₦airaland Forum

raumdeuter:
Oasisx larride your brother don come again

Shey na we be Oyo Messi he never see Oyo Salah Oyo Modric abi na Oyo Lewandowski

Oyo Messi ko, Oyo Ronaldo ni. pic.twitter.com/yxedn0kNt5

— Ayekooto (@DeeOneAyekooto) March 28, 2023

Oyo Ronaldo 😂

iamoyindamola:
MC have more chances of winning than him

Which MC 😂

iamoyindamola:
Under which party

APC now

Though I’d wager it will be between Gbaja and Hamzat the current deputy.

raumdeuter:
Next governorship candidate of Lagos be that

I doubt. Make we Dey look sha.

FBS:
ah ok. O de ja mi l'aya.

Tuales to the 2 bosses.

😂😂😂

Roland17:
@Larride/ Oasis (I no sabi which one u dey use dis days)

What is the political future of Hakeem M. Okunola? I have said it here before that he is one of favorite administrators/ politician.

Do you see Asiwaju taking him to Abuja or would he continue with the Civil Service/ Lagos politics? I’d like to see him in a bigger role soon.

I like Hakeem tbh but I doubt he will get the ticket though it seems he’s being groomed for it. Tick all the boxes.

But I think he’s from the same Lagos Island LG as Gov Sanwo-Olu (I’m not entirely sure), if so that will work against him because it won’t be fair to all other part of the state.

Definitely not going to Abuja. 😂

Apart from the usual faces, the person I want to go to Abuja is Lagos State commissioner for health, Prof Akin Abayomi. The man is good and sound. Just maybe we might see improvements in our health sector.

FBS:
Hang on, is Larride Oasis X?

No I’m not.

Make I no just catch Roland17 for under bridge Ikeja. 😡

ToyinDipo:
Prices of fuel in Cameroon, Benin… neighboring countries is around 800 Naira black market rate. If you can absolutely stop people from transporting the fuel they bought with subsidy in Nigeria across border.

This is still failure of successive govt, is that not so?

Why should the masses pay for the incompetence of successive govt?

BlueRayDick:
My old man used to say “ orisha oke o ni jẹ ki ẹni to gọ̀ gbọn ".... More like the ancestors should keep making the dumb dumber so the wise ones can continue to "chop them"

Anytime I see things like this ; I just shake my head in pity knowing some people will still fall for it.

I don’t want to believe anyone will be dumb enough to fall for that tbh.

Ibime:
Una done pay Rohr him severance?

The sooner we realize that the coaches contract is just an avenue for Pinnick to siphon money the better

Coach contract go dey talk £30k per week, meanwhile coach will tell you he is only receiving £10k while Pinnick pocket the other £20k

Pinnick is gone, we have a new NFF chairman.

Ibrahim Gusau

liveLongNprospa:
The problem is the time it would take to get electricity and our purchasing power right.
Look at that time and also check if Nigeria has the money to still do any meaningful thing after paying subsidy and servicing debt

Ok boss.

This must be a joke.

raumdeuter:
Increasing income only will simply mean everything you buy increases by a factor of the wage increase

You earn 30K rice is 15k, Now you earn 300K and rice is 150K what difference does it make?

Won’t it make it easy to buy the rice? Instead of earning 30k and price of rice increase to 80k. How you wan take Dey eat now?

Itsrm:
Road wey dem don abandon since God knows how long. I heard there were issues with some of the communities but they were never really serious about it.

How come I was now seeing pictures that the Bodo to Bonny road is almost completed?

Itsrm:
Subsidy is perhaps the only thing the masses enjoy from the government

In Rivers State where I live, there is no single major federal government project since 1999 that we can say we have benefited from. The subsidy we are managing, they want to add it to their loot.

This Buhari FG never complete the Bonny road?

Segedinho:
Mr Raumdeuter is not in Nigeria n doesn't understand what is happening...


At 180...we are lamenting about d cost of bags of rice at 50k....

Just imagine something

Price for bag of rice is not really tied to fuel. That’s on Buhari policies on agriculture.

Eazzii:
Chairman, how do we increase income?

The govt can start by increasing the minimum wage to a liveable one.

Who do you live and survive on a 30k minimum wage when subsidy removal will jack up the prices of almost everything that your normal 30k won’t even be able to get you something of 10k worth anymore.

obainojazz:
750 is still more than what we pay in Australia using official exchange rate…. On a 30k budget

Dammmmm

E no go funny sha.

I go mail you later in the day on that level we discussed. I don put call to that guy.

afrodoc2:
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Once again people are not saying it should never be done but that it should not be handled the way currency change was handled. Everybody has a breaking point. Suddenly removing it in these harsh times might lead to anarchy.

First of all, the new president should come in and assess the best way to go about it, rather than be handed a fait accompli by the cowardly outgoing president.

In terms of what can be done to minimize anarchy: 1) Improve the power situation across the country. 2) Improve public transport, especially for goods nationwide and in the major cities which would be the likely foci of dissent. These 2 actions will minimize people's dependence on fuel.

After 18 months you can reduce the subsidy being paid by about 50% and after 2-3 years you eliminate it totally. The removal could lead to electoral defeat unless you get the people onside by executing needed projects to show where the money is going, and by tackling corruption head on. Excellent PR and propaganda work would be needed.

Exactly my point.

raumdeuter:
What are these cushions for the masses that will be enough to remove subsidy

For 1 is electricity. Having stable electricity means we won’t be using fuel for every single thing we need power for.

Another is income, how do price of goods and services rise significantly while masses income remain stagnant?

raumdeuter:
You see subsidy as rewarding the people, but the truth is that the few govt patrons benefit more from this than anyone

There are many big men who wont want subsidy removed

One thing issue you are overlooking is the over dependence of the masses on fuel.

The large number of people who need fuel is greater in multiple folds to those who are sharing into the “subsidy fraud”.

I am not against subsidy removal, what I am against is the sudden removal without providing cushion for the masses. We have suffered enough.

Theflint1:
BAT is onboard the removal, the handover process has begun already, most of the decisions being made now are in tandem with BAT. Buhari is only taking the fall for it since he's on his way out already.

If you choose to believe otherwise I understand too.

BAT said he will remove fuel subsidy during his campaign I know, same way Buhari said he will remove fuel subsidy during his campaign 8yrs ago and yet here we are. Before the election took place, Buhari had said he will remove the fuel subsidy on June 1 before, this was before campaign even started.

Like I said before, let Buhari just go, let Tinubu make that decision himself as President after accessing everything on ground. We don’t want a Greek gift from Buhari.

raumdeuter:
If there are opportunities to steal there will be theft. Its that simple. The easiest way is to remove the opportunity

Its like US Mexico border, as long as there is instability and disparity in economic factors, people will always attempt to cross even if you build a nuclear bomb at the border. People still attempt to cross from North Korea to S Korea

Egbon you said people have been complaining about the same thing since 2003, don’t you think that if successive govt had actually done their job, don’t you think we won’t be saying the same thing 20yrs later?

Successive govt has failed us on this subsidy issue and I disagree wholeheartedly that the masses should be the one to suffer for successive govt gross incompetence.

A001:
The return leg of the Afcon qualifier is about to start. If Nigeria lose today, na to sack that unfortunate gaffer coaching the team

We won’t go anywhere with Pajero. Go and look at his records at Venezuela

Theflint1:
It doesn't help too that BAT is doing this hand of Jacob, voice of Esau thingy with the subsidy removal. Subsidy removal is clearly an APC policy, Buhari should come out to announce the removal if that's how they want to go, and BAT should release a policy on how they'd manage the removal.

On this I disagree.

Let Tinubu get sworn in, access the situation himself as the President and make his own decision based on his own assessment so we can know who hold responsible straight away.

Buhari should do and go. The one wey he don do is enough.

Theflint1:
Leadership is top-down.

Yes

We cannot in good conscience continue to ask the masses to make sacrifices and suffer more while we can’t see any improvement from the govt to reduce the sufferings and make our lives comfortable.

There’s so much people can take before they get to a turning point.

Let govt do it’s job before asking the masses to make sacrifices

cc Egbon raumdueter

raumdeuter:
Everything you typed was what we said over 20yrs ago, block all loopholes, provide electricity, do a phased removal, what guarantee do we have that money saved wont be relooted
If we search internet properly, we will see all these reasons given in 2003, 2010 and everytime govt attempted subsidy removal

If we have gone through this before and we are still here, Maybe we need to do something different

But all these has been failure from govt, it’s not the masses that stopped the govt from blocking subsidy hoopholes or improving our electricity. In fact it is the govt that has eroded the trust that the masses has in them.

If the govt keep failing to do their responsibilities, why should the masses be the one to suffer for it?

sod09:
Thats why I was telling blue ray it might not happen till ending of the year
We dan too suffer this year alone adding subsidy to it will create big wahala

E no go funny at all.

raumdeuter:
We have 2 terrible options

Keep subsidy and feeding the corrupt few while there wont be meaningful development
Remove subsidy and people will go into terrible suffering with a hope that it will trigger development in the future

The first question the masses will ask you is what’s the guarantee that the funds saved from the subsidy removal will be used for development?

Will it not just be rerouting the funds from one looter to another?

raumdeuter:
You realize how hard it is for development to happen with subsidy in place, Between smugglers and those who are eating fat from subsidy. There will never be a time when it will be okay

Let the government do their job and block all subsidy loopholes. Subsidy in itself is not bad, it’s the fact some people are using it to finesse the country finance that’s the problem. We just need the new govt incoming to ensure that the subsidy figures are not over bloated and those they are paying are those that are actually bringing in the fuel.

The citizens rely on fuel for most of everything we do, you cannot just dump your lack of financial responsibility on them like that. Fuel going from 180 to 750 will cause serious mayhem.

I sincerely hope PBAT won’t start his tenure with this own goal, his administration won’t recover from it.