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Jenifa_:
haha that's cool. you just have to find a lady who is a bit more extroverted than you.
men tend to be generally more introverted than women anyway.

introvert of course

Of course. Well you seem like you'll make a nice friend, introvert or extrovert (and everything in between). But I'm really worried if you'll be able to fuel my car as and at when due. @fuel price hike. That's the only condition.

Jenifa_:
@laidback,
yes it really is all relative.

so I am wondering how you are when you are with your girlfriends. who is usually the more introverted one? who is usually the more extroverted one?
when you say you are more attracted to introverts, does that mean that you prefer to be the extrovert in the relationship? or do you prefer yourself to be the more introverted one in the relationship.

if you want an extrovert,find one who is just a little bit more extroverted than you. so you can cope with each other.
if you want an introvert, I think you should be fine. you just have to be a little bit more extroverted than her.
there has to be a balance.


kinda like identical twins, one is usually more extroverted compared to the other. even though they both might be introverts.
or a married couple.
or any relationship in general.
it's all about balance really

Yeah, I guess you're right. But I'd really prefer a lady more extroverted than I am since I'd rather listen more often than talk.

By the way Jenifa, you introvert?

Jenifa_:
what makes it difficult for you to hang on to extroverted girlfriends?
how do you mean by you tend to like introverted women who prefer extroverted guys? do they tell you that?

about the opposites attract thing, what I would assume is that when two introverts are together, one of them will be more extroverted than the other. ex.if your gf was 8.5 introverted, you would be the more extroverted one. or in her eyes, you would be extroverted.

Hmm, this makes the whole concept relative rather than definite like the OP tends to suggest.

I meant I tend to prefer introverted ladies for serious relationships, but they (introverted ladies) tend to prefer extroverted guys. It's just my perception. I don't know may be its just me or my extroversion isn't enough for the extroverted  ladies to cope with or maybe I'm just generalising. Like I said it's kinda confusing.  But i like your analysis. Nice  

[quotedo you have any introverted close friends?
how introverted are you on a scale of 1-10?][quote][/quote]Yep. I have like 3 really close friends, been great friends for years now. One of them is introverted, but occasionally you'd mistake him for an extrovert. The remaining 2 are completely extroverted. my other good friends are a mix with more being extroverts.

As for female (romantic) relationships, I find it difficult to hang on to the extroverted ones. But basically I'm a one at a time kind, only move on to the next if the present doesn't work out - if you get my drift. I tend to really like the introverted ladies who seem to prefer the extroverted guys. It's confusing!

On a 1-10 index, i'm a 6.5 introvert

EagleNest:
Fantastic tread! So meaningful that it culd help many to discover who they really are. I recommend this piece for NL Nobel prize for Peace. This tread trascended tribes and languages. It soothes instead enrage, heals instead of bring pain. I love it!

I couldn't agree with you more.

maclatunji:
Introverts are not uniform with their interests. It is likely that as a human being whether extrovert or introvert you will be interested in someone who has traits or interests in things that you value very much. Once they meet your criteria you would naturally gravitate towards them- whether they would like you in return is a different matter.

This thread is moving towards the question: can an introvert man get the girl he wants? Big question, I think we mostly do because we are more cautious and calculating in our approach,  proposals like this not uncommon:

Hello, I have been observing you for some time and like you a lot. I don't have the time to play around but would like to have a serious relationship with you. It is okay if you want to think about it but I would really like a sincere response from you- I hope you will say yes!

What do you think the girl would say?

No it's not about whether the Introvert can get the girl. I usually don't have problems getting a girl I'm attracted to reciprocating that interest. It's just that as introverts we tend to over analyse a lot. So instead of just going with the flow and watching how things pan out. I want to know upfront if it is worth it.

Also I somehow just like the opposites attract theory. My closest friends (for years) are the very smart and witty extrovert types - so i think my romantic, (opposite-sex) relationships should mirror this particular trend. but it rarely does, in that I till find myself liking introverts. infact I've noticed most of these same introvert ladies seem to prefer the extroverted guys. However if I really like her i'll still go ahead and score some great points. do you understand my ish?

This thread has been spot on! Comments from Tpia, freecocoa, demain and of course Kobojunkie have been invaluable. Also, I'm not at all surprised that iice is admitting to being an introvert - had a cute falling out with her once.

However, being an introvert myself, my question is this: Are introverts attracted to introverts or to extroverts, when it comes to forming deep, long lasting, romantic relationships? My opinion is that since opposites attract, introverts should be attracted to extroverts. But I find as an introvert, I tend to fall more for introverts. But somehow this leads to excessive hours indoors which ultimately leave me phlegmatic.

Please someone respond to this question. I'm about 30 yrs, but this still leaves me sometimes confused. I know! weird ehn?

Hi guys,

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Please which of these is the best? In terms of good service, trustworthiness, reliability, timeliness? Anyone who has any experience with them please? I used Africaretail once, my goods arrived, but only after quite a while,

What bothers me is the way this guy's name keeps reappearing in dialogue on public issues. He obviously intends to contest 2015 elections again!

If she had come forward and publicly identified the guys, is it the above with their dismal track record that will protect her?

I dont care even if she was the Town Ashawo, No is No and the 1 hour version and the abridged version clearly shows her in distress and saying no in different languages.

It is easy to sit and type accusatory words blaming her. I don't care what her lifestyle was, those rapists have probably done a similar thing before and will do it again. And next time, it could be you irrespective of whether you are a man or a woman.


Thank you for the above. A word is enough for the wise.

My opinion is that events in the video I watched seem to portray the second scenario, and so while the boys evidently commited violation, it would be worthwhile to determine the broader circumstances of the matter

Now that you have made it clearer, let me also make it clearer for you.

No it would not be worthwhile to 'determine the broader circumstances of the matter', after confirming the occurrence of a rape. Especially when broader circumstances of the matter refer to issues like whetehre she was originally good at sex or not.

delpee:
Just read Punch. Says she was slapped around a bit and screamed at every forceful entry while the idiots laughed in the 1 hr video which i still dont have the courage to watch. Anyhow whether shes ajebutter, pako, rasgirl, angel or whatever is not the issue, anybody who has an iota of love and respect for the women in their lives should know this is most unfair. I just pray shes located before the animals locate and kill her to protect themselves. As for Police, she will be blamed for everything that happened  and suffer more mental torture. Womens groups, help o!

As for those blaming her, dont guys understand that forceful intimate relationships can be mind bending and unforgettable for women? Ask Oprah Winfrey. Bola Ige once said violators deserve to be castrated, its beginning to sound very reasonable!

Thank you jare. One sensible post at least.

jennykadry:
These dudes did not hide their faces from her, one offered to drive her home, the others told her their names and what they do, that's why I was beginning to suspect something def is wrong somewhere.

How do you know this? a lot of yous are quite pros in drawing conclusions. One poster said she was violated in a quiet neighbour-hood and even if she had screamed nobody would have heard her, someone asked him how he came to that conclusion based on the little info posted on the net. Now that she is not under duress, why is she not saying anything?

Jumping into conclusions won't do anything. This girl needs to come out and say something.

I'm really shocked, at your comments obviously you are not a girl, if you are, I wish you are never raped.

I only saw the 10min clip. don't know if she received any phone call. whether or not she received a call, she was under duress. her calmness shouldn't be mistaken for anything else!

pro01:
I watched the video yesterday, and I must say that I am not entirely convinced. It didn't seem as brutal as has been widely sensationalized; seemed more like the girl merely got more than she bargained for. Perhaps the girl in question is some sort of 'ogbologbo' who is not flustered by such things, cos I found her reaction rather too blasé and obliging for a supposedly innocent and 'decent' violation victim. Even while being penetrated she was making all sorts of comments with utmost calm and presence of mind. If she was a typical clean chick who was abducted by a gang of cultists and subjected to the humiliation of a gangrape, she would have been so shattered by the experience that her reaction -during the violation - would have been very different. At one point, in response to one of the boys' frustration at her level of commitment, she protested rather actively: "I'm I not trying". At another point her worry was that it was getting too late, and that her aunty (perhaps she lives with her aunty) would wonder where she had been - at which point one of the boys assured her that he was going to drop her off, that he owns a car. At other times she was merely complaining that she was tired, having 'tried' for long enough, and that they should just let her go. I don't know how many versions of the video exists, but the one I watched lasted about 10 minutes. Perhaps I'm just being naive, but the sterotype of cultists'/armed robbers' violation is that it is usually accompanied with violence of some sort. I didnt see the boys slapping her or beating her to submission, rather they were cajoling her and almost pleading with her to cooperate. They even sounded immature, sometimes fidgety, and downright pathetic, as if they had not had the opportunity to Be Intimate in a long time. I really don't know what to make of it.

Honestly, it could as well be a case of serious gang violation, but it is all very confusing to me. Could it be that she came to sleep with one of the boys, and then the others emerged to 'enter set' (i.e. take turns)? This happens fairly often in Nigerian schools, particularly in off-campus locations. I don't think she was abducted from the streets and forcefully brought to that room. But then this needs to be thoroughly investigated before we can be sure of anything.

I promise you this is not a very smart analogy and I can tell from the looks of it, you are a guy.

I don't care how rotten that girl initially is.
I don't care how many rings she had on her earlobes or wherever else.
The girl was raped!

She cooperated out of fear. Fear of violence from the guys. She endured a very terrible kind of emotional torture.
I'm pretty certain she came there on her own accord probably to even sleep with one of them. That's no reason for them to have forced them selves on her tiny frame like that.

She received the phone call with 'calm', because it's all she could do at that point to:-
1. 'seem to cooperate with the guys and hence expect them to show her mercy'
2. 'to disclose her true whereabouts to the caller after it had dawned on her the ordeal she was about to go through'

Please note she doesn't have to be an "Aje", for the issue to be considered serious. She was violated.
You need to understand rape is primarily about emotional torture not kicks and slaps. I believe you've heard of date rape.

Very sadly, on realizing she was going to be violated like that, she started pleading. Reporting the incident even if she could leave there alive was the last thing on her mind (because of the stereotypical, "its-the-raped-girls-fault", kind of reasoning people normally have). That's why she made a lot pleas about letting her go to her auntie's shop.

Her "am i not trying", comments were pleas not boasts. get that. hoping they would leave her since they'd been telling her to 'cooperate'.

The lady in that video is actually a strong person, that's why it seems almost like normal sex to some with twisted minds.

My Bro you seem like someone I might know. (same age, somewhat similar issues)

At times we have to differentiate between doing something for the love of it and doing something to pay the bills. Unless you have your next move well cut out, bro you wanna stick to what you've got. It's like the movie 'social network'. Mark didn't return to school to complete his degree only because he found something he really believed in for good reasons. However his friend and early financier didn't have the same conviction and took a different path.

Leaving a good paying job these days just to further one's education when you don't plan on stopping at PhD and going into lecturing, or furthering in a seriously top notch university (Havard, Imperial Collg, etc) in a highly south after discipline, is just a game of numbers. And believe me the odds are not really stacked in your favour. But if you insist why not wait enough until you can get a study leave or something, that's still better.

I think life is never fun without taking risks, but you wanna really calculate those risks and minimise the room for error. cheers.

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And I think it is unfortunate that the list does not exclude foolish women that cannot hold a meaningful conversation on any worthwhile topic but it excludes those that don't know bedroom acrobatics.

Don't mind the OP jo. It's a funny list no doubt, but i can never support guys running down gals who are confident and disciplined enough to hold out till marriage. There's nothing wrong with that.

Seriously, how come UBA is still in business? Perhaps a good image, smooth operations and excellent customer service don't really matter in banking?

YES! YES!! YES!!!!!!! ooops, I'm sorry. *clears throat a walks away*

Yeah, the modem and router are in the same subnet. checked that too.

Ok ,

Please find attached.

nateevs:
Sorry I thought you said earlier that you are not natting on the Cisco router.

Yeah, but a few hours ago i implemented NAT, before then pings were just timing out, but after the nat, 'destination net unreachable'

Nope still can't reach out,

Pings to the modem interface from the LAN report:

reply from x.x.x.x : destination net unreachable

x.x.x.x is router's address.

Yeah, actually I'm Natting just as you described, however let me reconfigure my default route like you have described and see,

This is the setup:

the router has two Ethernet interfaces. fa0/0 goes to a switch on the LAN and fa0/1 goes to the modem directly.

Now fa0/0 is on network 10.x.x.x

while fa0/1 is on the same subnet with the modem on network 83.229.x.x right?

So the router is meant to give out IPs in the 10.x.x.x network, which it does nicely. I also set it (the router) as default gateway on the IPs it gives out.


So I have no trouble reaching nodes on the 10.x.x.x network. But packets to the modem interface get dropped. I have this going on for routing:

ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 10.x.x.x
ip 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 83.229.x.x

(don't want to use any routing protocol for now).

Now I can ping the router interface attached to the modem but cant ping the modem interface from a system on the LAN.

But i can ping all interfaces from within the router. I can even traceroute to remote sites on the internet from within the router only!

When I connect to the modem directly, i rely on the DHCP server of the modem for addresses. but from the LAN, its the router that give s addresses.

The Modem is also configured to act as DHCP server, but that's inconsequential, since the router actually doesn't foward broadcasts and is already acting as DHCP. Presently, the router is the DHCP server of the LAN.

Its DHCP. I configured the router as a DHCP server and its giving out addresses as expected

Thanks!

Actually I can reach the internet from the back of my modem very well. It's the configuration on my router that's off. I really dont know what it is specifically.