₦airaland Forum

laudate:
Hmmn... I know what you mean. One thing that saddens me about the war, is that very few people are ready to tell and accept the truth about the causes and effects of that war, on both sides of the divide.

The Igbo believe they were the only ones who suffered pain, meanwhile there were casualties on both sides. Some folks find it easy to talk about the Asaba massacre, but yet these same people would conveniently ignore the atrocities meted out to minority groups, within the old Biafra, as if the pain & suffering those groups went through, did not matter.

Many would rather see themselves as the victims and others as villains, forgetting that to every action there is a reaction. It cuts both ways.

Everyone has his own perspective of the war. Maybe one day, there might be an impartial recount of the events that led up to it, the way it was conducted and the aftermath. So that everyone can learn from it and say...."never again." War is not romantic. And it is certainly not pretty.

May God save us all.

amen to the prayer my bro, you know one reason the popular media hasnt talked much about the wrongs of the ibos was because they didn't want to appear to condone massacre, that was just all otherwise there is no dispute as to what led to the war. even though it will take time do readup on the link there, the level of documentation and referencing of this account is quite authoritative and i encourage you to read it

dont forget buhari is a father in terms of age to many people so it can just be a show of respect for an elder as per African tradition

Yujin:
Buhari doing all he can to tarnish GEJ's legacy. If in doubt ask yourself what is buhari's motive for recalling them suddenly?

one of the 17 yr olds on nairaland, dismissing soldiers who fought with their lives so that you can type from your ipad and make comments on nairaland from the peace of your home is now a legacy?

laudate:
Hmmn..now the 2nd part of the saga will start.

Either him (or one of his friends) will come back to discredit the writer of that article, or dismiss the facts contained in it as fiction, or claim there was no evidence to support everything written there. Just watch.

But why did you call him all those bad names including ariara? Pls don't sink to his level even when the temptation to do so gets high, because of his provocative remarks.

forgive me bro you know how annoying it can be when a bold and ignorant lad is arguing what he knows nothing about. all ibos omitted that part from their narrative so the younger ones never heard of this except the ones humble enough to seek knowledge on the matter. as for refuting this that can only amount to madness, my mother was working at radio kaduna at the time and we lived there so i have just being pitying his ignorance all along. no wahala my bro lets see if shame will allow him to reply

ACM10:
You are not making sense. Are you mentally ret@rded from birth or did you acquire it from chronic fura de nunu drinking binge? You drew a blank analogy to cover your hate-filled fictional comment. You are too mentally slow to contribute to a discussion of this nature. #LastFoolishProphet

surprisingly i didn't hear from you, however I have decided to respond to you not because you deserve it but for education since you obviously have little to none. below is just one link to a documented account of the happenings of 1966 which i talked about and which you eagerly refuted (without checking as expected of ibo arrogance ):


www.africamasterweb.com/CounterCoup.html


i will advise you to read the section titled 'provocations ' many times over since am sure your lying parents would have omitted that part from their account of the events leading up to the war.

am waiting for you ariaria

Atlantian:
Absolute gibberish.

am sorry for your parents, you are a shame to sensible parenthood

yourboss:
Pls I need your help!

I have been searching for apartment for some weeks and then finally my uncle helped me get one so I relocated to this 2 bedroom flat apartment, there are 2 buildings in the compound, one at the front which is 4 bedroom flat and I occupy the one at the back which is 2 bedroom flat, after 2 days of occupying the room my uncle came to visit me and fortunately he knew the man living in the other flat and then told him I'm his brother and all those introduction but his wife and daughter weren't around that time because they traveled for an occasion and spent like 1 week.

During my first week in the apartment it was toward the ending of the month which was environmental sanitation day, I was out cleaning the environment with the man living the other flat, and starting from that day we keep talking and whenever he's back home he will call on me to keep his company before since he's the only one at home.

The issue now is that his wife and his daughter are back home and both the wife and the daughter won't stop disturbing me, the daughter will come to my room when I'm at home at noon bringing their playstation so I can fix that to my TV and teach her which she always seduces me to the extent that the girl will always call and text me even when it's not up to 5 minutes after leaving my apartment, when the daughter is not around and her mom come home to do some chores, she would come to my apartment saying she wanna check on me and doing some seductive stuffs, she even calls me on phone.

Please, should I tell her mom I don't like all those stuffs or I tell her husband or what do you think I should do??

Dont do anything! dont fvck any of them, dont rebuke anybody, dont make any enemy. You can fool them by start going to church in earnest and after a while they will forget about you. There is always a chance somebody else will come to the compound and will take their attention away from you and that will be all. Most problems go away even when you do nothing. And mind you if you start to hammer any of them then know that since you stay in the same compound it will be difficult to pull out, they will always continue to see your visitors so be careful - that is why people dont go out with people in their neighbourhood.

ACM10:
You are not making sense. Are you mentally ret@rded from birth or did you acquire it from chronic fura de nunu drinking binge? You drew a blank analogy to cover your hate-filled fictional comment. You are too mentally slow to contribute to a discussion of this nature. #LastFoolishProphet

waiting for your link and your response to those that called you emotional - in otherwords stuuupid, you see am not the only one and gues who is mad?

ACM10:
Seriously I underestimated your stupidity. What do you mean by "public knowledge?" Who is public? You and your hopeless father. . You must be a darn fool to think that you can confuse me with your grammar.

Now let me refresh your mind with the bolded.





I choose to ignore your hate-filled conjectures and stereotypes. Now, tell us about this document which you are privy to. I want to learn too. I won't allow you to throw assertions carelessly. Give us a link to that documented public knowledge.

lest i forget, you were called an emotional fellow earlier in the thread, have you finished insulting The person? please hurry up on that so that you can respond to me with expected excrement

ACM10:
Seriously I underestimated your stupidity. What do you mean by "public knowledge?" Who is public? You and your hopeless father. . You must be a darn fool to think that you can confuse me with your grammar.

Now let me refresh your mind with the bolded.





I choose to ignore your hate-filled conjectures and stereotypes. Now, tell us about this document which you are privy to. I want to learn too. I won't allow you to throw assertions carelessly. Give us a link to that documented public knowledge.

give me a link to the document that claims ibos are black people, at least that should prove your father is not a complete idiottt

ACM10:
Lamebrain lastFoolishProphet, Mr ItIsDocumented, produce that document o.

illiteracy is a deadly disease, someone told you a public knowledge is documented and you are asking him for the source without knowing where to go, a major event like a civil war and you asking where to go? did you even see the reply of the person i talked to who is supposed to be very angry if he was a mofo like you? take the advice i gave you before, your shop won't run away before you finish school cert

ACM10:
Ain't you ashamed that Ariaria market trader is better that your good-for-nothing father? He entered federal school on merit, while your useless father influenced his admission with quota system. You keep using the phrase "it is documented" thinking that everyone attended alamajiri school like you and hopeless father. Fool produce the document to support your loads of excrement.

Ariaria!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, check my former posts - hausas got blasted more than your hopeless tribe, ella

ACM10:
Please spare us your bullsh!t. Tell your father to produce that non-existing document. He must have fed you with a lot of lies.

ariaria market, close your shop go back to secondary school, you should be able to cope with jss2 work at least given the IQ you have displayed. useless excrement asking for document

ACM10:
What a load of excrement!

Nna, can you produce the document or a link to it OR shut your putrid mouth up.

if you ask your ibo father he will explain those excrement to you, at least your father should have been born by '67

Built2last:
you certainly worry yourself too much about what becomes of the Igbos when they become a nation. bro, it should not be your head ache. with the way you have painted them and self centeredness. i wonder why those of them in the Eash other have not killed each other.

I dont know about Igbo land lords but mine is Igbo and i am the only none igbo in that compound...that is faulty generalization.

Igbos build at home and abroad and thats wealth. it is beleived amongst them that you are not full blooded if you do not have a house in your village. they spread their wealth everywhere and are profit minded....whereever there is population, they see opportunity. that is why they are more populated than other tribes in every major city. talk of kano, Lagos etc.

I think we should not belabour this. we should allow them go. whatever happens when they are gone should exclusively be their business . we should bother on the vacuum, they will create although many will not agree they currently hold SME commerce and real estate.

bros may God grant them biafra in Jesus name - amen

OrlandoOwoh:
Jonathan is not different from our traditional rulers who could not read or write, but gave out their territories to the colonialists after they were made to sign on documents whose contents they didn't understand.

hahahahaha, my brother no be small thing o

Built2last:
Your vituperations about the Igbos is highly repugnant. But what i find impressionable about your assertions is the subtle objectivity in it. Your position above is the reason Igbos are insisting they must go. Whats our business with what happens to them if they go. Allow them do the worrying of what becomes of them when they go....mind you, everyone in South Sudan is not dead and they are not begging North Sudan that they want to return...same with Kosovo if you know global history...and Igbos are not Lazy. They may be arrogant and proudly but laziness is far from them...

Permit me to agree that Igbos will have bickery and rancour in the beginning for a little while if they seccede and afterwards they will settle to shock the world in developmental innovations. There is something unique about that race that Nigeria is toying with. Though difficult, We need them than they need us. google Ahmadu Bellos interview on the Igbos on youtube and watch. the entire Nigeria especially the North fears the Igbos., their boldness, their audacity, their arrogance, their business enterprise and a mix of evil intent is why you either love or hate them. i have learned a lot from them.....Let them go now in peace. its something that will happen now or later.

i appreciate your matured response but please there is something ibos all too quickly forget, it is that building a nation requires much much much more than being hardworking, please if you are a student of history then you should easily recall that the sacrifice of many is the first step in creating a nation and that Is exactly what ibos lack and their culture even frowns on. if an ibo trader places his table anywhere to trade he does not care about any other persons interest, it does not bother him if it causes the death of another and he will vehemently refuse to be asked to comply with procedure. if ibo takes your house for rent then i dont need to tell you the rest little wonder why even ibos landlords dot want ibo tenants here in abuja. you see i could go on and on about them but the point i want to make is that ibos have a completely self-centered world view and as such hates to do anything that will benefit another person and that is the spirit that will surely destroy any nation no matter how promising the other potentials are. among ibos the moment you offer help you are assumed a foool automatically, so tell me how they will form a nation? are you aware the reason why bokoharam has not reached where you are tying from with your ipad is because some young men are sacrificing with their lives? you see ibos might not be the only self-centered people but they are the only self-centered people that are not aware they cant form a nation. you use to hear there is not enough land in the east abi? have you been there before? i can confidently tell you that uninhabited land in the east is 4 times more than habited places and do you know why it is like that? it is their attitude. personally i would have bid them a peaceful farewell since like yesterday.

NoRetreat:
Fashola brought elitism and professionalism to bear on the Nigerian politics,if anybody is out there to destroy him, the ripples of his achievement will confound and confuse the person.

God bless you. what happened to elrufai haters is what will happen to fashola haters quote me. it pains tinubu that a 'boy' he brought up has a higher political prospect than him so the idea is to cut down fashola especially before 2019 and they are going to fail again and again and again

Gurgle:
Whoops. But why did you look at the pictures

Anyway whatever you do, don't get involved with her. You will surely regret it

that is the summary, and stop encouraging her because you did something you are not mentioning here for her to be coming for you. dont dare to report her if you love yourself. if you are fine enough for her to come after then you should be fine enough to get a girl friend of your own, and once she starts seeing a girl around you she will give up. strangely extra marital affairs always get exposed and it brings bad luck

barcanista:
Start with Buhari by telling him to declare his asset

this is why pdp lost the election - lack of common ordinary logic. so as well-read as you appear to be you didnt hear you should go to CCB? have you been there and you were denied?

only a morooon would have made an obvious egotistic and shallow person like ffk a minister and i bet you until another fooool climbs the throne this will be the last we will hear of ffk

lack of proper education among ibos is a serious problem, imagine someone insisting on jumping from frying pan to the real fire, most ibo young people are running away to townships and even abroad with a half baked school cert, so how do you expect such a mind to reason well? my prayer is that they give ibos their biafra before the end of the year but on the condition that there is no readmission into Nigeria because i know them very well, after other ibos have dealt with them like motor tyre they will hope to run back thinking you would have forgotten

America is putting many of us that used to fight for them in opinion courts to shame. its a pity

i can bet on my life that fashola has more integrity than the ops father and mother combined. op go back to tinubu and give him his change because you did a poor job. if N78m is all they can tie to baba fash then he deserves to be made the next pope after running a state with the budget of 4 african countries

with a PhD yet Jonathan was tricked by everybody, even more funny he has followers like that unemployed youth barcanista. if Jonathan were my brother i will call him to the back and ask him to apologize to nigerians for being such a jackass

unfortunately this op is one of the worthless poor people gmb is fighting for yet they prefer their brother who enslaved them to poverty. reminds me of the graduate selling recharge card on the road in my estate that wants to die for goodluck.

ba7man:
If these are the only states you can mention, PDP is truly finished.

count kogi out by November, even a monkey in apc will be allowed to win rather than have a pdp thief to continue

shikshark:
10.5m out of youth population is much ooooo. i hope something is done about this because problem told is 50% solved.

islam can never allow any place to develop, the hausas are giving birth anyhow because Islam encourages them to do that in order to gain political power through numbers. when Nigeria splits or true federalism comes they will now learn

Built2last:
The hatred people have for Fani kayode and PDP will not allow them read what he said in the above article and the sense in it.

I know Junaid will not make such senseless statement during GEJs time but now that PMB holds sway. we should expect that.


below is my earlier assertions on realisation of Biafra and eventual breakaway of Igbos from Nigeria. If Igbos want to go. whats the big deal. all these attention and palpable fear of Nigerians on Igbos is becoming too much. haba. If they want to go, lets free them peacefully. all these Igbo and Biafra news is becoming boring.


I think that the governments move against Radio Biafra is coming rather late and giving it all the publicity they never had.

I am not one of those who fool themselves that Biafra will not be realised one day. History has it that those who have been held as slaves or third class citizens always gain freedom. The Jews gained freedom from the Egyptians after 450years, Indian got independence from Britain, 1948 the Jews stubbornly carved out a state for themselves in the middle east. The black Americans now vote and contest elections. The scotish will break away from the British someday..its just time. The followership of Radio Biafra is crazy and if the agitation has not died 40years after the war. It wont die again. White Americans told black Americans that they will remain in perpetual servitude. Today history and time has proven those white Americans wrong.
Pro-Biafran groups are doing all they can to gain global world leaders attention and trust me they are gaining momentum. The last Biafra day celebration accross the globe gives credence to this. BBC, New York Times and Jerusalem Post has reported in Biafra in the last one week. Thats a reach out if you ask me.

Here is my proposition.
I will not tell Igbos to go or stay. It is their right to choose what they want. As a matter of fact the push by many people for them not to go is giving the struggle much more popularity.
There was war in Nigeria years back with a monumental pogrom that left many Igbos dead. Nigerian state must not pretend all is well and keep moving ahead.
There is need for a reconciliation and assimilation meeting between the state of Nigeria abd Igbo leaders.
Ask your Igbo friends at work if they truly will desire to leave Nigeria. 8 out of ten will say yes. The more reason i think the agitation for Biafra actualisation will not die.

The Niger Deltans who were cold enemies with Igbos are gradually aligning and having clandestine meetings.
Veraciously clamping down on Igbo Biafra will not work. The support and sponaorship is high and we must not pretend that the inventive power of the Igbos will not help them in this Radio war. How about NBC licensing Radio Biafra with a Different name like Radio Igbo or something else.

I write this because i have the deepest concern for what will become of our great country Nigeria in the coming years if its not well managed.
I am married to an industrous Igbo woman who has given me 2 sons. I asked her on bed last night if she supports realisation of Biafra, she said she will sponsor yhe agitation when the time is right. My wife has never mentioned Biafra but its deeply seated in her. We are both highly educated and understand rights. She and my two sons are all i've got. The Irish marry the English, yet the Irish is planning to secede, so, don't crucify me.

There is need for a wound healing meeting now before its too late. We will appear delusional if we think that the Nigeria of 1960 is same today.
History has a way of proving those who say things are impossible wrong. Some people said PMB will never become Nigeria's president again. They said he was old, he is a dictator and all sorts. Today he is the president. Biafra will be realised if Igbos are not fully re-integrated into Nigerian politics and all the hate against them stamped out.

I wish I had enough time I would have taken my time to write you a worthy reply since you sound educated at least. now first off I am not Ibo, hausa or yoruba and have no desire to be any so listen very well:

1) Nigeria did not start the war, Ibos started it. Kaduna Nzeogu did a coup and killed all other regional leaders except his own - Okpara, who was assisted to escape by other igbo officers. The same Nzeogu was the one that slaughtered Ahmadu Bello right in his palace in front of his family and no SINGLE HAUSA RAISED A VOICE. it took more than 3 GOOD GOOD WEEKS before Hausas and other tribes began to give the Nzeogu coup a tribal interpretation. Killing Ahmadu is equivalent to killing the Ooni of Ife, Oba of Lagos and Alafin of Oyo together and YET YOU REMAIN UNHARMED FOR WEEKS FOLLOWING THAT. Can anybody try that with any tribe and just get away? It is only Ibos in their natural sense of arrogance that can do such a thing and assume you cant do anything and that was what they paid for.

2) Please this is also documented - Ibos were warned severally both by word of mouth and radio many many weeks before the fighting broke out in the north to leave, any Ibo that denies this must be flogged on his brain. Kaduna radio was used to annouce many many times to Ibos to leave and that they were no longer welcomed YET THE IBOS REMAINED and to make matters worse they even started to ridicule the late Ahmadu Bello, IT IS DOCUMENTED that many Ibo traders started selling caricature photos of the late emir entering hell fire at markets and public places. If you were hausa and you got to market you will be shown the calendar-like paper as the Ibos mocked everyone. This was what led to the unfortunate 'araba' massacre which started in kaduna where my family grew up at the time

3) The single cause of the massacre of Ibos was ARROGANCE OF THE IBOS. If you hear that south Africans want to kill nigerians go there and ask and you will be told by south africans themselves that their problem are Ibos. It is exactly the same thing in Kenya, Ghana, Malaysia, India etc. anywhere you hear nigerians are hated it is because of Ibos, so are south africans also working with hausas? Or Kenyans? only a deluded soul will still continue to blame others and refuse to look inwards.

4) Ibos have a serious problem and it starts with their culture and they need to fix it. you cannot be hated everywhere and it is the fault of others.

5) And lastly it will shock you to know what perentage of nigerians want the Ibos to go peacefully - you will be shocked! But trust our clueless leaders with their slow thinking - nobody wants to be labelled the one that allowed nigeria to divide as if remaining one collosal wasteful entity is an achievement by the way.

6) And to any Ibo listening, I pray you will get your country as fast as possible but mark my words, you will run out of that biafra faster than rocket in less than 2 years of establishing it. I have worked in 3 Ibo states and I have never seen where people of the same tribe hate each other like Ibos except maybe (Edo people) and am waiting for the day Ibos will be at the mercy of other Ibos then we shall see what hell Biafra will become. My only plea to the govt will be that Ibos must not be accepted back no matter how they cry.

NB:
However nothing justifies massacre and many hausas are morooons as expected especially the alamjiri and their day is coming if they dont change their ways. Bokoharam punishment is a startig point for them

your friend has already wasted his time, the lady is still searching and ready to cheat clearly. and she will cheat either with this DJ or another one. i am not there but your guy feels lucky to have her and she knows and she wants better if possible. your guy should call it off now and walk away, he should look for someone his level in physical appeal

0lumide:
Shut up and go and help your people idiots!!! Your people are leaving their native land by millions every year and these idiots are concerned about some petty shit?

And they call themselves Igbo leaders? lmao!!! What an insult to Igbos!!

ibos just keep making innocent people feel disgusted about them, ibos had meetings all over the world and unanimously agreed not to vote for buhari in particular and yet the man won, despite this the ibos shamelessly continue to ask buhari for more privileges than even those that voted him, what kind of people behave like this? why do ibos go on like people without advisers? the average south african will tell you the same thing about ibos because they now even know The difference, same thing in Kenya, Malaysia, everywhere nigeria has a bad name its caused by ibos. why cant this people be given their biafra before end of the year?

EroticAngelina:
who's Sam adeniyi?

Thats one of the most enlightened pastors in nigeria, went to his church once and I was amazed. His arguments even about non-religious issues are always on point. He is pastor of Daystar at Oregun