Agboriotejoye: You can point to the lies there. Science has never said it can prove everything or knows everything. It's you ignorant souls who gave turned to worshipping it that elevate it from a tool to a majestic nature. Yet you insult Christians and other religions
I'm not your science teacher. Go and update yourself. It will help you.
Science cannot prove or know everything, and it never claimed it can.
Religion on the other hand cannot prove anything! You just have to take solace with that fact
Agboriotejoye: I'm sure you've never studied science. If you have, you'll agree there aspects of science that can't be explained or evidence shown for it. A good example is electromagnetic theory. While Maxwell proved that electromagnetic waves can propagate in a vacuum while sound cannot, he never explained why that is so. It remains so till this day. It's a mathematical theory that the waves have both electrical and magnetic properties which can be interlaced. Why that is so no one knows but it's accepted nonetheless. What I'm showing you is if you need evidence for everything then you'll never get anything working. Science has its own mysteries. God works in mysterious ways. Not everything can be proven or explained but that which works must be accepted by its works
You should either stop lying about science or go update yourself.
FlordFlorez: I shouldn't be quoting you cos you lag manner but just wants to educate you. The first creation wasn't man but heaven and earth. You can read the details in Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. Infact, that chapter made us to understand that animals were created even before man.
And chapter two made us to understand that man was created before animals.
omoadeleye: To be candid bro, you are a useless dependent free thinker, you just sit down at one corridor of your room while depressed imagining unnecessarily, you are waiting for someone to fed to you with evidence of what had happened in the days of Jesus Christ and before Jesus Christ, and the holy bible was made as a documented evidence for you to believe, even the where Jesus Christ was buried was still being preserve in Israel, yet you still can't believe all what have been shown to you but you can still be arguing in ignorance because of your useless imaginations and views. Go out there to the field and gather some facts or evidence to prove your point against the bible and Jesus Christ tomb stone in Israel.
You're funny. You know nothing yet you're asking someone to go gather their evidence.
The Jesus tomb stone you are talking about is it not The Garden Tomb situated in Jerusalem? Go and read about it. I doubt you know anything about it.
There's no evidence Jesus ever existed. Both his date of birth celebrated today and place of death visited today are all Fabrications!
You all just believe the Bible on the merit that the men who wrote them were not telling lies. That's believe in fallible men; not in God!
You can imagine believing Reverend King or indabosky are true men of God just on the merit that they said they are true men of God.
Nefort: Humans are NOT the ones that bind objects to the laws of the universe. Humans only created the word "creator" as a reference, but humans did not create the concept of a creator. The concept of a creator is only there because things in the universe has a beginning. Using the word "creator" doesn't mean God is subject to the laws of the universe. When I mention the word MOON while on earth it doesn't mean the moon is part of the earth and subject to the laws on earth. It's just a reference. Therefore it still makes sense for me to use the word "creator" to refer to something not part of the universe. When you ask "what created the creator?" that is when you are actually subjecting God to the laws of the universe.
Your statement above is invalid because a creator who is outside the universe cannot create a universe and become part of the universe while outside the universe.
And how do you know there is no creator since you believe there is no creator? The way you give me reasons for believing there is no creator is also the same way I am giving you reasons that there is a creator.
My theories and explanations are there but you dismiss them. So it's not my fault you dismiss them.
If God and man are existing in the same state then we should be able to see and touch God like we relate with other humans and objects sharing the same state and scope of existence in the universe. But why can't we see or touch God? That is simply because we don't exist in the same state with God. This is the evidence.
If we can use actions like "create" outside the universe, then other human actions like "eat" becomes valid. Of course, God can't exist without food outside the universe. God requires energy to create and how does he get energy if not from "eating" food?
My statement is very valid. Things work differently outside the universe. Hence anything created from outside the universe can as well become part of the creator.
What you have been dishing out as evidences are just evidences begging for evidence! So because you can't see or touch me means we don't exist in the same state? Have you seen God before to know he exists in different state? What is your evidence that God cannot be seen or touched? You're just keep popping up unfounded theories here and there. I'm learning from you Sha...
Nefort: I can use the word "creator" because I am part of the universe and bound to its laws. But it is invalid for me to ask what created the creator because the creator exists outside the laws of the universe where everything must have a beginning (created). God cannot be part of what he created and following its laws because you can't create a robot and be part of the robot. You can't build a house and be part of the structural members of the house like the cement, block and roof.
You cannot use the word "creator"(a human construct) to qualify a being that exist outside that construct else such being becomes bound by the laws of the universe.
@bolded, still using an analogy limited by the laws of universe to describe a being who supposedly isnt bound by these laws. Are you not the one that said things work differently outside the universe?
If that is the case, outside the universe, it might be possible that one can create a robot and be part of the robot!
[s]When it comes to the word "intelligence" it is not invalid to say the creator is intelligent because the creator itself created the intelligence in the universe that we are observing. Only intelligence can create intelligent beings. Chance cannot create intelligence beings if you actually know what it means to be intelligent.[/s]
All theories of "what you know" without "How you know". How did you know there is a creator? How did you know he created intelligence? How did you know chances can't create intelligent beings?
There is no unfounded theories here. It's all reasoning to tell you that God and man doesn't exist in the same state, so you can't question God's existence from the perspective of the state or laws which you exist. When you create a robot it wouldn't exist in the same state with you and the robot shouldn't use the conditions in its own state to describe you.
They are not reasoning. It is only reasoning when you put forth theories and explain how you arrived at them. Else they are just your wishful thought.
How did you know god and man don't exist in the same state? Explain how you know with verifiable evidence.
When you ask what created God it means you are trying to cross the boundary of the scope and laws of your existence into another scope of existence not meant for humans. Your quest will definitely be a dead end which doesn't mean a creator doesn't exist. It simply means you are trying to walk into God's own scope of existence which you shouldn't be.
Lol. Special pleading... Speak for yourself bro. I have crossed no scope of my existence. You started to tell me mumbo jumbo of what happened before the universe and you're not cool with me taken it further than you can.
Nefort: A creator has already been proven. The intelligence behind creation cannot happen by chance. An intelligent force is behind it.
How do you want to use the word Creator and intelligence for something you said exist outside the universe. Isn't all these concepts invented by dwellers of the universe?
If I go by your logic, I will say creation happened by chance. Chance doesn't make sense to you but it makes sense outside the universe before big bang happened.
You're just talking in the nonsense bro... Inventing unfounded theories out of your wishful thought and using them as the basis of your argument.
If you're only interested in telling us the mumbo jumbo of what you know without seeing the importance of telling us how you know, then go and rest.
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Wow! Bro, I'll need your help o. You may need to coach me on how to startup. I have zero idea about the business. Thanks
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What kind of livestock in particular and how lucrative. Really sorry about your condition bro. Wish I can help at the moment. The lockdown is affecting close friends and family and I've been doing my best to help them through this trying time. It hasn't been easy for me too.
ladymarshall: Read page 120 of this thread, that was how me and this amazing dude started o. Who would have thought. Actually that was my ielts writing debut album on this thread Reviewed two more task 2 scripts and by the last script, I knew the examiner go hear am And with @wassynewest class, it must have been a badass combination. @Johnnybravo must have given him some strong magic powder too Anyways, he has been practicing thoroughly for quite a while, and he didn't take the exam for granted!!! He had the success air in him already, we just inflated it with air pump
Tips: Send your writing drafts early on to a good reviewer to look through it. A second eye is always good. Practice thoroughly for a while before you attempt the exam (give yourself a month at least) Do not take the exam for granted, please be humble. The exam is tricky. If you choose to send your draft to me, give me a week or few days at least before I can feed back, (because of work and other projects, I need time for thorough feedback) If you do not have time to send me or anyone your draft (perhaps because of work or a very busy schedule), watch Jay's writing videos, his tips on structure, vocabulary and coherence are amazing. I used his videos for mine, and I am guided by his instructions when I review drafts. I heard Liz videos are also good but I did not use her While focusing on writing, ensure you focus on other modules too so you can max them out to improve your scores.
All the best to you as you write. You will conquer it.
Wow. Thanks a lot. I'm most grateful. I will follow as you have directed. And for the Jay's writing video, is it a YouTube channel?
johnnybravo1990: For me, I coach one-on-one. I have a soft spot for candidates who have attempted IELTS before, because I can imagine the pain they have experienced in not getting their desired scores. For first-timers, I may however find time to assist.
Please, i will need your assistance. Can i send you a pm or...?
jjohndoe83: Gentlemen! The first breakthrough is here
Listening 8.5
Reading 8.5
Writing 8.0
Speaking 8.5
First attempt. I'm so elated right now.
My appreciations to everyone, particularly lady.marshall. Thank you for your time and sacrifice. I'm so glad I could make it worth it. Oga Was.sey, your dedication is uncommon and I benefitted immensely from joining your class. Thanks Johnny.bravo1990 too for the last minute tip.
ladymarshall, Wassey and Johnnybravo1990. Abeg, make una come do for me wetin una do for this guy. I need to smash my IELTS too . Any whatsapp group? Please add me.
AdetonaDami: Bro you better calm down with ECA...go find one more certificate because only Bsc cannot help you in this race. Find a way to add to your degree and read page 1, you need more info. Goodluck
Thanks bro. But then, which other certificate can I add within a year?
Stencil: Check page one, I promise it would help. What degree do you have? As at now, the degree you have determines what evaluation body is recommended. Let us know so we can guide you better.
topacs: I think you should start with ECA first as that can be time consuming... U can write IELTS and get ur result in about 3 weeks or so.. So no need to rush..
OK, thanks a lot. How do I begin with the ECA and does it include SSCE results?