₦airaland Forum

Mujtahida:
By virtue of our constitution secession is illegal. In the US on the authority of the case of Texas versus White the Supreme Court of the United ruled that seccession was illegal even though the court did not rule out the possibility of a state seceding with the consent of other States. It was this case that Azikiwe relied on when he argued against Awolowo's proposal for seccession to be included in our constitution at the Constitutional Conference in 1954 https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/my-role-in-the-civil-war-by-zik/119382.html

Currently they are at least 111 secessionist movements scattered all over Europe with 17 in Spain alone.

But you see laudate back home here what concerns me in all of this is this: What are the things that make such calls appealing. Let us lift the veil and penetrate the depths to find underlying and predisposing factors. What is your view about the current state of Nigeria? Are we to continue this way? Is the status quo one that is cast in stone for all time?

misano:
1. I'm not Igbo by tribe.

2. I don't believe relocating HQs will make Niger Delta any better because D Niger Deltans used their own hands to push these companies out by bombing & kidnapping D expatriate workers.

3. Lagos state is what it is today because they have always had good leaders, that use their allocation to build D region.

Now answer my questions. If Nigeria did not have oil will these oil companies be existing? If they divide Nigeria today will all those HQs not return to Niger Delta? Will the Lagos state be able to enjoy the oil tax from the oil companies? If Niger Deltans start blowing up oil pipeline will Otedola not feel it financially? If Nigeria is divided today will those Nigerians & government official that have oil blocks still have it?

I will say this again, directly or indirectly, every region has gained and will continue to gain from the Niger Delta oil.

listenersky:
Wedding preparations already done. Hall booked, cloths bought, both families already preparing, what will people say? How will she move ahead if I leave her?

listenersky:
are parents are aware already because the man she cheated with is her Dad's friend

Nnwannsukka:
Nobody is talking of tribalism here, am just making a point here, that Non Yorubas more especially the igbos pay 40% of Lagos Tax.

Every country has its own central of Attraction in terms of fast growing civilisation and i bet Lagos state is not exempted and before it attain such level of Global refrence in the world. Do you want to tell me that if everybody had staayed back at their house in terms of having this tribal thought you have , Lagos might not even have attain such level of refrence and tell me is it those Marijuanna addicted SOMOL U, AJEGUNLE, KETI,AND SO ON boys would have done that.
So bro Appreciate the effort of the south southerners and Easterners for a minutees if not for them Lagos would not havr manifested to that Level.
Am not from west but am always proud of Lagos state anywheere i am.hmmm.

deomelo:
On top of that, Dangote dropped $15 billion investment in Lagos. He's building the largest single refinery in the world, the largest fertilizer plant in Africa, largest petrochemical plant in Africa and the Largest gas plant in Africa. We are talking about the largest private investment in Africa and the man goes about his business like a matured and sensible adults, but not these empty and shallow chest beating villagers, let them build a little 4 x 4 kiosk somewhere and before you know, they'd start beating chest that they are the riches and they own everything.

These are antisocial people with serious low self esteem and insecurity issues.

And talking about Dangote refinery, the sky is the limit for Lagos state, their N30 billion/month IGR today go look like small change when the bucks starts rolling in less than 2 years from now.

oyatz:
In one stand, you accuse Yorubas/Lagos of monopolizing ports activities and in another you claimed only the FG can regulate ports activities.
Which one should we believe now?

Given the strategic place of Lagos State in the political economy of Nigeria, our brief most certainly goes beyond thinking for Lagos State alone. We must necessarily be involved in thinking for Nigeria; significantly influencing public discourse and helping to evolve national laws that can best accelerate the country’s progress.

This is particularly so, because we have made a conscious decision as a state to benchmark ourselves not against other states in Nigeria, but against other global Mega Cities and countries. The implication is that we must constantly be at the vanguard of championing necessary constitutional changes and the enactment of laws that can help us achieve this objective as a state within the frame work of our nation.

Lagos State has no doubt been the worst victim of the defects in the practice of federalism in Nigeria. We are empowered as a state to make laws for the territory under our jurisdiction, but lack the complementary control over the coercive apparatus to enforce such laws.

The pittance we receive as statutory allocation is completely disproportionate to the amount of revenue derived from Lagos to the national coffers. Current taxation laws make it impossible for us to derive maximum benefit from the sheer concentration of businesses and industries, which make huge profits from this State.

Our intra-state water ways are being grossly violated and illegally abused to the extent that the state is unable to derive the benefits that ought to accrue from this resource. These are only a few of the anomalies we must act in concert to correct urgently so that the potentials of Lagos can flower fully.

In spite of the federal character of our constitution, several vestiges of unitarism still remain as a carry over from military rule. These unitary practices severely hamper the autonomy and rights of states as components of the Nigerian federation and impede their capacity to effectively discharge their responsibilities and promote rapid development.

The truth of the matter is that our declared national objective of ranking among the top 20 economies in the world by Y2020 will remain a mirage unless we effectively decentralize powers, resources and responsibilities in the Nigerian polity in accordance with the dictates of true federalism. http://www.tundefashola.com/archives/news/2008/04/05/20080405N01A.html

In an attempt to widen the scope of derivation, Lagos State argued in the Resource Control Case that natural resources meant any material in its natural state which, when exploited, has economic value. On that basis, Lagos State laid claim to a share of revenue derived from its ports and wharves on the basis of derivation.

However, the Supreme Court preferred a narrow definition of ‘natural resources’, holding that all “claims relating to wharves, ports, piers, pier licenses, collection of rates, harbour dues, shipping dues, quarries, sea, livestock, fish, hide and skin, horns, groundnuts, beans, mangoes, grains, pepper, cotton, and gum Arabic, are untenable as they do not fall under the definition of ‘natural resources’

See Attorney General of the Federation v. Attorney General of Abia State and 35 Ors ([2002] 6 NWLR (part 764) 1 at 759 to 760 per Uwais CJN). http://www.tundefashola.com/archives/news/2008/04/05/20080405N01A.html

Jonathan39:
Why is it that there is no seaport or international airport in South east or south south. The fear of Igbos is the beginning of wisdom.they wanted to bury us not knowing we are seed.

Razorblades:
Story for the gods. Its always Iboe haters, most of you guys amuse me. Stop the pretense and be bold for once in your life. You and your fellow ipob tout spew hate here daily but you all want love in return. The hatred is mutual bro

victorDanladi:
Dont mind them.

-they hate yorubas and fulanis and they want everyone to like them in returns.infact,they are the haters,the hate all the tribes in the country except themselves.

victorDanladi:
I won't allow u derail my point FOR OVER 40 YEARS,NIGER DELTA STATES HAVE RECEIVED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY SINGLE MONTH FROM NIGER DELTA OIL PROCEEDS INCLUDING 13% DERIVATIVES AND NDDC BUDGET IN THE PAST 14YEARS AND MINISTRY OF NIGER DELTA BUDGETS FOR YEARS WITH NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT.

BLAME YOUR LEADERS,STOP BLAMING LAGOS.

YelloweWest:
I'm not Igbo but u and I must agree that compared to other tribes the igbo investment in lagos is by far more.

oyatz:
The investments of Dangote, Abdulsamad Rabiu and T.Y Danjuma dwarf the investments of Igbo's in Lagos and I have never seen a northerner shouting they own 50% (abi na 85%) of the economy of Lagos or declaring that Lagos has become a no man's Land.

deomelo:
They don't have to produce the same thing and all entities are all unique in their own different ways.

Lagos is the 5th largest economy in Africa, not because they produce electronics or make cars like Japan, but because they dominate non-oil commerce in Nigeria and West Africa from banking and finance to insurance, arts, and entertainment, ICT, advertisement, industrial and manufacturing, food and beverage, oil and gas and so on.

There's a reason why Lagos is the 5th Largest economy in Africa without oil, it means they produce goods and provide services. Use your common sense if you have any.

xynerise:
In Naija, the more the number of pages your CV has, the less likely you may get the job.

misano:
The CV will be read by a human who has like 1000 CVs to go through. Seriously, some HRMs will fling that CV through D window.

Integrityfarms:
Let her forget about job hunting and use all her experiences, qualifications and certifications to open her own business. No HRM have such time to gloss over 23 page document CV.

YelloweWest:
You are wrong o. Igbo play a vital role in lagos economy.

Razorblades:
Shutup and stop playing this usual victim card. Everything is hate to you villagers, you hate people and want love in return. You hate Yoruba and Hausa people but still calling someone else Iboe hater, just get lost and stop disgracing yourself. Mschew

oyatz:
Where did Infanyi Ubah makes his wealth? What of Capt Iheanacho?

Integrated Oil and Gas Ltd. on Saturday, said its $116 million dollars modular refinery would come on stream before the end of 2016.

Group Managing Director of the company, Mr Anthony Iheanacho, told newsmen in Lagos that the company had been given provisional licence to commence preliminary work for a 20,000-barrel capacity modular refinery. Iheanacho, who conducted the newsmen on tour of site of the proposed refinery at Tomaro Island Port, off Takwa Bay, Lagos, said that the preliminary approval was received from the Department of Petroleum Resources (DPR).

He said that work had commenced on the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) and other necessary requirements to facilitate the final approval for the refinery.He said that funds for the project would be sourced from local and foreign financial institutions Iheanacho explained that the refinery would produce Automated Gas Oil (AGO) otherwise known as diesel, kerosene, export quality aviation fuel and fuel oil.According to him, the refinery does not have the capacity to produce Petroleum Motor Spirit (PMS) also known as petrol.

Tomaro Island with about 90 hectares is designed as one-stop shop which will comprise refinery, flour mill, ship repair yard, helipad site and resort centres. It will also create massive employment for our teeming youths. Crude would come to the refinery through vessels for refining,‘’ he said. http://www.integratedoilandgas.com/integrated-oil-and-gas-116m-refinery-ready-2016-gmd/

marv1:
This your argument is very funny and childish. If your argument is valid, it should have been giving to the Bakassi refugees before their land was given to Cameronians.They would not have become refugees in their own land. You better wake up and smell the coffee because what you have said cannot hold water. How can you call a place a Zoo and you still want to live as foreigners as well as keep your properties there in the zoo. What a smart game? No one will accept that from you.

NwaAmaikpe:


Her hand has no wedding ring.

What's the essence of the 23-paged CV when she doesn't have a husband

My wise mother told me that a woman's true pride is her husband.

Nonsense.

Jodesky:
Most of the arguments here omit one fundamental, which is Immigration Law. The moment Biafra is created, every person whose origin is rooted in that Biafran geographical entity loses his Nig passport and ceases to be a Nigerian. He must first return to Biafra and then apply to re-enter Nigeria (or whatever is left of that part) vide a valid visa but this time with his Biafran passport.

At that point, the govt of that Nigerian entity may grant or refuse visa. Every country reserves a right to design it's immigration policy the way it desires.

Before you can own property, you will require some measure of work or residence permit, without which you cannot remain in the new Nigerian entity not to talk of owning landed property.

One other reality is that Nigeria may eventually break into multiple parts with each unit havng separate identities and varying immigration policies. Such policies may be skewed against different nationalities but the common denominator is that everyone must first return to their homelands before embarking on processes of regularisation.

This is this the minimum standard in all international border adjustment scenarios.

So, there will naturally be forfeiture of assets not necessarily because of abandoned property issues but principally as a result of immigration restrictions. It's not avoidable but can be managed on individual merits.

allrightsir:
This is very true and everyone recognizes the enterprise of the Ibos man but let's rewind: you are the richest, the smartest (that's debateable considering the senseless way you are going about alienating yourselves for a cause that will never materialise) and the most successful economically, so why are you complaing of marginalization?

Is your real problem not greed and a desire to dominate everybody else? How can the richest, smartest and the most successful tribe claim to be marginalised?

Ngozi123:
His Nupe and Igala people .

Don't mind that one, that's his modus operandi. To make encouraging comments to more overt anti-Igbo tribalists so that he himself won't be penalised for making hateful comments. Later, he'll claim that he doesn't hate Ndigbo.

Kathmandu:
I ll hit him at the right time. He is a nonetity without a place he can call his hometown. I was really sick seeing him being tossed around for a phantom nation.

That boy is a disgrace to his tribe

Ngozi123:
This might be why he's such an Igbo hater, perhaps he wants to prove himself to the resident anti-Igbo Yorubas here. He's our resident Igbo stalker .

TimeMod1:
A puppeteer just worked on you!. You're not even ashamed of yourself.

12inches1:
So that your people will kidnap all their workers abi?

Ngozi123:
Why do you want me to stalk you so badly? I was asked to take a quick screenshot of something for someone and I did it. Take a look at the date in the screenshot if you don't believe me.

I will ask you again: why do you want me to stalk you so badly?

Kathmandu:
Amadioha fall on you for jumping into my comment unannounced.

Shame on you.

You are a disgrace to your PEOPLE

Ngozi123:
Who started talking about whom in this thread first? Me or you? There's no point in me 'monitoring your posts all over Nairaland' as I usually find you secreting your venom in Igbo related threads anyway.

Arrant nonsense.

Like I said, who first started talking about whom in this thread? Me or you? The answer to this question should answer the bolded for you.

Ngozi123:
A di nma my sister. Ke nkwanu?

Here you go, the man never ceases to amaze me.

Kathmandu:
I've saved it. I ll decimate that Igbo hater.

Ngozi123:
No one was stalking you; I happened upon the thread and saw that you were up to your usual antics. The only reason I didn't say anything then was because it was a thread about Yoruba people and so had nothing to do with me. Unlike you, I try to not get involved in other people's business.

Your hatred towards Ndigbo is legendary; it's even gotten to the point where almost every Igbo poster that been on here for longer than a month knows that you are an Igbo hater. It's nice that you feel that me giving you a bit of attention is making you feel important- I guess I have that affect on some people.

Kyase:
where was the North when herdsmen are killing my kinsmen, all they could do is to issue quite notice to igbos, forgetting whats going on in its region. Do you know i defended the north more than anyone here, i was insulted. The North never for once ask about the fulani menace in its region. Why.

coptic:
Why do you speak so much about magnanimity as if you handed someone bread?

Who is afraid of the fulani?

In case you didn't know, people avoid all wild animals not because they are afraid of them.

PEOPLE & POLITICS - The Middle Belt: the facts, the fiction by Mohammed Haruna

Ethnicity as a political weapon in a sub-region which contained probably more than half of Nigeria’s estimated 250 tribes plus, many of them with a history of rivalry and wars, was a weak and blunt weapon. However, the plurality of these tribes, albeit not their majority, had the common denominator of being Christians.

This disparity between the Christian plurality of the minority tribes in the North and their numerical size, has been at the centre of the confusion over the definition of the Middle Belt. Let me explain. At a reception for General T.Y. Danjuma following his resignation as minister of defence, Chief Solomon Lar, the foremost advocate of the Middle-Belt, define the sub-region thus: “By way of clarification”, said Lar, “the geographical Middle Belt is distinct from and smaller than the political Middle-Belt. The political Middle-Belt encompasses all the marginalized minority groups in Northern Nigeria. These are the nationalities that have historically resisted feudalism, political oppression, injustice, religious discrimination and the economic emasculation of the unfavoured masses”.

Lar, of course, was not alone in his emphasis on politics – or religion,if you will – instead of geography in his definition of the Middle-Belt. Among many others, Group-Captain (rtd) Jona Jang, former military governor of Benue State and the AD governorship candidate for Plateau in the last election, shared the same view with Lar. In an interview in The Comet of November 12, 2000, Jang’s emphasis in defining the Middle-Belt was again religion, even though he was quick to deny it. “We” he said, “have already stated what areas we consider the Middle-Belt, which are Southern Kebbi, Southern Kaduna, Southern Borno, Southern Bauchi, Southern Gombe, Adamawa, Taraba, Benue, Nassarawa, Kogi, the Federal Capital Territory, Kwara and Niger”. These are states or parts of states where Christians are in the majority.

The reason for the emphasis on, or the singling out of, religion, in defining the Middle-Belt should be apparent to anyone who takes even a cursory look at the population of the geographical Middle-Belt which is the North-Central Zone. This zone comprises Benue, Kogi, Kwara, Nassarawa, Niger, Plateau and the FCT. Of these six states and the FCT, only Benue and Plateau states, the heart of the Middle-Belt, have an overwhelming Christian majority.

Of the remaining four states, Kwara and Niger have an overwhelming Muslim majority, with Nassarawa and Kogi probably having a not-so-slim Muslim majority. With the FCT it is hard to tell; among indigenes, Muslims are probably in the majority since the FCT was carved out mostly from Niger, Kwara and Nassarawa states in that order.

Its new status as the country’s capital has changed this demography in such a way that it is hard to tell without an exercise specifically aimed at determining the religious mix of the city. http://www.gamji.com/haruna/haruna91.htm

Odingo1:
SW are hypocrites,very soon Lagos nyash will be open, Nigeria as big country with almost 180 million people has only one viable international airport in lagos,one sea port in lagos,all embassies in lagos apart from Abuja, oil headquaters in lagos,bank headquaters, yet yorubas are not satisfied and be calling others names for coming to lagos to do business after other states have sacrifice what belong to them for lagos.

TimeMod1:
Hahaha!!!! . I think that is her surname, her boyfriend is worse off a crapshit.
Baba lau, this poor little girl would be sorry tonite.