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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:11pm On Aug 05, 2019
andrew444:
Ogu is the only player from isreal league okay so stop saying players.

Scottish league is lowly rated if na that one you want talk, but i still have no problem is rohr invites him

Name the Nordic leagues we have invited players from apart from isreal league and maybe denmark, denmark is even a better league than scotland self

The worst league we have invited players from is isreal and its just few below scotland

The aribo is not even the best option we are having self , we have better options , someone said he his just like a tall etebo

We have another midfielder who plays for dynamo zagreb but my friend charlesemeka will not see that one o because of his love for aribo

If na by league scotland league is CRAP
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:02pm On Aug 05, 2019
safarigirl:
You underestimate the potency of women in the destruction of young stars.
I remember Guardiola literally banning young players from having girlfriends as an uneccessary distraction.

I remember the sharp calculating girl that had a child for Raheem when he was 17. She was older, much more street savvy and wiser than him. Well she gets paid a very good % of his income until that Child is 18. Income that allows her to live very well without lifting a finger drive s brand new range rover, etc

Adding another dimension to this. Do you know how many EPL players have been accused of rape❓ I know a few and in one case l knew the girl who was originally from E state calculating and cold hearted. She signed a NDA and got over £150k for a totally false allegation.

Players make a calculation based on legal fees, loss of earnings, suspension from club, Damage to reputation, stress of court proceedings, Endorsements lost, etc. Etc. It becomes much more expedient and cost effective to pay the thief and liar that the girls are are.

I know a player who played for Benfica came to the North West and fell victim to one of the girls. It nearly end his career, Liverpool were getting ready to sign him. He was 19 at the time and l don't think he has totally recovered. In the end he was discharged and acquitted but it took about a year yo get the judgement.

I Agree with you without and would add that they can MURDER, DISINTEGRATE, ANNIHILATE a young player career TOTALLY. All because of momentary pleasure.

The stories I could tell it would take days.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:41am On Aug 05, 2019
isan:
showing off girls or anything will not reduce or add their talent
Go and read the story of Lukaku and you will find you will change that notion you have.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:38am On Aug 05, 2019
andrew444:
I have no problem if rohr calls aribo

But are you sure rohr will look at the Scottish league ?
In the first place we are looking at INVITATION it's after performance we can have SELECTION.

If we can players coming from the Nordic leagues and even lsreali leagues. Then him playing for Rangers should not be an issue. Otherwise that's simple hypocrisy and double standard.

I have watched Aribo and I think he can bring a decent passing range, aggressive determination and some physicality but outstanding skill, technicality and being a CM to control the midfield for me a big NO.

You need different types of players to make a good team. He reminds me of Dickson Etuhu and Seyi Olifinjana who is now an academy coach at Wolves.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m):
Joebie:
well he showed great potential at that stage considering he was an academy player before inspiring Nigeria to win the U17 WC. This is the reason why many Nigerians want him to succeed. Playing for Man City that first season and scoring 4 goals in the meager match time he was given seemed very promising. Add to that, he was impressive in the GWG shortly after.
I want you first to consider the number of top class quality of players that surround you at City.

It's not a question of if you will score but numbers of goals scored. Put Ighalo, Ujah, etc in that position how many do you think they will scorehuh

I said ages ago the true test of KC quality is when he goes to a club that doesn't have the same level of top quality players supporting you.

Well that's happened and the rest has been history for the past two seasons at Leicester , abysmal.

The idea you can use number of minutes played to goals scored as a means of determining quality. Is simply not true. Some will say coming on as a sub when your opponents are tired and weary, is a lot easier to score. That's why we talk of supersubs.

The stats are clear therefore 20 games and 4 goals,if he showed more promise they would have given him.mote minutes and probably he would be still at Manchester city. But he was simply not good enough

Some fanatical fans being Superdelusuional and out of touch with reality found that hard to believe. And called him EXCEPTIONAL TALENT comparing him to Aguero, Mbappe, Gabriel, etc.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m):
[quote author=andrew444 post=80932208][/quote]Please give me one instance where I have given any excuse for the poor delivery of Solanke who Liverpool bought for peanuts but sold for £20 million. If you cannot well you know what you are

You need to read between the lines and understand the business of football. Sometimes a player is a good business transaction as opposed to a good football acquisition. Go back and read my comments on Solanke.

How come you don't use Tega Abrahams as the comparison l have praised him 100 times more than Solanke. Why Solankehuh

Solanke who l have met yes several times and l said it here many many moons ago, he has no affinity for Nigeria and will NEVER play for Nigeria.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:26pm On Aug 04, 2019
Bascovanveli2:
U are talking of QPR here. If their standards were that high they would be in the prem by now. This is why young talented players go to clubs like this so they will be able to get chances even after mistakes. If I am not mistaken that was his first full season as a pro and overall he did good.
He had a very good seasons on loan at Wycombe Wanderers that's what gave him leverage for first team football at QPR.

This is not about standard but competition within the club.

Have no mistake the Championship is still very competitive. Look at the prices of players in the Championship.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:23pm On Aug 04, 2019
andrew444:
2 seasons and not 3
4 goals at Manchester city in the EPL 2016/17 season after 20 games is not stats you would attribute to an IN-FORM Striker or would you ❓

You may have different standards for IN-FORM than myself.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:18pm On Aug 04, 2019
elyte89:
Considering his experience with d team and what we av @ d moment... "IF" HE can up his game and hit d form,its a no brainer,he shld b d heir to dt throne,Iggy left behind,osimhen to me wasn't convincing and ready for DT position, though u might want to argue he played just one match,but deres a popular saying dt says Sunday wey go good,na from Saturday we go knw,judging from dt match against Tunisia[b] ,I will pick an inform nacho ahead of osimhen[/b],anytime,anyday however maybe d new club (lille) he joined now will up his game and fitness level,and d oda options we av are "green horn" considering dey av no experience with d team...my opinion
That's the big conundrum in bold.

KC has not been in-form for over three seasons l suspect you will be WAITING FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

In the interim while we wait ad infinitum it seems for KC let's pick those IN-FORM currently please.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:27pm On Aug 04, 2019
Bascovanveli2:
The problem was that he hit a wall last season because that was his first year as a pro. U can't blame him much before then he was carrying QPR. Reminds u of Richarlison at Watford when he scored all those goals in the first half of the season then went blank in the rest.
Maybe so.

But this football business at club level is very unforgiving if you don't put on top performances consistently. Your position will be taken over by someone who can, that's football.

For me to tell him anything else is to set him up to fail.

To get time the top you need not just ability but determination, diligence and mental resilience.

Alex Ferguson waa harsh with his players to get the best out of them and push them to the next level. Pep cam be ruthless too look how Raheem has improved and how he dropped KC.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:12pm On Aug 04, 2019
elyte89:
As for ur first paragraph, it's a no brainer,many ppu here knew Mikel won't exceed 2019 calender year as a Nigerian player,few were only contemplating if he would honor d afcon tourney or not


And on ujah,going by Andrew444 analysis dt says,"IF" UJAH scores 15goals in a season in bundesliga,or churns out good performance week in week out,rohr will invite him,whether u rate him or not and to me dts correct cos we as a nation we can't afford to ignore a player/talent playing in such a league with such a decent "15goals" record in a season(we re not Brazil,Spain etc)


On rohr speaking abt nacho is a norm. he has been part of d team for a long time now,he can't wait to have him back but d truth of d matter is "IF" by November or so ,when eagles will play deir first match,and nacho doesn't enjoy enuf playing time let alone of scoring goals,he might not b invited,forget what rohr is saying now, but as a fan,I hope he continues his form cos of all d players we av @ d moment, nacho fits d no 9 position perfectly, he knws aw d team plays,so to me I think it will b a plus if both ujah and nacho churn out good performance on d pitch,just d way okereke is doing @ d moment
Consider what you have presented in highlighted in the bold.

That's most DISSAPOINTING coming from you of all people. I expected a more substantive approach or if you like balance score card assessment of sorts. Not this joining the bandwagon of sentiment and fanatical favoritism for a player who has failed over the past three seasons in the No. 9 role comprehensively.

A player is only as good as his last season, this is a short term career. There is very little time to impress.

For the past three seasons the truth must be told KC has been ABYSMAL. People talk about him like he was a prolific goal scorer. He simply was not they use statistics to misrepresent his attributes.

He scored 12 goals in two seasons for Manchester city in the EPL in his last season 2016/17 at City he scored 4 goals. For the past two seasons he has scored 4 goals in the EPL after 51 games, let's stop this unnecessary fanatical support its an insult to other Nigerian players who are doing well.

Now some are calling him a better prospect than Ujah currently that's not true. How many goals would Ujah score surrounding by world class players if given the same opportunity.huh

What we have here is shameless hypocrisy and double standard.

Then with regards to being a No. 9 KC is simply not an out an out striker he just doesn't have the attributes. In this regard there are too many ahead and better than him in that position.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:54pm On Aug 04, 2019
Joebie:
yes, Ekpolo grin
If I'm right he was a B player in Barcelona and didn't make it then ended up playing kick and rush in league one for Fleetwood Town. I watched him live he was not impressive I am sorry to say.

He didnt understandably last long if you have been playing pretty technical football in Spain and come to league one, it will be a big CHALLENGE to adapt.

I think he is in Sweden
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:22am On Aug 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Eze scored a lovely goal today. I pray he performs better this season
He need that thing that defines true quality CONSISTENCY.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:20am On Aug 04, 2019
andrew444:
Who was our best midfielder in the last afcon ?
IMO Etebo

Who was Algeria most influential playerhuh ❓ and who does he play for and in what league.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:44am On Aug 04, 2019
Humility017:
why do you always like hyping and supporting players that barely makes headway....with their careers

first if was onyedema...thereafter you picked up ilorfa and now it is aneke.
well...every man to his pot of stew
Players go up and they go down in performance that's football.

First of all l talked about Fred Onyedinma in comparison to the quality of players we were inviting.

Nonetheless, many moons ago l said he made a BIG MISTAKE completely misplaced loyalty to Millwall. This is kid thar won MOTM at the age of 17 in the Championship. Wanted by Arsenal, Tottenham and others.

Fast forward last 2017/18 Watford and QPR made confirmed bids for him. That foolish mistake to stay with a Quintessential kick and rush, blood and guts police game manager at Millwall gas literally ruined the ascendancy of his career.

I wrote him off two seasons ago.

However, I did not write off Dominic Iorfa he was not treated FAIRLY but denied opportunity to compete. After the shameful politics of Mendes at Wolves. He then goes to Sheffield Wednesday in the January window and as a defensive player scores three goals and is outstanding with severs assists. He may end up very shortly in the EPL.

Aneke is pure Quality and has been for quite sometime. How many players have been continous consistent top quality and the OUTSTANDING at club and league over the past two seasons. He has just leapfrog from League 2 to the Championship all this after a near two year Injury nightmare.

So apart from Onyedinma who has just sign with Wycombe Wanderers. Are you saying the other two are not making headway in thier careershuh


I should also add that there is no football age here too.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:26am On Aug 04, 2019
Icon4s:
You build with emerging players, even if u say they are average, they still have a chance to make it big. Not someone like Anthony Ujah who is a confirmed flop and has nothing to offer the team going forward.
That's a bit of a double standard.

What then is KC

What then is Isaac Success

What then is Nwakali both brothers

What then is Ogu( flopped in Europe went Isreal but regular in the SE)


The basis for INVITATION should and can only be your continous consistent top quality performances in your club and league NOTHING ELSE.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:22am On Aug 04, 2019
forgiveness:
How did 'bang average' Ujah win 5 MOTMS in the Bundesliga while the world class average Simy NWANKWO and ONUACHU never won a common spoon with a top club or in a top league?

You are not even an authority in this regard, so spare me the 'he is not part of the masterpiece' yans.

Besides, what is the difference between Simy at 27 and Ujah at 28? Hehehe! grin
We as Nigerians should NEVER bring age as an issue for selection. Because the reality is anybody born in Nigeria cant have his age Substantiated officially by governmental bodies. Apart from sworn declaration.

We know ourselves.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:24pm On Aug 03, 2019
forgiveness:
I know that for sure because I followed him from his days at psv. That was before he joined Barcelona.
I can't really speak Yoruba but can say a few of the basic words to get around. I made the mistake of assuming he had a limited understanding of Yoruba.

Well he completely floored me quite embarrassing.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:20pm On Aug 03, 2019
Danielnino00:
Somebody here was of the opinion that Ajayi performed well with Rotterham last season because they play kick and rush football. WestBrom is a different team with a different style of play. We shall see if the person was right (I'm sure u know who cheesy)
My opinion is the same it doesn't matter whether he plays for Barcelona or Accrington Stanley.

Ajayi is big tall battler not skilful or relying on tactical use of skill and guile to overcome but hard work and determination. He suited the kick and rush game that Rotherham play which is essentially his game.

In the very physical and intense Championship you will need to play ugly to win sometimes and to that you may decide to have a physical player to help you do that.

West Bromwich have decided they lacked some steel and grit and needed an enforcer. And Seyi fits the bill.

A bit like Felliani at Manchester United very limited player but a good big tall battler. Not a fans favourite but sometimes desperate times require desperate actions and so Jose used him. But not Sol.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:08pm On Aug 03, 2019
Taliban:
Sir K, Aneke no start today for Charlton wetin happen?
Injury looks like hamstring will need 2/3 weeks to recover possibly less.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:58pm On Aug 03, 2019
forgiveness:
Hmm! His father wants him to play for Nigeria.
He wants to play for Nigeria and he speaks Yoruba fluently as well as Dutch and English and some Spanish too
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:37pm On Aug 03, 2019
Danielnino00:
I mentioned 3 players but u focused only on "both of them" for obvious reasons...

It's alright. Onyekuru has been consistent for every club he has played for since he started playing professional football, but being lightweight is the only excuse for him not starting for the super eagles... Sadio Mane is currently one of Africa's best player. imagine if Aliou Cisse decided that Mane shouldn't be starting any game for Senegal because he is lightweight.. lol..Even Salah with his small frame dy captain Egypt... But Osimhen and Onyekuru are too small to start for the super eagles !
It's alright.. grin
Sane and Mane may not be the tallest but they are not lightweights. They are very strong and not easily shaken off the ball.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m):
Danielnino00:
This your comment get K leg o. I remember when u used to say u have meet a lot of Nigerians descent British that can speak their mother's tongue better than those born in Nigeria ..
grin
Not a lot just a few. I don’t think l said with regard to language A LOT.

There are ajebutter children born in Lagos with Yoruba parents that can't speak Yoruba.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:56pm On Aug 03, 2019
andrew444:
How are you sure he will start at everton? He is not sure of a starting shirt at everton but he will get game time sha
Looking at the current defenders Everton have the style of play and the fact that Zumah has gone back to Chelsea.

I see him playing a lot of games and then inevitably he will be first choice.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:34pm On Aug 03, 2019
andrew444:
He cant be guarantee starting shirt at lazio sorry

Maybe first team yes
Actually that's what they said and a big fat sign on fee to support it. His Dad is smiling with a very big smile, thats all I can say.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:33pm On Aug 03, 2019
andrew444:
He should join burnley, thou aston villa look like the strongest of the newly promoted teams with their 130 million spendings
I would advise him VERY STRONGLY not to have anything to do with Burnley and Dyche under any circumstances.

Villa and Everton and l expect Newcastle to come in for him very soon a big YES YES.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:29pm On Aug 03, 2019
andrew444:
Ighalo was not called up when he was not scoring

U don forget say nacho na our 1st striker?
With regards to KC there is a fanatical super delusional group of hallelujah praise singers, that irrespective of the Blatant statistics of non performance Staring you in the face can't stop HAILING HIM.


He has scored 4 goals in two seasons and thats still exceptional talent. He then scores in pre season against far weaker opposition. And what do we hear KC is Back he has Arrived, back to FORM. Quickly call him back. Thats favoritism, hypocrisy and double standard.

Until KC starts to perform and score at least 10 goals in a season he should be not be called there are far too many more deserving players.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:13pm On Aug 03, 2019
forgiveness:
Yes! Bobby Adekanye - Lazio and Sheyi Ojo - Rangers. They are both opened to play for Nigeria.
Bobby Adekanya has a long way to go, he needs to play competitive first team football for one season before anything can be said.

Seyi Ojo is already proven he has great end product but not a lot of skill and the obligatory flamboyance needed to endear yourself to the Nigerian fans.

You must understand it would FOOTBALL SUICIDE when you are a established England youth international. To declare for another country when you have not sorted out your long term contractual future.

That's exactly what Lookman, Ejaria , Ojo, Onomah, Iorfa, etc have done. However, you don't invite yourself there is still a protocol.

There were some who were NEVER going to play for Nigeria like Solanke and Ibe, which I said many many moons ago.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:56pm On Aug 03, 2019
mostob:
lookman this lookman that.. is he better than Henry ni?
BTW the way all these players try to sound English by force is hilarious o..see as Lukman become Lookman ..one was even calling himself Hybe instead of Ibe
It's just the cultural dynamics of being in England and the shameless failings of many Nigerian parents.

I meet 5th Generation Jews who speak and read Hebrew fluently. I meet Arabs and I am including North African that are 4th generation, but speak Farsi and Arabic fluently.

However, Nigerian children mostly cannot speak thier Father and or Mother tongue and some even came to England as teenagers.

Shockingly l find quite a few Nigerians born and never left Nigeria unable to speak any Nigerian language.

Ibe case is not his fault, his Nigerian Father has absent from his life. He was brought up by his Jamaican step Father.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:47pm On Aug 03, 2019
Joebie:
I remember Bonaventure starting in the Belgian league that same way. It's too early to celebrate.
Agreed without reservation.

However, if l say that it will be classed as bad belle as opposed to being realistic.

When the season has got into full swing then we will in a better position to appraise matters.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:40pm On Aug 03, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Burnley interested in Fikayo tomori
So also are Everton and Villa.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:56am On Aug 03, 2019
Danielnino00:
If wishes were horses ..



Shebi u like Rohr?? Don't be surprised to see Musa and Simon retain their starting shirt next month...

the man doesn't even rate the Belgian league... Onyekuru, Kalu and Osimhen were in hot form in Belgium but weren't deemed good enough to start by Rohr...
With regards to the AFCON l completely agree with Rohr decision. Both of them lack physicality and were too lightweight for the AFCON at that time.

New season mow, let's see how much they will improve and if they don't there will some others improving such as Odey.

It's current form that gets you called to the SE not past glories.

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