not talk about Warri Wolves with any degree of substance. I will talk less about European than English football. Just as I leave talk about the Nigerian league to BascoVanVeli, icon and TheGoodJoe.

I don't call them biased because they have an In depth underpinning knowledge if Nigerian / African football.

But you do,.

Humility017:
oga
what elyte said is the plain truth....
it seems you don't even know much of the English citizen you claim to be....

take it or leave it..... rarely with an Anglo Nigerian player will pick the super eagles over England if the prospect of playing for the 3Lions is glaring and very feasible

What black players say in the public domain and what they say one on one to me are two completely different things. And or to other black people are two different things.

Humility017:
learn Portuguese...
same as saying a Nigerian should learn English to be able to ride through England.

Portuguese is guinea Bissau official language

Portuguese passport is EU that gives you access to Europe. I remember a Nigerian striker and l will not mention his name who did just that.

elyte89:
So y do dey find it difficult to declare deir allegiance to us most especially when dey play for elite clubs?

It's not as simplistic as you make it.

If l say l have spoken with quite a few of our Nigerian origin players. Somebody will say l am posturing, how else am l suppose yo talk about the subject.

Looking at Tega Abrahams he is in a difficult dilemma, if he changes allegaiamce now he will be slated by the British for years to come.

He is already being slated by Nigerians either way he goes he gets HATE. As an England international hr makes a lot more money endorsements and advertising. That's the Financial front. As an youth England international the club gives you more preference loose that status and you loose your preference to the first team.

If he plays for England he will never be first choice.

If he comes to the SE he becomes immediately the new Yekini and it will probably draw a host if other Nigerian players here including Tomori.

My view is Amaju my guy " fall my hand " he is supposed to have been sharper than that. If you want to kidnap somebody you don't announce it in the public domain before you have captured him.

Now l think it's almost impossible too much at stake for Tega. He will giving up a lot to play for Nigeria.

Earthquake1:
Add to that Osimhen and Tammy are similar type of players so I don't see how the combination will work

They are not similar.

elyte89:
D first line sums everything up...from agbonlahor to those we av missed,they re not dummies,dey re aware of all dis playing time issues,but d fact dt dey will b called a 3lions player sitting on d bench or been called up once in a wyle in friendly games seems preferable 2 dem dan been an active player in eagles...it was only iwobi dt surprised me,maybe due to his uncle influence sha,but am also sure,it took a lot of conviction b4 he made his decision to play for us.

Check out most British-nigerian dey don't openly declare to play for us not until when all options of plying for england is exhausted and age is catching, b4 dey switch allegiance most especially those players actively playing in elite club... As for me only miracle will happen to Tammy and tomori to play for us and if we re not fast enuf,once eze moves to a decent club,he will change its mind immediately once d British press start praising his talent,thus increasing his chances of representing England is getting brighter.

That's not true you are making assumptions without any substance.

darkelf:
Yes, Tomori also wants to play for England. I'm sure about that and the fact that he is now getting quality game time with Chelsea makes him a target for the English FA. And I won't blame the lad if he chooses England over us. I too would tend towards Fried rice over garri and sugar if I had to make a choice when hungry

I can say Categorically as at a few months ago Tomori was waiting for Nigeria and the NFF to call. The same thing with Oviemuno and Seyi Ojo.

But NUTTIN happened.

We the NFF lack integrity we don't understand the word honouring your word we say one thing and do another. It's not entirely fault of Rohr but all these behind and around him.

junnyjake:
That Guinea Bissau was colonized by Portugal isn't enough to tie the lad to Portugal.

I don't know much about the kid's ancestral ties and how it relates to Portugal, so, I can't really tell.

I know quite a lot of guys from Guinea Bissau and yes they have literally a free ride to Portugal.

All you have to do is learn Portuguese and the rest is easy you be naija you should understand. Bureaucracy is still quite straightforward thier in respect of getting documentation.

darkelf:
Does Tomori see it that way?

All this young guys think about is the prestige of being called a 3 lions player even if he doesn't get to start.

That's the way it is. Even if he knows he has a better chance of commanding a starting shirt for Naija, he may feel that he can win more laurels representing England even as a bench warmer.

How did you arrive at that presumption from considering the bold❓

Joebie:
Competition always I like that. Anyone who is performing should be welcome to fight for a shirt. Someone like Samu will not be selfish if he knows the next moment someone else will take his starting spot. We need to promote competition always and excellence.

Agreed without question ❓

Joebie:
Tega is British. We have made several attempts already.. So forget the matter!

Why must we wait for Oyibo to recognise our players before we do.

By now Eze ( who I never rated initially) Tomori ( who l also dismissed initially) and Ovie, Ademola and Tega if Amaju had not opened his big Warri mouth.

Would all be SE players.

I hope we do not miss Eze he is on Fire.

Joebie:
komekn make I speak urhobo for you. Memerha!

Eshagware oh

Menyori gaga

Joebie:
both of you are funny. This is the funniest fight i've seen on this thread

Bros l no deh fight, l no deh vex, l deh laff.

No be we talk say dem take laff laff talk true.

My comments are not vexatious they are light hearted.

Today Ebere Eze was on fire.

Must we wait for him to become a nuclear bomb before we cap him.

I was very impressed by his ability to shoot at 25 yards plus instinctively with both feet.

Sportilitica:
I think the quote against Safarigirl was uncalled for. She probably was refering to the fantasy league she plays and going against here without understanding her post was not fair. It would not be out of place to accept you erred here and apologize. I think you both need to sheath your swords. This is a faceless forum.

First, of all if you can find one post on this forum where I have used profane language. l will apologise with monetary restitution.

There is no rancour on my part what so ever and no sword has been drawn that needs to be sheathed.

I simply don't expect anybody to use profanities in thier write ups, irrespective of the provocation. That's what l pointed out as unbecoming of anybody but more so of a lady.

And expressed sad dissapointment.

She reiterated that was the language of football and being in England l should know that.

I went a bit personal by explaining that behaviour is no longer acceptable and the norm and gave personsl examples to buttress my experiential view that has now been misconstrued as posturing and some sort of hype by a few.

andrew444:
I dont want to see etebo in the championship next season , simple

Yes Abraham is no where near the level of KC till KC began to flop, dont make it look like Abraham has always been better than KC

One thing i want from you is the truth but you wont speak as you are always bias, Abraham is better than KC right now, even a Belgium league striker is better than KC let alone an EPL , but Abraham has never been a better player than KC till let me say last season

What's your definition of truth ❓ Something that lines up with your opinion. ❓

So let's try and be as objective as possible considering matters from a circumstantial perspective.

So we have to go back in time for perspective sake.

Both Tega and KC played in the thier respective youth academies and EPL youth leagues. Can l ask you who was the top goal scorer at academy level❓ Tega or KC. ❓ ❓ That's a factual truth, to be factual Tega scored in 74 goals in 98 youth games. So at youth level Tega was ahead.

Tega first professional season in football seen him top the Championship as a teenager. He was in Bristol City in 2016/17

KC played two seasons for Manchester city, 26 games in the 2015/16 season scoring 8 goals. In the 2016/17 season he played 20 games scoring 4 times.

Statistics can be used to portray about anything particularly if not taken in context. Many have used time on the pitch not number of games played to deduce that he was the best finisher in Europe. That's misleading because if there was any substance to the proposition then now that he is spending more time on the pitch he should be scoring more goals. But 4 goals in two seasons and 51 games tells the story but not one of excellence. The proposition therefore fails completely IMO .

My view is that is somewhat misleading. Particularly when you consider he is coming in at the tale end of games when your opponents is inclined to be tired and weary. Add to that being surrounded by world class players to create multiple chances for you.

I reiterate what l said years ago that the true test of KC quality is when he goes to a club that doesn't have the same level of quality players supporting him.

I compared Tega Abrahams to KC then not on performance but INHERENT ATTRIBUTES and what competitive advantage those attributes give to you.

But all these consideration are based on the ability to be a No.9. A stand alone striker playing upfront.

This is where KC has his biggest problem, he has no clear identity but is put forward as a striker. He neither has the attributes to be a modern day.

Tega brings physicality hold up play excellent finishing high level skill and Aerial dominance with superiority in the 1 on 1 plays and a good turn of pace with proficiency with both feet.

Tega has dominated at Championship level had a minor blip on relegation fighting side Swansea. But that's more about the very poor ream.

We have more contention and confusion with KC. He isn't particularly good on 1 on 1 dominance and skill set though good is not exceptional. He has has no aerial dominance, no physicality, pace is good but he is too heavily left foot biased although that left foot is seemingly excellent. Is he Striker, a SS, AM. Man city let him go despite our protestations here that Gabriel, Raheem were not better than him.

The main difference between Tega apart from thier attributes is one big word OPPORTUNITY Tega was denied opportunity at Chelsea on the other hand KC was given OPPORTUNITY but failed to capitalise and progress. On the other hand Tega had to earn his OPPORTUNITY by performing at the Championship level.

So at what stage was KC better than him ❓ I don't look at KC in Isolation and create a unit of measurement to assess him alone. But matters must be looked upon in general comparison irrespective of his personal circumstances.

Today Tega scored a hat trick his value is now rocketing upwards.

kennysville:
Who the hell cares about who you know? You make it look like its supposed to lend credence to so much of all the idiotic statements you come in here to spew. Are we supposed to be grovelling because almigty Komekn is speakin? As is said the other day, find chair and find one corner and sit down ... stop clowning around. Its boring already.


Oh one last thing.... people dont go around gloating about who they were with or who they know. It shows a sense of insecurity and the need to impress. The last time i checked, this is not reality tv or Kim Kardashian show.

You call it gloating and trying to impress but this is very ordinary mundane day to day engagement for me. I only divulged this to highlight a point.

But because l know there are those with self esteem issues as well as inability to discern matter of fact plain speaking, without misconstrued deductions in the negative. l therefore qualified my write up with "there will be those who will think it to be LIES and or POSTURING"

You are exactly one of those people with low self esteem, you assumed the negative and not the positive.

Because you know no, no mean say everyone be like you.

The pertinent point l substantiated was changing organisational culture. But you completely MISSED THE POINT. Hence the need to reference my position from personal experience.

Prejudice and bias has befuddled your sense of judgment.

Quite sad really.

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COOL10:
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Norwich dey ball na. They tore the championship apart last season and have carried the same spirit into the EPL. Watch out for Pukki,he'll finish with nothing less than 15 goals this season.

My football proposition substantiated.

Two outstanding lions from the Championship are currently dominating the EPL. Yet many will day the Championship is too poor in quality for us to be selecting players for the SE.

Our most consistent and arguably top performing midfield players Etebo plays in the Championship. And he us not the most outstanding.

As it stands currently Ebere Eze and Ovie Ejaria are outperforming him. Yet they haven't been invited.

The best CB in the Championship last season IMO was Fikayo. It seems he has transfered that ability to the EPL.

I remember when Tega Abrahams was being slated some even said he is not as good as Sadiq Umar. Some even said he is no where on the level of KC such extreme delusional thinking. I know one person who said he is only a Championship striker that's his level, whatever that means.

Tega Abrahams has scored 7 goals in 5 games he is now the top goal scorer in the EPL.

All the detractors and those giving him dogs abuse have gone quite I WONDER WHY.

safarigirl:
Disappointed in me? When did you appoint mw and what am I using your appointment to do?

Is it not gutter language that is used in football? For someone who lives in UK, you seem to be rather uninformed about the sport you supposedly work in.

This is football, not Golf. Hold your appintment and use it to make yourself happy. I pray to never come across someone like you, I need happy people around me, that still have a sense of humor

You may assume that l am telling LIES and or posturing falsely.

But yesterday l was with the head of the Youth Academy of a very prominent EPL club. And we are good friends over quite a few years. I have never heard him use PROFANE LANGUAGE

Indeed he has instituted a culture of zero tolerance for profane language. The coaches do not use that kind of language anymore. There is a new organisational culture that pervades this club on account of him.

I have another good friend who was a EPL manager not once have l heard him use profanities.

So your assumption is true in some football circles but not in all.

My suggestion is stop getting SO HEATED and KOOL DOWN things are changing and many places have changed. So you should download Windows 10 because it seems you are still using DOS your stuck in the murky uncouth past.

Quite disappointing for one so young as you.

safarigirl:
what is infantile and foolish is having the veins in your neck popping over someone that couldn't give two shits about you. Your hate is showing and it is ugly.

It was even a joke, made because Tammy scored an own goal and got a yellow, ruining my FPL points, the same way people insult players that miss goals and ruin their tickets. I did nothing football fans don't do, INCLUDING YOU, but you, because of your emotive bias and prejudice, take my words seriously and srart foaming in the mouth and talking jargons. You now even became blind, and conveniently ignored my explanation, because it goes against the vile you had in mind.

If you don't understand something, ask questions, don't allow your mindless and idiotic hate for my person, make you make an utter fool of yourself, over something you find 'infantile and foolish'

A person that is too frustrated to take a joke, does not belong on Buhari's internet.

Very juvenile response, consider the bold and what you have written.

Now look at the mirror you have described yourself now have a cold non alcoholic drink and KOOL DOWN.

Have a good evening.

safarigirl:
Your own is to come and be speaking English, without learning the basis of a comment.

If you don't know, ask, or you can collect the insult on his behalf


M7even, thanks for commiserating with me. Man just ruined good 14 points with unnecessary things

Caustic gutter language is not within my rhetoric.

Irrespective of provocation there are some people I just don't engage with AT ALL. Because l will not descend to the gutter where they have come from.

I am sadly disappointed with you descending to that level, that's all.

Finally, it's a faceless forum but you NEVER KNOW when you may come across someone and virtual becomes REALITY.

OMANBALA1:
Nwokem, noo nwayor....people have the right to vent.

On faceless forum about somebody that you don't know and probably NEVER WILL know you.

Isn't that a bit infantile and foolish.

safarigirl:
Tammy Abraham is a fucken idiot

I find it incomprehensible thar someone would be doing emotive somersaults and hurling vitriolic caustic rhetoric against a person that doesn't know you and never probably will.

Apart from the fact your use of language is very unbecoming for a lady.

Add to that an aspiring lawyer.

Am l suprised no but saddened with DISSAPOINTMENT at the level you have stooped too.

charlesemeka85:
I believe the reason for him remaining at leicester is to qualify for an English passport which he is likely to get by next year. Heard such rumor but don't know how true it is

It's none of the above.

It's pretty simple, who will pay £15 million and on addition the £70k a week he gets for a striker who can't score.

His value must have gone down by at least 30%.

MetalJigsaw:
Wonder why Rohr is yet to give Eze a trial.

It really is baffling.

He scored again today what exactly are they waiting for.

chrisooblog:
Komekn your point about Wingers putting in good crosses consistently i think it may also be an issue of the modern game. compared to wingers in the 90s Chris Waddle, Steve Mcmaneman, Beckham(though he's more of the early 2000s), Overmars, Finidi, heck even Garba lawal guys who could cross like no man's business but today in the top 6 of the EPL you can barely find any effective crossers of the ball. dribblers aplenty but crossing? for some reason they all just love to dribble. some are better at it than others e.g hazard, salah while you have others like zaha, willian, Lingard etc the only winger i can say reminded of wingers of old are ribery at his peak and robben. it's like alot of our wingers graduated from the school of pius ikedia aimless dribbles

I want you to look at how Alexander Trent crosses the ball with pin point accuracy and then tell me that the art of crossing is a dying art form.

This is Liverpool that doesn't play with a point man.

However, what's been happening is that wingers play like strikers and are not always looking yo feed the ball but score.

So in effect the wing backs have become the modern day wingers of football.

That not withstanding this is a very basic requirement the ability to cross by a winger. Something we are really lacking. Unfortunately Iwobi plays for Nigeria predominantly in the AM otherwise on the wing his crosses are satisfactory.

charlesemeka85:
Musa's days in the super eagles are numbered. The guy was the weakest link at the afcon. His is fast but lacks football brains. If musa was a tricky and classy player the team would have scored tons of goals during the competition.

Him and Simon Moses need to be excused from the team. With the likes chukwueze, kalu, onyekuru, Bonaventure and the possible inclusion of Ademola lookman soon I think we are well covered in the flanks

I don't think so.

A lot of our wingers may not progress to higher levels of football because thier end product is very poor.

Dribbles without end product is just huffing and puffing. Our wingers struggle to put in a basic cross consistently. Then decision making in the last third is poor add to that selfishness.

There it seems is a lack of professionalism so we need better wingers. Musa is still relevant just like i think Victor Moses is till relevant because nobody that's come in is actually clearly better than them.

BascoVanVeli:
Your opinion is as good as a 10 naira bill in a million dollar discussion. Whoscored ranked Omeruo above every other Nigerian throughout the competition so where have you been?

It's matter of who you want to put as being more authoritative AFCON or whoscored.

The choice is yours either way it's flawed because consider how many games Aina played and his stats exceeded Omeruo who played if I'm right all the games in the AFCON.

andrew444:
I agree with tammy abraham

If tammy has impressed at swansea he should been bought since, but tammy is 21 and piazon is 25 already, i know brazillians to be ambitious, why didnt he force a move if i may ask?

Pretty simple he is ambitious and believes he can cut it at Chelsea.

He has scored 4 goals already this season.

Add to that he is probably on at least £60 k a week.