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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 7:52pm On Jul 20, 2020

AbdulSleeky:
Many of the intelligent muslims have left the islamic section.

Is it Empiree that supports underage marriage and that doesnt understand "consent", that will now create intelligent threads?

Or is it Lanrexlan that was still a student as at 2014 and was arguing with me about the real world? Someone that barely has work experience?

LMAO.

What's the correlation? angry

At least, I DON'T:

-have many monickers to troll religion for 8+ years.
-find my source of happiness on a faceless forum.
-pose as the opposite sex just to seek attention.

Take away Nairaland from your life, what's left?! Emptiness?! The same Islamic section that is dead is the same section you keep opening threads and posing as an ex-Muslim! Even, with the "dead Islamic section", it is still the sole purpose of your happiness and joy!

Attention craving is your food and Oxygen! grin

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 10:18pm On Jul 19, 2020

Empiree:
AbdulSleeky registered today . Lord have mercy

Lol, you should have been used to his numerous monickers na.

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Islam › Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by lanrexlan(m): 9:57pm On Jul 16, 2020

Jazakumullah khairan for this akhee. You just sum up the reasoning of these folks. They're not different, same questions with surface dressing.

May Allah plant our feet firm

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Islam › Re: Is The Quran Perfect? by lanrexlan(m): 10:45pm On Jul 06, 2020

whitelotus:
My buddy even posted many topics that were not addressed in the recycled topics thread-

Your buddy or yourself? angry

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Islam › Re: Nairaland Muslim Newbies: Introduce Yourselves Here by lanrexlan(m): 2:08pm On Jun 15, 2020*

obadisa:
Salam Alaikhum.

I'm Abdulazeez, from kwara state, serving in kebbi state.

You're welcome brother.

Wa alaykum salaam warahmatulah wabarakatuh

Here

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Islam › Re: Nairaland Muslim Newbies: Introduce Yourselves Here by lanrexlan(m): 2:07pm On Jun 15, 2020

Excel70:
Salam alaykum bro and sis in the the statement Hazbunallhi wani mal killu , ni monimollahi wa ni no we sirri where can I find the second statement( ni monimollahi wa ni no as killu) in the quran

Wa alaykum salaam warahmatulah wabarakatuh akhee.

Surah Al-Anfal, Verse 40:
وَإِن تَوَلَّوْا فَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ مَوْلَاكُمْ نِعْمَ الْمَوْلَىٰ وَنِعْمَ النَّصِيرُ

And if they turn away, then know that Allah is your Maula (Patron, Lord, Protector and Supporter, etc.), (what) an Excellent Maula, and (what) an Excellent Helper!

Surah Al-Hajj, Verse 78:
وَجَاهِدُوا فِي اللَّهِ حَقَّ جِهَادِهِ هُوَ اجْتَبَاكُمْ وَمَا جَعَلَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ مِنْ حَرَجٍ مِّلَّةَ أَبِيكُمْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ هُوَ سَمَّاكُمُ الْمُسْلِمِينَ مِن قَبْلُ وَفِي هَٰذَا لِيَكُونَ الرَّسُولُ شَهِيدًا عَلَيْكُمْ وَتَكُونُوا شُهَدَاءَ عَلَى النَّاسِ فَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتُوا الزَّكَاةَ وَاعْتَصِمُوا بِاللَّهِ هُوَ مَوْلَاكُمْ فَنِعْمَ الْمَوْلَىٰ وَنِعْمَ النَّصِيرُ

And strive hard in Allah's Cause as you ought to strive (with sincerity and with all your efforts that His Name should be superior). He has chosen you (to convey His Message of Islamic Monotheism to mankind by inviting them to His religion, Islam), and has not laid upon you in religion any hardship, it is the religion of your father Ibrahim (Abraham) (Islamic Monotheism). It is He (Allah) Who has named you Muslims both before and in this (the Quran), that the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) may be a witness over you and you be witnesses over mankind! So perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), give Zakat and hold fast to Allah [i.e. have confidence in Allah, and depend upon Him in all your affairs] He is your Maula (Patron, Lord, etc.), what an Excellent Maula (Patron, Lord, etc.) and what an Excellent Helper!

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Education › Re: LAUTECH: Nigeria Best State University in Pictures by lanrexlan(m): 11:17am On Jun 09, 2020

Rilwayne001:
The moderator that moved this crap to FP should be banned for 1 year. He does not know his work well.

LAUTECH of all schools?! The school is looking like a polytechnic self

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Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims On This Site Need A Safe Space? by lanrexlan(m): 3:52pm On Jun 02, 2020

alphaNomega:
Do we have backup now?

Only the owner can answer that.

Islam › Re: Why Do Muslims On This Site Need A Safe Space? by lanrexlan(m): 12:14pm On May 31, 2020

alphaNomega:
Lol. What caused the so called tsunami?

I took a break from NL at the time and returned to hear there was a tsunami

Nairaland was hacked and lost most of the threads (like two or three years sha). There wasn't backup for that duration.

Islam › Re: Why Do Islam Permit The Marriage Of Underaged Girls (10-15) Years by lanrexlan(m): 4:55am On Apr 26, 2020

Empiree:
Audio volunteer

Empty korodom making noise cheesy

Islam › Re: Why Do Islam Permit The Marriage Of Underaged Girls (10-15) Years by lanrexlan(m): 12:47pm On Apr 25, 2020

whitelotus:
In prisons in the UK and USA, the inmates beat paedophiles to death. Just imagine that. Robbers, murderers, thieves, drug abusers and drug traffickers all gathering to beat paedophiles. That is how disgusting pedophilia is.

I will continue to call you out without mercy since you support muslims who engage in pedophilia. You justify it.you deflect to christianity when cornered.

Yawns

Islam › Re: Why Do Islam Permit The Marriage Of Underaged Girls (10-15) Years by lanrexlan(m): 12:46pm On Apr 25, 2020

Empiree:
Oh he is logicboy again

Omo ale ni boy yen sha

Yes, account number 45 grin

Islam › Re: Why Do Islam Permit The Marriage Of Underaged Girls (10-15) Years by lanrexlan(m): 5:23am On Apr 25, 2020

whitelotus:
Thanks for being honest about it.

We have three muslims here who defend this underage marriage. Lanrexlan, Empiree and Rilwayne001.

They all claim that there is nothing wrong or point out that some Christians do it too.

Please stop spamming my mentions and stop lying too. Are you bored Logicboy?

Islam › Re: How Existence Of Male And Female Prove The Existence Of God by lanrexlan(m): 12:00pm On Apr 24, 2020

tintingz:
You're dishonest person. Stop this dissonance.

This verse clearly said "Allah created in pairs ALL THINGS the earth PRODUCES " meaning everything that produces has a pair. Again it said "they have a pair of their own" which is false!

We have discover that not all things that produces have a pair like the asexual specie. Even if it's not talking about gender pair the flaws still stand that not all things that produces on earth has a pair.

Your brother above with his mental gymnastics said water has a gender pair, fresh water is female and salt water is male.

And many explanations by Muslims scholars on the verse talked about gender pair. This thread is talking about gender pair.

Again, not all things on earth needs a pair to produce even if we're not talking about gender-pair.

Okay tintingz

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 11:59am On Apr 24, 2020

whitelotus:
Tintingz is okay, please.

You guys should stop acting like hypocrites.

You cannot check yourselves when you argue and insult non-muslims.

You cannot see your own problems when you aggressively defend paedophilia done by muslims who marry teenagers....

Okay Logicboy

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 10:03am On Apr 23, 2020

Rilwayne001:
He's seriously troubled and really needs help. He's recent actions shows he's having some kind of nightmares and maybe he's really nervous. Check his recent posts, he doesn't seem okay at all. Really aggressive and impervious to correction.

I have noticed that too, the obsession has led to something serious for him. He just seems to be jumping from one place to another.

The pride in him won't make him take corrections, a product of ignorance and arrogance!

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Islam › Re: How Existence Of Male And Female Prove The Existence Of God by lanrexlan(m): 9:46am On Apr 23, 2020

tintingz:
"Glory to Allah who created in pairs all things that the earth produces as well as their own (human) kind and (other) things of which they have no knowledge " (Qur'an 36:36)

And of everything We have created pairs, that you may remember” (Quran51:47)

It is very obvious you lack comprehension skills. Where is gender mentioned in these ayahs? Is a pair restricted to genders? When I asked on the other thread if you were okay, you thought it is an insult. But truly, it seems you're not okay. You just wanna argue even when there is nothing to argue about. Rilwayne001 was right when he said your atheism wasn't borne out of reasoning or knowledge. (I once told you this too)

What does "a pair" means? A set of two things used together or regarded as a unit. E.g. "a pair of gloves, a pair of shoes." So in your small brain, a pair of gloves/shoes means male and female glove/shoe abi?

A pair can also mean two people or things related in some way or considered together. E.g. "A company run by a pair of brothers".

Where does the definition limits it to GENDER ONLY? In the noble verses you quoted, where is gender pair mentioned?! When Allah says He created in pairs, it NEVER REFERS TO GENDER ONLY. Pairs can be of different forms, gender is just a form of a pair.

Male and female are a pair, Black and white are a pair, short and tall are a pair, sweet and sour are a pair, slim and robust are a pair. Life and death are a pair, day and night are a pair and the examples are endless. We have sweet and bitter yams, they are a pair. Aren't they? There are sweet and sour oranges, aren't they a pair? Why were you thinking male and female only when arguing? It simply shows you aren't sincere.

So I ask you once again where do you see GENDER pair mentioned in those ayahs?

Afala taqilun? (Can't you think?)

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Islam › Re: How Existence Of Male And Female Prove The Existence Of God by lanrexlan(m): 6:18am On Apr 23, 2020

tintingz:
Stop living in dissonance.

Oga answer the question, is the Qur'an saying EVERYTHING has a gender-pair a wrong claim, yes or no?

I challenged you to point out where the Qur'an says EVERYTHING has a GENDER pair.

Let's see how you're going goof as usual.

Islam › Re: ...... by lanrexlan(m): 6:13am On Apr 23, 2020

Rilwayne001:
I dey where you put me ohh.

Hope you're preparing for Ramadan!?

Coronavirus has really beclouded everything.

The atmosphere isn't that high as compared to other Ramadan. Everything is just silent.

Seriously, may Allah grant us succor and grant us goodness.

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 6:10am On Apr 23, 2020

Empiree:
Covid19 na bastard

KINI BIBELI ATI KURAANI SO NIPA JESU CHRISTI

https://www.facebook.com/www.risalatulhaqdawah.org/videos/704734186937330/

Those guys are clown. �� grin

I remembered when one of those Christians was debating Ustadh Adepoju and said that ustadh is ignorant of the Qur'an. He said the Qur'an commanded Muslims to be building churches.

The ustadh was surprised and asked for evidence. The guy said "Have you not read in the Qur'an surah Qasas?" To him, Qasas means "kosoosi" which means to be building churches in English. Smh lol grin

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 6:09am On Apr 23, 2020

tintingz:
How do you people do this? Like how does two set of delusional people in different Religions argue this?

It's like Superman fan arguing for the truth with Spiderman fan. Using two fictional books to argue for the truth that will end up with circular reasoning fallacy.

You can never see the end of this kinda argument, it will always be delusion upon delusion.

Are you okay bro?

Islam › Re: ...... by lanrexlan(m): 11:32pm On Apr 21, 2020

Rilwayne001:
Lanrexlan, come and see something ohh

I anticipate this though lipsrsealed

It is understandable, Rilwayne how far na?

Empiree, Wa alaykum salaam warahmatulah wabarakatuh, we fully understand bro. May Allah safeguard you. Next one will be better in sha Allah. May Allah elongate our lives on goodness.

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 9:53pm On Apr 07, 2020

tintingz:
What other methods do you suggest?

Science deal with things that can be observed, experiments. It's not about trust, it's about things that can be tested objectively by anybody.

You aren't getting the point. Yes, science deals with experiments but your own knowledge of science is based on testimonial knowledge.

Your knowledge of the world being a sphere is an example. This belief of yours is not based on mathematics or science. It is purely centred on testimony. You may say: “I have seen pictures”, “I have read it in science books”, “All my teachers told me”, “I can go on the highest mountain peak and observe the curvature of the Earth”, and so on.

However, upon intellectual scrutiny, all of these answers fall under testimonial knowledge. Seeing pictures or images is testimonial because you have to accept the say-so of the authority or person who said it is an image of the world. Learning this fact from science textbooks is also due to testimonial transmission, as you have to accept what the authors say as true. This also applies when referring to your teachers.

This source of knowledge and others like moral truths, logical and mathematical truths, science can't account for them. Yet, they are vital.

tintingz:
Even if we destroy all scientific research today and redo the research we will still get same results of the previous research.

This is insinuating that science is static and experiments overtime will always yield the same results. This is wrong as regards science. All scientific theories are ‘work in progress’ and ‘approximate models’.

There are things you don't understand about experiments in science. Experiments in science work on limited resources and they draw a general conclusion from it. Scientists heavily rely on inductive arguments to form conclusions about the data that they have observed. However, since all observations are limited or based on a particular set of observed data, then deriving a conclusion based on limited data will not be certain.

Example, science tells us that pure water boils at 100°C, but it is based on inductive arguments cos they have NEVER tested every sources of pure water on earth. They simply concluded on the limited research they did.

tintingz:
And yes, there are empirical evidence of the earth curvature.

As if he has seen it grin

. Your belief of earth's curvature is purely testimonial, you are trusting other's people reports.

tintingz:
Lol, this is just confirming bias. Every Religion point signs to their Gods to prove it existence. This is more like a post hoc fallacy, "Because this, therefore God".

You can't possibly with empirical evidence connect a phenomena to Allah, you can't, you only use your confirmation bias to do so.

"Atheism is so senseless. When I look at the solar system, I see the earth at the right distance from the sun to receive the proper amounts of heat and light. This did not happen by chance." -Isaac Newton

This is what I am telling you to do, look at things around you, how they are fashioned and created, look at your own creation and tell me that you happened by chance without any purpose.

tintingz:
The only empirical evidence to support your God existence is doing miracles in his name.

E.g split the moon by mentioning Allah's name, if everyone can do this then this shows an evidence Allah is somewhere answering.

Miracles belong to the Prophets of Allah to support their prophethood. Everyone can't do miracles as per Islam. The greatest miracle is the Qur'an.

What we have now is charismata. It is an unusual event which Allah manifests through some of his Auliya for supporting a mundane or spiritual matter.

tintingz:
Not true. I don't know why most Muslims use his line everytime like they know my mind already.

If you can empirical prove Allah today I'm ready to revert back to Islam. This is something I will never break. One of the reasons I stop believing in Allah is no evidence support his existence.

Lol, haven't you disputed many personal experience of people and accused them of suffering from schizophrenia? Didn't you accuse people of hallucinations and delusions when they said they spiritual encounter?

If a sign should come to you now, with how you have rejected logical reasons in the past, you will certain reject the signs cos you're not sincere with yourself.

The Qur'an says
Surah Al-Hijr, Verse 14:
وَلَوْ فَتَحْنَا عَلَيْهِم بَابًا مِّنَ السَّمَاءِ فَظَلُّوا فِيهِ يَعْرُجُونَ

And even if We opened to them a gate from the heaven and they were to continue ascending thereto,

And what will their reply be? The Qur'an answers
Surah Al-Hijr, Verse 15:
لَقَالُوا إِنَّمَا سُكِّرَتْ أَبْصَارُنَا بَلْ نَحْنُ قَوْمٌ مَّسْحُورُونَ
They would surely say: "Our eyes have been (as if) dazzled. Nay, we are a people bewitched."

That's what you will say if you see a sign cos the sincerity is lost.

tintingz:
I realize that using logic as argument for your God is more like an idea than being real. Logic is an idea I hope you know that.

Even with logic, there are flaws in argument for Allah.

You can't stand logic for God without shooting yourself in the leg, we've been there before and you were busy shifting goalpost and evading questions.

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 7:47pm On Apr 07, 2020

Riduane:
Even Buhari don't share 50:50 with Tinubu

So what's the share? sad

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 7:42pm On Apr 07, 2020

Born2Freak:

Arrant nonsense.

What the hp are you talking about? Is it not with archeology and carbon dating we use to uncover past histories?

Cool down, I am not talking about age/date. (that's what carbon dating will give). Age is just a number that estimates when an organism came into existence.

Carbon dating can only tell you the age and it is not even 100% accurate.

Can carbon dating tell us about our past experiences, emotions and stories? That's what I meant by reality of the past. We all believe we have past experiences and science can NEVER prove our past using physical processes.

Born2Freak:
Consciousness has been studied by scientists and we have been making progress
Onit.

Lol, most of the approaches (biological, non-materialistic, materialistic approaches) by science on subjective consciousness have lapses and they don't really explain it. If you really examine and scrutinize the scientific method and the philosophy of science, you will understand that subjective consciousness is beyond the reach of science.

A theistic approach makes more sense than all.

Born2Freak:
Does your religion reveal any useful truth? No. It is inferior to science. A society without Islam can survive

Yes, my religion gives life a meaning and a purpose, something your atheism can't address. For your atheism, the formula is simple: no God, which includes the associated concepts of Divine accountability, equals no ultimate hope, no values and no purpose. It also leads to no eternal and meaningful happiness. A society with Islam provides us with answers to all these issues.

A society without Islam is like a gushing river without a dam to restrain it. Sooner or later, it will overflow its courses and lead to utter ruins for its denizens.

Born2Freak:
A society without science and naturalism cannot survive

Partially true tongue

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 1:26pm On Apr 07, 2020

Born2Freak:
This is a simple point. Please, which truth have you ever reached through non-scientific or physical means?

The reality of the past, consciousness, and more. Can science or your physical processes explain any of the above?

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 12:00pm On Apr 07, 2020

Riduane:
Ah! Why you so forgetful?

I'm actually a department president and I only got elected last year. And we're not really getting any money. The way Association is run in University of Ilorin ehn, if Nigerian government is run like that, Nigeria would be better than it currently is
We're not getting monthly payment sha.. We're only getting some stipend at the end of the tenure which is at the end of my final semester, and coronavirus has caged everyone at home now

Sorry, I thought you be olorioko of the faculty ni. I have been dreaming niyen grin

Eeyah, corona don cause kasala oo. Ki Allah shanu, when you get your stipends, remember say na 50:50 oooo grin

. Mi o fe story o

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 11:58am On Apr 07, 2020

Born2Freak:
Philosophical naturalism is the only way humans can understand the world. The only way humans can determine truth is through observation and testing. You cannot see beyond your 5 senses.

It is not the only way cos it has many limitations. Again, these are the limitation of science vis-a-vis philosophical naturalism:

It is limited to observation.
It cannot delve into the personal.
It cannot answer why things happen.
It cannot address some metaphysical questions.
It cannot prove necessary truths.

Can you explain how we can use observation and testing of physical processes to ascertain the truth in this story?

"Your aunty knocks on your door and presents you with a lovely home-baked chocolate cake. You accept the gift and place the cake on your kitchen table. Once she has gone, you open the box to have a slice. Before you indulge, you ask yourself a question: Why has she baked me this cake? Why?!"

Born2Freak:
You are saying that philosophical naturalism cannot explain the problem of consciousness and the fine tuning of the universe.

Well, let me correct you. You are forwarding a God-of-the-gaps argument. Just because science or naturalism cannot explain something, it does not mean it is not useful or effective. You religious people just ran God into anything that we dont understand.

I am not using god of gaps argument, I am simply telling you that science or naturalism is limited. It can't explain many things, and that's my point. I simply pointed out things science can't explain and will NEVER explain cos science deals with physical processes only. You can NEVER understand some things via science, that's the bitter truth.

I don't reject science (I love science and I am a science guy), and I cling tightly to my faith in Islam. We can accept both, you just need to know where to draw lines. Science is limited as it changes its stances on issues, divine book is eternal as science still confirms some things already mentioned in divine book. Divine book is ahead of science. That's my point.

Born2Freak:
Furthermore, everything we know about the universe is a result of philosophical naturalism. We observe, we study, we learn.

That's the beauty of science, it progress and changes with time. It changes its stances on issues when better observations and testings are provided

The discovery and use of the microscope and the electron microscope are good examples of scientific progress. Therefore, we can never be certain about our current understanding of the physical world, because it can change with improved observations.

Some of the "everything" we know about the world has been mentioned in the Qur'an even before the advent of advanced scientific methods that led to these things.

Born2Freak:
Lastly, if you follow the previous paragraph, you would know that I'm for methodological naturalism

Your problem is with metaphysical naturalism.

Yes, I have problem with metaphysical naturalism cos there is more to what meets the eyes and other 4 senses. As stated above, many things can't be explained by physical processes.

I don't have much problem with methodological naturalism because Islam accepts that the whole universe is made up of physical causes. But where we part way is that you believe that these physical processes/causes happened by themselves or randomly while I believe that these causes are pure manifestation of the Divine will (God).

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by lanrexlan(m): 11:06am On Apr 07, 2020

tintingz:
Even tho there are no other methods to answer the natural phenomena around us than using science or you have any other method you can suggest? But...

There are other methods to test natural phenomenas around us. Most of the things you believe as a so called atheist are based on "trusting the third party narrations". Have you seen the curvature of the earth? They are all based upon testimonies of others. Personal experience is another thing.

tintingz:
I'm not telling anybody to give empirical evidence using scientific methods nor show Allah directly to me, of course you can't do that since he's a spirit being, I'm saying show empirical evidence that atleast show that Allah is real things like supernatural events.

Allah is known by the signs that point to Him.

"Eyes do not see Him with a direct witnessing.
But hearts perceive Him through the realities of authentic belief. He is known through the evidence that points to Him. He is described by indications. He cannot be compared to human beings. And He cannot be perceived by the senses." (By Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib AS in Nahjul Balagha & al-Kafi)

There are tons of signs pointing to Allah around. Just open yours and see. Why are you turning away from them?

Surah Fussilat, Verse 53:
سَنُرِيهِمْ آيَاتِنَا فِي الْآفَاقِ وَفِي أَنفُسِهِمْ حَتَّىٰ يَتَبَيَّنَ لَهُمْ أَنَّهُ الْحَقُّ أَوَلَمْ يَكْفِ بِرَبِّكَ أَنَّهُ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ شَهِيدٌ

We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their ownselves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Quran) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things?

Or you want a miracle? You want clouds to fall on you? Or a book should descend on you? Or angels should line up in front of you?

Even if you see them, you will still find ways to discredit them as you always do cos the sincerity is missing.

tintingz:
It's either I give things that will convince me or you demonstrate it if you have any, again I'm talking of empirical evidence not logical arguments.

So you don't do logical or philosophical arguments again?! Funny, Lol, it is now about signs grin

. You are enough as an evidence pointing to the powers of God.

Surah Adh-Dhariyat, Verse 20-21:
وَفِي الْأَرْضِ آيَاتٌ لِّلْمُوقِنِينَ وَفِي أَنفُسِكُمْ أَفَلَا تُبْصِرُو
And on the earth are signs for those who have Faith with certainty, And also in your ownselves. Will you not then see?

Can't you see Taiwo?

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