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Islam for Muslims / Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by LagosShia: 4:05pm On Jun 30, 2014
kazlaw2000: pls no e-bashing, brothers. Lets be courteous always.
For Allaah sake

i have long ignored that clown. he think uttering a mixture of spiced up lies, half-truths, concealment of the truth, insults and online thuggery would make his words acceptable. he doesnt know how to be courteous because he knows well that being courteous and reasoning would expose his denial and prick his conscience.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by LagosShia: 3:54pm On Jun 30, 2014
vedaxcool:
It is clearly unconscionable to argue with someone like u whose breed of dishonesty is exotic. U complain saddam was a minority ruling a majority, yet continue to defend a Shia-(ali worshipping )tyrant whose sect is clearly a minority and has on the blood of the thousands of innocents continue to tyrannically rule over them, if u say assad is popular so was saddam, who was able to rule of "80%"of iraq population without any civil war.

you must have had poo for sahur this morning for you to claim there is a "Shia branch of alqaeda". can Shias ever be accepted in a wahhabi terror organization or any organization for that matter? a wahhabi organization that is bent on killing shias, christians, and even sunnis opposed to wahhabism/salafism? are you insane? or lying and tyranny is just a Saqifah tradition you must live up to?

Sunni arabs in syria constitute 50% of the population. 20% is kurds (who are largely sunnis), 20% alawites, shia,druze and ismailis, and 10% christians. at least 20% of sunni arabs stand with assad. the minorities of kurds, alawites, shia, ismailis, druze, and christians are mostly pro-assad.that leaves about only 30% of the population who are anti-assad and mostly sunni arabs. so no, assad is not a minority "tyrant" ruling a "majority". the last election early this month demonstrated that. the west (who are "pro-democracy" ) and the arab tyrants opposed the syrian election because they know assad is popular, and all the bloodshed and mess in syria is sponsored by foreign countries and carried out by wahhabi/salafist terrorists. as for saddam, he didnt have any foreign country send foreign terrorists and mercenaries to fight him. saddam was gassing his own people. he committed genocide against the kurds in halabja. the kurds are mostly sunnis. saddam brutally suppressed the shia that they were not even allowed to hold ashura commemorations. he killled an entire shia village in dujeil because a few men from dujeil tried to assassinate him. fear God!


U go on to say saudi is behind isil yet the same arguement can be made about iran or the syria regime, people can claim isil started out as the shia branch of al qaeda till they fell apart , as isil fought other syrian rebels, while assad provided air support by ignoring isil - the extremist group and bombing the more moderate groups thereby granting isil victory over them but such is life now isil has turned to be a far more greater threat than d moderate group.

its when you have poo for sahur + the fasting that makes you think there can ever be a "Shia branch of Wahhabis alqaeda". ISIL fell apart with the "Islamic front" and the "Nusra front" (the other two alqaeda brands/affiliates in syria) because those two refused to pay allegiance to the terror head of ISIL, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. when have you heard in recent times a Shia bearing the name of "abu bakr"?


U keep yapping about saudi shias being mistreated when iran does worse to the sunnis deprive them of doing even what kafir regimes allow muslims to do, build a mosque they further arrest those who try to pray their own id fitr prayer. But your dishonesty won't let u raise the issue.

iran doesnt deprive sunnis from having their mosques. you are only required to reason a little, but reasoning doesnt take place in a skull that claims there is a "shia branch of alqaeda". this must be the breaking news of the millennium.


Lol so hindus defended husayn r.a becoz the shia cowards who decieved him to come to kabala were no where to be found when d fight started ? That's new. Any way I hope u use this ramadhan to learn how to be a little bit more honest to yourself. At the end judgement day will be about our conduct not how good u r in propaganda.

it is an honor for you to recognize that it is the duty of the Shia to defend him and for you to recognize that Imam Hussain (as)-the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, whom the Prophet (sa) said: Hussain is from me and i am from Hussain- is Shia and he is from us and we are from him. this is a great honor that he wasnt expecting the Sunnis, whose caliph (yazid) sent an army to besiege and behead him, to fight for him. however, no true Shia would "deceive" their imam. it must have been that those so called "shia" who deceived him to kufa were like those who called themselves "muslims" that wanted to assasinate the Prophet (sa) in aqaba. unlike you, we disassociate the hypocrites of kufa from anything Shia, and we only embrace the true Shia of Kufa who sacrificed everything for Imam Hussain (as), e.g. Hani Ibn Urwa (ra). you on the other hand, you praise those 12 hypocrites who wanted to assassinate the Prophet (sa) in aqaba and you regard them as amongst "rightly guided caliphs".

if you are honest to yourself, with the fervor you show, you wont stay a Sunni for one minute. arent you the same person who would consider everything recorded in history and in your hadith books as "non-incident"? or rather you believe those who call the coup of Saqifah Banu Saeda, the event of Ghadeer Khumm and the attack on the house of the Prophet's daughter by Umar as "non-incident"? do you fear God? fear God first before you fast. Imam Hussain (as) said: even if you do not believe in any religion and you do not fear the day of reckoning, at least, be a free human in this your world.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by LagosShia: 1:07pm On Jun 30, 2014
kazlaw2000: @lagosshia, i have not seen any concrete reason to believe ISIS is a Saudi machination. They are diametrically opposite. Infact some even claim they are allied to the Syrian goverment. They are debunking it. They were making fun of the Saudi government on twitter yesterday.
These ISIS guys are a different breed. Thats why you see everybody is concerned i.e the americans, the saudis, the iranians, the jordanians, the lebanese, the russians and the syrians.

if you want to know who is behind any of these groups, trace its financial sponsors or its source of funds. going by news reports, most of the groups that carry out sectarian killings in pakistan are funded by the saudis, either directly, or indirectly by wealthy saudi individuals or its intelligence agency in secret. they will call ISIL a terrorist group within saudi arabia but calssify them as "Sunni rebels" when they are fighting Shia in Iraq and the government of assad in syria. double standards. and this yeye ISIL is made up mostly of foreign fighters who are not iraqis or syrian. they are in other words hired mercenaries to spill the blood of muslims.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by LagosShia: 12:08pm On Jun 30, 2014
Hindu Brahmins Fought for Imam Hussain in the Battle of Karbala

See more at: http://www.hindu.bz/hindu-brahmins-fought-for-imam-hussain.html#sthash.HlBR9Dfx.dpuf
Islam for Muslims / Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by LagosShia: 12:00pm On Jun 30, 2014
125 Hindus (from India) will travel to Iraq to defend Imam Hussain’s shrine from Salafi and Deobandi terrorists

posted by Abdul Nishapuri | June 28, 2014



Great initiative by the Interfaith Unity against Terrorism (IUT) project led by Ali Abbas Taj, Editor in Chief of LUBP and leading human rights activist. It is also a great example of Muslim-Hindu Unity against Deobandi and Salafi terrorists of Al Qaeda, Taliban, ASWJ, Boko Haram etc. According to Indian newspaper daily Sahafat (Mumbai, 27 June 2014), more than 125 Hindus, in addition to thousands of Shias and Sunnis, have registered their names to travel to Karbala, Iraq, to defend the holy shrine of Imam Hussain (a.s.), the grandson of Prophet Muhammad (pbuhp) from the anticipated attack by the ISIS aka AlQaeda. It may be recalled that 1400 years ago, when tyrant Caliph Yazid (revered by Salafis and Deobandis) killed Imam Hussain and his family, a tiny group of Hindus (Hussaini Brahmins) sacrificed their lives defending him along with his family members and companions.



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Islam for Muslims / Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by LagosShia: 11:57am On Jun 30, 2014
vedaxcool: Isis like thaba stated is an extremist group, the only reason they have so far succeeded is simply becos the locals have supported them out of desperation and sectarinism of the maliki govt. What the war on terror has so far succeeded in doing is creating more terrorism. One can only wonder what the end of all this will look like?

like they say, a lie often repeated becomes the truth. can you state one sectarian policy of Maliki's government that discriminated against Arab Sunnis? the problem is not even about the Sunnis because the Kurds are mostly Sunnis and they are content. the problem is the Arab Sunnis and their born to rule mentality. otherwise, many important positions in Iraq, including the presidency occupied by a Kurdish, are held by Sunnis. compare the targeted discrimination of Shia in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Kuwait and you will see, if you are a fair person, that there is no discrimination in Iraq against Sunnis at large, and Sunni Arabs in particular. what is going on in Iraq is a war by proxy led by Saudi Arabia. the incessant suicide bombings killing Shia civilians and targeting Shia places of worship dont seem to be enough. they have now sent in ISIL to occupy Sunni areas. when ISIL takes control of Sunni towns, just like Boko Haram, and other Wahhabi alqaeda groups in Syria, it would be Sunnis themselves that will beg the non-Sunnis (Shia or Christians as may be the case) to rescue them from their extremism and brutality. the point is Maliki will go, and another Arab Shia (who barely make up 20% of the population) will take over in Iraq. yet still, the suicide bombings targeting Shia civilians will not stop and the Arab Sunni terror will continue. they will not rest until they install a Sunni tyrant to govern the majority Shia (as was the case in Iraq under Saddam, and the case in Bahrain of a Sunni tyrant ruling over an 80% majority Shia population). i think this time their wishes wouldnt come to pass as the Shia appear to be well armed in Iraq and capable of holding ground. Maliki will go, but he would be replaced by another Shia as commander in chief.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia And Sunni Muslim by LagosShia: 12:08pm On Jun 29, 2014
Rilwayne001: grin theyv got there own Qibla...grin grin

Deluded fellows grin

what an idiot you are!

those are intending pilgrims to Makkah being taught the rituals of hajj with an edifice of the holy Ka'ba. with this your post, i must ask:

are you trying to deceive others, or are you easily deceived? in both cases, it is a shame for someone like you.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia And Sunni Muslim by LagosShia: 12:05pm On Jun 29, 2014
BetaThings: I don't agree with the Shias but we have to tell the EXACT truth about them
Shias don't omit the name of the Prophet (SAW) from the adhan
They only add the name of Ali (RA) to the adhan
Watch this video
Sunni Shahada v Shia Shahada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oI9dYQHfWM
One is the shahada taken by a Sunni and the other is the one taken by a Shia
Now normally a Sunni takes two shahada - one about Allah's Lordship (and being the sole focus of worship) and the other about Mohammed (SAW) being Allah's Prophet. In the video we see Nouman Ali Khan making a third Shahada about Isa (AS) being a Prophet of Allah. I had not seen that 3rd Shahada before but the evidence for messengership of Isa (AS) that is in the Qur'an though and you will see it in the video
But the Shia Shahada additional Shahadas are not in the Qur'an
Now the major difference between Sunnis and Shias is that of Imamate, a concept/pillar of their deen that they cannot prove from the Qur’an unless they make incredible conjectures.
In contrast all the pillars of Islam according to the Sunnis can be EXPLICITLY found in the Qur’an

the doctrine of the imamate is in the Quran. obviously, you read the Quran without understanding it. that is not a negative point against you as arabic isnt your mother-tongue or you are very deficient in arabic, or you possibly depend on wahhabi interpretation/translation (just like the way they interpret/translate the videos you posted by smuggling words in english that the speaker didnt utter in arabic).

my dear friend, Imamate is in the Quran as you can see below:

http://www.najaf.org/english/book/19/36.htm

https://www.nairaland.com/1213613/holy-quran-5-55-tbaba-youre/1


Now I am talking about the twelver Shias who are the majority all over the world
There are other Shias like the Zaydis and Ismailis
But the Twelver are the most important in terms of number
Some Beliefs of Twelver Imams
There are 12 Shia Imams - Ali and his 11 descendants. The 12th and the last one is claimed to be alive (they say in occultation) in a cave
That is the Mahdi. Now that belief contradicts the Mahdi belief of Sunnis
A shia Imam is infallible - cannot commit sin or error

"Allah intends only to remove from you the impurity [of sin], O people of the [Prophet's] household, and to purify you with [extensive] purification." (Quran 33:33)


A Shis Imam is superior to ALL Prophets apart from Mohammed (SAW)
So Isa (AS), Ibrahim (AS), Musa (AS) etc are ALL inferior to Shia Imams

yes, just as in Sunni hadith, you will find the hadith in which the Prophet (sa) purportedly said a time will come when the scholars of his ummah would be like/greater than the prophets of banu israeel.


Shia Imams control all the atoms of this world

and Isa (as) in the Quran gave life to the dead. does that make Isa (as) god? by Allah's permission, any human can do wonders and miracles. giving life is the greatest of Allah's swt) attributes. He is al-KHALIQ (the Creator). yet, Allah (swt) gave that power to Isa (as). Allah (swt) made the angels bow to Adam (as). shouldnt your limited mind also classify those two as "shirk"?


Shia Imams who are all dead apart from the 12th one who went into hiding in a cave to avoid assassination can give humans want they want if humans ask them
Shias believe that Qur’an will only lead to MISGUIDANCE unless an Imams explain its meanings

the Prophet (sa) said he left behind the Thaqalain, and if we hold on to them both we will never go astray.


9 over 10 of the religion of a Shia is taqiyya - hiding what you really feel

They say this is necessary to avoid danger to their lives

firstly, taqiyyah is not "hiding what you feel". taqiyyah, also, is not what your dishonest munafiqoon translated in your videos as "lying". taqiyyah is an islamic concept that is found in the Quran.


Shias believe in temporary marriage (Mut’ah) though the scholars eulogizing such marriage will not allow their daugthers to engage in it

and mut'ah marriage is found in the Quran (4:24). if you are ashamed of what Allah (swt) has made permissible (even though not obligatory or a compulsory act), then others are not. we do not forbid what Allah (swt) has permitted. you follow the sunnah of Umar, and you forbid mut'ah of marriage and mut'ah of hajj. that is your business. you (Sunnis) even claim that it was allowed during the days of the Prophet (sa) but he later forbade it. that is your opinion.


Calling Allah without Mentioning Ali is Shirk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3-wTnlwpkY&list=PL66DF28FE1879C586

yes and yes and yes!!!! calling Ya Allah without "Ya Ali" and also, "Ya Muhammad" is shirk, shirk, shirk!!! of course, you do not know why and you dont know the meaning, value and weight of that statement because your Sunnism is a complete depiction of arab culture and arabian jahiliyyah practices that were passed down by the very those who fought against Islam and the Prophet (sa) and only "accepted" islam out of humiliation and not conviction. these were the likes of abu sufyan and his banu umayyah clan who you take your islam from and your scholars praised, in spite of their atrocities like beheading the grandson of the Prophet (sa) just a few decades after the Prophet (sa) passed away.

calling Ya Allah without Ya Ali is shirk because even the pagans of qureysh in the time of jahiliyyah believed in "Allah". they used to call on "Allah". but of course, they were polytheists and pagans. it is the Islam revealed to Muhammad (sa) and enshrined by the sword of Ali (as) against the aggression of the mushrikeen of quresh who were bent on eliminating Islam and Muslims, that brought tawheed. if you believe in Allah (swt) without Muhammad (sa), and Ali (as)-meaning the Ahlul-Bayt (as)- the possibility of you falling into shirk, misguidance and disbelief is very high, if you dont already have their traces in your beliefs.


Taqiyyah on / Taqiyyah off. Shias say different things publicly and privately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH3rRSy_PA8

taqiyyah is an islamic concept as found in the Quran and that is what we practice. it is not what you say that we practice, and it is not the words you insert or play with that our scholars didnt utter in arabic or persian that we believe in.

if you want to know about taqiyyah, this is what we believe (the entire lecture is in english, so you cannot change or play with words to doctor the lecture) :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d3R6RsbTJ0


How Shia try to deceive Malaysian Muslims

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QaN0YLhvl0
shouldnt you feel ashamed that we have to resort to taqiyyah for our beliefs to save our lives? look at how many christian sects and denominations are out there. do you hear them killing themselves or blowing themselves the way you have made it your duty to kill your fellow muslims? look at what is happening in iraq and pakistan. it is genocide against the Shia. so you want them not to conceal their beliefs,where there is danger, so that you "peace loving" wahhabi angels would slaughter them?


Calling the shrine/grave in the religion of Shi'ism (on Phone)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTnnxQ2erRU&index=8&list=PL66DF28FE1879C586
more red-herrings.

are they "calling upon him besides Allah" (7:194)? do they believe that the intercession (tawassul) or mediation (shafa'ah) of Imam Rida (as) is without the permission of Allah (swt)? of course, no Muslim can say that and stilll be a Muslim.

Allah (swt) says in the Quran:

"And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord, receiving provision," (3:169)

"And do not speak of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead; nay, (they are) alive, but you do not perceive." (2:154)

our Imams (as) and the prophets are all alive and with their Lord, but you Wahhabis do not perceive it!


If Allah Dies, Hassan Dies (May Allah forgive us for quoti ng this)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t-uNE9HMVw&index=3&list=PL66DF28FE1879C586

already explained in my above post.


Example of Mutah in Shiism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBqpkbVFfmw
already explained. however, your poeple in Syria are doing "Jihad Nikah" and in saudi and yemen (taking advantage of young poor yemeni girls) "misyar". these are bid'ah, but mut'ah isnt.

you can refer to:

ZhulFiqar: Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3255
"Sabra al-Juhanni reported on the authority of his father that while he was with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon hm) he said: O people, I had permitted you to contract temporary marriage with women…"

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3250:
Abu Nadra reported: While I was in the company of Jabir b. Abdullah, a person came to him and said that Ibn 'Abbas and Ibn Zubair differed on the two types of Mut'as (muta of Hajj and muta of women), whereupon Jabir said: We used to do these two during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger pbuh Umar then forbade us to do them, and so we did not revert to them.

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3261 'Urwa b. Zabair reported that 'Abdullah b. Zubair stood up (and delivered an address) in Mecca saying: Allah has made blind the hearts of some people as He has deprived them of eyesight that they give religious verdict in favor of temporary marriage, while he was alluding to a person (Ibn 'Abbas). Ibn Abbas called him and said: You are an uncouth person, devoid of sense. By my life, Mut'a was practised during the lifetime of the leader of the pious (he meant Allah's Messenger, pbuh), and Ibn Zubair said to him: just do it yourselves, and by Allah, if you do that I will stone you with your stones. Ibn Shihab said. Khalid b. Muhajir b. Saifullah informed me: While I was sitting in the company of a person, a person came to him and he asked for a religious verdict about Mut'a and he permitted him to do it.

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3252
Sabra Juhanni reported: Allah's Messenger pbuh permitted temporary marriage for us. So I and another person went out and saw a woman of Bana 'Amir, who was like a young long-necked she-camel. We presented ourselves to her (for contracting temporary marriage), whereupon she said: What dower would you give me? I said: My cloak. And my companion also said: My cloak. And the cloak of-my companion was superior to my cloak, but I was younger than he. So when she looked at the cloak of my companion she liked it, and when she cast a glance at me I looked more attractive to her. She then said: Well, you and your cloak are sufficient for me. I remained with her for three nights, and then Allah's Messenger pbuh said: He who has any such woman with whom he had contracted temporary marriage, he should let her off.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 139
Narrated Abdullah: We used to participate in the holy wars carried on by the Prophet and we had no women (wives) with us. So we said (to the Prophet). "Shall we castrate ourselves?" But the Prophet forbade us to do that and thenceforth he allowed us to marry a woman (temporarily) by giving her even a garment, and then he recited: "O you who believe! Do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you."

Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 43
Narrated 'Imran bin Husain: The Verse of muta was revealed in Allah's Book, so we performed it with Allah's Apostle, and nothing was revealed in Qur'an to make it illegal, nor did the Prophet prohibit it till he died. But the man (omar) just expressed what his own mind suggested



Sunni Quran Commentators on Verse 4:24,the Verse of Mut'ah and Its Revelation:

"This verse was revealed regarding Mut'ah"

Tafseer Ibn Katheer, Volume 1 page 84;Tafseer Durr al-Manthur, Volume 2 page 140;Tafseer Tabari, Page 9 part 5;Tafseer Kabeer, Volume 3 page 95;Tafseer Baydhawi, Volume 2 page 9.


What the Shias want

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJox1KDmNeI

propaganda.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia And Sunni Muslim by LagosShia: 10:31am On Jun 29, 2014
Empiree: I really dont want to be on this site this Ramadan or comment at all. We begin Ramadan on Sunday inshallah. I implore you all to avoid sectarian argument. Avoid posting things that other consider inappropriate or misrepresent their percepectives. This is just for the sake of the Holy month. You may continue your argument afterward.
Now, my questions to LagosShia and Baqir, pls watch videos posted by BeTathings, these are Shia (at least these folks or their sect's) creed. Not that I didnt know some of these things but i want to hear your opinion on those videos. Are those Shia Sheiks and Imams correct?. Is everything they said in the videos is what ALL Shias believe or they are just extreme sect saying stupid things on their own?. Are these Shia creed?.
Please forget about politics, forget about Sunnis' creed. Let's focus on Quran only. No sentiment. Just answer straight forward using Quran ONLY. Do you brothers (Lagosshia and Baqir) believe in what those people said in the videos including Shahada taken by Shia Imam?. Do you believe the man who said "If Allah dies(Nauzubillah), Ali dies?. These are clear statements. Answer is either Yes or No. Is that your creed or the people are just saying stupid things that dont represent all Shia sects?. Many things they said are not creed of a Muslim base on Quran. Forget about Sunni. Just bring your proofs from Quran (if you share the same creed with these folks) since you claimed you are Muslims. I understad Adhan part. Thats manageable. But they said some things that nullify(kufr) their Islam. You may answer after Ramadan. Thats fine with me. I will wait patiently till then. Thanks

these videos that BetaThing scavenge for on youtube, made by silly Wahhabis who lack intellect, are either deliberately twisting the words of these Muslim scholars, blowing them out of proportions, misquoting them, or taking the figurative literal to stir outrage among the unsuspecting or the uninformed on Shia beliefs. he has posted them before and i have answered to them (in other words, they are regurgitated trash). he keeps posting them because their purpose is not to tell you about the Shia, but to mislead you and scare you away. i wouldnt like to go over them again and waste my internet subscription as watching them costs money. however, if i am only to touch on the phrase you quoted that "If Allah dies, Ali dies", you cant just cut out this phrase without knowing the context it was being said in. i can also say "if Allah dies, the Quran would disappear/dies"...meaning it is impossible for the Quran to be eradicated because Allah (swt) has promised in the Quran that "His religion will prevail over all other beliefs", and therefore, it wouldnt be possible for anyone to eradicate the Quran or the message of Islam. for you to be able to eradicate the Holy Quran, Allah (swt) would have to die (astaghfirullah), which is an impossibility- as Allah (swt) doesnt die! according to hadith al-thaqalain, the Ahlul-Bayt (as) are one of the "thaqalain" (two weighty things)-the other being the Quran. in like manner as the Quran, no one can erase the memory or the presence of the Ahlul-Bayt (as). this would bring a reminder of Sayyida Zainab's (as) speech confronting Yazid in Damascus after the martyrdom of her brother, Imam Hussain, in Karbala: "make your schemes, and carry out your plans, and do your worst, but by Allah, you shall never erase our (the Ahlul-Bayt of the Prophet Muhammad (sa) memory (from the hearts of the believers) ". both the speech of Sayyida Zainab (as) and Imam Zainul-Abideen (as)-the only surviving son of Imam Hussain (as) after the Tragedy of Karbala-turned the emotions of the people against Yazeed.

it is very easy to cherry-pick and misquote,misinterpret, and twist words out of context. it seems Betathing is well pleased for his beliefs to be built on the trickery of wahhabi tricksters who go on youtube with nothing but the intent to mislead and misguide and tarnish the image of others without the fear of Allah (swt). i on the other hand, to separate truth from falsehood, can go to youtube and bring you videos of Sunni scholars saying blasphemous things about Allah (swt) and the Prophet (s), which are not doctored videos but full statements that are also not misinterpreted or misquoted out of context. enjoy the below for a start!

[size=16pt]SUNNI SCHOLAR: THE GRAVE OF THE PROPHET IS MORE NOBLE THAN THE ARSH (THRONE) OF ALLAH (astaghfirullah)!!![/size]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nTEAgJTyac

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Islam for Muslims / Re: What Allah SBWA Said And What The Shi'a Said by LagosShia: 10:27pm On Jan 06, 2014
Sunymoore: The Shia said sacrifice your blood for
Hussayn, Allaah ﷻ said “And make not
your own hands contribute to your
destruction” (Quran, 2:195)

subhannallah!

so this your fake sheikh called khalid yasseen (more like a freed prisoner convicted of gang rape) actually equates love for the Ahlul-Bayt (as) with "self-destruction"!!!

so in other words,had this fake sheikh being alive he would not have answered the call of the grandson of the Prophet (sa) to rescue him from the hands of the tyrant,Yazeed.

doesnt this sheikh read in the Quran the Verse of Mawaddah,where Allah (swt) made the love for the Prophet's (sa) Ahlul-Bayt (as) an obligation?

also today we cannot literally "die" for Imam Hussain (as),but we get killed for following his legacy without blinking an eye.doesnt this fake sheikh know that the Prophet (sa) said: "Hussain is from me and I am from Hussain"? and doesnt he read in the read that "those who fight for the Prophet and sacrifice their lives are doing so for the sake of Allah"? if the Prophet (sa) and Imam Hussain (as) are one,then wont it be logical to die for Imam Hussain (as),the grandson of the Prophet (sa)?


The Response of the Companions of Imam Hussain (as),When Imam Hussain (as) Gave Them the Option to Leave as the Army of Yazeed was Only After Killing the Imam (as) :

Zuhair ibn Qayn (RA),who was also a companion (sahabi) of Prophet Muhammad (sa),in his old age said, “By Allah I would love that I be killed, then revived, then killed a 1000 times in this manner if it keeps You with the young ones from Your Family.”

Muslim ibn Awsajah (RA) stood and said, “How is it possible we shall leave You and then before Allah say that we have fulfilled Your rights. By Allah not until I have thrust my spear into their hearts and wielded my sword until only its hilt shall remain in my hand, I will not leave You. If I have no weapon with which to fight, I shall throw stones at them to secure Your safety until my death.”

Saeed ibn Abdullah Hanafi (RA) said, “By Allah we will never leave You until Allah knows that we protected the Honor of RasoollAllah (saw). By Allah if I knew that I will be killed and brought back to life then burnt alive and my ashes scattered, I would not abandon You even if this process were repeated 70 times. How then could I not sacrifice myself for Your safety when I know that there is only one death with honor which can never be thrown aside.”

The other companions of Imam Hussain (asws) all spoke in similar fashion saying “By Allah we will not leave You. It is better our life and all of our being will be offered for Your protection. If we are killed, we will have faithfully carried out our oaths.”

if these are the responses of the companions/followers of Imam Hussain (as) who included the sahabah of Prophet Muhammad (sa),then am i to follow these companions or am i to follow Khalid Yasseen"?


The shia said curse the Prophet’s wives,
Allaah ﷻ said: “The Prophet is closer to
the believers than themselves, and his
wives are (in position of) their
mothers.” (Quran, 33:6)

we do not curse the "Prophet's wives",except if Khalid Yasseen is not aware that Aisha and Hafsah (the two wives disliked by the Shia for good reasons) are not the only wives of the Prophet (sa).how come we love Sayyida Khadijah (RA),Um Salamah (RA),Mariyah al-Qibtiyyah (RA),etc but not Aisha and Hafsah?

please review topic on Aisha and Hafsah,the two wives of the Prophet (sa),condemned in the Quran:

https://www.nairaland.com/1107764/story-sunni-imam-shia-ayatollah


The Shia said Curse be on the Prophets
Followers (i.e. companions), Allaah ﷻ
said “And the early forerunners – the
Muhajirin and the Ansar and those who
follow them in good: Allah is pleased
with them, and they are pleased with
him” (Quran 9:100)

another generalization.

does Khalid Yassen and his likes think Abu Bakr,Umar,Usthman,Muawiya and company who mistreated and oppressed the Prophet's (sa) Ahlul-Bayt (as) are the only ones who were "companions of the Prophet"? why is Khalid Yasseen limiting the title of "companions" to mean only those among the thousands of companions who oppressed the Ahlul-Bayt (as)? how come we Shia love and honor companions of Prophet Muhammad (sa) like Aba Dharr,al-Miqdad,Bilal,Salman,Hujr,etc (may Allah be pleased with them)?

also didnt he see the word "among" in the preceeding verse (? that means not "all",but only the believers.i hope Khalid Yasseen knows that in the Quran there is a difference between being labelled a "muslim" and a "believer" (mu'meen).the verses in question talk about the Bedouins and not about companions like abu bakr who has become "muslim" before Surat Tawbah was revealed.

also didnt Khalid Yassen who calls himself a "sheikh" read in the above verse he is misquoting the phrase: "those who
follow them in good"? i do not think someone who oppressed the Ahlul-Bayt (as) even if he be a companion is of any "good".the phrase is a condition set by Allah (swt).


The shia said call upon the Imaams,
Allaah ﷻ said ““And whoever invokes (or
worships), besides Allah, any other God,
of whom he has no proof; then his
reckoning is only with his Lord. Surely!
The Disbelievers will not be
successful.” [Quran 23:117]

Tawassul (intercession) and Shafa'a (mediation) are both Quranic concepts.the above verse of "worshipping or invoking besides Allah" doesnt apply here because Allah (swt) we believe is the Creator of all,and whatever power His chosen servants among the Imams and Prophets (as) have,they are from Allah (swt) alone.


The Shia said the Quran is not
complete, Allaah ﷻ said “…and most
surely, it is a mighty book. Falsehood
shall not come to it from before it nor
from behind it; a revelation from the
Wise, the praised One". (Qur’an
41:41-42)

this false sheikh should read "Sahih Bukhari" and "Sahih Muslim" and see that from Sunni books that Sunnis consider "authentic"/"sahih",it is said that the Quran has suffered tahreef (alteration).

the Shia stance is unanimous that the Quran we have today is the same Book revealed to Prophet Muhammad (sa).that is the stance of most of our ulama as it is also the stance of almost all Sunni ulamas.if he is trying to finger our hadith books which we do not title "sahih" as sunnis do with "sahih bukhari",then it is best he uses his judgement first on sunni books.we shia believe only the Quran is "sahih" and therefore we do not title any other book as "sahih".any other book is to be scrutinized word by word to know what is sahih and what is not.however sunnis tag entire books (actually 6 books) with "sahih" title.


The Shia said you are allowed to lie in
order to hide your faith (Taqiyyah),
Allaah ﷻ said “"Surely those who hide
from people the clear proofs and
guidance, which we clarified in the Book
(Qur'an), will be cursed by Allah and all
those who curse." (Quran 2:159)

how does concealing the truth to mislead people (as per 2:159) have to do with concealing one's faith to save his life? Taqiyyah (dissimulation or concealing one's faith to save one's life) is found in the Quran.Maryam (as),Prophet Ibrahim (as) and the believer among the people of the Pharaoh are reported in the Holy Quran to have practiced Taqiyyah.Taqiyyah is a Quranic concept,and yet based on the above,this fake sheikh considers Taqiyyah as "lying".


The Shia said their Imaams knows the
unseen, Allaah ﷻ said “None in the
heavens or the earth knows the unseen
except Allah” (Quran 27:65)
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Allah (swt) also said He is the One who reveals the Unseen to His chosen servants (the 12 Holy Imams are the inheritors of Prophet Muhammad's knowledge,as per the Hadith of the City of Knowledge)-that doesnt mean if these chosen servants are given the secrets by Allah (swt),that it is they who possess the knowledge :

He is the Knower of the unseen, He does not divulge His unseen to anyone- except a Messenger with whom He is well pleased, and then He posts sentinels before him and behind him. (Surat al-Jinn, 26-27)

- ... Allah has not given you access to the unseen. But [u]Allah chooses those of His Messengers whom He wills.
So believe in Allah and His Messengers. If you believe and fear [and respect Allah] you will have an immense reward. (Surah Al ‘Imran, 179)

-This is news from the unseen which We reveal to you. You were not with them when they cast their reeds to see which of them would be the guardian of Maryam. You were not with them when they quarrelled. (Surah Al ‘Imran, 44)

-That is some of the news of the unseen which We reveal to you. Neither you nor your people knew it before this time. So be steadfast. The best end result is for those who fear [and respect Allah]. (Surah Hud, 49)

-This is news of the unseen which We reveal to you. You were not with them when they decided what to do and devised their scheme. (Surah Yusuf, 102)

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Genocide Of Shia Muslims In Pakistan by LagosShia: 10:52pm On Jan 01, 2014
Pakistan car bombing kills Shia pilgrims

Explosive-laden vehicle blows up as bus passes by on outskirts of Quetta in first apparent sectarian attack of 2014.

Last updated: 01 Jan 2014 19:45


A suicide car bombing in Pakistan has killed two Shia Muslims in the country's first apparent sectarian attack of 2014.

The attack took place on Wednesday in Akhtarabad, on the outskirts of Quetta in Balochistan, and targeted a passenger bus carrying Shia Muslims who were returning from a pilgrimage to Iran.

"An explosive-laden car which was parked along the roadside blew up as the bus passed by it, killing two people and wounding 17," Abdul Razzaq Cheema, Quetta police chief, told AFP news agency.

He said that the 17 injured included four policemen.

Police officials who had been escorting the bus rescued passengers from the wreckage before it caught fire, Cheema said.

The bus was bringing back about 50 pilgrims from Iran.

Commander Razzaq, local bomb-disposal chief, told AFP that the car had been blown up by somebody sitting in it.

Nobody has so far claimed responsibility for the attack.

Pakistani media reported that President Mamnoon Hussain and Nawaz Sharif, prime minister, as condemning the attack and the Shia political party Majlis-e-Wahdatul Muslimeen announcing a three-day period of mourning over the incident.

There has been a rise in sectarian violence in Pakistan after fighting between Sunni and Shia Muslim groups near Islamabad in November last year.

Two huge bomb attacks in Quetta in January and February last year targeting Shia from the Hazara ethnic community killed almost 200 people.

Source:

AFP

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2014/01/pakistan-car-bombing-kills-shia-pilgrims-201411164239145555.html
Islam for Muslims / Re: A Timeline Of Sectarian Terrorism Against Shia Muslims by LagosShia: 10:51pm On Jan 01, 2014
Pakistan car bombing kills Shia pilgrims

Explosive-laden vehicle blows up as bus passes by on outskirts of Quetta in first apparent sectarian attack of 2014.

Last updated: 01 Jan 2014 19:45


A suicide car bombing in Pakistan has killed two Shia Muslims in the country's first apparent sectarian attack of 2014.

The attack took place on Wednesday in Akhtarabad, on the outskirts of Quetta in Balochistan, and targeted a passenger bus carrying Shia Muslims who were returning from a pilgrimage to Iran.

"An explosive-laden car which was parked along the roadside blew up as the bus passed by it, killing two people and wounding 17," Abdul Razzaq Cheema, Quetta police chief, told AFP news agency.

He said that the 17 injured included four policemen.

Police officials who had been escorting the bus rescued passengers from the wreckage before it caught fire, Cheema said.

The bus was bringing back about 50 pilgrims from Iran.

Commander Razzaq, local bomb-disposal chief, told AFP that the car had been blown up by somebody sitting in it.

Nobody has so far claimed responsibility for the attack.

Pakistani media reported that President Mamnoon Hussain and Nawaz Sharif, prime minister, as condemning the attack and the Shia political party Majlis-e-Wahdatul Muslimeen announcing a three-day period of mourning over the incident.

There has been a rise in sectarian violence in Pakistan after fighting between Sunni and Shia Muslim groups near Islamabad in November last year.

Two huge bomb attacks in Quetta in January and February last year targeting Shia from the Hazara ethnic community killed almost 200 people.

Source:

AFP

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2014/01/pakistan-car-bombing-kills-shia-pilgrims-201411164239145555.html
Islam for Muslims / Re: Was The Holy Prophet Poisoned (killed) Or Died Naturally? by LagosShia: 7:22pm On Jan 01, 2014
Did the wives of the Prophet poison him as narrated by al-Ayyashi?

This is a follow up question from the original question posted here: Was the Holy Prophet poisoned and martyred or did he die a natural death? - Please read that post first before reading this.

Question:

Did the two wives of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) poison him as narrated by al-Ayyashi?

Al-Ayyashi reported in his Tafsir (Volume 1, Page 200, Hadith 152), from Abdul Samad ibn Bashir, from Abi Abdillah (as) who said:


“Do you know whether the Prophet (pbuh) died (a natural death) or was murdered? Indeed Allah (swt) says (in the Holy Quran 3:144 “If he (the Prophet) dies or is killed, will you then turn back on your heels (as disbelievers)?”), he was poisoned before death, they both fed it (the poison) to him before death.”

Is this hadith authentic and how can we reconcile the original notion that the Prophet died a natural death?

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Answer:

Firstly, please refer to my original answer where I already dealt with this issue.

However, let us directly address this hadith. The only book that narrated the two wives of the Prophet (P) have poisoned him to death is ‘Tafsir al-Ayyashi ( vol 1: p.200), the rest have taken it from this source.

Although there are many good Ahadith in the book and it is regarded as one of the very useful ancient sources, however:

1. Mohammad Ibn Mas’oon al-Ayyashi was one of the eminent Shi’a scholars of the time of the Minor Occultation. He used to be a Sunni and then converted to Shi’a school. However, the late al-Najashi (the very famous expert in the science of al-Rejal, died in (450AH) whose opinion is usually well received) says in his book of Rejal about al-Ayyashi: “He was a reliable and an authentic person.. (yet) he used to narrate a lot from the weak people.”. Furthermore, the late Ayatullah Khoei says about him: “The Esnad of both Sh. Sadooq and Sh. Toosi to him is weak.”

2. We have no access to the original copy of the book. The version available to us today is compiled after the demise of al-Ayyashi by an anonymous person who says in the beginning of the book: “I could not find anyone in my area who has permission from the author (to narrate the book) or has heard it (i.e. the narrations of the book) from him. Therefore, I narrate its narration without any Esnad. However, if I later on find their Esnad I will mention them.” He has never mentioned the Esnad of any Hadith.

Therefore, firstly we are not sure if the book is really the compilation of the late al-Ayyashi himself, secondly all its narrations are Morsal (without any chain of transmitters) and as such we cannot base any belief on any of its narrations unless supported by other Islamically authenticated evidences. For example, the book has quoted many narrations confirming the distortion of the Holy Quran. Most of these narrations are narrated from Ahmad Ibn Muhammad al-Sayyari whom our experts in the science of al-Rejaal consider very weak and unreliable. (See: al-Khoei, 2:282) Would it be possible that such an important news is not narrated in any other book?!

In conclusion and further to the original points I made, it seems most likely that the Prophet (pbuh) died of natural causes and was not poisoned. And God knows best.

Answered by: Sheikh Mansour Leghaei

Source: Ask the Sheikh

http://www.aimislam.com/did-the-wives-of-the-prophet-poison-him-as-narrated-by-al-ayyashi/

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Foreign Affairs / "Sunni Monarchs Back Hate Preachers:Anti-Shia Propaganda Threatens Muslim World" by LagosShia: 11:08am On Dec 29, 2013
Sunday 29 December 2013

Sunni monarchs back YouTube hate preachers: Anti-Shia propaganda threatens a sectarian civil war which will engulf the entire Muslim world


Anti-Shia hate propaganda spread by Sunni religious figures sponsored by, or based in, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf monarchies, is creating the ingredients for a sectarian civil war engulfing the entire Muslim world. Iraq and Syria have seen the most violence, with the majority of the 766 civilian fatalities in Iraq this month being Shia pilgrims killed by suicide bombers from the al-Qa'ida umbrella group, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (Isis). The anti-Shia hostility of this organisation, now operating from Baghdad to Beirut, is so extreme that last month it had to apologise for beheading one of its own wounded fighters in Aleppo – because he was mistakenly believed to have muttered the name of Shia saints as he lay on a stretcher.



At the beginning of December, al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula killed 53 doctors and nurses and wounded 162 in an attack on a hospital in Sanaa, the capital of Yemen, which had been threatened for not taking care of wounded militants by a commentator on an extreme Sunni satellite TV station. Days before the attack, he announced that armies and tribes would assault the hospital "to take revenge for our brothers. We say this and, by the grace of Allah, we will do it".

Skilled use of the internet and access to satellite television funded by or based in Sunni states has been central to the resurgence of al-Qa'ida across the Middle East, to a degree that Western politicians have so far failed to grasp. In the last year, Isis has become the most powerful single rebel military force in Iraq and Syria, partly because of its ability to recruit suicide bombers and fanatical fighters through the social media. Western intelligence agencies, such as the NSA in the US, much criticised for spying on the internet communications of their own citizens, have paid much less attention to open and instantly accessible calls for sectarian murder that are in plain view. Critics say that this is in keeping with a tradition since 9/11 of Western governments not wishing to hold Saudi Arabia or the Gulf monarchies responsible for funding extreme Sunni jihadi groups and propagandists supporting them through private donations.

Satellite television, internet, YouTube and Twitter content, frequently emanating from or financed by oil states in the Arabian peninsula, are at the centre of a campaign to spread sectarian hatred to every corner of the Muslim world, including places where Shia are a vulnerable minority, such as Libya, Tunisia, Egypt and Malaysia. In Benghazi, in effect the capital of eastern Libya, a jihadi group uploaded a video of the execution of an Iraqi professor who admitted to being a Shia, saying they had shot him in revenge for the execution of Sunni militants by the Iraqi government.

YouTube-inspired divisions are not confined to the Middle East: in London's Edgware Road there was a fracas this summer when a Salafi (Sunni fundamentalist) cleric held a rally in the face of objections from local Shia shopkeepers. Impelled by television preachers and the social media, sectarian animosities are deepening among hitherto moderate Sunni and Shia, with one Shia figure in the UK saying that "Even in London you could open the address books of most Sunni without finding any Shia names, and vice versa."

The hate propaganda is often gory and calls openly for religious war. One anti-Shia satellite television station shows a grouping of Shia clerical leaders, mostly from Iran, Iraq and Lebanon, labelled as "Satan's assistants". Another asks "Oh Sunni Muslims, how long will you wait when your sons are led to be hanged in Iraq? Is it now time to break the shackles?" A picture of a woman in black walking between what appear to be two militiamen is entitled "Shia men in Syria rape Sunni sisters", and another shows the back of a pick-up truck heaped with dead bodies in uniform, titled "The destiny of Syrian Army and Shia soldiers". Some pictures are intended to intimidate, such as one showing an armed convoy on a road in Yemen, with a message addressed to the Shia saying: "Sunni tribes are on the way".

Sectarian animosities between Sunni and Shia have existed down the centuries, but have greatly intensified since the Iranian revolution of 1979 and the eight-year Iran-Iraq war that followed it. Hatreds increased after the US invasion of Iraq and the takeover of what had been a Sunni-run state under Saddam Hussein by the majority Shia community, which generated a ferocious sectarian civil war that peaked in 2006-07 and ended with a Shia victory. Opposition to Iran and the new Shia-run state of Iraq led to Sunni rulers emphasising the Shia threat. Shia activists point in particular to the establishment in 2009 of two satellite channels, Safa TV and Wesal TV, which they accuse of having strong anti-Shia bias. They say that Saudi clerics have shown great skill in communicating extreme sectarian views through modern communications technology such as YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, giving them a much wider audience than they had previously enjoyed.

An example of the inflammatory views being pumped out over YouTube is a sermon by Nabil al-Awadi, a cleric in Kuwait, who has 3.4 million followers on Twitter. His speech is devoted to "exposing the biggest conspiracy the Muslim world faces", which turns out to be a plot "conceived in Qom [the Shia holy city in Iran], and handled by sayyids and chiefs in Tehran, to get rid of the nation of Islam, aiming to desecrate the Kaaba [the building in Mecca that is Islam's most sacred site] brick by brick".

Mr Awadi relates that Iraq fell to an enemy whom he does not name, but he clearly means the Shia, often referred to as Safavids after the Iranian dynasty of that name. He says that in Iraq "they were killing the imams with drills in their heads until they are dead and they put the bodies in acid to burn until they died". But the speaker looks forward to a holy war or jihad in Syria, where a great battle for the future of Islam will be fought and won. He warns that "they did not know that jihad is staying and will put fear in their hearts even if they are in Washington, even if they are in London, even if they are in Moscow".

In Egypt, the Shia are only a small minority, but a cleric named Mohamed Zoghbi reacted furiously to the suggestion that they appear on satellite television to debate religious differences. "We would cut off their fingers and cut off their tongues," he said. "I must cut off the Shia breath in Egypt." Bloodthirsty threats like this have great influence on ordinary viewers, since many Egyptians watch religious channels continuously and believe the opinions expressed on them. An example of what this kind of incitement can mean for Shia living in communities where Sunni are the overwhelming majority was demonstrated in June in the small village of Zawyat Abu Musalam, in Giza governorate in Egypt. Some 40 Shia families had previously lived in the village until an enraged mob, led by Salafist sheikhs, burned five houses and lynched four Shia, including a prominent local figure.

Video films of the lynching, which took place in daylight, show the savage and merciless attacks to which Shia minorities in many countries are now being subjected.

Hazem Barakat, an eyewitness and photojournalist, minutely recorded what happened and recorded it on Twitter in real time. "For three weeks, the Salafist sheikhs in the village have been attacking the Shias and accusing them of being infidels and spreading debauchery," he told Ahram Online. Film of the incident shows a man, who looks as if he may already be dead, being dragged through a narrow street in the village by a mob. Among the four dead was 66-year-old Hassan Shehata, a well-known Shia leader who had been twice jailed under Hosni Mubarak for "contempt for religion". Police came to the village but arrived late. "They were just watching the public lynching like everyone else and did not stop anything," said Mr Barakat.

A significant sign of the mood in Egypt is that immediately after the lynchings, a TV host said that Mr Shehata had been killed because he had insulted the Prophet Mohamed's relatives. Several Salafist and conservative Facebook pages are cited by Ahram Online as having lauded the murders, saying that this was the beginning of eliminating all the three million Shia in Egypt.

Given that Shia make up between 150 and 200 million of the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, they are a small and usually vulnerable minority in all countries aside from Iran and Iraq, though they are numerous in Lebanon, Pakistan and India. In Tunisia last year, a pro-Palestinian march by Shia in the city of Gabes was attacked by Salafists chanting, "There is no god but Allah and the Shia are the enemies of God." Tunisian eyewitnesses cite the influence of Egyptian and Saudi religious channels, combined with the Salafists claiming to be the last defence against an exaggerated threat of a takeover by Iran and the Shia.

The propaganda war became more intense from 2006 on, when there were mass killings of Sunni in Baghdad which, having previously been a mixed city, is now dominated by the Shia, with Sunnis confined to enclaves mostly in the west of the city. The Sunni community in Iraq started a protest movement against persecution and denial of political, social and economic rights in December 2012. As the Iraqi government failed to conciliate the Sunni with concessions, a peaceful protest movement mutated into armed resistance.

The enhanced prestige and popularity of the Shia paramilitary movement Hezbollah, after its success against Israel's air and ground assault in 2006, may also be a reason why Sunni governments tolerated stepped-up sectarian attacks on the Shia. These often take the form of claims that Iran is seeking to take over the region. In Bahrain, the Sunni monarchy repeatedly asserted that it saw an Iranian hand behind the Arab Spring protests in early 2011, though its own international inquiry later found no evidence for this. When President Obama said in September that Bahrain, along with Iraq and Syria, suffered from sectarian tensions, the Bahraini government furiously denied that any such thing was true.

Social media, satellite television, Facebook and YouTube, which were praised at the start of the Arab Spring as the means for a progressive breakthrough for freedom of expression, have turned into channels for instilling hatred and fear. Fighters in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and other countries beset by violence often draw their knowledge of the world from a limited number of fanatical internet preachers and commentators calling for holy war by Sunni against Shia; often such people are crucial in sending young volunteers to fight and die in Syria and Iraq.

A recent study of dead rebel fighters in Syria by Aaron Y Zelin of the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation indicates that jihadi death notices revealing country of origin show that 267 came from Saudi Arabia, 201 from Libya, 182 from Tunisia and 95 from Jordan. The great majority had joined Isis and the al-Nusra Front, both of which are highly sectarian organisations. A deeply dangerous development is that the foreign fighters, inspired by film of atrocities and appeals to religious faith, may sign up to go to Syria but often end up as suicide bombers in Iraq, where violence has increased spectacularly in the past 12 months.

There is now a fast-expanding pool of jihadis willing to fight and die anywhere. The Saudis and the Gulf monarchies may find, as happened in Afghanistan 30 years ago, that, by funding or tolerating the dissemination of Sunni-Shia hate, they have created a sectarian Frankenstein's monster of religious fanatics beyond their control.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/sunni-monarchs-back-youtube-hate-preachers-antishia-propaganda-threatens-a-sectarian-civil-war-which-will-engulf-the-entire-muslim-world-9028538.html
Islam for Muslims / "Sunni Monarchs Back Hate Preachers:Anti-Shia Propaganda Threatens Muslim World" by LagosShia: 10:46am On Dec 29, 2013
Sunday 29 December 2013

Sunni monarchs back YouTube hate preachers: Anti-Shia propaganda threatens a sectarian civil war which will engulf the entire Muslim world


Anti-Shia hate propaganda spread by Sunni religious figures sponsored by, or based in, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf monarchies, is creating the ingredients for a sectarian civil war engulfing the entire Muslim world. Iraq and Syria have seen the most violence, with the majority of the 766 civilian fatalities in Iraq this month being Shia pilgrims killed by suicide bombers from the al-Qa'ida umbrella group, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (Isis). The anti-Shia hostility of this organisation, now operating from Baghdad to Beirut, is so extreme that last month it had to apologise for beheading one of its own wounded fighters in Aleppo – because he was mistakenly believed to have muttered the name of Shia saints as he lay on a stretcher.



At the beginning of December, al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula killed 53 doctors and nurses and wounded 162 in an attack on a hospital in Sanaa, the capital of Yemen, which had been threatened for not taking care of wounded militants by a commentator on an extreme Sunni satellite TV station. Days before the attack, he announced that armies and tribes would assault the hospital "to take revenge for our brothers. We say this and, by the grace of Allah, we will do it".

Skilled use of the internet and access to satellite television funded by or based in Sunni states has been central to the resurgence of al-Qa'ida across the Middle East, to a degree that Western politicians have so far failed to grasp. In the last year, Isis has become the most powerful single rebel military force in Iraq and Syria, partly because of its ability to recruit suicide bombers and fanatical fighters through the social media. Western intelligence agencies, such as the NSA in the US, much criticised for spying on the internet communications of their own citizens, have paid much less attention to open and instantly accessible calls for sectarian murder that are in plain view. Critics say that this is in keeping with a tradition since 9/11 of Western governments not wishing to hold Saudi Arabia or the Gulf monarchies responsible for funding extreme Sunni jihadi groups and propagandists supporting them through private donations.

Satellite television, internet, YouTube and Twitter content, frequently emanating from or financed by oil states in the Arabian peninsula, are at the centre of a campaign to spread sectarian hatred to every corner of the Muslim world, including places where Shia are a vulnerable minority, such as Libya, Tunisia, Egypt and Malaysia. In Benghazi, in effect the capital of eastern Libya, a jihadi group uploaded a video of the execution of an Iraqi professor who admitted to being a Shia, saying they had shot him in revenge for the execution of Sunni militants by the Iraqi government.

YouTube-inspired divisions are not confined to the Middle East: in London's Edgware Road there was a fracas this summer when a Salafi (Sunni fundamentalist) cleric held a rally in the face of objections from local Shia shopkeepers. Impelled by television preachers and the social media, sectarian animosities are deepening among hitherto moderate Sunni and Shia, with one Shia figure in the UK saying that "Even in London you could open the address books of most Sunni without finding any Shia names, and vice versa."

The hate propaganda is often gory and calls openly for religious war. One anti-Shia satellite television station shows a grouping of Shia clerical leaders, mostly from Iran, Iraq and Lebanon, labelled as "Satan's assistants". Another asks "Oh Sunni Muslims, how long will you wait when your sons are led to be hanged in Iraq? Is it now time to break the shackles?" A picture of a woman in black walking between what appear to be two militiamen is entitled "Shia men in Syria rape Sunni sisters", and another shows the back of a pick-up truck heaped with dead bodies in uniform, titled "The destiny of Syrian Army and Shia soldiers". Some pictures are intended to intimidate, such as one showing an armed convoy on a road in Yemen, with a message addressed to the Shia saying: "Sunni tribes are on the way".

Sectarian animosities between Sunni and Shia have existed down the centuries, but have greatly intensified since the Iranian revolution of 1979 and the eight-year Iran-Iraq war that followed it. Hatreds increased after the US invasion of Iraq and the takeover of what had been a Sunni-run state under Saddam Hussein by the majority Shia community, which generated a ferocious sectarian civil war that peaked in 2006-07 and ended with a Shia victory. Opposition to Iran and the new Shia-run state of Iraq led to Sunni rulers emphasising the Shia threat. Shia activists point in particular to the establishment in 2009 of two satellite channels, Safa TV and Wesal TV, which they accuse of having strong anti-Shia bias. They say that Saudi clerics have shown great skill in communicating extreme sectarian views through modern communications technology such as YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, giving them a much wider audience than they had previously enjoyed.

An example of the inflammatory views being pumped out over YouTube is a sermon by Nabil al-Awadi, a cleric in Kuwait, who has 3.4 million followers on Twitter. His speech is devoted to "exposing the biggest conspiracy the Muslim world faces", which turns out to be a plot "conceived in Qom [the Shia holy city in Iran], and handled by sayyids and chiefs in Tehran, to get rid of the nation of Islam, aiming to desecrate the Kaaba [the building in Mecca that is Islam's most sacred site] brick by brick".

Mr Awadi relates that Iraq fell to an enemy whom he does not name, but he clearly means the Shia, often referred to as Safavids after the Iranian dynasty of that name. He says that in Iraq "they were killing the imams with drills in their heads until they are dead and they put the bodies in acid to burn until they died". But the speaker looks forward to a holy war or jihad in Syria, where a great battle for the future of Islam will be fought and won. He warns that "they did not know that jihad is staying and will put fear in their hearts even if they are in Washington, even if they are in London, even if they are in Moscow".

In Egypt, the Shia are only a small minority, but a cleric named Mohamed Zoghbi reacted furiously to the suggestion that they appear on satellite television to debate religious differences. "We would cut off their fingers and cut off their tongues," he said. "I must cut off the Shia breath in Egypt." Bloodthirsty threats like this have great influence on ordinary viewers, since many Egyptians watch religious channels continuously and believe the opinions expressed on them. An example of what this kind of incitement can mean for Shia living in communities where Sunni are the overwhelming majority was demonstrated in June in the small village of Zawyat Abu Musalam, in Giza governorate in Egypt. Some 40 Shia families had previously lived in the village until an enraged mob, led by Salafist sheikhs, burned five houses and lynched four Shia, including a prominent local figure.

Video films of the lynching, which took place in daylight, show the savage and merciless attacks to which Shia minorities in many countries are now being subjected.

Hazem Barakat, an eyewitness and photojournalist, minutely recorded what happened and recorded it on Twitter in real time. "For three weeks, the Salafist sheikhs in the village have been attacking the Shias and accusing them of being infidels and spreading debauchery," he told Ahram Online. Film of the incident shows a man, who looks as if he may already be dead, being dragged through a narrow street in the village by a mob. Among the four dead was 66-year-old Hassan Shehata, a well-known Shia leader who had been twice jailed under Hosni Mubarak for "contempt for religion". Police came to the village but arrived late. "They were just watching the public lynching like everyone else and did not stop anything," said Mr Barakat.

A significant sign of the mood in Egypt is that immediately after the lynchings, a TV host said that Mr Shehata had been killed because he had insulted the Prophet Mohamed's relatives. Several Salafist and conservative Facebook pages are cited by Ahram Online as having lauded the murders, saying that this was the beginning of eliminating all the three million Shia in Egypt.

Given that Shia make up between 150 and 200 million of the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, they are a small and usually vulnerable minority in all countries aside from Iran and Iraq, though they are numerous in Lebanon, Pakistan and India. In Tunisia last year, a pro-Palestinian march by Shia in the city of Gabes was attacked by Salafists chanting, "There is no god but Allah and the Shia are the enemies of God." Tunisian eyewitnesses cite the influence of Egyptian and Saudi religious channels, combined with the Salafists claiming to be the last defence against an exaggerated threat of a takeover by Iran and the Shia.

The propaganda war became more intense from 2006 on, when there were mass killings of Sunni in Baghdad which, having previously been a mixed city, is now dominated by the Shia, with Sunnis confined to enclaves mostly in the west of the city. The Sunni community in Iraq started a protest movement against persecution and denial of political, social and economic rights in December 2012. As the Iraqi government failed to conciliate the Sunni with concessions, a peaceful protest movement mutated into armed resistance.

The enhanced prestige and popularity of the Shia paramilitary movement Hezbollah, after its success against Israel's air and ground assault in 2006, may also be a reason why Sunni governments tolerated stepped-up sectarian attacks on the Shia. These often take the form of claims that Iran is seeking to take over the region. In Bahrain, the Sunni monarchy repeatedly asserted that it saw an Iranian hand behind the Arab Spring protests in early 2011, though its own international inquiry later found no evidence for this. When President Obama said in September that Bahrain, along with Iraq and Syria, suffered from sectarian tensions, the Bahraini government furiously denied that any such thing was true.

Social media, satellite television, Facebook and YouTube, which were praised at the start of the Arab Spring as the means for a progressive breakthrough for freedom of expression, have turned into channels for instilling hatred and fear. Fighters in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and other countries beset by violence often draw their knowledge of the world from a limited number of fanatical internet preachers and commentators calling for holy war by Sunni against Shia; often such people are crucial in sending young volunteers to fight and die in Syria and Iraq.

A recent study of dead rebel fighters in Syria by Aaron Y Zelin of the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation indicates that jihadi death notices revealing country of origin show that 267 came from Saudi Arabia, 201 from Libya, 182 from Tunisia and 95 from Jordan. The great majority had joined Isis and the al-Nusra Front, both of which are highly sectarian organisations. A deeply dangerous development is that the foreign fighters, inspired by film of atrocities and appeals to religious faith, may sign up to go to Syria but often end up as suicide bombers in Iraq, where violence has increased spectacularly in the past 12 months.

There is now a fast-expanding pool of jihadis willing to fight and die anywhere. The Saudis and the Gulf monarchies may find, as happened in Afghanistan 30 years ago, that, by funding or tolerating the dissemination of Sunni-Shia hate, they have created a sectarian Frankenstein's monster of religious fanatics beyond their control.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/sunni-monarchs-back-youtube-hate-preachers-antishia-propaganda-threatens-a-sectarian-civil-war-which-will-engulf-the-entire-muslim-world-9028538.html
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Love Of The Messenger And The Companions by LagosShia: 11:20am On Dec 28, 2013
busar: Allah is pleased with all of them.Don't worry yourself about the companions but mostly about yourself.
As for the one that left Islam for Christianity, do you still regard that one as a sahabah? Maybe you can help us to define who a sahabah is.

Bingo!

If going by the above is your yardstick to choose who is and who isnt a sahabah,then we have nothing to disagree about.in fact we are in the same boat.

Since the one that left Islam cannot be regarded a sahabah,then how can you say Allah (swt) is pleased with "all of them"?that one was once among the sahabah,you'd agree with me.now the question you need to answer to get in touch with reality: do you still regard the one that insulted the Prophet (sa) on his deathbed,calling him delirious,a sahaba?he is among those you praise,for the hint so you can identify him.
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Love Of The Messenger And The Companions by LagosShia: 10:36am On Dec 28, 2013
There was a companion who left Islam for Christianity.are we to love him too? Or abu bakr and umar are the only two that make up "the companions"?

What happens to the love of the Messenger (sa) and his Ahlul-Bayt (as)? The love of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) is ordered in the Quran-Verse of Mawaddah.why leave those whose love is ordered by Allah (swt) to group thousands of men under the title of "companions",many of whom are of questionable character and moral standing? Of course that is not to say there were no good,pious and honorable companions.there were in fact many.but the point is why dwell on a group with a generalized title without distinguishing among its members to impose loving them? You must have known well that muslims do not agree on all the sahaba.we should either dwell on the ones all muslims agree on,or dont raise the topic at all if you are to cite abu bakr and umar under the generality of "companions".
Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 11:57pm On Dec 27, 2013
opeyemi@2013:
hahaha so you can still waste your precious time to respond to me. Dont tell me you dont use your takiya to make false assertion that majority of syrians are supporting criminal assad. Criminal assad government is not legitimate government, since there is never any free and fair election since assad family has been suppressively ruling over syrians. Criminal assad took the government of brutal oppression from his father, who also massacred thousands of syrians during his time. Am begining to hate these shias more they always rejoice for the misfortune of sunnis. I listening to a documentary program on bbc radio, which talked about the persecution of minority shias in south east asia especially indonesia and malysia. I had sympathy for them when i listened to the program but later come to the fact that they dont deserve our sympathy because shia hate us(sunni) to death, they are hypocrite and always rejoice for the misfortune of sunnis example of it, is what is going on in syria, egypt and iraq.

take your free and fair elections to your wahhabi kingdom of saudi arabia,where an entire country is named after a family.at least syria has a parliament even though a one party state.it is far from perfect.but for someone who is a fan of saudi arabia to be asking for democracy in syria is utter hypocrisy of the highest order.imagine saudi arabia sending suicide bombers into syria to support "democracy".isnt that just crazy?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 11:51pm On Dec 27, 2013
you have not presented the evidence you should present.present evidence of salafists condemning the killings of innocent worshippers,be they christians or shias.the means of suicide bombing to kill "may be" wrong in their own religious understanding of legitimate means to kill those they regard as "disbelievers".but do they condemn the end,which is targeting of non-salafists? if the salafists/wahhabis use guns instead of suicide bombing, to kill Shia and Christian civilians,is that right?

and oh yes,they can issue veiled condemnation of suicide bombing (i.e. wahhabis blowing themselves,not condemning the killing of innocent Shias or christians),but yet the killing sprees against Shia and Christians continue.hypocrites!

i will treat your post and shred it!

Stalwert: ^^^
of course you cannot play games with Allah

of course i cannot,except if you have assumed the role of being "Allah".astaghfirullah! who made you Allah's spokesman? typical wahhabi mentality.


It seems the Liar and Hypocrite has rushed to bed because of his dubious, treacherous and dishonest nature, when a so called Muslim slanders other Muslims to promote his useless sect of grave worshipping and utterly senseless self flagellation cult, then one needs to ask what do u really worship when you pray? why is Lying your only means of preaching a senseless cult of self flagellation?

i am still awake.waiting for more nonsense from what you imagine to be Islam.


Please for those who are not used to Lagosshia lies, here are links about the so called salafist condemning terrorism,

https://www.nairaland.com/1496903/qaradawi-condemns-blasts-churches

" Qaradawi condemned the attacks on religious places, and warned that these kinds of attacks might spoil the social structure.
Stating that the bloodshed of Christians living in a Muslim country was “haram” (forbidden) in Islamic teaching, Qaradawi said that Islam absolutely rejected such attacks."

it is very easy to expose you.it is forbidden to shed the blood of christians living in a Muslim country,because the christians in qaradawi's definition of "muslim country" are regarded as "ahl dhimmi".what happens to christians not living the status of dhimmitude in non-muslim countries? what does qaradawi says about christians killed in Nigeria,which is not a muslim country? of course there is always a veiled condition when a salafist "condemns" terror, and killings of innocent civilians.

this is the same Qaradawi who passed a fatwa permitting the killing of anyone (Shias that is) who chant the slogan of "YA HUSSAIN"!!!


https://www.nairaland.com/1553837/saudi-mufti-suicide-bombers-criminals

suicide bombers in the arabian peninsula and yemen.what of those in iraq and pakistan targeting Shia? and those in nigeria targeting christians? i have already stated that these traders of religion (so called muftis) only pass fatwas to condemn what affects the interests of their saudi royal pay masters.


salafee-imam-visits-church
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/05/us-egypt-attack-brotherhood-idUSBRE9840HC20130905

the egyptian imam that visited a church is no salafist.stop lying.he is an al-azhar cleric (mainstream sunnis).salafists/wahhabis regard al-azhar as an institue promoting "disbelief".


http://www.islamopediaonline.org/news/muslim-brotherhood-condemns-attacks-against-coptic-christians-Egypt
http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/74813.aspx

enforcing dhimmitude!


Many more and yes the Liar and Hypocrite Lagosshia can go to sleep knowing what he has invoked upon himself!

i dont feel offended.you are just blinded by ignorance and religious fervor.otherwise with the daily suicide bombings targeting Shias in Iraq and Pakistan,and christians in Nigeria,you dont need any evidence to be convinced.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 11:01pm On Dec 27, 2013
Stalwert:


Notice the munifqoon has finally distanced himself from the West, the same West that is realising Salafist are terrorist no longer know what they are talking about when it comes to Iran and Hezbollah. The above response is clearly a classical display of HYPOCRISY, now we see that because he has quoted the WEST as credible source for defining who is a terrorist, he now turns his back at the same WEST that Labels iran a TERROR SPONSORING STATE!

i am not the one distancing myself.the west knows the truth.only that wahhabis/salafists are too dumb to see that they are just tools.the west used in afghanistan and now in syria.in syria,its a win-win situation for the west.assad and hezbollah are anti-israel.the salafists/wahhabis are terrorists that target western civilians.so two camps views by the west as threatening are fighting.the point is the wahhabis/salafists would keep shedding muslim blood even if that weakens islam and the muslims in general.its dumb! and this dumbness is deadly with an extremist ideology of killing everyone who doesnt adhere to a school of thought (i.e. the wahhabi/salafist school of thought).you may not understand how middle east politics unravel.


I MOVE FURTHER THIS REMAINS UNANSWERED,

WE WEAIT TO SEE WHETHER THIS HYPORITE CAN SAVE HIMSELF FROM BEING BRANDED A LIAR!

"I LagosShia invoke Allah curse upon myself if i am lying that Salafists/Wahhabis do not condemn terror acts and suicide bombing against Shia civilians in Shia mosques or christian civilians in churches".

and please do not bring me a literally blind,and an hypocrite from saudi arabia,calling himself "mufti of the kingdom",and a descendant of Ibn Abdul-Wahab (the founder of wahhabism),to tell us suicide bombers will go to hell.this hypocrite refers to the suicide bombers who target his saudi royal pay masters and their interests.otherwise,he is very much in tune with his "heroes" who blow themselves up killing the "disbelievers", "mushrikeen" and "rafidha".show me one instance of a Salafist/Wahhabi cleric condemning the thousands of suicide bombings in iraq targeting Shia pilgrims in holy sites.i have not come across one.all i come across are salafist/wahhabi fatwas permitting shedding the blood of those who dont believe as they do.i can bring you videos of wahhabi muftis who are paid by the saudi royalty.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 10:47pm On Dec 27, 2013
opeyemi@2013:
yes i knew sufism and shia have something in common which is bidiah.

so what makes you call the sheikh a sufi?

truth is all muslims have something in common.only wahhabis/salafists have nothing in common with muslims because they dont follow what Islam states in upholding the sanctity of the human soul.criminality is not part of Islam.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 10:42pm On Dec 27, 2013
opeyemi@2013:
i knew you will reject my bitter true equation, but fact remain that the four i equated together dont malign sahabas, recognised the four caliphs, follow the same books unlike you shia that are totally misguided away from mainstream islam. Hezboshaytan is a terrorist oganisaction because am very aware of terrors they have committed in the past and in the present most especially in syria, where they are supporting criminal assad to continue to slaughter syrians especially sunnis who are majority in syria. So your effort to paint hezboyshaitan good is futile, we know what they are up to. You sound arrogant for saying my post is ignorant, if you think am wasting your time dont bother to respond to me again after all i dont force you to respond to me

ok,

so when has rejecting your 3 tyrants amount to becoming a disbeliever?

as for hezbollah supporting assad,your saudi arabia has exported wahhabi terrorists into syria with the support of turkey,qatar and the west.assad is the legitimate president of syria.foreigners from saudi arabia calling themselves "jihadists" have no role to play in syria's political landscape by spreading terror.majority of syrians support their president.arab sunnis make up 50% of syria.half of them back assad,while another half oppose.the majority of assad's army is sunni.so?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 10:38pm On Dec 27, 2013
Stalwert: grin grin
grin since lagosshia has accepted that Iran is terror sponsoring state and Hezboshaytan a terror group, we can all go and rest seeing that the hypocrite accepts terrorism as fair game. I rest my case, his only problem with the muslim brotherhood is that they are not shii terrorist, no they simply are a movement he finds challenging the grave worshipping shamelessness of shiis misguided belief. Remember he by accepting the Iran sponsors al Qaeda means that Iran works closely seriously to destroy Islam by sponsoring groups that the WEST he so much worships termed terror organisations. The hypocrite goes further and lie that Salafist cleric do not condemn terrorism, now he behaves like the kafiroons who lie muslims do not condemn terrorism, Lagiosshia Invoke Allah curse upon yourself if your statement that Salafist do not condemn terror acts and suicide bombing against civilians. I dare you to do so, and if you fail to do so, you are a dammed Liar and Hypocrite!

dont force getting flogged again,Vedaxcool.

you talk too much nonsense and baseless imaginations encapsulated with insults to express your beliefs.

your desperate attempt,instead of condemning the problem,is to put the Shia and your bloodthirsty wahhabis/salafists in the same boat.it doesnt work that way.your wet dream that iran sponsors alqaeda has not being established once by iran's staunchest enemies and rivals.how can your "islamists" friends accept help from Shia Iran?

but just in case you are so dumb and wahhabic,are you not ashamed that your wahhabi heroes in alqaeda are sponsored by the Shia whom you refer to as "grave-worshippers"? where is your principle of "eliminating" disbelief and killing the "idolater" Shias who "worship" graves?

iran and the west have a longstanding history of political rivalry and enmity.iran doesnt go about bombing churches packed with innocent christian worshippers because Bush is an evangelical christian,like your boko haram does against innocent christian worshippers.get real.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 10:23pm On Dec 27, 2013
harbiola1:
All these have nothing to do with either Sunni/Shia theology differences or Islam as a religion. Political interest is what Islamic nations are using to relegate Islam to God knows where. And arguing over it won't do any good.

Well, I pray that Iran has what it takes to befriend US.

the problem is Islamists and Islam are not the same.in fact the former is no product of the latter.Islam cannot be contained and owned by a party,group,sect or individual.it is for all muslims.that is the point extremists fail to see in regarding only themselves as Muslims/"islamists" and others as "not muslim enough".and that exactly is the issue at hand the Sunni sheikh from al-azhar tackled in the above video.wahhabis/salafists in fact are not a sect of islam.they are a movement or an ideology within sunni islam,that the majority of sunnis dont adhere to.and by many standards,wahhabis/salafism is a deadly cult tarnishing the image of Islam and muslims,and also acting as a burden when muslims are to stand up for their justified causes and to defend their due rights.

you dont call yourself an islamist and claim to be defending/representing/imposing islam,and suddenly you regard whoever opposes you as opposing islam.islam is no one man's property.the sunni,the shia,the sufi,etc all belong to Islam.you dont declare 95% of muslims as "idolaters" (mushrikeen) or "disbelievers" (kuffar) and expect only yourself to be the "face of islam".therefore the brotherhood's Muhammad Morsi is no more muslim than General Abdul-fattah al-Sisi who overthrew him.simply because the so called islamists speak with a tongue painted with religion doesnt mean they are right or only them are muslims.in fact they are hijacking Islam.people in our own part of the world get deceived because they fail to see that not everyone with a long beard and claiming titles in Islam is right.we can still disagree with them and be muslims.they are not prophets or infallible.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 10:15pm On Dec 27, 2013
^

if we are to accept the above allegations,then its a fair game.iranian nuclear scientists have also been assassinated and iran has accused israel and the west.hezbollah officials including its secretary general were assassinated.

also in most of these allegations,iran and its ally deny involvement.the salafists/wahhabis dont deny or condemn targeting civilians in Shia mosques or christian churches.again,all these allegations have to do with attacks on political establishments of the opposing side.like for instance,hezbollah was accused of the bombing in burgas,bulgaria by israel.that accusation was used to pressure the EU, after decades of reluctance and refusal, to designate hezbollah's military wing as a "terrorist organization".and the sad part is even bulgaria came out to deny evidence pointing to hezbollah's involvement and stated the accusation is political.

my challenge still stands to any Wahhabi/Salafist sympathizer, to bring one instance where a Shia suicide bomber has blown himself up among civilians in a Sunni mosque or a christian church,as wahhabi/salafist terrorists often do in iraq against Shia and in Nigeria against christians.you will not find one instance.if i am to go further,even the jews and the christians dont go into mosques to blow up people.what is salafism/wahhabism turning Islam into?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 9:08pm On Dec 27, 2013
Al-Azhar Sunni Sheikh: Shia are Muslims and Salafists are extremists:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF68my1oQXM
Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 9:07pm On Dec 27, 2013
opeyemi@2013:
mr man you must face the reality that sunni=wahabism=salafist=the 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation of islam. Anyone who is seeking to follow the true islam must follows the best 1st, 2nd and 3rd generations of islam. Shia iran is funding hezboytan to unleash terror across middle east, some of there terrorism extended to africa, recently members of hezboshaytan were jailed in nigeria and kenya. One of the prominent politician in lebanon who was sunni was murdered today by hezboyshaitan. The same way they killed rafik hariri who was also a sunni.

no sir,the three terms are not the same,even though often used to deceive the unsuspecting and to brainwash the sunni youth.your 1st,2nd and 3rd generations of Islam were not all angels.the earlier you realize they included both pious and evil men,the better.you cant follow all.

i have not read in the news where Hezbollah (you are derogatively referring to) has unleashed terror in the middle east.where? the only entity hezbollah has unleashed terror on,as found in its mission statements,is israel.and as we all know israel is an occupation force that is far from innocent.check wikipedia and read that the creation of hezbollah itself as a force against or a resistance movement was in reaction to israel's invasion of lebanon, up to the lebanese capital beirut,in 1982.

as far as those lebanese arrested are concern,read Justice Adetokunbo's verdict.none were hezbollah members,and only one was found guilty for arms found underneath his house in kano.and justice Adetokunbo clarified that belonging to hezbollah is not illlegal or a criminal offense in Nigeria as far the lebanese community is concerned,and in particular Lebanese Shia Muslims.hezbollah also happens to be a political party in lebanon with members in both parliament and government.

there is no evidence hezbollah killed hariri or is responsible for the former minister assassinated today.in the news i read,the group condemned the assassination,and evidence have emerged that it is a salafist affiliated group with alqaeda (ala boko haram) in lebanon that killed the minister,who happens to be a moderate sunni politician.your post stinks of ignorance.why do you waste my time? read first and comment later.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 5:49pm On Dec 27, 2013
harbiola1:
That Islam is?

that is Islam and the vast majority of Muslims have nothing to do with the Wahhabi/Salafist extremism and terrorism,which in many cases is funded with Saudi petro-dollars.in fact,the west knows that often at times,the west has used the extreme wahhabi ideology to further its interests.this was seen in afghanistan against the soviet union and presently in syria against the pro-russian and pro-iranian syrian alawite-led regime of assad.however,after the rapprochement between the US and Iran (under Hassan Rouhani's tenure),it seems the west is coming to terms with reality.the west would prefer a powerful and straightforward Shia Iran to a filthy and weaker wahhabi saudi arabia for relations.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by LagosShia: 11:31am On Dec 27, 2013
please watch this video of CNN's Fareed Zakaria's "What in the World".it is about Saudi Arabia,Wahhabism and Terrorism:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/11/01/exp-gps-1103-witw-saudi-arabia.cnn.html

if this is coming from CNN (an american outlet,the US being a Saudi ally),then it looks like the west is finally coming to terms and seeing the reality of things.

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