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Islam for Muslims / Re: ...... by lanrexlan(m): 6:21am On May 21, 2018 |
Empiree:Present. Thanks for the beep on Whatsapp bro. 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 12:26am On Nov 09, 2017 |
sino:Akhee, leave matter for matthias jare. No sister would prefer six packs to a 6 digits monthly salary or six cars except she is the daughter of a body builder. So lemme hit the books and hit the ideas that would be bring money 2 Likes |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 12:25am On Nov 09, 2017 |
AlBaqir:Wallah, I really get the aspect you are driving from, our souls aren't at the same level and same is our urges and control over lower desires. You are most welcome dear akhee. Allahumo ameen. I pray the same for you too Wa alaykum Salaam Warahmatulah Wabarokatuh |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 12:25am On Nov 09, 2017 |
Empiree: Stop joor, disaya is used for physical attributes (a woman's chest) and not the same with desire. Or am I missing something?? |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 12:25am On Nov 09, 2017 |
sino:Castration is indeed an extreme case but it begs the question akhee, for how long was these sahabahs away from their wives that they were thinking about castrating themselves? Truth be told, one loves intimacy a lot, I think a or 2 weeks expedition shouldn't make any man think of castrating himself. Castration has NO cure faah. Secondly, if mut'ah is for necessity like eating swine and alcohol, these two things are still necessities when the need arises but mut'ah isn't anymore? sino:Yes, no sunni argues this. sino:Scared ke? Do you know the meaning of my name, Zubayr? It means courageous. "Lako mo wa ni ibon" sino:This is a wild guess unless you can provide evidences for it. There is no record of mut'ah during pre Islamic period that I know of. sino:His ghost sino:Maybe and maybe not. sino:Reality and books can be in contradictions many times. Suicide bombers and the Qu'ran are in contradictions, what people see is not what is stated in the Qur'an. Same can be said with polygamy to some extent. sino:In all narrations, the Nabi NEVER made mut'ah a form of profession, because people have turned it into a profession doesn't make it right. sino:Wallah, very disturbing but yet it is not a yardstick to judge the prescription in the books. The above has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the deen of Islam. You don't turn a necessity to a business making venture. sino:The Qur'an even exposed their perversion when they broke the law of 'no sex' during the nights of Ramadan. But their perversion is outta this world ooo So mut'ah is only for Arabs?! sino:See logic! This analysis of yours made sense, and I have no reply. sino:Ameen, most welcome. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 12:01am On Nov 08, 2017 |
AlBaqir: AlBaqir:Case closed if she is aware of it, then in that case, she can't feel cheated. AlBaqir:Exactly. A woman who is aware of the permissibility of her husband to marry more than one should be prepared that he may marry at any time. Same with a shi'i woman as regards, grumbling won't stop that. AlBaqir:True AlBaqir:And Allah is Knower of what is in the breasts of men. AlBaqir:May Allah bless you for the bold. And Ramadan was ONLY for a month o. Allah Mustaan AlBaqir:You are right, it has no respect for anyone. I was telling a brother that it is not about "I am an Hafiz of the Qu'ran" when you are alone with a lady. All those of the Quran would fly away from your head (even the verses of Zina) EXCEPT if Allah has bestowed His mercy upon you. May Allah safeguard our Imaan and make us not to be slaves to our lower desires (Aamen) |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 12:00am On Nov 08, 2017 |
sino:No need dragging this over and over. It is not about doubting the narrations, you and Baqir have tackled the hadith traced to Ali and I don't wanna start the saga again. @bold, if sex isn't life threatening, then how is it a necessity in the first instance? If those sahabahs didn't had sex then, will they die ni? sino:Ruhaniyyah can't travel to the other world sino:Understood sino:What you are insinuating is that the Prophet has taught them about mut'ah before and that's why they didn't ask questions?? sino:They didn't challenge because they were probably 'afraid' of him sino:No problem o, we will going in circles ni. sino:"Understood" sino:Nobody even made mentioned of mut'ah at home, Baqir even said it is haram! sino:Understood sino:Irrelevant? Really akhee? If the expedition was three days, do you think the Prophet would legislate mut'ah? The permission should have something to do with the duration. Why will a man want to castrate himself because he missed his wife just 6days or 7days or even 2 weeks? Is sex food for him ni? sino:Thanks for your replies and time akhee. Jazakumullah khairan |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 12:00am On Nov 08, 2017 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 12:06am On Nov 07, 2017 |
AlBaqir:Thanks for the statistics. Really appreciate. AlBaqir:Naam AlBaqir:He may not need her permission, but she would be certainly aware that her husband is taking a new wife even if it is at the last minute. Will the wife aware as regards mut'ah? AlBaqir:But how will we know the truthful ones from the insincere ones? Almost impossible, the same way we can't know the man who is sincere with polygamy or not. I hope you get the drift. AlBaqir:Thanks for replies. Really appreciate your time. |
Jokes Etc / Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by lanrexlan(m): 12:06am On Nov 07, 2017 |
Empiree:You even remember food?! No food, no tea nothing. Just put on a T shirt and a knicker, then off I go 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 12:05am On Nov 07, 2017 |
Empiree:I am not muscular enough to be digging grave You remind of the Winchester boys (Supernatural Series). This is one of the works, digging graves and burning bodies to stop ghosts and vengeful spirits. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 12:05am On Nov 07, 2017 |
Empiree:Yes, it can become Zina by the situations, circumstances and the people who practised it during or after the demise of the Nabi. So comparison with alcohol or pork is out of it |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 12:05am On Nov 07, 2017 |
sino:You are still not getting the point. I quite agreed that the reason for its permissions were peculiar. But ask you akhee, weren't there tons of wars and expeditions after the demise of the Nabi? When the needs (wars and expeditions) arose again then, is it permissible to perform mut'ah? sino:I need Angel Castiel to teleport me to the time and age of Ibn Abass in the desert of Arabia. sino:"Give them something", it sounds like the example you brought as regards Arabs engaging in sex for money. The companions understood what to do because they have been doing it before and the Prophet just authenticated it for them? If it is not a new legislation, then what is it? sino:That has always been the bone of contention for ages between Shi'as and Sunnis i.e. Did Mut'ah continue after the demise of the Nabi? sino:Akhee, I am afraid this comparison isn't the same. The implication of what you are saying is that the Nabi legislated the "having sex for a token" which the Arabs were already engaged in by commanding mut'ah! That is the meaning of the analogy! sino:Wine was already widespread among the Arabs. They were drunkards among them before the 'advent' of Islam. Allah NEVER made alcohol permissible for them, they were already in the mess. In order not to make them 'run away' from Islam at the start, that's why the prohibition was in stages. Mut'ah isn't the same with that. No record of any one performing mut'ah before the the first legislation. Moreover, mut'ah wasn't prohibited in stages. I see NO correlation whatsoever between alcohol prohibition and the acclaimed mut'ah prohibition! sino:What about before the prophet prohibited it? So in essence, Zina was made lawful before the Nabi forbade it? sino:Do you know the implication of what you wrote?! It means the Nabi was impartial for legislating mut'ah during those occasions as narrated in the Ahadith! I only inferred from your submission akhee unless you are referring to those practising mut'ah without at home without any just cause to justify it. Is polygamy impartial?! sino:I never argued this. Expeditions are periodic, so was the legislation of mut'ah during the lifetime of the Nabi. I am curious, what was the longest duration of those expeditions and wars in which mut'ah was made permissible? sino:Alhamudulilah |
Jokes Etc / Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by lanrexlan(m): 11:12pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
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Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 11:07pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Empiree:Don't mind those robots, always attacking the messenger and not the message. Products of blind followership. @bold, it is 'imisi' from awon Ruhaniyahs 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 11:06pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
sino:The opinion of Ibn Abbas here is that mutah is only to be performed in situations that are similar to the situations in which mutah was first made permissible. Will you agree with this stance of Ibn Abass? And the pork argument doesn't fly akhee. But how would they be unaware of the prohibition if mut'ah was prohibited at the battle of Khaybar?! Where many Muslims participated?! sino:"Possibly", well let us agree on the first sentence. Secondly, if these conditions weren't stated in the Qur'an, on what conditions did the Prophet permitted the companions to engage in it? Or the command was just that "Go and perform mut'ah and give the woman her mahr". Without the waliy of the lady, without an witness? @the bold is also my fear. People will certainly hide behind it and abuse it but many things have been abused in our society today, even polygamy isn't spared. sino:Drinking of wine was widespread among the Arabs even before the advent of the Prophethood of Muhammed (Peace upon him and his household) and they were cases of Sahaabahs who were drinking. So that's why Allah made the prohibitions in stages. Allah NEVER gave anyone the permission to drink to wine (except for necessity) rather wine consumption was one of the vices rampant among Arabs then. So I am afraid mut'ah doesn't fit in cos it seems to be a 'new legislation' which was allowed at least on two occasions. sino:So if it is a sin, what's the huddud for it? What should be the punishment imposed on a man found practising mut'ah? Is it the punishment doted out to fornicators and fornicatresses?! Lesser or multiplied?! I would love to see evidences. sino:So what you are saying in essence is that the main purpose of mut'ah was to serve the sexual urges of men of war on expedition. But akhee, there were tons of wars and expeditions after the demise of the Nabi. So how would you expect soldiers and men on expeditions at that time to fulfill their sexual urges? Don't you think it's impartial? sino:Wa alaykum Salaam Warahmatulah Wabarokatuh dearest akhee, Alhamudulilah I have been fine by Allah's mercy. How are you and your beloved family? May Allah's mercy always abide with you (Aamen) |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 11:05pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
AlBaqir:I understand your point of view but it is indeed saddening that nowadays to see residents with capacity to marry engaging in it. They see mut'ah as an avenue to have intimacy with just a payment and since many aren't ready to father a baby, they go for this 'cheap escape', i.e. sex and just pay. AlBaqir:@bold, that is why baba 70 also want to marry omoge 23years, baba wants to 'renew' blood You are right to some extent but on the aspect of women being able to control their sexual desires more, I don't quit agree unless you can back it up proofs. If I am not wrong, I think masturbation is more rampant among the female folks (Though I wish I could find stats for this). AlBaqir:Saheeh, except some crazy countries. AlBaqir:Agreed. AlBaqir:So will the woman (the wife) be rewarded for her patience while Ògá adé is busy playing 'away match'?? Secondly, will the wife be aware that Ògá adé is 'lamoshuaging' another woman outside? Will she be carried along as regards the mut'ah marriage? If not, then I don't think this comparison with polygamy is 100% in line with mut'ah AlBaqir:I think if the wife of soldiers and sailors can endure the sexual urge emanated from missing their spouses, why shouldn't the husband also ready to make the same sacrifice since it is just for a short period?! For the sake of Allah and the sake of love! AlBaqir:Now in this case, who will she contract mut'ah with?! A married man or an unmarried man?! Sincerely, her case will just turn to a sugarmumsy case faah. Thanks for your reply |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 9:23pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
Kaytixy:Have you ever made any contribution that is meaningful on this thread?! 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Declare Them Adulterers So That You Can Rest In Peace by lanrexlan(m): 9:16pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
6 pages and yet no conclusion?! The thread has been derailed already. @sino, few questions for you. 1) All those sahaabahs who performed mut'ah during the lifetime of the Nabi, after his demise and some tabi'een were they wrong or ignorant of the hadith of the Prophet prohibiting it? 2) You said mut'ah is only a necessity for those soldiers during war or an expedition but there is an hadith that says some companions said WE WERE YOUNG........... .If mut'ah was meant for married men who have no access to their spouses, what about unmarried young men? Why did the Nabi recommend mut'ah for them? Why not fasting? 3) If mut'ah is akin to eating pork, we know unlawful becomes lawful at the time of necessity and a person is ONLY ALLOWED to take what will cure/satisfy his hunger at that time WITHOUT taking extra along. If mut'ah is similar to eating of pork, is a person who practised mut'ah only allowed to have intimacy that would his sexual urges? Like 1minute or how would we measure that? 4) You said that the mut'ah during the time of the Prophet wasn't a sin but the mut'ah today is a sin. Does that include all those mut'ah marriages practised by the companions and tabe'een after the death of the Nabi? If it was to be sin, is it major sin or minor sin? 5) You said that sino: The evidences being put forward that the verse is about mut'ah is not traced to the Prophet (SAW) Do you think the Nabi would legislate something like nikkah (whether temporary or permanent) without a verse to back it up?? Now to AlBaqir, these are your questions. 1) Do you think we need Mut'ah in this age and time? The money one would used in contracting mut'ah, why can't the person use it in contracting the permanent nikkah? 2) Females who are married have sexual urges too when their husbands aren't at home. How do you expect them to fulfill their urges lawfully? Count ceilings? 3) Do you think we still have the conditions that warrant mut'ah now? Thanks to you both in advance for answering the questions. No questions for Empiree, he doesn't believe in both mut'ah and misyar. Baba is just here for academic purposes and to 'oversee' the affairs. 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Happy Eid-el-mubarak by lanrexlan(m): 7:00pm On Sep 02, 2017 |
Rilwayne001:Eid Mubarak baba nla. May Allah accept our ibadah 2 Likes |
Islam for Muslims / Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by lanrexlan(m): 4:08pm On Aug 12, 2017 |
tintingz:Nooo, would check those out though. Thanks. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by lanrexlan(m): 11:08pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
AhluSunnah:There are important burning issue in the ummah and here you are, busy distributing hell fire ticket like person that is doing promo. Is Jahanaam your inherited property ni? 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by lanrexlan(m): 10:47pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
inagbe1:Ameen dear brother and you too. Wallah, the ideology is sickening. I remember when I was practising this ideology, that time I can't think. It was like my brain was blocked. When I gained admission into the university then, the core salafi brothers told us in our orientation programme that matriculation gown is bidiah and it is not proper to wear it cos the prophet never wore and it resembles the attire of choristers in churches. Na so, the mumu lanrexlan then (poor me, what blocked my brain ) collected gown I paid for with my money and kept it, avoided the matriculation ceremony like a plague. Whenever I recall the incident, I feel I cheated my intellect. I just blind followed what someone told me without verifying. To Saudi Arabia issue, if you should tell these people, they would tell you that Saudi Arabia issue has always be political and what they are doing has nothing to do with Islam. Funny people |
Islam for Muslims / Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by lanrexlan(m): 10:36pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
Sissie:Uktee, I swear blind followership is a disease. If you should meet with these set of people in the real world, you would be amazed at how they talk and do things. You will keep wondering if these guys think at all. Allah in many verses of the Qur'an would say "Afala taqilun(Don't you think?)" To them sheeples, if it their sheik doesn't agree with a certain stand, then they follow blindly on that. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by lanrexlan(m): 10:31pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree: "People that live in glass house shouldn't throw stones". He carried salafism for head not knowing someone with higher ranking is coming Power pass power my brother. Nobody should come after him o. We had already had enough of the comedy, we need productive discussion and not takfeering that won't add to the Ummah. Ikupakuti nearly bust my tummy with that. "Ijebu ideology" 2 Likes |
Islam for Muslims / Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by lanrexlan(m): 10:25pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
AlBaqir:My brother, abeg no vex o. The thing just look like comedy to me ni faah. I could recall that Ahlusunnah was once looking for a salafi plumber . A Sufi plumber is haram tintingz:No dear brother, I use to hear from friends. (You see that I can't even spell it correctly ) I learnt it is very interesting but I am afraid would get addicted to it. So I refrained from it and stick to the only series I am watching (Supernatural of course ) 3 Likes 1 Share |
Islam for Muslims / Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by lanrexlan(m): 6:12pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
ikupakuti:@bold, I take God beg you, when making comments be considerate of the people reading the comments faah. Imagine a scenario when you are just laughing or smiling at your phone, people might think e don dey body small small na Salafis are being paid in their own coins. Owo Abu ni a fi n se Abu lalejo 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: We Shouldn't Refer To Scholars Of Islam For Matters Of The Deen??? by lanrexlan(m): 6:03pm On Aug 07, 2017 |
Empiree: This thread is doing me jigi jigi The similitude of this thread is well-explained in this verse. Surah Al-Baqarah, Verse 113: وَقَالَتِ الْيَهُودُ لَيْسَتِ النَّصَارَىٰ عَلَىٰ شَيْءٍ وَقَالَتِ النَّصَارَىٰ لَيْسَتِ الْيَهُودُ عَلَىٰ شَيْءٍ وَهُمْ يَتْلُونَ الْكِتَابَ …………………َ The Jews said that the Christians follow nothing and the Christians said that the Jews follow nothing though they both recite the Scripture.……………… Abdelkabir says Ahlusunnah is not on the manhaj of the salaf and he is an innovator while Ahlusunnah retaliates that Abdelkabir is a kaffir and not a salafi but they are both acclaiming salafism to themselves. Who is on the path of salafs now? Games of the Throne (Salafi Version), Season 1, Episode 3 I could recall that I once told lexiconkabir that salafism is in grades on a thread then. His own version is Symbian version and here comes Android 7.2 version from the Takfeer master of NL . This is the definition of water don pass gaari for salafism oo 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refutation Of The Site Simplysalafiyah.com by lanrexlan(m): 8:10pm On Aug 01, 2017 |
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Jokes Etc / Re: My Hilarious Picture Album by lanrexlan(m): 10:38pm On Jul 26, 2017 |
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Islam for Muslims / Re: Poetic Da'wah And Other Da'wahtic Writings by lanrexlan(m): 9:36pm On Jul 26, 2017 |
sino:Ameen Wa anta fajazakallah khairan dear akhee. I am still learning. You are a mentor sir, just treading your noble footsteps. Ameen thumma Ameen. 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Poetic Da'wah And Other Da'wahtic Writings by lanrexlan(m): 11:08am On Jul 19, 2017 |
Irony of Life Life has many times defied Newton's 3rd law of motion, An action doesn't basically yield equal reaction. You treat a man like a king giving him all the attention, While you are only a pawn to reach his destination. Some will love you not for the man whom you are, But only as a potion just to heal their broken scar. Sooner or later, they are gone like a shooting star, And you become a stranger whom they watch from afar. O my friend! Do not let that in anyway deter you, Let your mercy fall ceaselessly like the morning dew. Giving its refreshing bath and aurora not only to a few, Even to those who never in an inch deserve it too. Radiate your love like the rays of the sunlight, Whose warmth is felt by everyone within its sight. Know that life is a journey; not a duel nor a fight, Give many people a ride before your soul finally takes flight. Lanrexlan 1 Like |
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