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TheGoodJoe:
I think the best for Nacho now is to maintain his hard work in training. Gain the most from the opportunity and push for a loan move to a free-flowing attacking side in the Championship. A side that plays good footie but lacks quality finishers. Let us see if the momentum changes before January. If not a loan to a side that will guarantee him playing time. That must be ironed out before he transfers.

There is no top level Championship club that will take a player who has scored 4 goals in two seasons in the EPL.

The Championship is very physical and KC doesn't have that within his repertoire of attributes.

Or which teams do you suggest will take him in the Championship.

Humility017:
even the French league would have been better for him...
but unfortunately all that matters to him is the pounds he earn weekly and the quest for a British passport....just to show how low he reason and think

I actually do not blame him.

In reality which club in the French league will pay him £70K a week. He will being optimistic lucky to £25K a week, considering his current form. He will be taking a MASSIVE PAY CUT.

BascoVanVeli:
He cannot terminate his own contract oga. That is why it is called MUTUAL because both parties have to agree.

Salary has nothing to do with anything because I am sure he will take a cut for the right move

It would be wisdom to have read my contribution properly before making a deduction.

I used the term CONTRACT MUTUAL TERMS what do you think that means❓

Unless you have spoken to KC directly that's presumption. Do you think anybody will pay him £70k a week with his current form.

Icon4s:
And this is where I think the NFF needs to come in. They really need to closely monitor and regulate the activities of these players' agents.

That's like giving giving armed robbers a FN SCAR 16 with all accessories optic sights with laser.

Do you know l know agents tjat have been cutting deals with NFF officials at the highest levels. They will then enforce players to sign with thier proffered NFF accredited agents.

BIG MISTAKE.

BascoVanVeli:
That still depends on the team and not Iheanacho

No team will pay big money for him right now.

So unless he drops his wages he is not going anywhere.

If he truly believes in his talent he should get his agents to terminate his contract mutual terms. Become a free agent and go to the Bundesliga.

He will not get Bayern but a decent team should come on for him and he may be able to resurrect his career.

KC is not a physical player and the Bundesliga will suit him.more in my opinion and give him a better platform to showcase the talents we know he has and adapt them to the Bundesliga.

timay:
True.


Because even in those big teams, the locals in their academies even find it difficult to break through, let alone the foreigners

Very true.

I could give a two hour lecture on the subject.

BascoVanVeli:
He can't move him self. You have to respect your contract as a professional. You can't just move at your own will.

You can move but not with the money.

If he says he wants to tear up the contract under mutual agreement they can pay him a % and say bye bye. But it will be much less than what he signed for.

In this regard Leicester will cut thier losses forger any transfer fee and pay him a % of his wages. For instance they could pay him £2/3 million and its terminated mutually.

tbaba1234:
Iheanacho no gree move.. another frustrating season ahead

He is in a catch 22 of sorts.

Who is going to pay the stupendous wages for a players who after three seasons is proven as a toothless Lion of a striker.

You can not hide from the facts no matter how you dress it up, 4 goals after 51 games now in.his third season in Leicester.

The only option is for him to drop his wages demands. But l bet he's on a long contract he will rather see it out because he will not get anywhere near that kind of money anymore.

It seems he is no longer making the bench.

When l said that all the talk by Brendan was just marketing so he can offload the player. I was called HATER. We were told " KC is back to form " now he cannot make the bench. What will they he us getting extra tutorials to make him mire lethal.

Icon4s:
Oga, nobody needs to get a screen shot to prove anything. Yes, a lot of people hip praises on Nigerian players here but that is normal. If you don't celebrate your own who will?

That is the same way the English Press and their fans hip praises on their own players.

Some of us have some times tried to tone down the praises but you go to extreme to talk down Nigerian players. Are you not the same person that repeatedly called Isaac Success a waste Pipe? Which screen shot do you need for that?

THANK YOU

Unrepentantly and unequivocally l called him a WASTEMAN quote me correctly. And what is he now a confirmed WASTEMAN or a recovering one the choice is yours.

First of all l will admit to having insider information about him indepth. I also know a lot more about his near £13 million transfer to Watford. But that's not particularly relevant.

Reports I was getting were about attitude in training, focus and discipline and they were Very poor. I said in a post ages ago. That l found it incomprehensible how someone can leave the multifaceted challenges of life in Nigeria go on a football journey get to England and become a complete indisciplined spoiled brat. Was too me most DISSAPOINTING.

Not much longer after l said this , (please check my posts.) He ended up fighting in a hotel with three prostitutes refusing to pay after getting drunk and unable to perform. WHAT A MONUMENTAL DISGRACE.


Watford are not a rich club after paying near £13 million for a forward player you expect a return on your investment. Well 40+ games now in fourth season in Watford he has scored 2 goals. What would you call that a commensurate return on capital . Or a failed investment and therefore what a WASTE of money. Add recalcitrant with simply very poor behaviour and gross indiscipline and you get a complete WASTEMAN.

If that's what you call negative prejudice bias against a player because he was born in Nigeria then we have different value systems.

But what you would like to do is paint over the bad behaviour and make excuses that' for the inexcusable that's nepotism and double standard. Sorry that's not me l call a spade a spade.

Joebie:
if u looking for a player to compare with K.Nwakali, I would say Rabiu Ibrahim's career

I will not agree completely.

First of all Rabui was the stand out youth player in Sporting, was classed as one of the best young players in the world playing regularly at Sporting youth, Nwakali did not have that tag.

Contract greed by his agents prevented him from playing in the first team. Yes they wanted to give him.a new contract with a huge sell out clause, but his career would have progressed.

This was the period of TPI, my view, his agents wanted to cash in as opposed to considering long term career progression. That's where all his problems started.

He then moved to PSV nothing happened from there to Celtic and from there to Kilmarnock. And from there to relative obscurity.

Kelechi didn't get the opportunity to play in Arsenal U23, he was not the stand out player in Arsenal and although we rated him as EXCEPTIONAL TALENT nobody else did in world football apart from the delusional.

He was called to the SE set up on what basis He failed in the Eredivisie and got demoted to the Eerste second tier of Dutch football and couldn't get any in ended up in Porto B and still couldn't make any impression.

When a second division club in Spain buys you and immediately sends you to the 3rd tier. It is saying something loud and clear.

Ages and ages ago l questioned his selection multiple times without any coherent answer beyond abuse and HATER. Then his older brother gotta call to the SE who is even more anonymous.

But too many are fanatically nepotistic in thier desire for certain players. The chief among them the is unrepentant TheSuperDelusional one.

Talent is not HIDDEN it's EXPRESSED and if after multiple opportunities over three years without it being expressed. It means you either didn't have any or you have LOST IT.

Finally youth football exploits are not always transferable to first team senior football. So pinning deductions of talent on youth football exploits can be very futile.

charlesemeka85:
Oga the way you re making a case for him being loaned to a 3rd tier team insinuates that it's based on sentiment and pampering.

Let's call a spade a spade, even Abdul ajagun that I'm not a fan of has better career progression compared to that of Nwakali who showed more promise in age grade football.

For a young unpolished talented player out from Africa to any team in Europe the norm is starting him with the B side of the team where his adaptation and development will be monitored closely and if the player makes it to the first team of the club in half or 1 season interval that signifies that he is good.


Nwakali so far have failed even when arsenal loaned him to to Holland where he was expected to blossom in a season or two judging by his enormous talent and performance at the U17 world cup but he disappointed when he was tried in the Dutch top flight.

To make matters worst he flopped at Porto B team in the Portuguese 2nd tier which says it all.

Players like Azeez and others never had the luxury he had to showcase his talent in Europe but got where they re today out of hardwork, endurance and determination.

Agreed without reservation

Earthquake1:
Wow in what league?

EFL league one.

Icon4s:
Komekn, I understand what you are driving at. Almost all of us here have in one time or the other been tagged as a hater of one player or the other. But often times you in particular go too hard on the criticism of Nigerian groomed players. And in most cases you are not being objective if you ask me.

Try and be more objective with your analysis and people will see more reasons with you.

Quote me get a screen shot of any of my posts and using that under pin your deduction.

We have one extreme here were majority take our Nigerian players and give them huge accolades and anyone that doesn't agree with this view is filled with HATE.

Humility017:

c'mon everyone knows you don't like naija home grown players....
you're probably here to promote some borough players and pass them down our throat...

you gets angry and try talk down German born players we try to get play for us....
comparing them to your borough boys that wanna play for the 3Lions squad...


wish you can help talk to those lad and bring them play for us...but if you can't please let us be.... we don't mind call up a Swedish born Nigeria player to come play for us... provided he is willing and ready to down the GWG jersey

First of all I DONT GET ANGRY on a faceless forum that l consider a means of personal entertainment. NUTTIN else. That would be foolish

I can be disappointed by some views but not angry.

Back to your nonsensical proposition in the bold . I ASKED YOU TO PROVE YOURSELF RIGHT by just using as a reference point for your proposition one screenshot of any of my posts. Not two just one that's all.But you have been SHAMELESSLY EVASIVE.

Your befuddled perception is not a conclusive fact to underpin your proposition upon.

You don't know how many home grown Nigerian players l talk too and even encourage. I just choose not to talk about it.

Finally. l talk far more about players who l either see in matches and or in training, l may talk to thier,Manager's, coaches and or agents as well as the players directly. Most of those players will be overwhelmingly in the UK. If that's what you call negative prejudice and HATRED towards anybody else then I am sorry for you.

andrew444:
I get this feelings say you no like naija players

But I can't judge you sha

This is what a large majority of you guys do here.

The moment someone does not join the fanatical euphoric hallelujah praise train for a particular players. He is automatically labelled a HATER or does not like anything Nigerian.

Being objective and realistic dies not mean HATE.

I have challenge Humility and the ThSuperdelusional to back up these nonsensical propositions with a reference to a just one post. But they all went EVASIVE yoi too.

So here you are doing the exact same thing again.

darkelf:
You guys should beware.

I wouldn't want Chuks following Iheanacho's current career trajectory.

He was pocketed today because he is a very predictable player and apparently hasn't learned anything from his Algeria match at AFCON. Please tone down on the hype. The guy is average at best for now. All this hype should instead be heaped on Ndidi; the only sunshine I see in the dark clouds that is the current SE squad.

If Chuks like, let him allow village people destroy his career like they are doing to KC now. He better settle down and buckle up.

I remain the ever realistic darkelf.

NB: Insults will be ignored. If you can't argue intelligently, just go ahead and waste your smelling saliva.

When you are new to the league you are an unknown quantity that makes you UNPREDICTABLE. You can initially use this to gain advantage in the short term.

Everyone now knows Chukwueze defenders will study his entire video footage of last season

He now has to up his game and add more to his game to compete.

tbaba1234:
The truth is this. There are elements within the NFF that want to give foreign born kids an opportunity but there are also people that do not even want to see them in the national team. They'd rather just select local lads.

Infact, there are people who want NPFL players in the super eagles. Rohr has to deal with all these pressures.

These sentiments do exist

The best thing is to provide a level playing field for all players in camp regardless of where they are based.

Agreed without reservation

Unfortunately prejudice exists everywhere tribal national, etc.

Then.you have the issue of preference at the end of the day large parts of football are subjective nothing is absolute.

Joebie:
don't put words into my mouth
I mentioned him among two players we should go for immediately.

na you bring outstanding into the matter. So my question to you is which RB is outstanding/exceptional that deserves a look in instead?

I agree l brought EXCEPTIONAL into the equation because you said we need him in the SE immediately.

In addition you put him alongside Fikayo Tomori that made me to assume he must be exceptional.

IMO we simply don't have any defenders that are truly exceptional apart from Fikayo, that can bring true quality to the SE right now.

andrew444:
No be you be the king of double standard

I am not like you.

If l make a inference it will be substantive, l don't just because l have said so ITS A FACT.

If l challenge you to give one instance you will be SHAMELESSLY EVASIVE.

Joebie:
The context is present not past.. So far this season he has been consistent in the highly rated Bundesliga.
Can you tell me any other player who has done better in that position?

With respect you have not enlightened me.

He stayed in one club in the Eredivisie for 5 years PEC Zwolle. He has not been outstanding in the league and neither has his team won the league or anywhere near it. He as a player is not recognised as one if the outstanding RB'S in the. Eredivisie. That's essentially all I know.

He has played three games in the Bundesliga.

So what makes him outstanding and the sand out player for the SE, because of three games in the Bundesliga. I would rather have the outstandingly consistent top performing RB in the Bundesliga 2 than an anonymous one in the top tier Bundesliga of German football.

So back to you WHY DO YOU THINK HE lS EXCEPTIONAL.

Earthquake1:
But was Iheanacho average when he was at City?

Double standard without shame presented as objective facts.

Our people sef.

Earthquake1:
You know Foden is an exceptional talent

What does that actually mean, put some measurement on the term, lets understand. I am not in any way saying he is not an exceptional talent. Just that you define the term please, for those who may lack the capacity to understand.

To put matters in context for so many years and continously Nwakali is described by many here to this day as EXCEPTIONAL TALENT.

Joebie:
Two players Nigeria should go for immediately -- TOMORI AND EHIZIBUE

Tomorrow can understand without an iota of doubt arguably the best Defender in the championship last season. UNDOUBTEDLY OUTSTANDING.

Now playing in Chelsea.

Tell me about EHIZIBUE what makes him better than any other player for that position. That we need to get him RIGHT NOW.

Earthquake1:
Ndidi starts for Leicester

No rest for the weary

Consistency personified

Danielnino00:
That post u quoted didn't make specific reference to white or black players... I was talking about the English u-21 team in general. .
Sometimes when u see a post that concerns English players, take ur time to.read through. no be every time u go dy blow grammar

Consider the parts of your post and the notion that you presented which l highlighted in bold . You made reference to youth football in the UK in general and England specifically.

What l pointed out was the general bigoted and corrupt dynamics of youth football in England. My comments therefore are in context and directly relevant.

I dont talk from supposition but from first hand experiential knowledge.

andrew444:
Lol

That club is better than stoke, this one no need long talk bros

You are talking entirely from sentiment and self birthed notions not any substantive appraisal.

It's not about long talk just Facts and objectivity, you present a notion but you back it up with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I want to be informed and educated I am not too proud to admit to that.

Danielnino00:
oh boy....I just had to look at the list very well again and couldn't help laughing... which one of them exactly will walk into our first eleven?
because they play for better clubs in England doesn't make them better than our players who play in smaller clubs. they were all just lucky to be born in a country with world class football infrastructure this paving the way for them to have a good understanding and development of the game...those ones don't have to sweat before they can get into decent teams in England. .

give them a few years, and their true quality will be revealed...

Assumption based on complete ignorance. You simply have no idea.

Football in the UK is intrinsically corrupt the best players dont always get picked. The gate keepers the multitude of scouts and recruitment heads are looking for the best deal, not the best player.

There is still a preference for white boys over black boys it's only when the black players are clearly outstanding do they get through.

andrew444:
One thing about you is that you celebrate mediocre

There is nothing to argue about

Even a mad man knows that Istanbul basaksehir is miles ahead of a certain stoke city, if you are talking about epl clubs like wolves and co i will even agree, not a mediocre stoke city

But am i surprised by you? No

Same person that will say league one is better than the Turkish league

You can see the reason i see you as a comedian?

Oya begin blow irrelevant grammar now

You are getting way too HEATED.

I asked a simple question ❓ why do you think substantively that Stoke City is much lower than İstanbul Başakşehir FC.

Assume that you have PhD and l just have gcse and require tutelage because there are gaps in my understanding and or education.

Don't assume every one is knowledgeable as you are.

Simple request educate me please.

It's not a HOSTILE ACRIMONIOUS discourse, be a gentleman please.

andrew444:
istanbul basaksehir Is a better club than stoke city

Please upgrade yourself have a substantive approach to discussions.

I neither agree or disagree with you.

So l should just believe that İstanbul Başakşehir FC is better because you have said so.

WHY, HOW, WHEN, tell me how you arrived at that conclusion.

andrew444:

You know the club Zuby play for and that club is better than stoke city

It's simple

Stoke city Na club ?

No, l do not know sorry educate me and stop putting in half posts and leaving people to make assumption about the rest.

Be comphrensive please.

Danielnino00:
Seriously eh .South Africa won more than half of their good medals so far in swimming alone ..thank God for athletics and weightlifting... we are likely to finish second sha. but we would have done better...
I expect more medals today sha...

There is genetic disposition to some sports, you should know.

Which S.Africans excel in swimming the black or the white ❓ So let's not be too quick to compare ourselves to them.

Ravon:
President Muhammadu Buhari Thursday in Yokohama, Japan said that the few Nigerians abroad indulging in criminal activities do not represent the values of the majority of the people of the country.

Meeting with leaders of the Nigerian Community living in Japan on the sidelines of the Seventh Tokyo International Conference on African Development (TICAD7), the President declared:

“Let me also say that there are few Nigerians in the Diaspora that are giving us a bad name by engaging in criminal activities. These Nigerians are a minority, they do not represent the values of our country, and I plead with them to change their ways.”

According to him, “We will not condone any crime whether at home or abroad, and we will also not allow these Nigerians to define us as a people with a reputation for criminality.”

Urging Nigerians in Japan to be good ambassadors of their fatherland, the Nigerian leader said, “I am personally very happy that there are millions of Nigerians all over the world, like you here, who are truly making us proud.”

Describing majority of the over 17 million Nigerians in Diaspora as “the face of Nigeria globally and our ambassadors for good,” the President noted that, “Many of our Diasporans, like your good selves here today, have excelled in varying fields of endeavour, both professionally and individually.

“You have also made significant and overwhelmingly positive contributions to your Nigerian and international host communities. You have continually been a positive bridge between Nigeria and the world. It is not an easy feat and we commend you, salute your courage and efforts.”

Noting that “Japan is at the cutting edge of technology and efficiency, two very important attributes that can play a role in Nigeria and improve our capacity for development,” President Buhari urged members of his audience to continue to contribute their quota by helping to develop their host country and Nigeria as well, adding: “I look forward to your inborn gift, ability, and capacity in taking up this challenge.”

Commending many of them who are already “positively impacting the Nigerian economy through financial home remittances, promoting international trade in Nigerian commodities, our music, culture, tourism, sports, and education, while also helping to establish industries in Nigeria,” the President urged them “to encourage legitimate Japanese entrepreneurs to come and invest in Nigeria.”

According to him, “We are continually working to create the necessary enabling environment for investors to thrive, through improvements in our Ease of Doing Business practices, providing security, diversification of the economy, infrastructure and fighting corruption.”

He further assured them that, “We have put in place the Economic Recovery and Growth Plan (ERPG) to put the country on a path of sustained recovery and growth.”

Explaining the rationale for his regular meetings with Nigerians abroad and the establishment of the Nigerians in Diaspora Commission, President Buhari said:

“As you are aware, I have regularly held town hall meetings with Nigerians in the Diaspora on all my foreign engagements be they in Europe, Asia, America and Africa.

“At these fora, I have always, appealed to our citizens to be our good ambassadors, observe the laws of your host countries, excel in whatever you do legitimately, and also remember us at home (Nigeria). I have established the Nigerians in Diaspora Commission specifically to engage with you, signifying a coordinated attempt by our administration to increase the involvement of our Diaspora in our national development.

“Collectively, your resources, skills, and talents will be a positive force for our country which can help accelerate our national growth and development.”

President Buhari’s meeting with Nigerians in Diaspora, coordinated by Mrs Abike Dabiri-Erewa, Chairman, Diaspora Commission, who described the President as “the most Diaspora-friendly leader we have had in Nigeria,” witnessed a parade of the brightest and best of our citizens, plying their trade in Japan. They included academics, industrialists, top businessmen, scientists, economists, and many others.

Professor Ejiogu Emenike, President, Nigerians in Diaspora Organisation Asia (NIDOASIA) and an energy expert, commended President Buhari for efficient leadership, and disclosed that his members have “comparative advantages in human capital development, which we are trying to bring back to Nigeria.”

He added: “Any problem that science and technology can solve, we are able to, and we can help Nigeria in areas of need.”

Engineer Ochade Osakwe, Chairman, Nigeria/Japan Chambers of Commerce and Industry, recounted businesses that have been attracted to Nigeria in recent times, promising to do more, as the security and investment climates back home improved further.

Mr Nnaji Fintan, President, Nigerian Union in Japan, asked for more exploits in the areas of education, quality infrastructure and security, which incidentally, are focal points of the current administration.

Image caption: PRESIDENT BUHARI MEETING NIGERIANS IN JAPAN 7; President Muhammadu Buhari (M). Others are Chairman Diaspora Commission, Hon Abike Dabire-Erewa, Son of Chief Onyeisi, Wife of the President of Nigerian-Japan, Mrs Onyeisi, her husband, Chief Economist Ogbonna Sam Onyeisi and Minister of Foreign Affairs during the meeting with Nigerians in Japan alongside the Tokoyo International Conference on Africa Development. PHOTO; SUNDAY AGHAEZE. AUG 29 2019. www.brandspurng.com

SOURCE: https://brandspurng.com/2019/08/30/nigerians-engaging-in-criminal-activities-abroad-do-not-represent-our-values-says-president-buhari/

Do the legislators in national assembly who are the highest paid in the world, REPRESENT OUR VALUES❓

Do the entire corrupt ridden executive class and PMB included represent the masses and thier expectations, aspirations and Hopes❓ ❓ .

Who is representing the overwhelmingly majority of SUFFERING Nigerians the self-seeking self centred and selfish inconsiderate elected politicians ❓ ❓ ❓