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poshest:
JJC ve been on this thread since february 2015. Ve been following since the days of larrybabe, jumayin, forwetinnah, mainheroinhoon, adesiji77 and so on so stop acting like you opened the thread. Read my post again and understand. Zeeworld lovers here dont fight each other. The last time i checked i have a right to my opinion. its not a must it goes down well with you. The whatsapp group is obviously diverting more people away from here thereby making the thread empty with less posts. Hope you understand now!

deomello:
The fact that he's spewing irrelevant rubbish about 7 programs instead of actually defending himself with the main issue like actually producing evidenced that he graduated from ABU to shame SR permanently means he's lying and really did not graduate from ABU.

cktheluckyman:
It is not Dino's job to build roads. That should be buhari and the Governor's job

themonk:
Dino is doing his 7th degree in a whole

Damn, "Dino" and "Buhari" should never appear in the same sentence

GeneralAchuzia1:
. GeneralAchuzia1 the thing dey pain you well a sha.stop crying boy

GeneralAchuzia1:
curse be unto GeneralAchuzia1 and his family.may unfortunate news never depart from GeneralAchuzia1 households. amen and amen

GeneralAchuzia1:
. GeneralAchuzia1 the ogbomosho based criminal.you are already a dead man.bet me you GeneralAchuzia1 will die this month if you don't stop ur hate on igbos. mass burial will be ur family portion this month .amen and amen

GeneralAchuzia1:
. typical of a drowning man.you have resorted to editing my post.curse be unto the punny that gave birth to a waste of space like you GeneralAchuzia1

GeneralAchuzia1:
GeneralAchuzia1,the ogbomosho car snatcher,I know you are busy reporting my handle to the mod,but I don't give a damn.a new handle will be dedicate to you to exterminate a cockroach like you.show ugly face GeneralAchuzia1 the criminal

GeneralAchuzia1:
GeneralAchuzia1 the cursed ogbomosho criminal, if you run from this thread tonight,you will never wake up alive tomorrow to read ur mentions. amen and amen

GeneralAchuzia1:
laudate, laudate .you are a confirmed yorubastard
and if you continue denying it then mysterious death awaits you.onye oshi
Cc:Afonjaheadhunta

GeneralAchuzia1:
. ogbomosho criminal.stop crying already.we are here to hunt you down and you are going down already.this month will mark the end of laudate.your demise will be announced on this forum in this very month.amen and amen

GeneralAchuzia1:
. ogbomosho criminal,may dangote trailer dismember ur head from ur body.unfortunate death will continue to abound in ur households. laudate the yorubastard from ogbomosho.you will die soon

GeneralAchuzia1:
laudate the cursed yorubastard from ogbomosho ,come here and kneel down osiso.
you need serious drilling.don't waste my time

GeneralAchuzia1:
laudate the crimin@1 from ogbomosho.we are waiting for you.you don buy market today

GeneralAchuzia1:
. agboro park.you are already cursed for real.the misery that will engulf ur already cursed life will be mind blowing.laudate if you are not a yorubastard,then you should be bold enough to represent ur tribe here you cursed soul.anumanu dika gi

Kakamorufu:
u even have time to be responding to those fucktards.

GeneralAchuzia1:
. heddiotic afonja with tiger clawed face.God don already punish you that's why you can't even be proud of ur ethnicity. ezi dika gi

LastProphet:
can islam finish? can you separate islam from teaching of hatred?

Mickey02:
Pls. We shouldn't call for quarrel here

fatiaforreal:
What a shame?
Some decades ago, this kind of discussion wouldn't have occurred. That was when Yorubas had leaders who were truly interested in their region. Unfortunately, we've been corrupted by cultures that place no value on integrity, hardwork, and objectivity in the guise of politics and religion, to the extent today, there's virtually no difference between Yorubas and their fellow countrymen. Yorubas have lost it. We need to go back to the drawing board and reinvigorate our value system. By then, people will be be willing to pay to join us. When we had regional government, I'm sure no one wlll compare his region to the SW. The elites today in other regions got their education from the SW.
First of all, we must accept as a people that we've lost that touch that gave us the HUGE edge over others and go back to the drawing boards. Our value system had no place for corrupt while those we're comparing ourselves with on this thread idolize corruption; they're not even aware anything is wrong with it. That shows how much we've fallen.
In all honesty, that map is provocative. They have the right to react the way they did. I know the attachment Yorubas have with Itsekiri, there can always be a way out in case of an eventuality. The Binis have told us point blank they're not our brothers in recent times, so, why regard them as your people(I know when the time comes, the chicken will come home to roost), why include them in your map?
Perhaps, a historian drew the map. Yes, I have no doubt 70% of the tribes in west africa, not just Nigeria, have a common origin, in the Niger confluence region, from where we dispersed and languages separated. But then, realities of today and interests have made us different peoples.

Diademk07:
Lmao..

All I see is attention seeking from the man. I got this from the OP post,

It was an allegation and not a confirmed statement and yet the man was blowing up and down over nonsense! Who wanted Ijaw in the first place?

BTW, no land of Ondo state is Ijaw. We only offered them land for fishing, it was never theirs to begin with.. Does the name Ese Odo sound Ijaw to them? They themselves know wahtzup the last time they tried rubbish. Thank God we have the papers to back it up..

Yeye!

awelekiti:
The report was compiled based on what the ijaw leaders said. Something is in the pipeline already which I'd never mention here. GEJ was with obj recently alongside the afenifere chieftains. I was just being diplomatic in my earlier comment oo. I read the chief's comment inside-out. On a social medium like this, you watch what you say and that's exactly what I'm doing

GeneralAchuzia1:
. continue deceiving urself. we the EOD have already unmasked ur identity
an unrepentant afonja with tribal marks claiming a minority. na God go punish you

Exciton:
Oh enlightened one, show me the way!

I'm sure you can do better than a one line non-constructive criticism. Convince me with your superior argument.

mandarin:
I don't think anyone is laying claim to Izon or Ijaw least the Yoruba. Some Ijaw are in Ondo State but have no land there. Just like Fulani, the Ijaw are migrants in many parts of southern Nigeria and there's no way they can proof the ownership of anywhere in Edo and Ondo state.
The coastal areas from Escravos Warri to Edo and Ondo state do not have any Izonland.
I do not think Yoruba want to claim Ijaw but has been affirming their kinsmen the Itsekiri.
This statement by the Ijaw is deliberate message to Itsekiri and Edo, trying to affirm ownership and I will advise that they perish the idea.

Now on a more pragmatic level, who really need who? Compare what ijaw have to the Yoruba in all ramifications, they are not mates;is it productive landmass good for agriculture, population with good purchasing power, educated population, already organized communities in terms of economic power, what are the ijaw fighting for?
1. Crude oil: The exclusive land area the ijaw can claim is Forcados to Bayelsa and maybe some areas of Kalabari in Rivers. They can make do with their resources and lets see how many decades it take them to be like the Yoruba or Igbo. Other ethnic groups have oil too, by the time your Nigeria is fully divided(I don't advocate for such) you will know that Yoruba and Igbo has oil than you can think. This is also applicable to natural gas.
2.Warri: Former oil capital of Nigeria, wealthy oil potentials and location of a refinery and proposed gas FTZ, the ijaw can't claim the one at Porthacourt and so looking at warri will to them be a good starting point. Now, if the Itsekiri should stand with Yoruba it will be zero probability of getting what they want. The Gelegele at Edo is slipping away already and consolidating through Toru-Ibe is a dead dream, the ijaw are led largely by youths who just want economic empowerment but with little grasp of history and diplomacy.

What options do they really have if they want an Ijaw country?
Live in peace with their neighbors, hold to those undisputed areas and trade away those disputed areas for strong economic and cultural ties because they can't win the Yoruba or the Edo in eventuality. They need to consolidate on their areas in Rivers and Beayelsa else they may be fighting battles against all their big neighbors and they can't win.
So, what would the Yoruba want from ijaw apart from oil, don't think there's anything and its not looking like Oduduwa will want to include the Ijaw even though historically the ijaw claim ife and, when the value of oil becomes less and less a driving force, the ijaw will see the light.
happy Sunday to all.
My take is let the Izon live in peace with all their neighbors, negotiate a confederation with any big side and you will win from both sides.

awelekiti:
point of correction, ijaw land isn't in ondo state rather, they migrated to ondo state centuries ago to engage in their business of fishing. Ijaws are predominantly fishermen and women and they carry out their fishing activities along the coastal areas the niger-delta, including that of ondo state. Look and the map, it's crystal clear. I don't know why the afenifere leader is jumping the entire edo state to claim ijaw is part of us. It's a joke which everybody should ignore. If he says itsekiri is part of oduduwa, it would have made sense because they migrated from Ondo centuries ago to settle in that area. This is evident in their dialect and likewise their names.

TonyeBarcanista:
Ijaw nation can never be part of any Odua group just as Odua can never be part of Ijaw secession. But hey, we are Nigerians (at least for now)

DanseMacabre:
As the guy who mentioned you stated, there are indigenous Ijaws in Ondo, so go figure.

realjoker:
Lolz, the guy just quoted one of the Lagos-ibadan express way media outlets that you claim are all fake or are they no longer broadcasting only propaganda?

seanet02:
Irrelevant nonsense. Where did Pa Adebanjo said Ijaw is part of Oduduwa Republic?

IamAirforce1:
work hard and be prayerful.

Some blessings and people will be like "how did he made so much money " ?

But they forgot that god is still sitting on the throne blessing people everyday..

Wow

This is cool crazy Money I must say.

Amberon:
At this point, nothing can change the fact that the car is linked to the apostle. We are humans and we err but for a self acclaimed man of God, Suleman hasn't shown that he is even a christian.

poshest:
why is there an official page on nairaland foe zeeworld lovers if theres an option of whatsapp. is just like saying since i have a facebook account i dont need a nairaland account abeg the mods should bring down this thread, the purpose has been defeated. long hiss

DerideGull:
Was there any juncture Decree # 8 mentioned or discussed at Aburi, Ghana? Why would Gowon and Nigeria promulgate Decree # 8 on arrival in Lagos? I guess the stupidity found among most Nigerians is very inherent.

Youngadvocate:
1. On the Paragraph, I think it safe to say, with all due respect, that you seem not to be abreast with the nature of leadership. Circumstances make Leaders. Leadership isn't basically a position or a role. It is the function of a personality in a circumstances. Leaders are born out of the circumstance of either solving a problem or creating one.
2. I would perhaps, give you the benefit of the doubt by putting out the question of Azikiwe and Ojukwu who is a better leader to Ndi Igbo and graciously, I would share the responses with you and so, I believe, you take back that line comparing Ojukwu /Azikiwe when the Biafra war is given a mention.

3.From all accounts by international writers, safe Pro-Nigerian-history-distorting-writers, there is consensus underpinned in strong facts that Ojukwu left the shores of Biafra Land under unwavering persuasion from the Leaders and right thinking persons of Biafra because if he had been captured, it would have meant that one, Nigeria won the war, two, that there would never be the mention of Biafra, there could have been conviction and possible imprisonment or execution of the Biafra armies that fought the alongside Ojukwu which Nigerian Government was ever matching forward to.
4. Biafra, in the account of the war, from the side of truth, out-tpowered Nigeria, having captured her territory as far a past Ore and over the banks of kogi and Benue. Nigeria could only rely on external assistance and the of course, the Historic sabotage from a Yoruba man, Banjo and his Igbo counterpart, Ifeajunna.
5. The facts are out there that Ojukwu made all moves possible to prevent the war but the cabal that dictated for Gown never wanted that to happen because the world, influenced by the British government was yet behind Nigeria.
Please, Bro, make your research before setting out your hypothesis.

Odingo1:
What have a Yoruba man ever stood for,that is why Emirate stool is installed all over your land from illorin to offa without a single opposition to Hausa- Fulani

Probz:
laudete, I'm no Biafra agitator and I'm not claiming anyone into the Igbo nation o. If a Yoruba man can partially sabi Igala and admit it sounds like Yoruba, why is it not okay for me to point out that Igala is a Yoruboid language? How does pointing out well-known linguistic affinity mean I'm claiming ndi Igala as even Yoruba, let alone Igbo?

Ngozi123:
Yes, that is the general method for describing things; you use words- preferably different ones- that come into your head to qualify the noun you want to describe. You should have learned this when you were 5yrs old. Sorry for that .

namet:
With mounting evidence of what Suleman did to this woman, it's disappointing (though not a surprise) that you continue to question the integrity of Ms. Otobo's story. Just so you know what make Ms. Otobo a victim:

When someone who calls himself a pastor tells a young and vulnerable woman that he will marry her, and then reneges on that promise after sleeping with her many times, the woman involved is a victim.

When someone who calls himself a pastor tells a woman that he loves her and that he will be with her as a husband, any woman would trust what the man says and would open up their legs for the man to enjoy. Being lied to, by not keeping your words, makes the woman a victim

When Suleman forces this woman to drink some abortion concoction, a potentially poisonous substance that is not approved by NAFDAC and could even kill her, she is a victim of Suleman because the pastor used his position as a powerful and rich pastor to do this to her.

When a popular and highly political pastor like Suleman sleeps with Ms. Otobo, promises her marriage and other gifts, and then leave her the affair is exposed, this woman is a victim because she potentially may not get a husband as men would run away from her. She is a victim of this pastor

Members of any church support their pastor and give their monies to the church not for the pastor to use the money and pay many different women to sleep with them. A pastor who does this betrays that trust and the woman at the center of the affair suffers rebuke and hate from the church members who are simply unhappy that their monies were given to her. Ms. Otobo is a victim because any member of Suleman's church can attack her or cuse her harm

Ms. Otobo confessed that Suleman sexed her and made love to her the way no other man has touched, held, and caressed her body and mind. Talk to any woman and they'll tell you that doing treating a woman this way makes her fall for you bother physically and emotionally. Suddenly taking away the affection renders women emotionally distraught and vulnerable. Ms. Otobo is a victim because Suleman has stopped giving her happiness and she can easily become depressed and may even commit suicide. She is a victim of the love that Suleman promised her.

Ms. Otobo is a victim of Suleman's reckless amorous lifestyle. Suleman's wife and every woman has, or will sleep with this pastor, is also a victim of such recklessness and disregard to the health and welfare of the women. If she gets Ms. Otobo pregant, that means he didn't use protection or a condom. Imagine if Suleman is sleeping with many different women. STDs/HIV could be spread very easily from a man that goes around doing this. In that regard, such reckless endangerment of women who've been in sexual contact with Suleman makes all them a victim. If the women in our country are infected this way and their health put at risks by some amorous and sexy addict like Suleman, all citizens of the country are victims. This is why we must all condemn Suleman's actions and demand an apology. Got it?

Ngozi123:
If you have nothing constructive to say then perhaps you shouldn't say anything at all. I thought that you were supposed to be an intelligent poster?