₦airaland Forum

TimeMod1:
She is a pretentious hypocrite. Having exposed her tiny hypocritical ass, she admitted one of her account has been jailed.

Just laugh over their antics, please. They are just jokers....

ephi123:
You obviously need a pair of glasses or contact lenses. Anyway, just join your fellow lowlives who litter the whole place here. I'm done with you.

Bia, this 'lowlives' you just dey call so, na di name of yah boyfriend? Abi, na your own surname? Tell us, o!

TimeMod1:
Oya now! play ludo!. If you had warmed up to their biabia mirage, she was would have been throwing herself on you. Chai, you can imagine her comments laced with so much pains... Poor little girl . How can a sane & unruffled mind referred a Vision as a phantom project while theirs is a realistic project. #bad belle

You dey mind dem? Na small-small girls dem be. They are just seeking attention.... Dem sabi misyarn!

ephi123:
What is fearing you to spell it out now? Be bold. Spell it out.
I don't even understand why people will engage lowlives like these ones. Just keep to your lane.

Bia kete, weren't you the one who quoted me? What am I supposed to spell out again? You want to leave TimeMod1 and face me? I jump and pass over your matter, biko. I no get yah time... abeg, swerve!

TimeMod1:
Of course! Just as it was applied on eph123 & ephi321.Nonesense!

Account detector! See this girl ephi whose pot is calling your own kettle, black! She does not have any proof against you, and she is making all these allegations. Anyway, na their way. They cant spot the difference between fact & fiction!

TimeMod1:
Baba lau, why are you doing this?.. You owe no ninny an explanation. You hold the absolute right to associate with US as long you aren't one of dem developers.

Bros, let me play ludo with them, small..... Some of them always come up with the most ridiculous responses!

Kathmandu:
An Igala boy feeling fly online, nothing person no go see.

May sense locate you this week.

Bia, show me where it was stated in black & white, that 'Laudate is Igala.' Or do you have something against Igala people, as well? Anyway, let me pray for you too - may intelligence, clarity & foresight locate you this month. Oya, say Amen!

Kathmandu:
Which yeye investment? All these keyboard billionaires ehn, i tire for una.

The issue there was a Yoruba nation was being discussed but you were begging to be allowed into the phantom place.

You deserve knocks for the shame you are carrying around.

Shame on you

Haba! You don't need billions to have an investment in Lagos. Who told you that? And I was making enquiries about their proposed immigration policy, in case their republic becomes a reality. I would really hate to get my business holdings, commercial transactions and investments, trapped in that region without getting clear cut guidelines as to what would happen, if their nation comes to fruition. That is what a wise man does, so that he is not caught napping at the last minute.

It is you and your brethren that clamour for a separate homeland, without addressing the fall out, or the consequences that may arise after it is granted. Some of us have learnt from the folly of your people in Port-harcourt after the civil war, when their buildings were declared abandoned properties. Even now, they have not sat down to think things through, about what fate would befall their commercial investments in Nigeria, after they pull out. Isn't that the height of shamelessness?

Oya, sit down here beside me. I have a favour to ask you. Continue chasing me all over NL and keep making me popular! Daalu zi!

Kathmandu:
Anywhere sense is roaming about should locate and fall on you. Why are you feeling important? You are begging yorubas to accomodate you because you can speak the language.

Shame on you.

Don't you have anywhere you can point as your hometown?

Big Shame locate you

Don't you have family to tell you your lineage or are you almajirir that Madam Gej called born troway

Bigger shame close your eyes there

Chimo!! Babe, why are you vexing?? I can't understand it. Aren't you the one running all over Nairaland, looking for my posts and my village or my state of origin? Haba! Don't do this, nah. Continue searching all the NL threads, so that you can find more info on Laudate. Your job on NL is to make me feel important, by chasing after me and responding to anything I say. Oya, continue... You have not done your job well.

PS: Point of correction. I don't speak Yoruba, but I understand all the cuss words in that language. If you need a tutorial, let me know, biko.

Kathmandu:
Nne kedu ka i mere. I find timemod or gberra funny so i do reply his mentions or i poke him when i feel like listening to a man with an infant brain.

Please can you screen grab that lauudate post where he is begging the yorubas for accommodation in their phantom Oodua republic.

The post is on page 15/16 on that Oodua plan thread. My fpne can't screen grab.

Thanks

Hehehe.... you just want me to notice you, sha. Ok, your presence has been duly acknowledged, you this little drama queen. Now go back to your cave. Unlike you chaps that leave everything to emotion, I believe in putting my ears to the ground when matters that affect my place of residence (i.e. Lagos), are being discussed. Only clueless folks leave their investments to chance, while agitating for a separate homeland like you lot. Now, you can continue stalking Laudate all over Nairaland. I guess it gives you a high.

Ngozi123:
I see that you've decided to add your 2 cents in a matter that does not concern you again. Whether it's fawning over Ndi Yoruba or making negative comments about Ndigbo, you always seem to get involved in matters that do not concern you. Believe it or not, it took me less than 5 minutes to go through that posters' posting history as, like I said before, he's only made a few comments with this account.

Mr Nupe/Igala man, why is it that you're so concerned with other tribes, particularly Ndigbo? I sense a heartbreak story here...

Mynd44 why has TimeMod1 not been banned yet for using multiple accounts? I've already proven that he has more than one account.

Cc: Ephi123 Kathmandu

Shuo! Why are you jumping to conclusions again? And when did I say I was Nupe or Igala? It appears as if you guys are stalking me all over Nairaland. Thanks for making me feel so important. And for the very last time, I do not make negative comments about Nd'Igbo. I merely point out their folly. Now if you feel there is a heartbreak story anywhere (only God knows where you got this thought from!) please share it with us, in chapter & verse, o!

And this love you have for TimeMod1 is really heartwarming. Keep it up, biko! Hehehe.....the guy has stopped responding to you, but you are still calling his name. The guy never told you that he has any other account, yet you are insisting on it. Why? What is this, if not love?

SirVintageCock:
What's your obsession with a people you HATE so much?
Why can't you chart your own course and leave Biafrans alone?
Someone asked you a vital question up there but you will evade it as if it is no there. Answer it and stop sitting on the damn fence.

I do not hate the Biafrans. I have said it clearly that I hope & pray they get their Biafra, as quickly as possible. And I only answer intelligent questions, not those designed to cause distraction. Let me ask you a question too. The United Kingdom, is made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Would the Scots have been able to hold a referendum without the agreement of the UK govt?

ShootToKill:
Are you tired of shouting 'kanu and beans' with your ewedu-stained lips? Oh you want to 'join body' and vote in the Biafran referendum wey no concern you? Did the welsh vote in the scot referendum? Answer the question and looking for nylon-bag for your storage of shiit.

You were the one caught at a downtown buka begging for ewedu soup, have you forgotten? And you (as well as your brothers) have been begging, praying and fasting that the Nigerian authorities should give you chaps permission to conduct a referendum, not so? As long as they remain oblivious to your request, or withhold their permission, you are stuck here. Even the constitution does not allow referendum. You should actually be thinking out of the box, and strategising on how to get the state authorities to agree to your request for a referendum, instead of clamouring for a bag to store your shiit!

ShootToKill:
Another lamentation from anti-biafran buffoons. IPOB will not shift grounds, Arewa if you shift ground God punish you.

Nobody is anti-Biafra here. And there are no lamentations. We just want you to be well-equipped with the facts, so that you can quickly get your own merry homeland. The sooner you get it, the better for the rest of us.

You chaps are fond of blaming others, when things do not work out the way you planned. We just want to ensure that this time around, you will not be able to shift the blame in the direction of other ethnic groups, by claiming they did not warn you of the loopholes, well ahead of time. The same way African leaders like Habib Ben Ali Bourguiba of Tunisia, Nnamdi Azikiwe of Nigeria and even the late Adeyinka Adebayo of the old Western region warned Ojukwu in the past, and he refused to listen. Everyone saw the result of his decision. Nobody should wake up tomorrow & say we did not do our duty in notifying you.

So, we have spotted the minefields on your path. And have brought it to your attention. Anything that happens afterwards, is solely your own responsibility. Daalu zi!

Nkemakonam62:
Listen brother KANU , I understand the frustration. I wish things can work that way. But everything that happens in the world has a precedent and there is something called international law. That's where the elites and intelligentsia are important for the struggle.

John Garange was elite of the South Sudan he was instrumental to the peace talk that led to independence of South Sudan. After he died in a plane crash, Silva Kiir, his lieutenant, who was also another elite, took over and led the country to Independence.

Our people should be very careful so that they do not shoot themselves in the foot. Things do not happen by emotions. The international law does not recognize emotions.

First and foremost Nigeria is an independent sovereign state, a member state of the UN, AU, Commonwealth of Nations and Ecowas. She has diplomatic relations with over 100 countries in the world. Her sovereignty is respected and protected under the UN law, it means that until she decides by herself to partitioned herself, no country in the world will recognize any part of Nigeria that forced itself out of Nigeria.

A country is a country when it is recognized by other countries as a sovereign state recognized by the UN and member states.

I give you an example of what will happen when the elite of Igboland do not engage Nigeria in discussions about self determination. By the way the 1999 constitution does not have any provisions for self determination of any part of the federation like the US or U.K. Constitution, for a debate or discussion to happen about letting a part to go the constitution which is the supreme law of the law must be amended or changed.

This is what will happen if you fail to act within the international law framework. You will become like entities such as Northern Cyprus which broke away from the south in 1974 with the support of Turkish Army; which after 42 years, no country in the world other than Turkey recognized.

The north Cyprus does not do business with any country in the world, they do not have international passport recognized by any country in the world, their citizens are given Turkish citizenship so that they can travel out. Their money is not recognized by world bank and they cannot trade with the outside world. But they have been existing on their own for 42 years now. Currently they are agitating for reunification with the South which is called Greek Cyprus.

This is a precedent to look at. Somaliland was colonized by Britain while Somalia was colonized by Italy. After independence, Somaliland willingly join their Somali brothers to become the republic of Somalia. When civil war broke out in Somalia about 25 years ago, Somaliland which was very peaceful and functioning, withdrew from the Somalia republic.

25 years after, even though Somalia is a failed state and Somaliland has been having peaceful democratic elections and functioning like a state, no country in the would recognized Somaliland as a country. Her citizens are still called Somali and can only travel outside with Republic of Somalia passport.

Somaliland is living on international aid because it cannot do business with any country in the world. Their money cannot exchange for international currencies because it's not recognized by world bank and IMF. This is a precedent in our own Africa.

The two breakaway regions of Georgia known as South Ossetia and Abkhazia are recognized only by Russia more than 10 years after they broke away from Republic of Georgia with Russian support. Till this day only Russia recognized them as a sovereign entity. No one does business with them. In order for them to travel out they took Russian citizenship and obtain Russian passports. But by international law they are still Georgians.

Ukraine conflict is still on till this day. The East broke out of the Ukraine with the help of Russia military. The war is still on. Even though for 3 years the Ukrainian government is not in control of those regions. No country in the
full details at http://www.akelicious.com/2017/07/open-letter-to-nnamdi-kanu-by-modesty.html?m=1

Goodness, gracious me!! How I wish I could dash you 1,000 likes for this post. It is one of the most interesting pieces, I have read in a long time. May God increase the wisdom He has deposited in your life!

Getting a country is one thing, acquiring international recognition for such a new nation, is another. Dem think say na beans?

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oyatz:
When badly educated traders are weaned with hatred and propaganda, they assume they are intelligent.

Chimo!! See finishing! What an epic response!

TimeMod1:
Lol! You sabi stoke fire wella .. She is my little girl( I dare say. Lol!). She is amazingly troublesome & amusingly opionated. She wouldn't stop till she pulls a hair off you.
Babaramota was just playing around & it pleases you to stoke it up. Baba lau nawa for you sir

Ok, make I just siddon dey look una for dis side....

history2902:
I have the impression that I am speaking to juveniles.
You guys are too dumb to discuss with me.
Little f.ool, ask yourself if "crown" (a european royal hat) has anything to do with african culture.
No you are just too d.umb to even think.
Jeez, I am 30 years old and I have a masters degree, I don't need to be talking to i.diots.

I am trying really hard not to refer to you as 'daft,' but honestly your manner of speech leaves a lot to be desired. All those who responded to you, did not include a single nasty word in their replies, but you have the temerity to turn round and call them f00ls, idi'ots & dumb??! What kind of an Ov'biedo are you, if you cannot even exhibit a small bit of courtesy to those you are speaking to? Who cares if you have a frigging Masters' degree? Do you know how many degrees other people on this thread possess, or which Ivy league schools they graduated from? Respect yourself, o! Ozuor, igha gbue.

FFKfuckedBIANCA:
I had always thought that you and laudate are Yoruba

Nah! We've just lived in the SW region for years! Yoruba hospitality is second to none!

Mujtahida:
Some two or three years ago when I first watched this Sardauna clip I was shocked even though I had always known that he just like Awolowo and Zik were tribalist as were almost all the leading politicians of that era

But this now is my point: The danger of a single story (thanks to Chimamanda A). When you post such a video always remember to post the following to balance the sums in the ethno tribal equation:
'the domination of Nigeria and Africa by the Igbo is only a matter of time”. Charles Dadi Onyeama member central legislative council representing Enugu spoken at the Igbo state of the union address in 1945. http://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/142477-the-bitter-truth-about-the-igbo-by-femi-fani-kayode.html

Azikiwe in a statement published by the Daily service had also said that the god of the Igbos had given them the leadership over Nigeria. http://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/164552-why-we-should-split-nigeria-now-by-damola-awoyokun.html

They were all tribalists (Nigerians generally still are) and really without justifying our founding fathers I prefer their own kind of tribalism because everyone knows what Sardauna achieved for the North then in terms of development and Awolowo too for the Southwest because their tribalism was born out of genuine love they had for their people unlike our politicians today whose tribalism is empty, devoid of love even for their own kin.

This is what irks my soul: we will all join hands and condemn my brother for his reprehensible actions but when your brother does something condemnable, you shield him, you hide him, you try to justify his actions by pointing to my brother who has already been roundly condemned by ALL.

Me I say Mbanu to such. Let us all bear responsibility for our actions. Nigeria's problem absolutely did not start with the civil war. The things that have happened in Nigeria have been caused by a confluence of factors, of attitudes, decisions and actions by the actors each one building upon the other and setting the stage for the next. Do not point your fingers at Sarduana. We are all guilty.

You saw how the chap you responded to, was quick to overlook the tribalism in Onyeama and Azikiwe's comments, and ascribe it to a desire to motivate their ethnic group, in the area of education. Can you see the hypocrisy? If such comments came from a member of another ethnic group, the spin he would have put on it would have been different, even if it was uttered in a similar context.

BabaRamota1980:
Ibowomen and their attachment to Yorubamen...
See as Ngozi dey display her admiration for this guy. If she can grab his underwear sef she go sniff am to tell how long he has had it on. Choi!

I thought I was the only one that noticed how she was giving TimeMod1 close marking. She even took the pains to sift through his post history, and took note of the days and times he posted on NL, as well as the period when he did not make any comments. Na wa, o! Na who get dat kind time? Only someone who is either enamoured or obsessed, can do such a thing.

There are many reasons why people take a break from posting on NL. It could be due to work commitments, travel, or even project demands. But she has interpreted it, to mean another thing.

TimeMod1, na wetin you give dis girl chop?

TimeMod1:
Hahaha!!. You no chop soup but you sabi lick plate, if you lick plate you don chop food be that.
If you sabi all the cuss words, you don sabi speak am. Fluency follows naturally but the cuss is the koko. That's the major start point.

I suppose say thank you, first. Abi, you don forget say na you cook di food? The soup no even sweet like before sef, but I just manage am like that! But people don talk say, na only when dem find my trouble, na im I fit use the cuss. So I just dey take corner eye look those 'land developers' for now. If dem try me, ehn....dem go hear am!

9jakool:
Don't worry, you have little to worry about. I thought you were Yoruba from the way you have conducted yourself. People who contribute to the development of Yoruba are welcome.

Olu317:
of course not once you can do the needful (get a Yoruba wife). On a serious note, I don't share outrightly banning as it seems because once you have what it takes to bring value to our nation ,why not? I am a hardened conservative but give wisdom to rule my decision. So ,once you are willing to support our dream and aspirations, you will be allowed to naturalized as It fit in to my own “opinion".

MrMaestro:
Those that are yorubanized will be the last of our worries. It is easy to know this if their families have spent generations here as you've stated. Their parents and grandparents will be recognized by the government as residents in the region and will be overlooked. Those that are more recent arrivals will definitely be subject to more scrutiny and most will be deported unless: you are not a criminal, you are intelligent and have a technical skill you're offering to yoruba society, and most importantly if you love Yorubas as you love your own brothers. Otherwise, non yoruba residents are most likely to be deported. If somehow a person is deported who is all that is listed, they will most surely gain reentry once they apply and go through the system.

Its not an attack on any tribe or minority, it is simply a measure of a protection for future yoruba generations so no one should take it the wrong way. There are countries that allow poor and jobless entry into their country for a better life (ex. US) Then there are countries who only prefer to allow expats and professionals (ex. Japan). I am for the latter. I hope that answers your question.

omohayek:
Don't worry, not all of us are hardliners! Besides, it's one thing to advocate such harsh measures in a vacuum, and another thing to get them passed when you have to deal with millions of voters whose families will be personally affected. I just don't ever see a situation where the Yoruba majority will sit by and accept the forced deportation of their wives, husbands, cousins, old friends and trusted colleagues.

I also understand where the desire for a hard policy comes from, but I don't think there's a need to apply it universally and blindly to get the same effect. Something as simple as saying "You can't hold simultaneously hold our citizenship and that of X", while imposing a Yoruba-language fluency condition, would easily achieve much the same result, without needlessly expelling people who are not only friendly but have valuable skills and resources to contribute.

I really appreciate all your responses & I fully understand where you are coming from. God bless you all.

shukuokukobambi:
The clown is just jealous and bitter that a thread on here can flow so seamlessly and in a cerebral fashion without fights even with the minorities posting and querying the position of some posters. If na some, the posts by laudate and efewestern would have elicited serious and aggressive negative reactions

That is the sophistication of the Yoruba that riles haters. The ability to tolerate opposing views without getting angry or overtly emotional. That's why the Mid-west could vote to leave the west, despite Enahoro and Rewane's protestations, and the members of the regional assembly gave them a standing ovation at the last sitting. Yoruba support freedom. Freedom of religion, thought, political views etc

Edumare bless us all here and everywhere

Amin!!

Mandeyy:
U lack sense. Former Bishop of Enugu Diocese, Anthony Gbuji is from Delta State, yet he became bishop of Catholic Diocese of Enugu and nobody rejected him. Cardinal Onaiyekan is not from Abuja, but he is an archbishop there. What of Hassan Kukah, who is from Kaduna State but he is bishop of Sokoto Diocese. Even Cardinal Okojie is from Edo State, but he became archbishop of Lagos. Bringing tribalism into d church is bad. That's why i pray dat Biafra will never be actualized, cos we Igbos hate one anoda.

These examples you quoted are quite correct!

obicentlis:
You ara mbaise and that's why you are saying this.
For your records, every rules were being followed to appoint a new Bishop even within the priests of the diocese but the same priests wrote trailer load of protest against each of them from the diocese, until the Vatican decided to appoint outside the diocese.

No wonder!!

kitaatita:
It is unfortunate that very senior priests are sitting with agents of the State to arbitrate on Church matters. Thank God that the alter is bare and the lantern covered. The Church shouldn't be desecrated

Lantern? Or Lectern? Alter or Altar? Which one?

googlepikins:
STORY STORY

Siddon there. The crude in Aje-1 oil field being drilled by Folawiyo Group off the coast of Lagos, is enough for their whole region. You can keep your own oil!

MrOdyssey:
My respect for Asari just took a big leap. Dude has been spitting truth laced with fire of late.

Which dirty truth? When he was making money from breaking pipelines under Yara'dua, and later collecting dues from monitoring the same pipelines, via mouthwatering contracts under Jonathan, where were you? Is it lawless characters like this, that you admire? Show me your friends or icons, and I'll show you who you are!

seanet01:
There will be a free entry and exit into Oduduwa Republic for all Edos, Urhobos, Itsekiris, Isokos and Ebira people.
All Yorubas of Benin Republic, Togo, Ghana, Brazil and Caribbean countries will have the right to enter Yorubaland at any point and time provided they are not married to a country whose indigenous people have called our land "no man's land" at any point.
Yoruba in this context means you were born by a Yoruba father from any of the afforementioned countries and where you were born by a Yoruba mother, your father must not in any way be related to any country whose indigenous people are known​ to have worked against the interest of Yorubaland at any time.

We know dem!

Obaluf0n:
If we are going to be selective by extending automatic Yoruba-pass to Laudate, why do we not just extend to the other Yorubanized people from the over 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria? Better still, why do we not just remain in Nigeria rather than rack brains over what a Yoruba state would be like.

Yes, we may have soft spots for folks we have bonded or have relations with but this is about Yoruba as a nation, its interest takes precedence. Our forefathers made a mistake with political correctness, sophistication of accommodation and being blinded the 'cuteness' of people being 'Yorubanized' a la Azikwe Nnamdi & his NCNC crop of Igbo loyalist who were creeping over institutions in the southwest like yam leaves.

Please, matters surrounding Laudate & people like him would have to take the back seat or they may have to go first. This is Africa not USA, adopting other people's culture still does not bring you into the fold. Heck, children with one of their parents being from certain parts in Yoruba land are cut out of scheme of things by certain parts in the same Yoruba land; children whose Yoruba parent got married to a non Yoruba parent are seen differently in family matters -- what then is the person who took interest in another man's culture and left his father's?

I won't lay things bare but Yoruba has a lot of cleavages within itself to level out first in the case of being an independent state. We cannot have so much family baggages to sort out then slap in matters of outsiders abeg.

Yoruba as a nation is not culturally fluid. To be Yoruba is not by eating the food, speaking the language with accent or having abetiaja glued to the scalp. It goes beyond that and it begins with ile-baba. Has anyone ever wondered by our fathers instituted the ebi system? Have you ever wondered its contributions to the sustainment of the nation? The closest thing to a metropolitan type of stuff we had where everyone could come in to integrate was Ibadan and every (family) compound in Ibadan traces its root to another compound elsewhere.

We need to be very pragmatic. This should be about correcting all mistakes of the past and also blending all sub-sections together to prevent old frictions. Something Yorubanized foreigners may harp on to give us problems.

Yoruba r'onu; forget sophistication and political correctness. Make Baba Awo your guide for our development but make Baba SL Akintola your guide in putting Yoruba first especially when dealing with foreigners, Yorubanized or not.

Don't worry, we understand you very well. Even the part left unsaid, can be decoded. Everyone is quite comfortable waiting for your group to brainstorm, deliberate and thrash out this delicate issue extensively among yourselves, before coming to a conclusion. None of us are in a hurry. We respect your views. Even Baba Awo had close aides like Pa Rewane in his inner caucus, and chose Odia Ofeimun as a personal secretary. So please take your time regarding this issue. Wishing you all the best. Peace. and thank you.

P.S: I will not lie, though. I found this part of your post, a rather difficult pill to swallow. But I want to believe that you wrote it, as you felt it - because you were trying to make a point, and not to cause any hard feelings. Non-Yoruba folks like us are quite comfortable in our own minority ethnic skin, and our due regard for your kith & kin stems from long interactions over the years. But no stress, sha.

Obaluf0n:
Please, matters surrounding Laudate & people like him would have to take the back seat or they may have to go first. This is Africa not USA, adopting other people's culture still does not bring you into the fold. Heck, children with one of their parents being from certain parts in Yoruba land are cut out of scheme of things by certain parts in the same Yoruba land; children whose Yoruba parent got married to a non Yoruba parent are seen differently in family matters -- what then is the person who took interest in another man's culture and left his father's?

TimeMod1:
Lol, You wey don become Yoruba finish. You even sabi Yoruba pass many Yoruba people sef
No wahala for you bro . You go swear an affidavit bearing our citizenship. There'd be a provision for dual citizenship.

Ba-aa-ad boy! I can't speak the language, but I know all the cuss words! Na from clapping, na im dance dey start!