Empiree:
you must be this pic he resembles my little brother when he was baby

The Lord knows who took the picture. That was a nice shot

I am not. I just love the pics ni, the pics looks funny and fits some situations too

Empiree:
MODs didnt restore my post unfortunately. I usually lose interesting retyping deleted post. NL CEO really needs to work on his crazy spambot

Sorry bro. That anti-spam bot is a crazy fellow

^^^^^^

Unfollows thread. I am not in for cyclic argument

tintingz:
Is your religion not all about "God"?

Destroying something intentionally is an insultive act to the owner.

You are grasping straws egbon. One thing about you is that it is hard for you to admit you are wrong. It is not new to me!

Allah is different from Islam. One is the Supreme being, the other is a way of life. Get that into your skull! Islam is not ALL about God. It is about God, relationship with fellow humans, it is about politics, business, transactions and many more!

You are trying hard to change your initial submission to sound brilliant but it is dead on arrival! And please, get yourself a dictionary to ascertain and correspond how insult and destroy tally with each other. I can't help your comprehension problem bros.

Abeg free me

aadoiza:

When you read comments by atheists on here chirping about logic you'd think they know a tad bit about it—alas!—they don't even know the definition of logic, much less how it works, which is what you get when you read with the sole aim of making a nuisance of yourself everywhere.

My brother, the issue with most of these folks is that they don't have foundational knowledge of many of these things they are discussing seriously. They read about it online and think they have arrived. It is a shame that google has given every damn buddy a say on internet.

JeromeBlack:




All your long epistle of words mean nothing.

There was no need to bring up tintingz family. Many atheists come from religious homes. That doesn't mean that everytime they criticise religion, you refer to their family. For all you know, tintingz family could be westernized secular muslims.

Oshey tintingz mouthpiece. Be guessing for him. According to him, his dad is an Imaam and he has "studied" the Quran.
They are criticising the followers of religion too and their families are there too! Charity begins at home.

JeromeBlack:

Furthermore, tintingz was not talking about all muslims when it comes to slavery and incest. Not all muslims defend such like Empiree.

You are speaking against what he said. Empiree doesn't defend incest. In fact, the atheist brother of yours you are defending says he has no problem with incest provided that they don't procreate!! Awo lo!

JeromeBlack:


As for atheists,it is you muslims (and Christians) that force your religions on us. Do you think that atheists living in the north like sharia law? Do you think atheists like it when they are deemed to be terrorists by Saudi Arabian law?

How do they force their religions on you?! They preach, you preach. You insult their beliefs, they don't insult your beliefs.

Sharia law in the north are for muslims only. I remember that there is a news about Kano hisbah police arresting people eating in Ramadan. You guys were quick to respond that they are arresting non-Muslims when in fact, they were arresting muslims!

JeromeBlack:


Just even look at this section, a disgrace to equality. The owner had to create it out of fear of Islamic threats.

That's the owner's problem and not ours! How does this relates to atheism and the discuss?! You need help bro. I am having the feeling that you are that guy with many monikers

sino:


You can just imagine how they became defensive and claiming disrespect because I asked questions, I did not insult anyone or make mockery. People would come online and be forming mr logic and intellect spewing nonsense they dare not say to their folks at home, but you see the excuse, free speech! no need for respect, courtesy or diplomacy, you are just free to talk anyhow and yet they will still claim to have morality...

Brother of mine, the thing tire me wallah. I need to reread your post and see if I missed out where the insult was. Simple question and answer. If you asked that question, I would gladly answer cos I don't have anything to hide.

The internet has made it easy for every Tom, dick and harry to have an opinion on issues that they don't even have foundational knowledge on!! Google is the new scholar, rubbish!

Even a mad man and a young child knows that morality is not what these folks are championing for.

tintingz:
This is not in my premises in this thread but let go on.

Do you even know what painting a scenario means?!

tintingz:
Being deluded is not an insult, it's actually what the person is if he/she demonstrated such.

Deluded means believing something that is not true but what people to believe it's true.

So I don't see any reason my family are excluded from this if they actually demonstrated this.

I never claimed being deluded is an insult. I was simply painting a scenario. @ bold, it is not if they actually demonstrated it. Don't your Muslim family members believe in all what you accused muslims of here?! You have defined the meaning of deluded yourself, don't your family members fit into that definition cos of their beliefs in Allah and Quran?! Be sincere with yourself.

tintingz:
But then the argument here is not about my family, this is a red herring, ad hominem and non-sequitur fallacy.

They are in this too bro. Why? Cos they are muslims too. You are laying your claims on all MUSLIMS remember?! It is not ad hominem cos nobody has insulted them except if you do indirectly from your posts! It is funny that you get enraged when your family is mentioned (not for abuse, we respect these noble people). But you mock and ridicule what people hold in high esteem than family! Our creator! What type of fallacy is that?!

tintingz:
Yes of course they can engage in it since it is a dogma.

Really?! SubhanAllah! So you actually believe that your family members can beat their wives, trade slaves, engage in paedophilia cos it is normal for them and it is a dogma?! Enire lo!!

Then, from this argument of yours, we can deduct that you can also engage in homosexuality since it is normal to you! And sino was asking you if you can engage in homosexuality, you are screaming "I am not gay". But here you are, saying your blessed Muslim family members can beat their wives. SubhanAllah!

tintingz:
My argument is actually about Islamic dogmatism.
Every Muslim believe in the Quran which is divine and the absolute law to them, so where am I wrong here.

You are wrong when you start with "EVERY MUSLIM" and you didn't mention Islam dogmatism initially. You started with muslims doing this, muslims going that. Muslims, Quran and Islam aren't the same thing!

Yes, Quran is divine and absolute but muslims' understanding of it is not. Because some muslims still have some weird interpretations of Quran doesn't mean that's what the Quran or Islam means.

tintingz:
If they aren't following it, at least they would be cool with it. Every damn believe and practice in the Qur'an is normal to Muslims, whether they practice it or not it's still normal to them.

Slave trading isn't normal to muslims!
Wife beating isn't normal to muslims!
Paedophilia isn't normal to muslims!
Same muslims aren't cool with wife beating!
Sane muslims don't trade slaves. In fact, Islam is the religion that abolish slave trade and even make it a religious act for freeing slaves!

tintingz:
But Allah still command Muslim men to beat their wives in the Qur'an. It's a dogma that can used to justify this action.

You don't understand what you are quoting. It would be a waste of time trying to explain to you. I have been there before. You guys just jumped the precautions that preceded the so-called "beating" and cling on to that.

The person whom the Quran was revealed NEVER beat his wives. In fact, Allah claimed that he had the best of examples for muslims (Surah Al Qalam and Surah Al Ahzaab). He left his home cos of some behaviour displayed by his wives! Peace and blessings be upon my beloved.

tintingz:
Let me make things clear to you.

Atheism is the lack in beliefs in God while theist is the believe in God, two positions against each other, since theists go about saying God exist, atheists then demand proof of this God that exist reason we have philosophical arguments in religion section.

So it's not about atheists arguing on what that doesn't exist, it simply asking for the proof of God theists claim he exist. Simple.

Are you ready to accept proofs?! AlBaqir posted a video (an interesting debate) on how Hamzah Andreas Tzortiz explained logically the existence of God. The guy destroyed your atheist president. I expected the president to refute his logical argument with sound argument, but he just moved on! I expect you as a foot solider to refute his argument in that video, yet you ignored it and focus on another thing. Formulae dodge e

tintingz:

Religions are public matters, anything that as to do with public is open for criticism, some criticism may intentionally be insulting while some is not intentionally but appear insulting and mocking but whatever it is, to criticize has to go down many roads, mocking, insulting etc as regard free speech.

Have you heard of constructive criticism and destructive criticism before? You guys do the latter. Thank goodness, you admit that it is free speech. At least, nobody is pointing a gun at you to type all what you type, I hope you would be able to defend all the "free speeches" in front of your creator one day!

Yes, religions are public matter and they aren't free from being criticised. But when people are engrossed with the criticism, it is something else. It shows there's something that's disturbing you in your heart about God and the reason for the obsession. Deep down inside you, you know something isn't right but you are trying to kill it by arguing and arguing.

tintingz:


In the Qur'an we read Allah calling disbelievers loosers, fools, damned, hell dwellers and degrading their Gods and beliefs, we also read Muhammad cursing the disbelievers in the Hadiths.

Muhammad even entered the Kaaba shrine and destroyed the Gods of the people, what do you call that?

You are shifting goalpost uncle. You said "Your religion" in your initial submission. I pointed out that our religion doesn't teach us to insult people's beliefs. You changed to Allah! Is Allah and your religion the same?!

Is insult not different from destroy?! Do you need basic comprehension class ni?!

tintingz:
Lies!

Your religion does not teaches you to respect others believes and religion, in fact the whole concept of the Quran is insulting, mocking and killing other believes/believers.

@ Bold, I think it is through your layman "study" of the Quran you come to that conclusion of yours?!

I thought you are once a Muslim and in your words "I have studied Islam, my dad is an Imaan. Know where I am coming from" , yet you are making the above wrong claims with boldness.

Surah Al-Anaam, Verse 108:
وَلَا تَسُبُّوا الَّذِينَ يَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ فَيَسُبُّوا اللَّهَ عَدْوًا بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ
And INSULT NOT those whom they (disbelievers) worship besides Allah, lest they insult Allah wrongfully without knowledge..........

Ignorance is bliss!!!

JeromeBlack:




My guy, please be honest with yourself. There was no need to bring up his family. You talk about respect and yet you lack the manners that would prevent you from crossing the line to talk about someone's family.

You guys don't get and understand the logic Tintingz is proposing. Lemme break it down for you.

Scenario 1
Proposition 1 (according to tintingz): MUSLIMS are deluded.
Propostion 2: Tintingz's family are MUSLIMS.

From the above propositions, we can deduce logically that tintingz's family are deluded cos according to tintingz himself, ALL muslims are deluded (including myself and my family).

Scenario 2
Proposition 1 (according to tintingz): MUSLIMS consider wife beating, slave trading et al as NORMAL.
Proposition 2: tintingz has muslims in his family.
Analogical logical deduction: Muslims from tintingz family would have engaged in such acts he accused all muslims of since those acts are NORMAL in the Muslim world!

Before you come online and make silly and haste generalisation, consider the effects that come with it. People who live in glass houses don't throw stones!

Is logic hard for you guys? If something is normal in the Muslim world, then bulk (if not all) of muslims should be following and implentimg those things that are considered as norms! If they aren't following it, at least they would be cool with it.

The wife beating matter, the Prophet who got revelation from his Lord NEVER beat any of his wives. We didn't read such in the caliphs and our Imaams lives! Even in the contemporary world of muslim scholars, I haven't seen anyone who beats his wife and justify it with the Quran! Since we have run out of examples, maybe he (tintingz) can help us out with examples of close Muslim relatives of his would have engaged in such norms that he accused the entire Muslim world of! At least, charity begins at home!

Funny thing is that the people who beat their wives don't know about the Quran and those who know and understand the ayah don't beat their wives!

JeromeBlack:
Secondly, there are numerous comments of yours that are insulting atheists. You say you respect beliefs, yet you mock atheists.

Even within your religion, I have seen how your fellow muslims insult pagan and atheists.

Mock atheists?! Insulting beliefs is different from insulting personalities. I do agree that arguments can get rowdy and people through jibes at one another. But, do atheists have a set of beliefs?! So which beliefs of the atheists are muslims mocking?!

We are here in Islam section, enjoying and discussing about our deen. An atheist comes in and starts to mock and ridicule what he doesn't believe in! Does that makes sense to you?! For example, I don't believe in leprechaun, Santa Claus or FSM, then I open a thread and invite my Muslim brothers. Then we begin to argue and debunk the beliefs of FSM, saying Santa Claus is a sadist, he is bigot and other unprintable words you guys have used on God! But we don't even believe Santa Claus nor leprechaun exist, this is a belief we don't hold! Is that not stupidity?! Why would we arguing something that doesn't exist and we don't believe in?!

Atheists don't believe in God, but most of you guys spend hours and days trying to debunk, ridicule and mock something you don't believe to exist! What do we call that? How do you guys sound to yourself?

You wanna discuss, you discuss. If you wanna mock and ridicule people's beliefs, then don't expect a pat on your back.

Empiree:
Deep. I can agree with this actually. It means khidr could actually mean a giant leader of Ruhaniyun. As much as I thought to myself to achieve some levels of higher spirituality, it pains when when I realize my limit. Sometimes it looks like those correct baba were not humans. Their level of worship/devotion with their limited knowledge was gold.

Do you know there are muslims who don't even believe in the concept of awliyah meeting with Hazrat Khidr?.

I think I am of those muslims . To me, Khidr was more of a saint than a prophet. But this head of ruhaniyyun sounds new entirely.

Empiree:
Chai, this rank na superb. Many don't believe this but I have heard from confirmed shuyukh in Nigeria and outside Nigeria that it happened. Famous Sheikh we all know with regards to this was Amir Awliya Hazrat sheikh Muhammad Jamiu Buuuuulala.

But bcus of misconceptions today our scholars in line of tassawuf downplayed it. I once listened to a sheik from USA. He was explaining many things around tassawuf. It was in form of question and answer. I forgot the name of this Sheikh. He's originally from India/Pakistan region and a Deobandi group. When asked about a sheik transporting himself to Mecca for salat, he simply downplayed it saying "be careful of these fake shuyukh who made path with shaytan" . He then smiled.

I personally don't believe all these teleporting or transporting of a sheikh from Nigeria Masjid Haram. Firstly, what medium did the acclaimed sheikh use to transport himself? Wind?! Jinn?! Or what?! Secondly, to what end and purpose will that serve?

Being deeply involved in tawassuf should have direction faah, or else person go ko eran mero

Rilwayne001:


Hello, I have the test tomorrow, how can I get the PQ please?

Lemme forward one to you bro

Tessyy1701:
Jazakumullahu Khaeran to the giver. I pray to join You next year...

All concern brothers should have seen the alert by now.

Let come here to say it and say a word of prayer for bro Empiree.
Jazakumullahu Khaeran once again

Jazakumullah khairan Rhode scholar . May Allah reward you with goodness.

And barakallahu feekum Bro Teslim, may Allah strengthen our brotherhood.

tintingz:
SMH.

It's said they died of illness or so, but the cause or nature of death are not recorded probably due to ignorance at that time or no investigations were done or it's common at that time or it was kept secret. Whatever it's they died mysteriously, the fact that I used "mysterious" and "actually" you should grasp the context of what I'm saying.

Kindly connect the context of my posts, you don't have to sound ridiculous.

Illness itself sometimes is a pointer and cause of death. You said they died due to illness and yet said the cause of death is not known! Is illness not a cause of death?! You should have said the cause of illness wasn't known. That's acceptable, instead of taking it personal.

tintingz:
I read Khadija the first wife of Muhammad is somehow related to Muhammad. Any take on that?

And his children died of mysterious illness.

tintingz:
It is here

I guess there were no records of what actually killed Muhammad children.

Why are two bold statements seem to be in contradiction? You claimed the Prophet's kids died mysteriously in the first sentence. Then, you turned around and said "There were no records of what actually killed the Prophet's children".

The question is, if there were no sources that claimed to explain the deaths of the beloved kids of the Nabi, how did you come to the conclusion of your first statement of "They died mysterious deaths? " Boda Taiwo

true2god:
Thanks for offering your support for 'empire'. He had been doing a great job lying for Allah and his messenger. Maybe you will be a little bit truthful.

The problem is that you think you know about Islam, whereas you are just stark ignorant. Lemme entertain your folly and enlighten you one more time.

true2god:
You compare the Hafs and the warsh Quran as dialectic variants of the Quran, are you these serious or ignorant? The scholars never called it 'dialectic variant' but 'different readings of the Quran'. Have you taken time to look at the screenshots or do you follow empire's style of 'argue without analysing evidence'? What I had expected you to do is to pick up the screenshot I provided, pick the ayah one after the other and explain the reasons for the contradiction. What you however did was to 'school: me on variants in Yoruba dialects which you attempted to you as a standard to explain the apparent inconsistencies in various Quranic readings. This is strawman bro. You started aggressively but showed a lot of intellectual weakness.

I have looked at all your screenshots. They are laughable man. You failed to grab the examples I cited, I can't help you. Your problem is that you don't know but think you know and that's highest level of delusion. Firstly, there are certainly differences in reciting the Quran in Warsh, Hafs, Qaloon, et al but the meaning still REMAIN the same throughout these variants of reading.

The error you are committing is that you are doing layman translation of the styles of the Quran and that's where you are seeing your contractions. Lemme cite another example for you, perhaps your brain would comprehend this.
For example, if Ondo people were to ask for a book, they would say "Iwe na saa?" Ikare people would say "Iwe na Hanan? " Normal Oyo yourba is "Iwe na da? " which all translate to "Where is the book?" This is for someone who has knowledge of ALL THESE DIALECTS OF YORUBA.

But for someone who is used to Oyo Yoruba ONLY and has no knowledge of other dialects would fault Ondo Yoruba of "Iwe na saa". Because as a Yoruba man from Oyo, if I were to understand and translate the saying of "Iwe na saa", I would understand and translate to "The book is running!" and would make a whole mess of the whole stuff!

Also, Ikare people would say "Mofe lo hun" which means "I want to sleep (in their dialect)". But for someone who doesn't understand their dialect of Yoruba when making a direct layman translation of that would say it means "I want to weave!" Hun is weave in Oyo dialect of Yoruba. Bottomline is that, making a direct translation of dialect you have NO knowledge about would be calamitous.

Take that to Warsh and Hafs, some words are written differently in both styles but the meaning are the same. Where Hafs says "يعملون" which means "THEY are doing", Warsh would say "تعملون" which when translated by layman who has knowledge about ONE dialect of Arabic language would translate to "YOU are doing".

But people who are reciting Warsh do not mean "You are doing" when they are reciting their own style, they perfectly know it means "They are doing". But a layman like you who has zero knowledge of their dialect would say it is a contradiction and would translate it to "They are doing".

The same way a man with knowledge on ONE dialect of yourba (say Oyo yourba) would translate and understand "Mofe lo hun (of Ikare dialect)" to "I want to weave". But, is that what Ikare people meant when they say those words?! Absolutely NO!!!


Please, think and use your brain. Stop displaying your ignorance on a public forum.

true2god:
I have watched various videos, by Arab-muslims speakers (one of them a Lebanese Muslim) who also pointed out this differences but you are here telling me that 'it is dialectic issue:. Stop being ignorant bro, a simple YouTube video will clear your doubt and we have hundreds that addressed this issue. Stop making a fool of yourself.

You are committing a fallacy, you are just appealing to authority. Nobody denied that there aren't differences in the recitations and spellings, what we are telling you is that these differences of recitations and spellings NEVER connote different meanings. Get that into your skull!

Tessyy1701:
I don't know how I missed His name been the first person to send His details

The same way anti-spam bot missed my answers despite the fact that I was the first to submit. . Life can be funny sometimes

Rilwayne001:
Me I don collect airtime convert am to cash since money.

I don see Eid money and campaign money too

Just to tell you guy, you are a sly. and I go jeju e one day one day. Kobet it

Tessyy1701:

Yes

true2god:
You have schooled me on Hafs and warsh, seriously? You are a clown bro, a mosque clown for that matter. Even your fellow Muslims reading this thread cannot comment because they are embarrassed and you said you have 'schooled' me when you admitted you never even looked at the Haf-warsh screenshots I sent you. It seems you live in a fantasy world oblivious of reality.

I just have to address this. Your ignorance is pathetic. I personally felt reluctant to comment before but this display of ignorance and tomfoolery is getting out of hand. In this 21st century, if someone can be arguing that Hafs and Warsh styles of reading connote contradictions of the Quran, then such a person shouldn't be taken seriously.

It is akin to saying Oyo dialect of yourba and Ikare dialect of yourba are contradictions because pronunciation of words are different. That's plain stupidity of the highest peak. A word can be pronounced differently in various dialects of a language and they point to the same meaning. Please, this is an open forum, stop displaying your ignorance.
Read and learn.


S/N| Yoruba Oyo| Yoruba Ikale |Yoruba Ijesa| Yoruba Ondo| Yoruba Ekiti |Meanings in English
I |wa |bọ |be |karioran |bọ |be |Ia |Come
II |Isu |usu |Usu |Usu |usu |Yam
III |ile |ule |Ule |uli |ule |House
IV |ọmọ wa |ọmọ wa |ọmọria |ọmọ wa| ọmọ ra |Our child
V |Isalẹ |ẹri odo |Omi odo |Down/River
VI| Ijoko |otita |ujoko |akaaba |otita |Seat
VII| ewure I|kegbe |Ehevegbe |Ikegbe |ehure |Goat
VIII |adiyẹ |ẹdiye |ẹdiyẹ |adie |ẹdiẹ |Fowl
IX |ilẹkun |Ilẹkun| agandii| ilekun| aganrandi| Door


This is the same thing between Hafs, Warsh, Qaloon and other styles of reciting the Quran. Some words are pronounced differently but they NEVER signify new meanings. You are just making a mountain out of a hole. Grow up man.

true2god:
If you are educated, you will agree with me that most modern debates and interviews are conducted via Skype and at least you will also have the opportunity to see my handsome face. I have watched many Christian-muslim debates that are conducted via Skype, both for cost, distance and security reasons. Start thinking like a 21st century man bro! I told you I asked Ustaz Adepoju for a debate but he refused and told me 'I only do open air lectures', meaning thrashing Christianity without being challenged on his Islamic beliefs.

I still stand by my words and will happily provide my contact if you can arrange a debate between us.

Umar ibn kathab was also instrumental in some Quranic revelations, I need you to comment on their sir? I also responded to your claim on Quran 66:1, you can do me a big favour touching on that one too. Don't deflect!

Asalama lekum!

@ Bold, people who are handsome don't go about bragging about it on public forum. Only folks with insecurity would be bragging about handsomeness that isn't there.

All these bragging self, you challenged Ustadh Yusuf Adepoju to a debate?! Bring proof, no proof. Your student asked him questions he can't answer, bring proof? No proof!
Only empty barrels make noise, empty korodom. With this reasoning of yours, you aren't even in the calibre of those people who can stand up to debate a person like Yusuf Adepoju.

You that you are unstable like NEPA light for rainy season on online wanna go offline debate?!

Baba goan sleep jare. Empiree stop wasting your time biko

FriendNG:


How is it impossible when Mali have seen the moon on Sunday and observe the eid on Monday.

But I also learnt that places like Australia are still facing today??

Tessyy1701:
Bro Lanre have sent His details to My email.
My brother name is Subair and He is answering Lanrexlan here!

Let Me sha come n be going before I started calling the name with Yoruba intonation

This is one of the stigmatization that made me kept my Muslim name "private" throughout my primary school and some years during my secondary school.

People were just spoiling my name upandan and I used to feel bad . Naso, I just opted for Lanre throughout my days in primary school and most of my years in secondary school. The story changed when I entered the University. Only few call me Lanre now except at home.

AlBaqir:


Akhee al-azeez, I know how you feel. You are hurt. If it is me, I will also especially when you are misunderstood.

On the other hand, other brothers were hurt too.

On both sides, it was due to misinterpretation or misunderstanding of the message.

Who are we that cannot be misunderstood? Quran and authentic hadith of Rasul al-Akram is being greatly misunderstood.

Alhamdulillah at the end of lanrexlan comment up there, he showed the rage has been quenched. And other brothers have come to terms.


Please brothers don't give shaitan any chance of victory at all. What the devil do best is to sow discord among brothers.

Please let it go. And let's stay with the plan.

Wallah, I felt bad about this and while reading this on my transit back home, I felt like crying wallah. It seems I am the architect that is sowing the seeds of discord and mistrust amongst brothers. It is just a pure misunderstanding.


Akhee, personally, I would prefer Tessyy1701 account to be used but if other brothers agree with your plan, then I agree with it too. And if we are going with your plan, Tessyy1701 is getting my prize on my behalf and he would send to me afterwards. I would bear all the charges. Just to let him know that I trust him and it is just misinterpretation of my post.

Jazakumullah khairan

Empiree, we are using Tessyy1701 account details in sha Allah. We really appreciate yours and AlBaqir's efforts and contributions. Jazakumullah khairan akhee.

Tessyy1701 would message you personally in Sha Allah

Brothers, please kindly forward your account details to Tessy1701, he is collating it and receiving on our behalf. I am sending mine to him now.



I am deeply sorry for all the brouhaha. Apologies, kindly forgive me. I NEVER meant it in the way many thought. Please forgive me.

Jazakumullah khairan

Aadozia can message Empiree since he is not interested in cash. Thanks

AlBaqir:
Brothers Rilwayne001, Ladunal, Lanrexlan, Tessyy1701

I discussed with Empiree off NL, gave an offer and he said it's yours to accept or reject that I should discuss it with you guys. Here's it:

I will forward an account to Empiree and he will remit the money into it. The account belongs to my friend who works at sterling Bank, Osogbo.

Once he received the alert, he will inform me. Then all of you will use your NL attached email to send me your phone numbers and account numbers. Once confirmed it's you, you will in sha Allah be credited.

The offer is yours.

SubhanAllah!! Wallah I really appreciate this akhee, but on behalf of everyone who participated, we would reject this. Wallah, I am damn serious with it. I am deeply sorry if it seems I have sown discord and mistrust admist brothers, I am sorry for this wallah. I NEVER meant it that way, I was just airing out my view innocently and things flared up within minutes.

It seems brothers misconstrued me and think I have trust issues with them. Wallah, it is far from that. I am just trying to apply some principles of Usul Hadith. If two companions brought two closely related which seem to contradict one another, and both companions are trustworthy, another criteria would be used to give preference to one hadith over the other. It might be years spent with the Rasul or any other criteria.

Ladunal finally got my point here.

LadunaI:
On further thought I said bro Tessy seems to be somehow new in the forum and not many might know him, but I said to myself.who seems to.have been on nairaland before anyone here. Then I realised you're the one and I said if people raise objection about bro Tessy then I will suggest you be the one in charge. You have been here before must of us and that's is fine. This is doesn't mean that others can't do it but we want somebody with more experience here which is fine. Albaqir you suggested seems more than qualify, and I believe he'd have been acceptable to many here provided he will be dispose to do that for us. I dont think no any one in this Islamic forum that wouldn't have come across Albaqir posts before just like empiree. They are very active here. Thanks

So it is not about not trusting my brother, Tessy1701, I love you for the sake of Allah akhee and I trust you and everyone who participated.

I am sorry if I have applied the principle naively, kindly forgive and pardon my tomfoolery.


Peace

Tessyy1701:


As it stand I will prefer it to be sent to Your account and You must sent my own first before I changed My mind that I don't want again

Haha,

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Tessyy1701:


It's enough Mr Lanre....

@sheik empiree just give Us airtime

Nah, go with Ladunal stance. Barakallahu feekum

Tessyy1701:

After the word "it might be million to some people" you can see the emoji I used + the abbreviation LOL.

And secondly I didn't take it personal

And the sentence " (I don't want stories that touch, make someone no receive over 100k finish, then boom, deactivate account. This is Naija )", Isn't there an emoji there before you thought I was referring to you?! I was only kidding with that and it seems you didn't get the joke in the first place and you and Ladunal thought I was throwing shades, whereas I am not throwing any shades at anyone. May Allah rectify us.

Alhamudulilah, we are cool bro. I have nothing against sending the money to your account, I am just saying using a third party account (a mod or another person) will make it more open to all.

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