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andrew444:
Adel Taarabt is still better than morrinson

Morrinson is a wasteman

Thanks to Sheffield united coach, this might be his last chance to grace the epl and he need to take it serious

Morrison is a total Wasteman, out on the club in Manchester hanging with his boys doing NUTTIN.

His problem are all self birthed, highly indisciplined, zero focus, etc

But again If he changes his ATTITUDE in a season or two he will be back in the EPL.

He reminds me of Balotelli sometimes a player who should really be challenging Messi and Ronald has settled for being the top man in the French league.

andrew444:
Championship is a lower league

EOD

Agreed without reservation in comparison to the EPL La Liga, Seria A, Bundesliga, French league one but not much else.

In saying lower league it has to be comparison based.

andrew444:
Lol ,this man ehnn, you get wahala

You are calling someone a flop , a player that was not given any chance

How can a play show what he can do with only 1 game?

Umar sadiq played just one game so how is he a flop, Gerard didn't give him any chance

Learn how to use the word flop and stop misusing it

Rangers is a club l actually know very well.

It waa not a SUPRISE AT ALL to me, many moons ago when the debate was going on here that Umar is better than Tega Abrahams and Ighalo.

I made the comment that Sadiq Umar would struggle in the English league one. With hindsight l was being generous and overly optimistic.

Each league has its unique characteristics whicc means you need certain attributes to survive and overcome. After watching Sadiq l said he lacks physicality although big and tall he lacks strength. At the slightest touch he falls over. I even suggested he may flat feet and a problem with his ankles.

Fast forward in training sessions he was woeful that's how bad it was getting bullied by youth players and oyibo at that. Now that's a disgrace from my prejudice double standard oyibo boys deh bully you Chei.

He ended up playing youth football U23 in one game he was substituted at half time didn't score and was not having impact. 17 year old Dapo Mebude came in to replace him and promptly scored a hat trick.

In summary Sadiq Umar was very poor he may do better in a less physically intensive league.

He is forever remembered very vividly in one of the two games he played for Rangers. When he was 1 on 1 with goalkeeper and instead of scoring or taking a shot he dives very poorly hoping to get the penalty. At that stage he was slated by everyone.

andrew444:
Are you saying the Scottish league is the same level with league one?

Me i thinks its still better than league one

Take out Celtic and what you have is essentially league one level possibly lower for some teams.

charlesemeka85:
Bros I'm a man utd fan so I doubt if u knw Morrison more than I do. He was in the same set with pogba and lingard in utd youth team and was even rated higher than pogba then but his biggest problem was attitude issues.

Morrison was a super talent then and tipped for great things but on the long run fell off. It's normal with youth players.

All i am saying is I don't want Nwakali to follow the same route. Alot is expected of him so it's high time he starts showing that rather than been an Instagram king.

Nwakali is not an EXCEPTIONAL TALENT just potential not realised.

andrew444:
He can get better okay, he is still young

Can any player be worst than waste man Ravel Morrinson who has failed in almost all the club he went to despite his potentials and the hype? even alex ferguson self dey hail morrinson then

Now ravel morrinson is getting a chance in the EPL not even the championship

There is no comparison nor linkage between the situations.

Ravel Morrison is very similar to Adel Tarabt INCREDIBLE TALENT but unfortunately VERY HIGHLY INDISCIPLINED.

Now he is getting his act together the potential is being recognised once again.

Joebie:
is Aneke better than Akpom? We have two "lions in a lower league" here

I would not call Championship lower league.

Earthquake2:
Chiba Akpom scored 4 goals in 5-1 victory over Fortuna Sittard

WOW !!! The forgotten man has woken up from his slumber.

He was exceptional at youth level winning everything buy could not transition that quality to first team football.

So he went to a backwater league to reinvent himself.

charlesemeka85:
Omeruo is a big player and I doubt aside Celtic and maybe rangers no club in Scottish football can afford his wages.

Celtic will offer him champions leagues football while rangers will offer him uel games as well. Rangers and Celtic are top clubs in Europe that are well recognized unlike kasimpasa and Istanbul. Rangers had financial issues which made them to be demoted few seasons ago but bounced back and are doing very well.

The reality is that Rangers and Celtic would not consider Omeruo good enough for thier teams.

Not too long ago a player that was rated higher than Tega Abrahams in the name of Sadiq Umar went to Rangers from a supposed higher league and club and was a TOTAL FLOP.

So Rangers though in a lower league is a higher European club in context of European football.

andrew444:
Lol komekn spirit don enter your body

If you dont like a player say you dont like the player rather than to shade

So aribo get noticed by a club in decent league? So scotland league is a decent league ? LOL , scotland league that you will hardly find player from there playing in the world cup, bros scotland no be decent league abeg

Cyprus league and danish league is even rated ahead of the scotland league you called a decent league, that should show you how crappy that league is.

I rest my case

The Scottish premier league is at best on the level of England league one.

However, must matters in the context of club football there are two clubs that generally win everything in the Scottish league. Celtic and Rangers with regards to Celtic theu are a team that always does well in Europe. They have a European high club rating much higher them thier league.

Rangers has fallen begin but is trying to catch up.

As a result Celtic mores so than Rangers are able to sell thier players yo the top teams in Europe.

So a good move by Aribo to gain access to either the championship and or the EPL on a much improved contract if he performs consistently.

Joebie:
MIDFIELD
These players need to be given another look in:
Anderson Esiti (DM)
Mikel Agu (DM)

These players should be given a chance as returnees:
Ramon Azeez (CM)
Azubuike Okechukwu (CM)

Most promising potential debutants:
Kingsley Michael (AM/CM)
Ovie Ejaria (AM/CM)

modified
dark-horse candidates:
Iyayi Atiemwen (AM/CM)
James Ikgbekeme (CM)
Joe Aribo (CM)

Everything should be based on continous consistent top quality performances in thier respective in and league.

By the way you, Eéeeeeee be like sai you contradict yourself. In saying that Aribo is ready for the SE and not Chuks

Because you said the Chuks has not been tested at a higher level implying that Aribo has.

Chuks was the most outstanding player in league one two seasons ago before MK Dons got relegated check his stats goals and assists. MK Dons refused to sell him blatantly after several firm offers from Championship clubs.

He was also the most outstanding player in league two.

He is now in the Championship and Aribo is in a much lower league. Rangers as a club is on league one level England.

So your proposition is contradictory.

Icon4s:
Watching these players' YouTube review is good. But it doesn't tell the whole story.

We have seen countless players in the past flop despite having eye poping video reviews.

There was a time on this thread when peeps would rate players as "our best defender", "our best striker" or "our best Midfielder" based solely on 5mins video reviews.
Now we know better.

There will definitely be injection of new bloods into the Super Eagles but this cannot be solely based on these 3-5mins video reviews.

But l made that intrinsically clear video footage is at best indicative.

But the pertinent component is STYLE OF PLAY and how well that fits into the SE ethos.

Please kindly hi back to my Post and l wrote at least two paragraphs on the ills and detriments of using video footage.

I went on to further describe the only type of video footage l.use myself.

Joebie:
Ebere Eze
I don't think Eze is an upgrade of Iwobi. Iwobi has played in a higher level consistently and well tested. That begs the next question, will he bring something different to the team? I don't think so.

Chuks Aneke
Calm and confident forward. Also very good with set pieces. However, we need to see him against tougher opposition to see if he can play at a high level at this time.

Josh Onomah
From what I've seen so far, I wouldn't recommend him to SE yet.

Joe Aribo
I think this is the only player who seems he can bring something that is lacking in the current SE. He is still developing, but he will definitely add something to the team.

I look at players individual attributes and how well they can affect the game irrespective of the league and club.

Each team has a preference as articulated by the manager for a particular type of player that reflects they style of play or team strategy.

The SE require technical ability and skill, but also physicality and drive. For me Aribo does that but with more physicality than Ndidi and determination he's an enforcer. And yes l think he has something to offer.

Onomah has lost his way a bit by not playing his preferred role as CM. He also had a hamstring Injury which did not help him. Nonetheless if the transfer to Fulham goes through it will win win for him because thier style of play on the deck intricate passing and technical football will suit him most. He had the ability to be the CM for the SE. He is not just technical bit has the best passing range.

Eze is very good on 1 on 1 but doesn't have the passing range to control games as a CM. Is Iwobi better o simply don't know. But consider this put Iwobi in QPR will he be the numero one and score 10 goals and 20 assists or even more. l actually doubt it, then put Eze in Arsenal what would he do.

But the BIGGEST and the one that for me is ahead from my own perspective is CHUKS ANEKE. Since coming back from a near two year injury nightmare. He has been the outstanding player for club and in each league consistently over the past two seasons.


He has everything technical ability, Both feet scoring regularly, skill and intelligence and s very wide passing range. Then add brute strength and ruggedness no matter the way you want to play he can play. Only one thing I'm not sure about is his pace hrs not slow not just super fast. He's in the Championship l expect him to score in thier first game end of season minimum 15 goals depending where he is played. Because he is versatile he was originally CM at Arsenal.

charlesemeka85:
I even forgot to mention seyi ojo

Seyi Ojo has not delivered on the expected promise.

Liverpool paid £1.8 million plus for him when he was 14 but he hasn't really met those great EXPECTATIONS.

He should have gone to Newcastle when he had the chance. As a player you need to play to progress and develop. You must shrewd about what option in terms of transfers to take and which to reject.

These decisions will make or break your career.

I know at Rangers he will score goals and probably be outstanding. However, it may not get him the required interest from the big clubs he desires. He should have gone to the Championship.

charlesemeka85:
I think he will play for us but if he doesn't we have alot of wingers who are yet uncapped.

Augburgs new singing sarenren, brugges duo of Okereke and Dennis as well as the capped duo of kalu and onyekuru are decent enough for us not to miss lookman.

To get to the top doesn't just require a good manager but top class players.

And therefore you need the best you can get not just decent.

edi287:
Aribo is quite good on the ball. He's a traditional two way b2b mid.
You are right about Chuks. I wouldn't mind seeing him in our Olympics team.

Tell me one players that can do what Chuks does in our current set of players.

Aribo plays almost like the old fashioned enforcer he is similar to Ndidi but drives forward more like Gerard with a decent shot.

Danielnino00:
And that's entirely Rohr's fault!!!

What stopped him from inviting players like Ebere Eze to try out the AM role?

The AM isn't really our problem..it's the way Rohr set up the team!! When Moses was around,he was our star player.. He had a lot of freedom in the team.. Could play anywhere up front.. that was how he thrived . But Rohr has reduced our wingers to playing more defensive...
You keep saying we don't have good players.. but these players will put up good performances at their club .

With the kind of stat the likes of Chukwueze, Onyekuru and Osimhen had last season, any serious coach would have know how to utilize them properly!!

I disagree.

Not with the kind of robust physical football played in the AFCON particularly Onyekuru and Osimhen are too lightweight.

Chukwueze is able but has a lot learn with end product.

Earthquake2:
You cannot build an attacking team with a weak spine

Liverpool afforded to build an attacking side of wingers because they have Salah, Mane and Firminho 3 mature worldclass players whose style is INTERPLAY and they have a solid midfield to recycle the play if their attack fails. And it took Kloop years

Please please please don't compare Liverpool with SE, we are still struggling with setplays

You have omitted a MAIN VITAL COMPONENT.

Arnold Trent Alexander and Robertson the two wing backs. Check the stats for assists from the two players who both have blistering pace and pinpoint accuracy with thier crosses.

In addition they can defend.

darkelf:
Komekn, why is Ebere still in QPR?

He is obviously too good for the championship.

Is there a tangible reason he isn't in a better club yet? I was thinking you may know why

From my perspective Ebere is a very skillful midfielder excellent on 1 on 1. However, when it comes to dictating the pace of the game from the midfield that's not his main strength.

That's why l rate Onomah more because he is able to dominant the game with a far greater range of passing ability.

With regards to club l felt that some of the mid range EPL clubs would find him as a good option. On the other hand most of the mid range clubs have noticed his ball distribution and passing range is not that great.

Sometimes it boils down to sheer luck and opportunity. Not every player in the EPL is better than the players in the Championship.

Danielnino00:
If Rohr can allow the team play more offensively, we can thrive without an AM..Last season Liverpool had no recognised AM in the team (Wijnaldum doesn't play as an AM at all). .In fact the midfield created less chance than most EPL team midfield .The bulk of the team's goals were created by Robertson and TAA who had the licence to bomb forward at will... We have good wingers in the team but Rohr is making them do defensive duties....

For good wingers to play they ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE Good quality Wing/Full backs or it is a waist of time and the team imbalance causes gaps across the field of play resulting in loss of team cohesion and connectivity.

Which cause panic and mistakes across the defense and pulls the midfield backwards and you loose attacking edge..

andrew444:
Lol

But i think dickson has a decent career

Agreed

andrew444:
At the bolded, i like that player, dickson etuhu, he had a brother that also played football right?

That's right Kelvin he played for Man city a few games but lacked long term consistent quality and fizzled out to the lower leagues.

charlesemeka85:
Let's just hope the duo of onomah and aribo plays for the super super eagles so all can evaluate their performances to ascertain who is better. Onomah seem like a player whose development hv stunted while aribo is on the trajectory and already winning the hearts of rangers fans.

You may argue that the Scottish league is not as strong as the championship but if onomah was as good as you portray him here always I see no reason pochettino who loves giving youngsters a chance in spurs team won't want to take him with the team for preseason let alone given him a chance this season.

On aribo's path, I will say he is a late blommer judging by the case that at the age of 17-18 he was playing non league football, got signed by charlton and in the space of a few months was promoted to their first team. His development have been tremendous and have been one of the best players in league 2 prior to his move to Scotland.

Few weeks after joining rangers he is already turning heads in the Scottish club with a lot of positives reviews from the clubs faithfuls.

Onomah is a good talent but inconsistency have been his ban. I will even rate ovie ejaria ahead of him just that he needs to bulk up a bit.

In aribo I see an unpolished young left footed Yaya toure. He is tall, very mobile, versatile, skillful with good passing range and a goal scorer as well. Some may say I hype this kid alot but I see something special in him and I bet he will be the toast of every member of this forum once the season kicks off.

Between him ovie, Eze and onomah I think he has what it takes to succeed in African football for now more than the other trio

I am not an advocate of video clips as the main tool to asses players it is too easily contrived and manipulated to make players look better than they actually are. When i submit video clips i only submit 5-7 minute clips of individual games not merge 5/6 games into one clip to make you look like Neymar when you are more like Phil Neville.

Aribo is tough battling midfielder who has fought his way against all odds to get to where he is, he hant been schooled in the technical niceties of the game but he is a warrior and he is somewhat similar to Gerrard in his style of play. Now that's the pertinent phrase STYLE OF PLAY.

So i am going to put three Youtube videos of these 4 players Aribo, Eze, Onomah,
and Chuks which gives a clear indication of thier STYLE OF PLAY then you can answer the question which most suites the 9ja way or if you like historical organisation delivery ethos of the SE.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErDm8bpnHPA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hMYD3xUATs



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_0--DvJ0Ew



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xW1zhLD8bY


The choice is your, Akpoo, Amala, Starch or Pounded Yam

Ovie does not need to bulk up AT ALL he is deceptively strong although he doesn't really like the physical side of football he is more intelligent and technical with his football.

edi287:
That's why we need to pick the likes of Aribo, Onomah and Eze

Aribo for me is a battler and hard man in the midfield similar to Ndidi not the most skilful and technically gifted he reminds me of a certain Etuhu that played for Nigeria.

Onomah and Eze are technicial gifted players with Onomah the better of the two for now, who can play as AM. Also you have Ovie who can not be ignored excelled in Glasgow Rangers in a league that's not as good as the Championship by a considerable stretch.

The dark horse that is going to suprise all of you this season in my speculative opinion is Chuks Aneke now at Charlton.

andrew444:
Why wont they say he is only good at the championship?

I am sure if osimhen is in Tega shoes you will say the same thing about him

Now let me educate you

Tega played at bristol in the championship and scored 23 goals in 41 games, then the following season he went to swansea and could only manage 5 goals in 31 epl games, is that not poor? thou he did his best because thats his first full season in the epl, but when tega returned to the same championship with aston villa he scored a massive 25 goals in 37 games, so na one season on one season off, so please dont blame anyone who said he is only good in the championship as you will also say so if its osimhen

Now tega should have the chance at chelsea now to impress, i beleive lampard will play him, if he doesnt impress he should kiss good bye to big club and go and restart from those small teams to proove him self again

Forget number 9, chelsea beleive on immediate impact, no be chelsea wey defender don wear number 9 before, i wish tega the best

Na dat overatted hudson odoi i want see wetin e go do

where is forgiveness?

B4 u begin deh find gear for automatic car, Let me
RE-EDUCATE YOU

Coming to the Championship as a teenager and ending up as one of the top goal scorers in the championship is not an easy thing to do.

Then going to the EPL with a relegation fighting Swansea who played survival football and how many different managers ❓

But to then go back to the Championship older and wiser and then at 21 (true age) be the top goal scorer is really outstanding consistent continous top class performance.

No wonder Chelsea have given him the number 9 jersey.

Hudson- Odoi is a teenager and to think he still just 18 and was playing in the EPL at 17 is simply supercalifragilisticexpialidocious LOL

Although to pay him £150k a week is simply MADNESS but as they say " Who dem put sugar for him mouth, were no go lick"

bataderemi:
Abraham has Chelsea's no 9 jersey for the new season.

I remember when someone said he only good for the championship as a derogatory comment.

There was hell fire and brimstone thrown on anybody who said he was better than KC, Osimhen, Ighalo but l noticed they have gone quite very quite, NOW.

Tega has a platform to deliver and it's no going to be easy. Chelsea is very impatient club yoi are given little time and you must DELIVER.

Admittedly giving him the number 9 jersey is big statement of how they value and rate him currently.

andrew444:
Chris tried sha, he kept them in the epl

He is man of unquestionable integrity incredibly humble doesn't preach the word but lives it.

Gr8 guy

Earthquake1:
Chris Houghton is a good coach but English premier league is no longer the place for conservative football

He will be employed in the championship soon

If you have essentially championship players then you can not play offensive football you have to play compact tight team game and work very hard.

To play offensive football you need quality players and that costs money and the bigoted chairman refused to spend but expected to Win.

darkelf:
Chris Houghton almost led his tram to relegation last season and got fired

What you should do is look at how much money Brighton invested in players recruitment. Thier main and only of striker of significance was 35 year old Glenn Murray.

There were many championship sides that invested more than Brighton. In effect what Chris did over 5 years bringing them from the lower division to the EPL and kept them in the EPL with no money was near miraculous.

The set up in Brighton is not what you think there is a lot more too it than you can imagine.

Earthquake1:
The guy is seriously overrated, he's just a low class Ndidi with a slightly better passing ability

go and check his stats and you will find you are completely off the mark with your emotive view.

krattoss:
not tryna take anything away from Gueye..but sometimes good agent comes into play here more than talent

I can assure you that is 100% CORRECT in general.

Apart from Chris Houghton, Darren Brown and maybe Klopp i can not vouch for any other manager.

For example Alex Ferguson son is agent, so are the brothers of Guardiola, David Moyes, etc, etc

Earthquake1:
This is better than sauce

Nothing to celebrate not a really good move.

How much a club pays for you is a reflection of the importance they have placed on you. He may highly likely end up in the U23's. He would have been better off going to a lower league club that really need you and will therefore play you.

I hope he proves me wrong and gets into the first team but it looks very unlikely, in my opinion not a good move, for career enhancement.

I remember when Uche Ikpeazu was the highest goal scorer in the U18 league in England, left Reading signed for Watford never played a single game for them after three years. Liverpool the highly marketed Jerome Sinclair who had the record of being the youngest player to play for Liverpool at 16. Considering Liverpool payed WBA £1 million for him at 14, thy sold him to Watford for near £5 million good pay for the club and player but zero career progression. Where is Jerome Sinclair now , struggling to get a game for Sunderland with non league staring at him in the face, he has chosen the relative ease of the Eredivise.