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Hmmm interesting to know that you only believe in spirits.

sinequanon:
You know that I am not a follower of any "god"?

I know that there are spirits. Some of them have control of people through various weaknesses, like fear, "greed", guilt etc. For me, that is all there is to most religions.

look every christian who thinks deep no matter how holy he or she may be will somehow have problems with concept of eternal damnation and hell fiire. I personally have my problem with the concept and i do sincerely hope that it is not what we think it is meanwhile i toally depend on God mercy to deliver from his judgement for it is a terrible thing to fall into the hand of the of the almighty.

honourhim:
1. Frosbel is a lost soul seeking who he may devour. Only God can deliver him.

2. He is just battling with the fear of hell fire. In his foolishness he feels that denial will make hell fire non existent.

3. He doesnt believe in the virgin birth but believes in the resurrection of the dead on the last day (some died thousands of years ago). Doesnt that look stu.pid given that both events are beyond science/logic and are based on faith in the supreme power of God to do?. Someone had asked him; how did God create the first man if He cannot effect the virgin birth? but because his lost soul has been swallowed up by deceit he wont see reasons with the points raised.

am getting your gist

sinequanon:
Away from Christianity to....you tell me?

A real non-Christian has no need to question the bible...why would "god" do this, that or the other....why does this contradict with that...how did god do such and such...is god powerful enough to do x y z.

Once you are truly free from the religion, your questions will become unnecessary to you.

frosbel:
It's easy to de-convert as a Christian in Nigeria, here is what you need to do ;

1. Watch the hypocrisy and wickedness of their leaders most of whom are thieves , robbers and conmen.
2. Examine very carefully the live of the members with the word of God. The members live like the devil and claim Christ, who are they deceiving , lol.
3. Thoroughly research all their so called bible doctrines which are mostly Pagan.
4. If you don't leave after getting feedback from all these points, you are either brainwashed, part of the problem or making a profit out of it.


One key thing to have is boldness, because as soon as you turn your back on their madness they will chase you in packs like rabid dogs to tear you to pieces and further reinforce your decision to depart in the first place.

I can say thank you God for delivering me from this mother of all confusion called Nigerian Christianity.

i know many are not doing the right thing? many steal by asking people to pay them money as tithes and first fruits but frosbel my questions are still there unanswered.please do justice to the questions or tell me you wont.

sinequanon:
I didn't say he is wrong. I am just saying that he is in transition. There is nothing wrong being in transition.

Transition to atheism or deism?

symbianDON:
it's really a pity what Christians of these days have become......from the responses I have read on this thread, it shows how so-called Christians love to rejoice at the seeming limitations of other denominations different from theirs. I find it rather disturbing. what has happened to being our brother's keeper. even if you aren't completely in agreement with the teachings of a certain denomination, you must not condemn that denomination. judge not........that is what the bible teaches. leave the judgement to God. as far as I know, God through the Holy Spirit is working in different denominations....because these are just denominations....there is, but, only one church which is the body of Christ. that being said, the so-called infinity tv doesn't even belong to Christ Embassy!! funny how people just always want to mock God and still turnaround and claim to love Him.....smh

who owns infinity tv for the start?

nickydof:
The pastor might not be aware of this development. Right thinking, get across to him and I am sure the issues will be resolved. For those raining abuses on the paster, remember that even when king soul in the scriptures derailed, david still gave him the honour. Watch your mouths!!!!

See your thought is too poor for my liking.How can someone who owns a corporation not know that he has not been paying his workers for ten months?
If you want to defend Chris just say that the news is false and that will make more meaning.
On the abuse on Chris, you are still amazing with your response. Who deserve punishment? Is that man who owns his workers for ten months or those who condemn him for owing people.
God is not a respecter of persons bro.

Now the Lord started crying when He started to show me the condition of the church. Suddenly I saw a pastor on earth carrying a big suitcase and it was full of money. The Lord told me, ‘These are preachers and evangelists that are getting rich with the offerings because they are preaching lies to my people and letting my people get lost.” I tell you preachers and evangelists, preach Jesus even if you don’t receive tithes and offerings. Sanctify the church

You maybe right in whatever you say about frosbel but i am convinced he is not completely wrong even though i have come to question some of the things he believe in recent time. How can anyone publicly say that the bible is fabricated and still claim to know God(thats my problem with him). Frosbel i believe may find an answer to whatever he is looking for somehow.

sinequanon:
https://www.nairaland.com/2045070/thoughts-questions-religion/2#28909490







The poster in question became enraged by my posts, but the pattern of behaviour is familiar. People don't just wake up one morning and drop their religion. They enter into a tug-of-war with their own fears and doubt, the same fears and doubts that they previously used to try to entrap other people in their religion. They find themselves having to exorcise all their bad fear-based ideas and hypocrisy. The worse it was, the harder it is to exorcise. It usually results in an anti-religious backlash, ranting and jumping to another religion (like atheism, materialism or some other theist belief).

Thanks guys for your criticisms so far but i still wanna hear from Frosbel. Frosbel where are you? Come to the defence of what you believe.

the answer no de there

IAMGEJ:
ASK G :oGLE

op get inside your room, lock yourself up and pray for the salvation of all mankind.

IAMGEJ:
Or make e just wear condom dey sleep




dat will Help nau.

What is condom?

First i want to say that i commend and admire your boldness in saying what you believe and speaking against what you hate.You have done this not minding being labelled a heretic, an apostate, a condemned soul, a troubled soul, an atheist wannabe and some many other names that some folks have described you with.

Well i am a close observer of many of your posts and comments in nairaland because just like you, i also have issues with the present Nigeria churches when it comes to some of the burdens that the MOGs have placed on their member. I have always believed in the words of Christ when He said "whosoever the son sets free is free indeed". So i share in some of your burdens and anger against the present Nigeria and indeed the worlds church systems.

But in recent weeks i have been left dumfounded by some of your posts, stating your believe on hell fire and eternal condemnation, the virgin birth and the authenticity of the word of the word of God as recorded in the bible.

First let me start my questions from the your belief on hell fire.You sincerely believe that hell is a fabricated concept that was smuggled to keep some people in check. well my question is,if there no hell and eternal condemnation, what punishment should be melted out to those who sin and continually sin against God? what is the reward for the iniquity of those who died as enemies of the true GOD?
If the virgin birth is wrong, who is the biological father of Christ ? How can a lie be accepted as truth by billions of people for over 2 thousand years? why do you think GOD himself have not intervened to stop the further spread of these lies? Does He enjoy seeing his people being deceived?

If the major part of the bible is fabricated, what then should somebody believe in? where is the truth found? Is it in those other books that you have been reading?

finally you seem very critical of the present church system but in all your criticisms, you are yet to proffer solutions. what is the solution to the "rot" yous see in the church system? you said that you are not a christian, then i want to ask that if you are not a christian then what are you? why not leave the christians to do their things and continue with what you believe?

To avoid soaking your boxer tie a water proof around your shaft when you are about to sleep. Wake up early in the morning and trow the sh...it away.

ladymichael:
Chief, am sorry but observe also that we have a high rate of unmarried women, are we then to conclude that its spiritual?

Good question cos it is obvious that so many ladies are finding it hard to get suitor.

I have to say this even though somebody may think I talking against the Yorubas. The Yorubas started this mummy and daddy nonsense through their church( RCCG ) and from their it spread like wild fire to every other church except Christ embassy.
Imagine a student calling a fellow student mummy and daddy. Nigerians have sold their brains.

Frosbel get ready for the attacks to come . I hope nobody knows where you live?

They have turned Christianity to a joke. God have mercy.

nannymcphee:
Herein lies my problem with you!! How do you know I haven't helped people who are struggling?

Should I come here to blow my trumpet? I was addressing only Gombs & no one else when I mentioned the award

only Gombs & any CE member will understand the award thing, but Gombs especially cos we have a history

I don't want to use insulting words, hope u saw where I wrote it that I didn't attend the ceremony & that i'm at the verge of leaving the church!

If I was boasting, why didn't I attend the ceremony?

Do me a Favour & go thru all my post, you'll understand where am coming from, until then don't comment, just observe

No vex.

nannymcphee:
Young man!!! you don't where I'm coming from, those that have been following my post will understand the angle I'm coming from

I wasn't boasting, though what I said was the truth, there was a tint of sacarsm to it!!

Maybe you are different cos I know many of them boast a lot. By the way next time try help a struggling brother. I know there are many of them in your church and your joy will know no bound.

Esdb:
when the media starts posting pictures of burnt churches I will remind you

You are still blabbing bro. We want real evidence and not Hearsay.

nannymcphee:
Why do you want to hear their experiences?

Are you about to join or you're already there?

@Gombs, seasons greetings!!! how u dey?

you're very correct about being at the verge of leaving. Guess what CE Edo state had its award night yesterday, I was among the top 60 partners(I didn't attend by the way)

so I know about giving, so when I talk listen to me

Boasting sister. You are high on the their deceptive schemes. Keep giving to those who deny the faith by not providing for their family.

First Christ spent 3years and not 33years preaching peace.
Secondly picture of the letter or you are just blabbing.

Ok.another writing for those who are interested. Am out.

rinrin23:
Read your bible....thoroughly!

the whole bible does not teach christianity. some are more of judiasm while others are historical events that are so barbaric which come like you uses to accuse us as christians

I think ignorance is part of the problem in this country. people are shouting Buhari Buhari Buhari and the man is yet to tell us how he wants to help solve the many problems facing this country.

Weah96:
Or let's try to make 10 kobo lithium batteries that can supply power to a home for one week.

all things are possible

Ok. Let's go back to using stones to make fire and the world will be alright.

cold:
Oh yes it's based upon spiritual understanding. Yeah i've heard that one before. Little wonder there are so many crazed loonies talking about a daddy in the sky,mansions in the sky (of course after you die) and eternal flame to burn the opposition to cinders..yeah seems legit

How come things you don't believe nor understand is giving you a sleepless?
Athiest you guys are the real lunatics