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Earthquake1:
Despite many clubs wanting Tammy Abraham, Chelsea kept loaning him

He's lucky for the transfer ban otherwise he would have been on loan at the Dutch league

I know at least 5 EPL clubs s that were lining up and begging to get him on loan.

So why would he end up in the low rated Eredivisie.

Please ❓

Prectega:
Balogun doesn't make the bench in his club yet he expects to start in the S.E .. Who does that

Nigeria

Earthquake1:
Jamilu is playing at the highest level of German league

He'll come good

Playing at the highest level doesn't mean you personally are at the highest level. That's misinterpretation of the facts.

He wasn't good before he arrived at the Bundesliga 1 and he will not become good because he now there.

In all honesty watching him play he will struggle in league one of England. He is simply not good enough all he has going for him is that he is naturally left footed.

BascoVanVeli:
From start to finish Omeruo was our best defender.

According to you.

But according to AFCON statistics it was Aina he was the only one nominated into the AFCON 11.

My opinion is that Omeruo is a very average defender he may indeed be our best CB but he still very average.

His time is limited once Tomori arrives well he position will be to watch Tomori.

Meliforme:
I do not need a player to come into limelight before i provide a highlight. The qualities listed inter alia are in the comparative with Ndidi, Etebo and Aribo on the scale. Meanwhile, he plays for Istanbul Basaksehir in the Turkish elite league on loan.

Have you watched him in training?
Have you watched him play live??
Have you spoken to his coaches
Have you watched him over a good period?
Have you considered his positioning in his team parent and loan.??
Have you done comparative analysis of league and club

Finally what is his parent club and why is he not playing thier is it Barcelona or Real or Juventus❓

Because if he was so good why would his parent club send him on loan.

Or because you have seen him it is enough to recommend him. Give us detail with substantive commentary about his unique selling points and attributes.

You use the word highlight but you have not PROVIDED ANY WHATSOEVER beyond he plays for Basaksehir.


Back to you please.

charlesemeka85:
When it comes to issues I refuse to be sentimental even if pple don't agree on my opinion.

I am an aribo fan which is well known here but it doesn't hinder me from accepting the fact that he needs time to get to use to the super eagles style of play and that of opposing teams from the African terrain which he has never faced and experienced before.

One question for you to ponder.

How long did Ebuehi and Aina need to get use to the rigours of African football.

Considering that Aina was our best defender at the just concluded AFCON.

Maybe you should change your view.

charlesemeka85:
I just pray we get the likes of Ehizibue, ejaria, Eze, lookman, any of tomori or uduokhai to fortify the team.

Here is my best 23 team squad moving forward(players yet to be cleared for us inclusive)

Goal keepers
Francis uzoho- Famagusta (cyprious)
Okechukwu ezenwa- heartland(nig)
Maduka Okoye- Fortuna 2(ger)

Defenders
Troost ekong- udinese(ita)
Ola aina- torino(ita)
Tomori- chelsea(eng)
Kenneth omeruo- leganes(spa)
Chidozie awaziem- leganes(spa)
Collins jamilu- paderborn(ger)
Kingsley Ehizibue- koln(ger)

Midfielders
Alex Iwobi- everton(eng)
Wilfred ndidi- leicester(eng)
Oghenekaro etebo- Stoke city(eng)
Joe aribo- Glasgow rangers(scot)
Ebere eze- queens Park rangers(epl)

Forwards
Victor oshimeh- lille(fra)
Samuel kalu- bordeux(fra)
Samuel Chukwueze- villarael(spa)
Ademola lookman- leipzig(ger)
David Okereke- club brugge(bel)
Henry onyekuru- monaco(fra)
Paul onuachu- racing genk(bel)

Can't disagree with much you have said just one thing remove Jamilu Collins he's not good enough.

charlesemeka85:
You re right. It will take aribo time to get use to the physical style of African football but I think playing in the lower leagues in England prepared him for that.

I think against African opposition Rohr will go for ndidi and etebo for now which is understandable till aribo gets accustomed to the rigors of African football.


Against Europeans or South Americans I will prefer aribo to start. Another player that will do well against teams from the above mentioned continents is ejaria.

I disagree completely with you.

Pounded Yam is Pounded Yam whether you eat it at Obalende or Peckham.

When Danny Shittu came to the SE what did he need to learn. Or l could mention Etuhu. Both of them physically domineering.

When l said that Sadiq Umar would struggle in league one l was given dogs abuse. But that's now proven. Was he Umar not playing Africa football.

In terms of strength it's not necessarily size but muscle intensity. That's why l keep saying Oviemuno is deceptively strong. He is not easily bullied off the ball.

In term of Physicallity l don't think anyone in the current SE will contend with Chuks Aneke.

The lower leagues in English football are very physical and rough. Aribo will hold his own against anybody in the upcoming AFCON. In my opinion Ndidi is not necessarily physically stronger than Aribo.

Danielnino00:
Aribo is good but I don't think he will displace Etebo any time soon.. Etebo is well suited for Africa football.. Pace,stamina,power.. He has it all...

I like Etebo l watched him from his Warri Wolves days and consider him the most consistent performer in recent times.

However, he doesn't have it all.

His offensive play has not been up to scratch and his limited passing range. How many goals had he scored in the championship so far❓

He still needs to add goals to his midfield play.

benji93:
This is not a good example bros- meanwhile please read the post i commented on, you mentioned three different things which belong to three different categories. The first requires power but the second and third, nada. It doesn't matter-even if you stand strong, i will always get the better of you in the air if i am taller than you, unless i am terrible at my job.

Let me give you three current examples.

Lukaku destroy opponents with both pace and power. His power play transfers to how he runs ( power running) that means if you try to barge him when he running you are the one most likely to.be thrown of the pitch. Lukaku doesn't have aerial dominance as much but good technical ability although touch isn't great but he always scores a nightmare to defenders.

Benteke is a beast in the air but you must play to his strengths, accurate crosses in the box and balls to feet in the box. I remember him receiving the ball with Yobo right on him but behind him, he successfully held Yobo off and scored against Norwich. Currently Crystal are not playing to his strengths same problem at Liverpool.

The master of all currently for me is "Bad boy" BALOTELLI actually he is a really nice guy and very generous too.

But he combines Athletic ability , power and strength and crazy technical ability with pin point accurate finishing. He does it all, Aerial dominance plus power running. If only he had the right attitude he would be competing with Ronaldo and Messi. He power runs, positionsl sense excellent. And his 1 on 1 even 1 on 2 is legendary.

TheGoodJoe:
Wilfred Bony the first touch master. Used to like this homie.

A joy to watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YKLc3XICg8

His biggest problem NO PACE.

He reminds me of our own Yakubu

BascoVanVeli:
Turkey is still better than Scotland. Zuby went from a division 2 side to a team competing in Europe how is that not improving? You don't have to put another player down to hype another

Not exactly.

Scotland as a league has a much lower rating than Turkey. But there are two teams that are far better than the rest. Celtic and Glasgow Rangers and have a higher rating or comparable to Galatasaray and Fenerbache.

Then the other issue is that the Scottish premier league mimicks the EPL. Making the transition to the EPL not so difficult.

I will remind you to consider where Van Dyke came from arguably the best Defender in the world. Barcelona once bought a striker from Celtic.

One of the best U 16 players in the world is at Celtic.

So it's not so straight forward.

benji93:
Honestly, what are you writing? Can't you differentiate between Power, vision and "craftiness" ? Which one be power play? This is neither a movie nor a series, bros.

The pun is on you.

You lack understanding that's why you just don't get it.

Humble yourself and get TheGoodJoe to give you a lecture on physicality and power play.

TheGoodJoe:
When it comes to power play, some are rely a lot on their strength and have a high chance of beating the opponent to the ball based on their size.

Others, read the ball earlier than the opponent, who might be stronger than them but win the fight.

Others, will go for quick fouls, which will go on detected and then win the balls.

Some combine a bit of these.

While Osimhen lost some, he used hard work and pace to cover up.

Agreed without question.

With regards to the bold Akinfenwa comes to mind, it is not very nice to see but it's Effective and wins games. I remember him completely cancelling out too Liverpool defenders when he played Liverpool in the FA cup.

I think Osimhen need to learn how to time his runs and use his pace better and think more about his positioning. Sometimes he's running around like a headless chicken to little effect. Getting into physical battles is not his type of game.

chrisooblog:
there's a difference Joseph just move to Scotland and has been improving while zubby has been in and out of Turkey for years

Aribo actually had multiple offers for the EPL but believed that progression would be easier under the tutelage of Gerrard. That assumption is now working.

It's quite funny when l mentioned these guys donkeys ago l got all the vitriolic abuse under the sun. That league one is too low for the SE bla bla bla. That l am biased against Nigerian born players and a hater bla bla bla biased and a HATER.

Look at the sudden massive U TURN l know how Charlesemeka was also subjected to the same harangue.

When l said that Aribo is currently on the watch list of Liverpool people thought it was delusional.

chrisooblog:
are you surprised the brutal truth is that none of our defenders are top level just average I'm slightly above average we can only continue to search for a top level one

I said this before the best possible Nigerian Central defender yet to be capped is Fikayo Tomori.

charlesemeka85:
Former Arsenal midfielder Kelechi Nwakali says he is still the heir apparent to John Obi Mikel and is a targeting a recall to the Nigeria national team ahead of the start of the 2021 Africa Cup of Nations qualifiers.

The Diamond Academy product is one of the players tipped to replace the retired Mikel in the Super Eagles but manager Gernot Rohr did not look his way when he announced his roster for the recent friendly against Ukraine.

Though Nwakali has not played competitively this season, he sparkled as the Dream Team VII qualified for the U23 Africa Cup of Nations following their 5-0 rout of Sudan in Asaba on Tuesday.

''I am still the heir apparent (to Mikel),'' Kelechi Nwakali told reporters post-match.

''I believe my own is to do the playing and whenever it is time for me to come I am always available.

''It is always an honour to represent Nigeria. Of course, I am still knocking on the door of the Super Eagles, that's why we keep playing every day.''

The new SD Huesca signing has captained the Golden Eaglets and Flying Eagles in the past and knows what it takes to prepare for major tournaments including the U23 AFCON which holds in Egypt in November.

''The only thing I have to say is the Federation should support the team, the coach I believe he knows what is at stake.

''The main thing first is to go there to pick up the ticket to the Olympics, even if we don't win the competition, picking up the ticket is the most important thing, so one step at a time,'' Nwakali added.

He concluded by praising his teammates and Nigeria U23 coaching staff led by Imama Amapakabo for the big win against Sudan.

''Personally I take every game to improve myself, I know that footballers we can have bad days but we try all our possible best to make every game count for us.

''We put up a good performance to turn the game from 1-0 to 5-1, I must commend the coach, he did a very good job during the training sessions and the team as a whole for putting up a good performance.''

Kelechi Nwakali was named in an official Nigeria squad for the first time in August 2018 ahead of an Africa Cup of Nations qualifier against Seychelles.

True talent doesn't hide.

There is a HUGE DISPARITY between youth football and senior first team football.

Nwakali has had three seasons in European football and has been comprehensively WOEFUL. This is where you see emotive sentiment in the extreme, yet people call him a prospect.

Talent alone will not get you ahead but diligence and hard work. These are things he seems to lack.

What level is the Sudanese U23 team if indeed they are U23 but that's not important. We have a U23 league in the UK. Would it be wrong to suggest that the Chelsea or Fulham U23 are most likely better than them.

Consider that Nwakali with all his extraordinary talent struggled at Porto B. He then plays against Sudan and and some think he has arrived.

Using the Sudanese match as a yardstick for quality is nonsensical in the extreme.

Meliforme:
Neither Ndidi, Etebo nor Aribo has the passing range, we have in Zuby. Comparatively, Zuby is a playmaker. Zuby brings a sort of dominance and stability. A midfield that has Zuby will hardly colapse. Zubys' infusion into the current crop will set a lot of difference.

Forgive my ignorance but l just haven't heard a whisper about this guy.

With all the accolades and attributes you have declared he has. Then no matter what league he is in he should be the stand out player for club and league.

Please do not make reference to youth glories they are TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.

Now can you give more detail club, league titles won, etc, etc

Please.

charlesemeka85:
Aribo is no dm and even if he is versatile to play there he is not as as good as ndidi as a DM.

Aribo is a ball carrier and a good one at that so the best position for him is the CM

That's what some people use to say about Ngolo Kante until he redefined the term DM.

I can now say the rest is HISTORY.

You need to stop being so rigid and parochial playing the DM role is not a straight jacket.

MetalJigsaw:
Bro that Aribo I saw yesterday should displace Etebo. the guy is so mobile, slick-footed and really good in attack... He has almost all the traits of an attacking midfielder.

My view is that he takes the role of DM to another level in one move turning defence into attack. He drives the team forward, l can see why Gerrard likes him so much. The add the fact ha has very good vision reading of the game and very good passing range. Finally, not sure which is best foot equally competent with both feet.

He contends with Ndidi IMO.

Hanibal:
Err.... Baba komekn, I haven't actually compared him to Costa all round, I only compared his aggression to Costa, he earned a yellow card for protesting fa.
When last did a super eagle earn yellow for protesting?.
On the next Yekini or Drogba... Osimhen is 20 years old, I didn't watch Drogba or Yekini at 20, Osimhen can mature to be better than these legends.
Unless of course you doubt Osimhen's age (which is a likely thing considering who your posts here)
Saying Osimhen is not Vardy (29), Costa (30), peak Drogba, and peak Yekini should be considered prejudiced emotive bias abi how you take dey talk am sef?

You used the comparison of Costa not me now your trying to backtrack.

Aggression on the field and aggressive bad behaviour are two different things. Encouraging a player to have arguments and contend aggressively with referee's is not wisdom but the opposite. Very foolish you just get sent off and let your team down. Very unprofessional, Osimhen should get a quite reprimand from Rohr for that.

Costa with all his abilities had a Very bad disciplinary reputation. I am sure you don't want that fir Osimhen so early in his career. You are shooting yourself in.the foot.

My write up is constructive criticism not comparison. We use older experienced players and the example they have set to learn from.

You must know yourself as a player. Osimhen is not a physical player. Why become something you are not you are just setting yourself up to fail.

But you have mischievously misconstrued my comments with your pre conceived notions.

Emotive sentiment is the opposite of objectivity. You have indicted yourself because your comments are far from objective.

forgiveness:
From the first half, Collins was obviously the weak link in the team. Offered nothing to the attack and was caught out of position several times.

The Ukrainian coach noticed that and stylishly attacked from his flank though pressed from the middle but unfortunately the slow poison coach didn't understand and react on time. Instead, brought in Esiti for Iwobi who offers nothing going forward. Even at that, they kept to their game plan and went ahead to score through that wing.

What Rohr ought to had done was to replace Collins and then brought in a defensive mildfielder to replace Aribo. That could had stabilized the team and distabilized the Ukrainian plan.

After that, he should had introduced Simon, Maja and Bonaventure to aid the attack that lost so many scoring chances.

However, this should had been a testing ground to see another AMF in Iwobi's position but the I sabi coach refused to give some players the chance to prove themselves.

If Rohr could call Bonaventure from the Belgium league, what stops him from giving Ajagun who is also from the Belgium league and the only AMF in a top league a chance to prove himself? Double standard.

We need an AMF urgently because Iwobi seems to be wasteful in front of goal.

Osimhen should have scored instead of giving the ball to Iwobi. He lacks confidence and the instinct of a target man.

Chuks was just too selfish, he needs to learn team work.

Ramon Azeez should be called ahead of any player for the CM/DMF position. That's common sense.

Agreed

Joebie:
yes, like-for-like subs. Most of them should have played. The first half gave us a snapshot of what our starting 11 can do. The players needed to return to their clubs without being overworked. We are still in the process of testing players. Of what good is it that most in the bench didn't play?
It's not like I'm expecting Rohr to improve tactically over 90 mins. He is not going to learn any new tricks at his age. He needs a tactically sound coach to assist him.

I really wanted to see Maduka, Maja and Dennis did not get enough minutes to see what he can do and his qualities.

tbaba1234:
Nah, Iwobi was imperious in that AM role. It is a waste, sticking him on the left. Kalu was very good on the left while he was on.

I think Etebo holds on to the ball more than Aribo. Who will play AM in your midfield 3? I think Ndidi is critical to protect the defense.

Kalu did well but what is it with our wingers and end product and wrong decision making.

Hanibal:
What I enjoyed most in last night's game was Osimhen's aggression it was Diego Costa - like, and I'm loving it, the boy should keep it up and if he can back it up with consistent goal scoring, in few year's time he will become a nightmare for any central defender.
The aggression of the team generally to bad referee calls was also top notch, bye bye to the days when bad officials will be making scandalous calls all match and no one will raise a voice.

I imagine if it was Osimhen that scored that Musa goal ruled out for offside against south Africa last year... The referee for hear am!!

I don't think you have watched the beast Costa.

Costa bullys defenders almost into submission but he has mesmerising skill married with POWER garnished with clinical finishing and topped off with TERRIFYING aggression.

Osimhen has pace lots of running and he did out pace the defenders all the time. But bully the defenders No, hold up play was limited he lost the ball several times, he just doesn't have the physicality to impose himself on defenders. It's simply not his type of game.

He should watch Vardy and learn from him and how he uses his pace effectively he also is not a physical player but with the right timed runs is devastating.

It may be the SE may have to adapt thier game to suit him balls on the ground behind the defence for him to run on too . Again like Vardy he is not filled with trickery like say Aubmeyang. Both these players are not physical but use thier unique attributes to create dominance.

Overall he had a good night but outstanding no.

Is he the answer in the absence of Ighalo or the now supposed retired Ighalo, YES for now. But is he Drogba or Costa not yet. So the search continues for the next Yekini and or Drogba. Could he become like Vardy a think a big yes.

Prectega:
Osihmen hold up play was really good yesterday

It was satisfactory for the type of player he is he isn't physical.

tbaba1234:
Can we cap Ebere Eze now? That is the only player that i see that can replace iwobi in the AM position. Etebo is not an AM. He is better as a CM or DM.

Agreed without reservation.

It should now be apparent that it's better to be the top outstanding player in lower club and league. Than an anonymous mouse in top club and league.

Aribo is essentially a league one player but if he was invited to the SE last season there would have been outcry here that he's not good enough.

tbaba1234:
I think Rohr is building a very good side on the evidence of the first hour of the match.

The likes of Esiti have probably played their last game. At least we can see why Rohr has ignored him for so long.

Uzoho is the number 1.

Aribo is a great find. He does the simple things very well.

Iwobi, MOTM for me,

Samu, too selfish

Osimhen, heir to the throne

Etebo, one of the better players today but played better when he sat deeper

Kalu,unplayable

Very good performance..

Uzoho did well today, is Maduka's better we simply do not know. He Maduka needs to be tried and tested.

Aribo MOTM for me he drives the whole team forward all the way from a defence based position.

Aina had a good game Barr some lapses in defence, but he added to the team with contribution to the attack creating added cohesion in the midfield.

Jamilu does one thing and that's defend lacks confidence and composure and rarely contributes to the attack and or adds team cohesion.

Iwobi brought unusual aggression with his trademark ball possession he was outstanding in the AM role.

Samu is good at what he does but needs more maturity to read the game and play for the team.

Osimhen is not the answer his hold up play and ability to bully defenders and impose himself on the game not on the level of Ighalo. He had a decent game not outstanding.

Etebo is becoming the most consistent and reliable SE player we have. What prevents him from moving to the next level is offensive play and assists with goals.

Kalu and Moses are like twins lots of huffing and puffing but very little to show for it. End product is very suspect. But an ok game.

Our Defence was OK Ekong the best of the CB's nothing new learned.

Esiti was not good he is too heavy and immobile and is not a replacement for Iwobi. His introduction changed the game dynamics at that time negatively. But giving him the benefit of the doubt. It's difficult to come in the way he did.

All the other substitutes thier appearance was academic not enough time to do show much. Dennis did show a little spark towards the end.

Finally, a great result considering it was a handball ball goal. Worrying though is the way we lost composure so quickly.

Prectega:
I don't see any reason for iwobi change

Aribo na low budget nwakali ..
Started well .. Ended badly

Motm today are etebo and iwobi

What will l classify this statement as ❓ and maybe you even watched the match.

MOTM Aribo

tbaba1234:
The game was killed by removing Iwobi and replacing him with Esiti..

Agreed without reservation or question.

chrisooblog:
you called it really poor game Reading from the coach second goal was a handball to be honest

100% hand ball albeit unintentional but it doesn't matter it's HAND BALL.

Osimhen is loosing his cool needs to calm down he is now on a yellow.

These Ukrainian players will start to wind him up.

He should be substituted now