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Prototocos:
Hallelujah is of private interpretation, it’s not a heavenly language. It is direct from Hebrew spelled halleluyah! meaning praise the lord! You read the account of Simon Peter diligently (2 Peter 1: from 1-21) or check your dictionary you will understand better..now I see why Christian are actually wallowing deep into religion due to laziness to read their bibles thereby allowing their impulse to make ridicule of them outside due to religion.

Do you realize some people acknowledge Hebrew as the language spoken in heaven?

And most of God's names are in Hebrew? Jehovah Rapha, Nissi, Elohim, Adonai, El-Shaddai, El-Bethel etc....

That the earth was of one language initially and some people believe that language was Hebrew?

The fact that we call him names in every language distinguishes him from the principality named only in Arabic.

And that Hallelujah is a word that will be mentioned in Heaven according to Revelations 19 verse 1?

And when some people say Hallelujah is an heavenly language, what they mean doesn't mean the literal translation but the fact that only people interested in YHWH sing Hallelujah.

But the most important thing is not to think we know all about God, this is what Elijah thought when he said he was the only remaining prophet, and God told him there were 7000 people also.

One would think as a prophet he should know or see, but as every other human he was limited to what was revealed to him.

When you referenced Apostle Paul, do remember this same man said "he dies daily".

I understand this as a daily self-control, and sacrifice. Neglecting the works of the flesh and making an effort to live for God.

Is it the effort you call works?

Even the faith is justified by what you do.

The bone of contention was that the Pastor implied that you are saved by faith. True, because all you have to do is confess in your heart, but life doesn't stop there.

You have to actively make the right choices until your last day on earth. This is where obedience comes in, because life is not black and white. There will be tests, trials and temptations, even tribulation and persecution for some. Living by faith at that juncture becomes a function of following the standard of the Bible.

Like the Bible says, when you know what is good and you refuse to do it, it becomes sin.

To answer your question, when you sin your name will be removed from the book of life if you die in your fallen state.

The question is why will a Pastor say people will not go to hell because of sin?

Sin will take people to hell. Blasphemy about the Holy Spirit will take people to hell. Rejecting salvation will take people to hell. Careless lifestyles will take people to hell. Disobedience will take people to hell.

Please read 2 Peter 2 from 9 to 22. It is possible to backslide, and verse 21 is instructive.

Going to 2 Peter 3:9, the verse says that all should come to repentance, and in verse 11 &14 it stipulates how we should live.

Even a G.O. may fall into sin and go to hell if he is preaching for his stomach and not the will of God.

We are called to be sober and watchful, not argumentators, judges or spectators.

Mftivi:
As I take a dump I can now respond to this. Few questions for you, what happens when you become born again ?
That process is it reversible ? Why did Jesus take the thief on the cross to heaven ? What really did that scripture mean ? Romans 6 vs 1, the Bible says "shall we continue in sin and expect grace to abound?" I will answer the last question because you seemingly can’t understand the context there. From that scripture two truths is established and that is as much as there is sin, grace will abound but it says should we continue then ? It doesn’t say the grace will stop abiding! It’s common sense, she shouldn’t continue indulging in sin because grace will abound that is highly irresponsible and misuse of the gift of righteousness and salvation given to us by Jesus Christ but it still doesn’t cancel that grace, it will however cancel your destiny like a Christian who goes to engage in armed robbery, sexual impurity and carelessness, these sins have real life consequences here on earth. However if anybody could ever become perfect enough to be qualified by their works then Jesus wouldn’t have died. You lot should stop trying to help God you need his help just accept it and be grateful we are all piece of shit humans! None of you preachers of salvation by works could ever qualify to make heaven by works just accept the gift and just be grateful. Answer the questions.

Salvation is sealed by the blood of Jesus. Your works as you call it, are evidence of your salvation. What you fail to acknowledge that is that in your tendency to argue, you have missed the point where I implied flawlessness is impossible but living by God's standard is achievable.

I didn't even mention works. The keyword is obedience. That's what I wrote.

How you confused obedience for works is what I don't know.

Are you telling me if you do something wrong after you've being saved, you shouldn't pray asking for forgiveness? Or are you saying the instructions to live righteously in the Book of Revelations and other parts of the Bible is just "works" and not a requirement?

Or that it is impossible to do what is right?

Mentioning the thief on the cross doesn't cut it because back everyone's life and spiritual encounters are different. He found grace at the last moment, what about people who have to live 60 years after they receive salvation?

Are these people just to talk about faith? without living their lives and PLEASING GOD through obedience to his word?

When even Jesus said "if you love me obey my commandments?"

I take what Jesus said in the Bible about perfection over what any man or pastor says.

Mftivi:
the ones with thick ignorance are always the loudest, I don’t have time to school you.

Have a blast Mr Schooler!
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Faith & Obedience are 2 different things, you can be full of faith and later fall into disobedience.

What matters at that stage is what you do next.

All have sinned-True.

Jesus died for the sins of the world-True.

But this argument will tend to the direction of those who say "once you are saved, you cannot lose your salvation". This is False.

You can lose your salvation if you return to living a life of sin.

In fact, sin is a big word and it may be easily misunderstood. Anger fits better or Pride, which can easily be misconstrued as self-confidence.

When you make a mistake, you acknowledge it and seek forgiveness and you choose to live righteously.

At the point where some people enjoy flagrant disobedience to what the Bible says then hell is inevitable.

In contrast, a repentant heart seeks to make amends just like King David did.

It is possible to grow as a Christian to a level where you are self-disciplined and you can reduce errors in your lifestyle.

By doing this you are aspiring for perfection and one definition of perfection is "being exactly what is described or necessary". Most people only think of it as being flawless, but we are flawed beings as long as we remain on this plane of existence.

Merge the scriptures I quoted with this explanation for better understanding.

Mftivi:
read through the confusion you put up there, you are not throwing out scriptures that you don't understand.

Stop disgracing the schools you attended.

If you cannot comprehend, then continue with your hero-worship.

Mftivi:
then I put it to you that you are headed to hell because you must sin.

Lol.

The Bible says "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."

And in Romans 6 vs 1, the Bible says "shall we continue in sin and expect grace to abound?"

So actively you choose how you want to live and that's a personal daily decision.

Philippians 2:12 says "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."

So my friend, sin will only stop you from making heaven if you choose to dwell at the same level from the day you give your life to Christ till you die.

If however, you grow in grace and the knowledge of God, you will fulfill your purpose on Earth and make heaven at the end.

That's why Jesus gave the admonition, "Be ye therefore perfect even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."

collinsfhk:
Okay, no problem. But this is too much a mistake from a 'Pastor' of his calibre supposedly ministering on the pulpit under the influence of the Holy Spirit. However, this is not the first. Let's us be wise. Thank you


EDITED:
What's your view here -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPDVP91XOII

I am open to learn ...

There are errors in this pastor's teaching.

Heaven & Hell is determined not by faith but by obedience to God's word and not one dogma of the Christian religion.

Sin will take you to hell. No drama, straight talk. The book of Revelation says so.

Rejecting salvation is one of the ways and not the only to go to hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWVLoLRpYYc

RIP Olanrewaju Fasasi!

He was one of the best lyricists of his generation.

My favorite Sound Sultan song was Koleyewon.

"Na wetin you see with your eye,

you go feel,

No matter how you visualize am,

E no fit be real,"

Sadly, I went through this thread and I have yet to find someone mention this song. Other songs like Area, Jangbajantis & Enter the place were mentioned.

Koleyewon was my favourite song because most people talk about empathy, but in reality "only he who knows it feels it"-anonymous.

Sadly, his watch has ended.

DDDEnterprises:
If he's caught, kill him too. Straight up!

let his penis be thrust in the throat of a hippopotamus and leave the beast to finish work

Why do you assume it's one guy?

There must have been at least two guys involved.

Still available.

Still available!

Truvel:
Concerning Spiritual Things, Ignorance Is Not An Excuse.

Very correct. This is a spiritual law.

powerhouse3:
so how can innocent generation get free from a curse that was lay before they were born....

Prayer to break such curses by the blood of Jesus.

Solsix:
Most people die without fulfilling thier destiny. If u live a careless life u may not be able to fulfill your destiny

You are correct about many people not fulfilling their destiny but there's the bigger picture of immutability of certain events in history.

Even when some people fail to fulfill their destiny, they are replaced because of the importance of their assignments.

That's why abortion is a real problem, just as suicide is a problem. Every life has a purpose and it fits somewhere.

The funny thing is even people who are scientists and atheists have specific purposes to fulfill in life.

Take Elon Musk for example, born in South Africa, and leading the charge to build eco-friendly electric vehicles. I bet he would not have achieved half of what he has accomplished if he never left South Africa.

No idea in the world is original or exclusive to one person, circumstances and execution are the differences.

I often remember a story about the late Chief Obafemi Awolowo and his failed quest to rule Nigeria, some men of God spoke of a curse in his background which prevented him from being accepted or achieving his desire. If he had ruled Nigeria, he might have laid different foundations for the nation because he was a visionary administrator. Nigeria exists till this day, did we miss an opportunity ? yes. However, the cycle of life continues. People acknowledge his sagacity but life goes on.

Truvel:
U Are Right. However, I Asked because U Said Destiny Cannot Be Destroyed. Destiny Can Be Destroy Or Shattered If U Go Lose Gaurd. What Do U Think Of Those Who Died Prematurely Or Untimely? Don't Dey Av Destinies? Dey Do. I Shared A Story Abt A Young Man Who Was Kind & Generous To D People Of Our Community, He Was Murdered By Unknown Gun Men. He Died At Age Of 39. It Was Really A Painful Loss.

You are correct about death, some people die and the impact of their death creates a void which no other person can fill.

But like they say, "a living dog is better than a dead lion," as long as there is life, there is hope.

DSC7:
Wat about those born wit dreads but was later shaved due to some circumstances will it affect their destiny?

Never. They have a special aura regardless of the fact that their hair was cut.

DSC7:
By Nazarite u mean those born with dreads

Not really born with dreads but they never cut their hair from birth as a symbol of dedication.

DSC7:
Delayed like how long

Sincerely , this I do not know.

Truvel:
What Abt Samson?

Samson was disobedient and that was what killed him.

It wasn't Delilah that was his first mistake.

He broke his vow by eating honey from a dead animal. That was the beginning of his end because he then went from one mistake to another.

As a Nazarite, Leviticus says you must not go near or touch dead things. But Samson did, and since nothing happened he kept on moving from one mistake to another.

DSC7:
What about those that ve bn destined to be wealthy.....can any forces hinder them frm achieving that

Destiny can only be delayed but never destroyed as long as the person is determined.

He wasn't biased, but probably the interns need to work harder to earn their spot.

With Grammarly or some other language correcting software, this error could have been avoided.

LikeAking:
They all claim to belong, etc.

Forget those types.

He is an author, apparently he was interviewed by the BBC back in 1992. He operated in Benin city back then. I read 2 of his books written after his conversion, while I listened to one of one his books as an audiobook on YouTube.

He gives detailed information.

Like the spheres of occultic operation:
Banwa,
Devic
Yamaloch
Astral
Terrestrial
Azura &
Kalami realms.

Information about rulers of darkness, which are demonic guardians operating instead of guardian angels. How these rulers change every 52 days. He also mentioned that knowing how to appease them was part of the methods to get favor while he was in the occult.

To the guy seeking wealth on this thread, first thing you need to know is what you were destined to become in life. Only by operating in your life's purpose can you find wealth.

Secondly, not everyone was created to be wealthy but by consistency you can achieve a level of comfort.

I will advise you to inquire by praying, what you were destined to become, what town you are supposed to operate from, and the business/career you are supposed to be involved in. This is key to your success.

At times destiny is attached to certain dates in life. A popular woman in the political sphere will die this year at F.G. level, this death has been an open revelation to many who dream or see visions for several years now, but the time of manifestation is between now and the end of this current political administration.

Why I mentioned this is because there are events which will surely happen. So, pray, know your path in life and follow it.

Premier pro ....

Yeah

Look for the name Iyke Nathan Uzorma on YouTube.

He was a former occult grandmaster now turned to a Pastor.

He talks like a Professor, so if you are not intelligent you might not understand all he is saying, but if you watch some of his messages on YouTube, he speaks from a place of knowledge of mystical, ethereal experiences.

Spirit of polygamy at play, because you can't eat your cake and have it. If you stop your hubby from having sex with you, your stupid action will lead him to other women.

Listen, if you follow your family's advice you will regret it in the future.

Because, the new man is showering you with gifts you won't know his character. Secondly why will you break your marriage because of hard times? Who told you the new man won't have hard times too?

Don't destroy your life by listening to people who only want to eat food without thinking about the future or the consequences of every action.

Hustle and pray.

Misscheery:
I need a federal government job seriously, I have 1.5m at hand and ready to pay once i get the job please.

Don't fall into any trap ooo, unless you are close to the person you want to do this deal with.

Even 700k will get you a job, but you need to know the person personally to avoid stories.